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soren
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posted January 04, 2017 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by YellowGerbera:

Astrology can be helpful but it's no dictionary. I mean if that's true then omg it would be so easy for me to understand why guys behave the way they do? haha I love my bf but mannnn he drives me nuts sometimes! Grr


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posted January 04, 2017 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:

Even though, by dragging this argument on for five pages, you have subjected Nine to much more (warranted) criticism than if you simply said your peace once and left.

Why- that was my plan all along faith. I truly disagreed with nine from the start. That's why I am dragging this, so the whole world can see. Hahahaah!!!

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posted January 04, 2017 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by soren:
you are right i dont respect you much because you have false info and you butt into my true info and repeat the false info you know as if my true info is not accurate, until you learn i am making leaps in astro and you stop butting in because you know much less than me. so i dont respect you much, especially for what i see as trying to be "someone who knows what it's all about" when you dont know much from my opinion. so i dont respect it. but i dont say that.

Are you talking about Ceridwen now? She's not trying, she knows what it's all about, and more than that. While you are just being logorrheic, that's all. Speaking about personal lives and history, you know you do this, and all it helps is a distraction. You know you have to work on empathy and social synchronization, so respect that about yourself and others.

When you interfere when someone is viciously insulted by befriending the "attacker" in any way, you become an enabler of personal insults. You will hurt more, always, and be equally criticized. Own it. And no, sharing our personal lives here is no grounds for personal insults.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

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Elysia
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posted January 04, 2017 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
Sorry it came up after you posted your thoughts, Elysia! This thread is going so fast lol!

Yes I agree that we need to follow forum rules and rule breakers should be disciplined! And to be honest, imagine if we were all in a room, having this exact conversation? Even then, I would feel it is unfair for Ceriwden! So to me, the comment should have never been said, virtually or in real life.

But yes the sag guys! My guy has Cancer moon so he's very sensitive and yet he would say he would act out.. There is no one specific aspect that explains everything!

Astrology can be helpful but it's no dictionary. I mean if that's true then omg it would be so easy for me to understand why guys behave the way they do? haha I love my bf but mannnn he drives me nuts sometimes! Grr


Yes, no problem.. I see what you mean. You were trying to restore a semblance of normalcy here!

Yes, the water moons with fire signs are an interesting lot, aren't they? I might have some follow-up questions about the Cancer moon. Might create another thread.

With Scorp moons though, the feelings may be more hidden - not as readily apparent as the Cancer moon ? I mean, one can usually tell when a Cancer moon is sulking, or needs a hug. Scorp moon will seethe on the inside & make you guess.

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posted January 04, 2017 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by soren:
Why- that was my plan all along faith. I truly disagreed with nine from the start. That's why I am dragging this, so the whole world can see. Hahahaah!!!

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posted January 04, 2017 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Elysia:
Yes, no problem.. I see what you mean. You were trying to restore a semblance of normalcy here!

Yes, the water moons with fire signs are an interesting lot, aren't they? I might have some follow-up questions about the Cancer moon. Might create another thread.

With Scorp moons though, the feelings may be more hidden - not as readily apparent as the Cancer moon ? I mean, one can usually tell when a Cancer moon is sulking, or needs a hug. Scorp moon will seethe on the inside & make you guess.


Ah the water peeps. I myself am water + fire mix! Guilty of confusing people around me. Hahaha

That's so true about Cancer Moon! Even when we are in an argument, he always goes: why don't you just give me a hug and tell me that you love me! Sure! Feel free to ask me anything!

I've never dated a Scorpio moon and knowing how Scorpio sun behaves, mannn it's probably worse when trying to figure them out? But I feel that as much as they want to keep us guessing, they want the attention still. They would reach out if they worry about losing someone..

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soren
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posted January 04, 2017 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Leeloo i never expected that nine would make another insult, i thought it was a one-time thing. so really i was not encouraging it, and i think it should be allowed at least once. so they learn from it. apart from that you guys are attacking me.

the only thing i was encouraging was that i wanted nine to still be on the forums, and feel welcomed.

