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Topic: Are Sag men aways this confusing?
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soren Knowflake Posts: 2729 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 04, 2017 12:57 AM
save absolutes for the scientists dealing with concrete things. like rocks and matter. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2729 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 04, 2017 12:58 AM
i respect nines trying though to figure stuff out and enforce her ideas, and sometimes they might be quite accurate. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2729 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 04, 2017 01:05 AM
i just think people should be beyond having to single someone out and name call on them, when it was a bit obvious i mean we know in our hearts how we feel. it's a bit primitive to just have to name call them and demean them. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2729 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 04, 2017 01:10 AM
if you are more worried about other people's interpretations are thinking the worse, yet you say you care only about the people who are having good thoughts, i mean if someone thought bad things about ceri from the rumour, then they likely already dont like her, and if you are worrying about fixing peoples interpretations of what was said about ceri, then you are more worried about the people on the "other side" who dont like her, so you are really caring more about fixing them. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2729 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 04, 2017 01:12 AM
i guess i just have a higher awareness of how it all works, people readng the forum, and actually understand what they might thinkinstead of like HEY THEY SAID BAD THING IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30540 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2017 05:42 AM
As for the astrology ---------------------It`s misleading and fallacious to conclude that if someone`s Sun or ASC is NOT in the sign of the other person`s pMoon, there will be no feelings. Could be, could not be. It`s too much of a general statement. BTW in all the years I`ve had my pMoon in Cancer and Leo, I`ve never developed any deep feelings for anyone with Cancer or Leo Sun/ASC It`s true the Moon plays a major part in describing your emotions and also synastrically an emotional bond.
But it is by far not the only planet that is important in relationships. Astrology - like human relationships- is much more complex than that. As for the personal attack ---------------------------
As I see it, Nine was for some reason personally affected by the fact that I gave Doux` post a thumbsup and agreed with her, which of course meant I did not agree with Nine. I actually have no clue why this triggered her into, what obviously was intended as personal attack and devoid of any astrological or topic-related content.
In a way it`s interesting to me however that first of all she seems to keep a record of my "life", but without either understanding or recalling the real life facts. Not that it really matters. lol Faith said it best, for what reason ever, she was acting like a troll (and no she is not Spongebop, even though her outburst remarkably resembled the former one`s online selfpresentation).
I of course feel majorly disgusted by this "tactic" she tried on me yesterday, but I hope I will not lured by this questionable behaviour towards me to sink to the same level. I can`t promise I won`t of course. After all my fangs and claws are out.
It`s funny though I never realized what kind of deep impact I must have left on some people.
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Faith, (and also Elysia and Bonsai), I appreciate you standing up for me. However, I fear there are some people who would not understand the deeper layer of what is really happening here. Soren, I`d appreciate you stop talking about me. Thanks.
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bonsai Knowflake Posts: 413 From: another place, another time Registered: May 2012
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posted January 04, 2017 06:02 AM
Yeah I know she's not Spongebob, just saying she reminds me of that former member. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20801 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2017 06:26 AM
Good morning,Reading this again I guess my tone looked sarcastic to the point of almost hostile last night? Which surprised me since I was calm and just rolling my eyes and sometimes laughing a bit as I was typing. In my head, my tone was just ironic. 'Thought the whole argument was dumb. Ceri, rock on Very sorry Cerulean, for the detour. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2729 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 04, 2017 06:52 AM
if anyone's feelings were hurt, then my bad, i was not supporting that. i just figured the classic oh you insult me it didnt really phase me but that is such a bad thing you are such a bad person etc. if it actually hurt someones feelings though, then that's not nice, and should not happen on here often, not on a deep level. IP: Logged |
Elysia Knowflake Posts: 2245 From: Gotham Registered: Aug 2015
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posted January 04, 2017 12:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by soren: i dont think nine even believes the words they say. it is kind of trolling, joking with others and not meaning the word
Oh, so it's okay to say literally ANYTHING as long as you "don't mean it". Of what value are anybody's words then? How would you like it if someone launched such a vicious personal attack on you out of nowhere? Well, I suppose if you're VERY enlightened, or made of stone, it wouldn't matter. Because words are just words, eh? IP: Logged |
Elysia Knowflake Posts: 2245 From: Gotham Registered: Aug 2015
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posted January 04, 2017 12:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: As for the astrologyIt`s misleading and fallacious to conclude that if someone`s Sun or ASC is NOT in the sign of the other person`s pMoon, there will be no feelings. Could be, could not be.
True.. It's a factor that *could* trigger feelings but - by no means the only factor. Nor is its absence indicative of no feelings whatsoever. IP: Logged |
Elysia Knowflake Posts: 2245 From: Gotham Registered: Aug 2015
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posted January 04, 2017 12:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by soren: if anyone's feelings were hurt, then my bad, i was not supporting that. i just figured the classic oh you insult me it didnt really phase me but that is such a bad thing you are such a bad person etc. if it actually hurt someones feelings though, then that's not nice, and should not happen on here often, not on a deep level.
Well maybe you could have read the conversation a bit more carefully. What preceded "THE" comment. And how this person reacted. If one cannot tell the difference between: **people simply making mistakes, occasionally flying off the handle** - and - **people who take cheap shots (that aren't even "True") at someone WITHOUT any provocation**, then one should refrain from defending said person. Because defending malice is the same as championing malice. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30540 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2017 01:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Elysia: True.. It's a factor that *could* trigger feelings but - by no means the only factor. Nor is its absence indicative of no feelings whatsoever.
