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MilaBirkin
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posted January 16, 2017 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know about you but everytime I post something n Personal Readings I feel completely ignored. It's like everyone there only have eyes for exchange, for tarots card and nothing else. But when I post someting n Astrology 2.0, I'm not so ignored.
I was thinking if this could change? I mean, really, It's like nobody wants to pay attention to Natal Chart and Solar Return of others. It's almost sad, lol. "Personal Readings" is almost just about tarot and exchange. It couldn't be a bit better if Personal Readings were only about Tarot? And that we can post our Natal Chart and Solar Return in a differente place of the forum? I'm sorry if this is unrespectful, I don't want it to be like that, It's just a suggestion that can be ignored as well. And if It's unrespectful please forgive me.

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Electro DGX
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posted January 16, 2017 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with this. When I post here, I get responses all the time and manage to get some quite helpful answers.

In Personal Readings, I have to bump my own thread after Randall has already bumped it multiple times in order to get at least one response, one that may/may not be a good response at all. It's absolutely frustrating having to go into Personal Readings to see that my thread is ignored because people are into tarot cards more than actually reading charts. I think it interferes with those who do post charts, because they get so little responses. Ask for a tarot reading though and be able to exchange, and you'll be set.

That's why I have to post questions here regarding my chart at times; nobody gives a crap about reading your chart in personal readings. Astrology 2.0 is a different story.

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DannyCappy
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posted January 16, 2017 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DannyCappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That isn't the problem.There is a lot of free readings there but is mostly about tarot/lenormand.It's not because they don't want to help is because the majority of people that read charts are here in 2.0.They barely go there!

For this one reason I agree personal chart would be better here with luck you get one response there,while here you get much,much more.

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Faith
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posted January 16, 2017 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, but I also prefer Astro 2.0 when it's not swamped with personal reading requests.

If you post a chart in Personal Readings, please specify that you've posted a chart. If you just ask a question, people will assume it's a tarot request.

Also there aren't many people on the forum who regularly try and do readings. I'm guessing that most of us don't feel competent enough. Then it falls on just a few people to do the work. That's exhausting and also a thankless job, since there will be complaints that some were ignored.

ETA: Tarot readings are usually done as exchanges, and that balances out the work. It would be nice if people tried to do a chart reading for each one they request from others. Nobody's going to monitor that, but it would be nice, on principle.

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thingsgoneby
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posted January 16, 2017 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thingsgoneby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to say that I agree. I really think there should be a separate section for Natal Chart readings etc.

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Elysia
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posted January 16, 2017 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mostly agree with what the previous posters have said.

Also, in IA or Personal Readings - sometimes people attempt a reading and the thread dies. The original poster doesn't come back with feedback or comments. If this happens a lot, people think, why bother?

We have some professional astrologers here and some equally good non-professional ones. However, like Faith said, a lot of us don't feel competent enough to offer a reading per se. We do offer opinions though, as and when we can. That's a good learning experience for both parties (provided they participate).

Maybe if more people would take a stab at it. i.e. offer opinions on any part of it, doesn't have to be a full reading. That would be nice. People who post readings can also post opinions on other people's threads. Participation is a two-way street.

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Elysia
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posted January 16, 2017 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MilaBirkin:
I'm sorry if this is unrespectful, I don't want it to be like that, It's just a suggestion that can be ignored as well. And if It's unrespectful please forgive me.

Don't worry about it, you're not being disrespectful. It sucks to not get responses! I get it.

I guess we already have a lot of forums, so people tend to pick their favourites and divide their time among them.

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Faith
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posted January 16, 2017 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Elysia:
We do offer opinions though, as and when we can. That's a good learning experience for both parties (provided they participate).

Yes, I think what a lot of people are seeking is actually a conversation. For me, astrology is most enjoyable as a conversation. "Oh I see the moon is here and aspecting this and that...so does that feel like ____?" It's a learning experience for the reader, and an invitation for the chart person to explore some issues.

It's harder when someone asks about the future, because there isn't as much potential for feedback or verification. That's why Solar Return charts are among the hardest to read, in my opinion.