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posted January 04, 2017 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i didnt think the insult was good either, whether you believe it or not, well the insult alone i didnt think really mattered, but just that it had the intention of being insultive, or so it might have been, i am not nine, and that is why i dont think nine would do it ever again. so instead of making them already feel worse after they put off an insult, which she didnt really feel was bad or something, i dont know- i dont care, i am just saying i think it was just that one time and it was done, so instead of being mean to them, i was nice

you only need to 'discipline' someone in order to change something they are doing wrong.

and i never said any, single, one of you did the wrong thing in defending anyone or anything, all i did was defend myself, from your anger at my lack of being mean.

if you wanted to defend the person attacked, you could have addressed nine. if you wanted to change me to be mean to someone who was already down, then that is exactly what you tried. either you didn't like that i was being nice to someone who would never do it again, or you misunderstood me.

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posted January 04, 2017 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cerulean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahahahaha no need to apologise. This thread is far more interesting that anything in my life at the moment! But thankyou for trying to get it back on track

quote:
Originally posted by YellowGerbera:

As for the sag guys, they are not confusing imo. I'm dating one and he says if he knows he likes someone he will make the move and let her know early on. Sag are playful tho... Like how a little boy teases a girl cuz he likes her.

But gotta agree, I hate these dating games... Don't miss it whatsoever! These people who does the games will soon realize it won't help them find true love, true happiness. We find the most precious things when we are the most truthful and honest to ourselves.


And he did just that!...Well, he said a month in advance that he was going to take me out once the Christmas/New Year rush was over. He also started making fun of me and initiating play fights. It's just something feels off and I can't quite put my finger on it. Usually if a guy likes me, they'll never leave me alone. Whereas if they're just a friend there wont be this much play fighting/organising "dates". Very annoying.

You're right game playing is ridiculous and as Gemini,...eh I'll play your game until I get bored and move on.

quote:
Originally posted by Elysia:
IMO, his Cancer mars & Scorp moon both need some kind of emotional reassurance.
Do you guys hang out at office these days?

Maybe you could try touching on the topic of weekend plans, or mention a show you've been meaning to see - in your next conversation.
Yes, his placements do point to a cautious personality - very much so! So don't worry if it's taking time. Don't give up on him just yet.


Thanks Elysia
Oh dear, giving emotional reassurance is NOT my strong point(well, not until I feel comfortable to do so i.e once he's given ME emotional reassurance haha).
We do hang out at work, but have yet to see each other outside of work. If he has nothing to do, he'll come and help me out regardless of whether I need him or not (I just accept his help, if it means less work for me then why not :P).

So I casually mentioned how there was this new restaurant that I had been wanting to go to...to which he responded, "lets go there sometime soon" when I asked if he meant that as a date he responded "Well you were the one who told me I should take you out for dinner. So be what it may" (he was ill on the day we were supposed to see each other, so I cheekily said he owed me dinner now too). I got a little upset with his response so just said "I forgot I had said that". A little while later he responded "So it's a date then", I told him not to say things like that if he was just kidding and he goes "who said I was joking?". I'll take that as confirmation that is IS a date he's planning but urgh! whatever happened to "Yes" and "No" answers. His responses are my exact responses if this situation were reversed (and I liked them). Maybe that's why it's so annoying, I'm finally getting a taste of my own medicine!

On this 'date' I'm planning on asking him straight out if he likes me/what he expects. Until then, I'll just ease off on the flirting/fighting a little and see how he reacts.

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Nine
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posted January 04, 2017 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So I casually mentioned how there was this new restaurant that I had been wanting to go to...to which he responded, "lets go there sometime soon" when I asked if he meant that as a date he responded "Well you were the one who told me I should take you out for dinner. So be what it may" (he was ill on the day we were supposed to see each other, so I cheekily said he owed me dinner now too). I got a little upset with his response so just said "I forgot I had said that". A little while later he responded "So it's a date then", I told him not to say things like that if he was just kidding and he goes "who said I was joking?". I'll take that as confirmation that is IS a date he's planning but urgh! whatever happened to "Yes" and "No" answers. His responses are my exact responses if this situation were reversed (and I liked them). Maybe that's why it's so annoying, I'm finally getting a taste of my own medicine!