Exactly what I mean. Yes. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2729 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 04, 2017 02:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by Elysia: Oh, so it's okay to say literally ANYTHING as long as you "don't mean it". Of what value are anybody's words then? How would you like it if someone launched such a vicious personal attack on you out of nowhere? Well, I suppose if you're VERY enlightened, or made of stone, it wouldn't matter. Because words are just words, eh?
i never mentioned anything about nine's 'jab', instead i was addressing the astrological info, that was what i was reffering to. i guess i am pretty tough because i overlooked it and was actually talking about nine's astrological info the whole time, but people don't seem to think that someone could be that tough if you guys want to address nine's 'jab' that is their choice, i chose to respond to the astrological info they said, and i even erased a thing where i disagreed with the astrological info for a reason. a reason that you cant know everything because i personally think some info is innaccurate, therefore the 'absolute truth' is a scam. because it's not true to me. and that is also what i was reffering to when i said that was what bothers me, i dont care if anyone insults someone (unless people were actually getting their feeligns hurt, then it's not nice, from what i tell most people can brush it off) i was saying i dont like seeing wrong info spread, that is what i dont like, rather than the insulting, and that was what i was addressing about nine. that is what i was trying to fix. but i erased it. if someone wants to address what THEY saw a problem in the world with, they can. i was focusing on what i wanted to fix and left the other part to anyone else. that's their choice to address.
quote: Originally posted by Elysia: Oh, so it's okay to say literally ANYTHING as long as you "don't mean it". Of what value are anybody's words then? How would you like it if someone launched such a vicious personal attack on you out of nowhere? Well, I suppose if you're VERY enlightened, or made of stone, it wouldn't matter. Because words are just words, eh?
once again was reffering that nine didn't mean the astrological info they said, which then connects to nine's 'jab' basically meaning it was all fun and jokes and kind of a troll thing if they didnt mean anything, like "all cats have gray hair and this person has gray hair, they are a cat! look at you you want to be petted??" kind of read it like that cause i wasnt sure if nine believed their own astro info. but from further comments from nine i now think they do believe it, but it comes off funny believing strongly in stuff that is to me false. it just looks funny. oops i responded to the same quote twice. dang it quote: Originally posted by Elysia: Well maybe you could have read the conversation a bit more carefully. What preceded "THE" comment. And how this person reacted. If one cannot tell the difference between: **people simply making mistakes, occasionally flying off the handle** - and - **people who take cheap shots (that aren't even "True") at someone WITHOUT any provocation**, then one should refrain from defending said person. Because defending malice is the same as championing malice.
i have a pretty strong sense of what is to come, there is no need to do anything, the feelings are out, dozens or 50's of people read the comment, everyone could see the bad thing. that is punishment enough. i knew that there wouldnt be further comments, or if there was it would lead to even worse rep, or possibly banning, so to me it is pointless to need to say anything, that is depending on other people's personal will if they want to defend or not, their own desires. so since it was all gonna stop there, i decided to move on and address what i wanted to fix. but then erased it. the part about inaccurate astro info. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20801 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2017 03:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by soren: i never mentioned anything about nine's 'jab'
quote: Originally posted by soren: anyone who has a heart understands how to feel about what nine said to ceridwen. the only people who would take it the wrong way are those who delight in the wrong thing.
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soren Knowflake Posts: 2729 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 04, 2017 03:52 PM
i think faith is more expressing a negative attitude. if really nothing is wrong, there is no need to hold onto it and keep bringing it up, unless feelings were hurt, or was it that egos were hurt? IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20801 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2017 03:55 PM
It has nothing to do with Nine or Ceri.I was just showing you a contradiction you made, in case you want to polish up your debate skills in the future? But I'm sure you fail to make sense on purpose, and delight in it. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2729 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 04, 2017 03:57 PM
i expect to not over-explain myself but where elyssa quoted me, i never mentioned what she thought BEFORE the quote, meaning i never mentioned it BEFORE hand, since it was in reference to that quote, i was saying in the time frame of the quote i never mentioned what it was. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20801 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2017 03:58 PM
Why should they read between the lines when you are above all this and dropped it ages ago?
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Nine Moderator Posts: 2870 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted January 04, 2017 05:08 PM
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i think faith is more expressing a negative attitude. if really nothing is wrong, there is no need to hold onto it and keep bringing it up, unless feelings were hurt, or was it that egos were hurt?
All the time, Soren. She does this all the time. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2729 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 04, 2017 05:13 PM
imo though it was a jab, you got angry and tried to be mean to someone, and that is not behaviour that is supposed to be on the forum. maybe you thought it was more factual than insulting, but still, the basis for your info was inaccurate to me, so seemed more like a jab. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20801 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2017 05:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: All the time, Soren. She does this all the time.
Can't wait for the public trial to begin. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 2729 From: 50% earth 50% zeta reticuli Registered: Sep 2012
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posted January 04, 2017 05:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: Hey!! Aren't you the archetypal hopeless romantic? Who is that girl who is in breathlessly in love with a very married and unavailable Sagittarius? And for how long now? Before that wasn't there a very married Capricorn British actor. Then there was the also married and unavailable co-worker. thumbs up, eh? Hardly surprising given your track record.
so you were saying, ceri is saying to be supportive of doux and doux said "keep on trying, you never know, it COULD work" and then you said ceri holds that attitude towards married guys, she keeps on trying with them, in hopes that it COULD work, even though it isn't because they are married. so then you said yes i see why, given your behaviour, you would support chasing a hopeless relationship. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20801 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2017 05:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by soren: imo though it was a jab, you got angry and tried to be mean to someone, and that is not behaviour that is supposed to be on the forum.
What? NOW you admit this? Tsk tsk with the *negative attitude* soren. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30540 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2017 05:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Can't wait for the public trial to begin.
Oh it never stopped. IP: Logged |