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Originally posted by Elysia:
Maybe if more people would take a stab at it. i.e. offer opinions on any part of it, doesn't have to be a full reading. That would be nice. People who post readings can also post opinions on other people's threads. Participation is a two-way street.

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aquagembaby
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posted January 16, 2017 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:

ETA: Tarot readings are usually done as exchanges, and that balances out the work. It would be nice if people tried to do a chart reading for each one they request from others. Nobody's going to monitor that, but it would be nice, on principle.

I second this. We should have separate Personal Readings threads for both astro and tarot - and if people should label the threads as exchanges, and if someone is new to astrology and really feel like they can't offer an exchange, they should specify that on the thread title.

I mean people do get free chart readings via Astrology 2.0 - they just don't post the chart and ask something in their chart, but reword it so it's more general sounding...but I think we'd all learn more as astrologers this way b/c we can get practice from each other. Randall pretty please?

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at first i was hesitant to attempt to interpret people's charts in Personal Readings, but surprisingly i started enjoying it more and more

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soren
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posted January 16, 2017 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there is already a tarot forum, pretty dead. tarot and the whole idea associated with it is esoteric, kind of scary, spooky, "weird" in society eyes, i think that is why not many people are there. personal readings, the whole idea of it is "nice" "making things better" "sharing" "helping each other" which has a different idea associated to it.

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ScarlettO'Hara
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posted January 17, 2017 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScarlettO'Hara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump 😃

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CapriciousCapricorn
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posted January 17, 2017 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agree. And the worst is when for that reason you post something in 2.0 and it gets moved to Personal Readings (sigh)

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diamondbaby
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posted January 17, 2017 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand that some people prefer to post all kinds of questions in this section because they get more answers.

However, from what I understand Astrology 2.0 is for astrology discussions on a more general level. Honestly, it is quite disappointing to click on a topic that sounds interesting based on the title only to find out that it's just another one asking for a personal reading or venting about one's personal issues that have nothing or barely anything to do with astrology. I'm glad that those questions get moved.

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Vegasdlt36
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posted January 17, 2017 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vegasdlt36     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I've noticed is that some people seem to want a full on chart reading.

Or, when someone does try to offer their interpretation, the person isn't satisfied or goes on and on and on.

I feel like people should just be happy if someone attempts to help you out.

I see this here and on other astrology forums. Be grateful.

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Faith
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posted January 17, 2017 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aquagembaby:
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at first i was hesitant to attempt to interpret people's charts in Personal Readings, but surprisingly i started enjoying it more and more

I saw one of yours, it was good! Thanks for pitching in.

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soren
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posted January 17, 2017 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if this was my forum, i would only move something to personal readings if i expected it to get more replies. if i knew that it would get none there, i would leave it. try to promote growth on the forum as much as possible, well it depends on the personal preference if you prefer a busy or slower site. if its too fast it can also not be as productive, ideas get pushed aside and onto new ones so fast that a lot of people didnt get to see.

i would only move something out of this forum if someone started talking about their dog for example. "agh my dog got out today"

or "hey guys i flew my kite today".

but if its related to astrology, and the person is not new to the site, then they probably wanted to post in this forum. no one goes to asteroid astrology, only like 3 people. but theres a lot to talk about vesta, ceres, pallas, if those came up on here, it would be interesting.

although not interested in all the small ones. not many people go to vedic forum, but if vedic astrlogy sometimes came up in this forum, i bet there would be several replies. cause there is an odd or so person out of every 15-20 that might know a bit of it.

i think if the site was super busy it would be a good idea to move things to respective forums, that way let the relevant most interesting for all and astro related topics float to the top. this should be about astro discussion on all counts, and many times moving to other forums actually kills the thread.

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soren
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posted January 17, 2017 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think a part of not wanting certain threads on here is they get no replies, and randall has a personal desire to have every thread replied to. but it wasn't like that on the old pages, there was a few on the page with 0 replies. i think it is better that way. it's better not to force things, and just let them be in their natural state. sometimes people dont even want a reply maybe. to force a thread up to the top makes it awkward because no one wanted to talk about it anyway. even if you keep bumping it it might not help. sometimes there is nothing to be said. and i think that is why randall sometimes moves threads, if they arent getting replies try moving them. but i would say just let them die. and just let the forum take its natural course. i think the forum is too dead right now, it should be about 3-4 times more active.