On this 'date' I'm planning on asking him straight out if he likes me/what he expects. Until then, I'll just ease off on the flirting/fighting a little and see how he reacts.


So then, are you going out this weekend? Keep us posted.

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posted January 05, 2017 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Also, with nMoon in Scorpio his pMoon would be in either Virgo or Libra. You have neither Sun or Asc in these signs. So clearly he's not feeling you.

Your own pMoon is probably at the end of Sagittarius, or early Capricorn. This explains the attraction, however it's not enough to hook him.

His Ascendant is unknown, however, based on experience Lunar Scorpios prefer to play the moon sign in relationships, and his pMoon isn't engaged at all.

I believe you get along because your pMoon is in conjunction to his nVenus. Moon/Venus(yin/yin) is fab, but you'll need something more dynamic (yin/yang) to kick start a romance.

Verdict: Friends. The astrology isn't strong enough for more.


I tried to test this theory and it surprised me that (at least for me) it rings true. I just noticed with two important relationship that this was the case

in first case my progressed moon was in same sign as my ex-husband progressed sun. <i cannot get his as i dont know his time of birth..

a second important relationsip which took off inmediatelly had
my progressed moon in same sign of his progressed sun
his progressed moon same sign as my progressed sun

I am not implying that this MUST be the case, i do not have many other cases to compare. just wanted to see if anybody can confirm with their own experience by looking at relationship that took off and how the progressed moon were aspecting either progressed or natal sun-AC of the other person...

I created a thread somewhere else, just not to derail this conversation.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/006418.html

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posted January 05, 2017 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am so offended by what was said to Ceri. It wasn't an attack on her. It was fear and grief reaching it's hand from the dark attempting to bring those who have enough courage to look to the light of companionship and sharing into grief with it. Call it logic and reason. Give it the label this cold world has provided you an abundance of. I don't care. It is what it is until it changes itself. This isn't a personal attack because I know absolutely nothing about the people involved. I'm sure all the people here are generally decent people...but you exposed more about yourself here in a few sentences than Ceri ever has...it's unfortunate you made such a sacrifice with such ill intent..what a waste.

With forum titles like GU, SU, Health and Healing, etc., how the **** is this not handled more seriously here?

And thank you Faith, E, Lee for stepping in.

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posted January 05, 2017 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and from the moral argument that has been discussed in this thread,

1. I think it is UNETHICAL to use personal information that someone has disclosed to use it as counterargument. I hope that nobody else feel invited or supported in such behavior, even in situations when doing so (from the perspective of a logical argument, not ethical) may make some sense (which I guess was what Soren was trying to convey in some of her dissertations). Yes, there is indeed a risk when we share, but we need to be sensitive to that. of course everybody is free to do what they want with the info disclosed, but we the recipients of such info need to think how much we can hurt others with such careless comments. People expose so much of their personal lives here. sometimes it is the only way to get a point across. so using previously shared personal info is just NASTY.

2. Soren, I somehow get your lost in translation message, but do not want more discussion in this thread about your ways... maybe another thread for ourselves?

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posted January 05, 2017 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And in reply to my own comment:

We're all children and children must be forgiven

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posted January 05, 2017 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
With forum titles like GU, SU, Health and Healing, etc., how the **** is this not handled more seriously here?

I did email Randall asking if he'd consider locking this thread, but so far, nothing.

I've seen Randall banning people for comments less offensive than the one Nine made, so at least banning takes place, but this forum (Astro 2.0) really needs more moderation. It makes no sense when dead subforums have four mods, and the most active subforum has one.

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And thank you Faith, E, Lee for stepping in.

You're so welcome, cutie!

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posted January 05, 2017 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
Soren, I somehow get your lost in translation message, but do not want more discussion in this thread about your ways...

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