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Electro DGX
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posted January 17, 2017 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall usually moves threads because they're posted in the wrong forums (such as synastry threads in Astrology 2.0). A member here actually posted in Astrology 2.0 asking people to stop posting synastry threads here and to post them in Interpersonal Astrology, to which people complained that no one replies there.

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soren
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posted January 17, 2017 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well when a topic is so heavy then the forum of its relation is quite active, which interpersonal is the second most active forum. so it makes sense to divide them. but i meant maybe 30% of the time he is trying to up hold is "no thread shall go unnoticed or unhelped" personal policy, to make it feel like no one is ignored when you look back on the forum. if he sees a thread that is not getting replies, and for the chance that it's topic matched the description of what is supposed to be in the other forums, then even though it could have gotten replies in the next few days, he might move it beforehand instead of leaving it. he did this because he is focusing on the getting at least 1 reply on every thread, and since his mind is focused on the order and fixing the forum in his mind of trying to structurize it, he already has it planned to get everything bumps and thus he wont think its right to bump something that wont be of forum related material, so he moves it

simply because of personal policy of trying to structurize the forum a certain way (reply on every thread)

(encourages to, since your at it, getting those thread a bump, structurizes even more so

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Faith
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posted January 17, 2017 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Randall usually moves threads because they're posted in the wrong forums (such as synastry threads in Astrology 2.0). A member here actually posted in Astrology 2.0 asking people to stop posting synastry threads here and to post them in Interpersonal Astrology, to which people complained that no one replies there.

If everyone who complains starts pitching in replying there, we will solve the problem fast.

Also:

Threads that contain charts or general questions are more likely to receive an answer than threads with tricky questions like, "What does it mean if we have these aspects?", accompanied by a list of aspects, sometimes with no orbs. Some people ask questions that are not really answerable.

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soren
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posted January 17, 2017 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
faith, those are old-school threads. i think it was the pisces energy that made people simply list aspects, as well as not as in touch with current techno. if it was 10 years ago i simply would list aspects probably, merely cause thats what everyone did. i agree those are terrible now. all it screams is "work" like

hi i have mars sq moon venus sq saturn jup op merc for 10+ more. it's better if they say a sentence or two, posting a chart is always best, or just simply the way they word it helps you feel better about answering like if only merely they said "i want to know about venus square mars" then you can tell them. but if they just list it off with barely any words to go along, dont really have an interest

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Elysia
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posted January 17, 2017 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
If everyone who complains starts pitching in replying there, we will solve the problem fast.


Exactly.

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Faith
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posted January 17, 2017 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Elysia

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Originally posted by soren:
faith, those are old-school threads. i think it was the pisces energy that made people simply list aspects, as well as not as in touch with current techno.

They may be old school, but they still happen quite a bit. If you click around in IA, you will see what I mean. And notice, those are the ones I don't reply to.

I do a lot of readings there, as long as there is a chart. (Or birth information)

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soren
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posted January 17, 2017 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
true. i just remember when i was learning astro in the age of pisces, pretty much all your listed aspects were how you would describe yourself. hi i am mars sq sun and then they list them and then others would be so conceptualizing with pisces energy that they just instantly understood it all and grasped those aspects. but now i feel it's harder to grasp. and not as interesting as it was.

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soren
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posted January 17, 2017 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i keep saying that a fixed age is about retaining the same level of love. of harmony. the only way a fixed sign will change, is if it's current situation is not feeling good and so they change it, you get hungry- go eat, you get bored- go do something. otherwise they still completely still if they feel good. that is why to grasp aspects now, you need to have a passion or enjoyment of either "contributing" (telling info) OR intuiting.

if you dont have either, you will retain fixivity and think, 'why bother?' meanwhile a mutable sign is actively pursing new things just because that's how they are.

anyway i thought this thinking in this reply was gold so i posted it. i wont deter any more.

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