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Topic: Misandry
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soren
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posted February 04, 2017 05:18 PM
  
@Leeloo the age just started in the past several years, just wait. the fact you say that 'equal rights' are above all in importance, along with much of the world agreeing, along with LGBT and other groups having as much power as others (with equal rights); is only showing what this age has yet to come (soon). equal rights? yes. but now men can not flaunt any power (with equal rights which are soon to come). and now women, who naturally have many opinions, ideals on caring and helping, much more so than men, will have much more power to do just that; help and care and lead with compassion and caring, thus they will be expressing their will much more to help the world, and men will not have that same ability, because men are less like that, yet they have to act equal to women, thus the men do not have as much influence with ideals as the women do; so if they have to act equal, they will not have as much.IP: Logged |
Venusincap89
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posted February 04, 2017 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. First we need to get to the point when men and women have genuine equal rights/status, around the world. Not there yet. If you doubt it, check "highest paid actor in 2016" and then "highest paid actress in 2016"
You'll stumble into
The Rock - 64 mil$
Jennifer Lawrence - 46 mil$
The Rock is no where near at the popularity level of Jennifer Lawrence and I assume that The Rock only made more money because he simply participated in more movies than Jennifer Lawrence
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Faith
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posted February 04, 2017 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
In all honesty, I really envy women and I wish I was born a woman.
That's because you don't live life as a woman and endure what we go through. It's easy to envy something you don't even understand.
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athenaia
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posted February 04, 2017 05:21 PM
Was the model "nasty" to Leo, or is Leo someone that puts an expiration date on his women? Let's remember Leo has been an infamous playboy since the dawn of time. Google "Leonardo DiCaprio p*ssy posse" and read some of the (well sourced) articles that pop up. This "posse" is still functioning today, and these middle aged men frequently target newly minted 18-21 year old models to come join their lewd parties. I'm not against age gap relationships, but I am against men using their age/money/power in a coveted industry to take advantage of naive women. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
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posted February 04, 2017 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by soren:
@leeloo the age just started in the past several years, just wait. the fact you say that 'equal rights' along with much of the world agreeing, along with LGBT and other groups having as much power as others; is only showing what this age has yet to come (soon). equal rights? yes. but now men can not flaunt any power. and now women, who naturally have many opinions, ideals on caring and helping, will have much more power to do just that; with equal rights; thus they will be expressing their will much more to help the world, and men will not have that same ability, yet they have to act equal to women, thus women have more power.
Not really. It's actually unfair to suggest a fight for equal rights is an attempt to "rule" over the other. It undermines this fight. Not the moment to worry who rules next, but the moment to plea for equal rights, since they are not here yet. ------------------
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Venusincap89
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posted February 04, 2017 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
That's because you don't live life as a woman and endure what we go through. It's easy to envy something you don't even understand.
I must admit that's true, I consider myself a man with great empathetic qualities but until I am a woman myself, I will never know what it is like to be a woman Personally... I have a retrograde Jupiter so I really struggled to get marks in university, failing multiple times and feeling depressed. When I saw female students in science departments get bumped up marks just because they are women under the new equality program, I nearly lost my **** . But then again, there could be many things that I just don't see
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LeeLoo2014
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From: Venus cornering Neptune
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posted February 04, 2017 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
The Rock is no where near at the popularity level of Jennifer Lawrence and I assume that The Rock only made more money because he simply participated in more movies than Jennifer Lawrence
No, it shows the reality that even the most famous and popular actresses earn much less than the most popular actors. Gender based discrimination still alive and well. It gives you an imagine of general standards, if it happens even at this level. Obviously, it's not about The Rock, but all rich actors vs all rich actresses, if you check the lists over the past...I don't know...some thousands of thousands of years. ------------------
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soren
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posted February 04, 2017 05:24 PM
it's not an attempt to rule, but lets say men have a power of 5, women have a power of 10. men are holding woman down to a power of 3 (without equal rights), but soon when equal rights will prevail (i am not saying they are but if half the world already agrees with the notion, it's already underway), then men will have to not supress the woman, and thus the men will be at 5, and the woman will be at 10. i am not saying it is intention to be more powerful; i am just saying that will be the outcome. in an equal rights world; woman will thrive. equal rights alone is a feminine ideal of caring, meanwhile a mascuilne one is be as powerful as you individually can be. and not care for others. men thrive in that energy. equal rights surpresses the masculine energy, men have to behave kindly to others (in this new feminine energy) yet woman already are naturally like this; in fact they thrive in it. men don't thrive in equal rights; woman do. IP: Logged |
Venusincap89
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posted February 04, 2017 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
No, it shows the reality that even the most famous and popular actresses earn much less than the most popular actors. Gender based discrimination still alive and well. It gives you an imagine of general standards, if it happens even at this level.
I don't know leeloo... I have great respect for you and I would like to believe you... but I just can't imagine why hollywood productions would pay more money to the Rock in comparisn to Jennifer Lawrence.. ( I mean.. lotta media organizations look like they are illogically throwing money when we see some of their failed movies, but in reality they are trying their best to make money all the time)
I can't see any logical explanation to this, I honestly just think the Rock happend to be more active in terms of media productions. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 18863
From: Venus cornering Neptune
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posted February 04, 2017 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by soren:
it's not an attempt to rule, but lets say men have a power of 5, women have a power of 10. men are holding woman down to a power of 3 (without equal rights), but soon when equal rights will prevail (i am not saying they are but if half the world already agrees with the notion, it's already underway), then men will have to not supress the woman, and thus the men will be at 5, and the woman will be at 10. i am not saying it is intention to be more powerful; i am just saying that will be the outcome. in an equal rights world; woman will thrive.
In an equal rights world women will just be equal. What is the alternative? ------------------
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soren
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posted February 04, 2017 05:29 PM
but they won't be equal. it's like saying we're all fish in the sea, woman have the ability to build houses but men have sharp teeth. with equal rights the men can not use their sharp teeth to get ahead; now all is left is men who can swim; and females that can build houses; thus the females are more advantaged. i am just saying why the new age feminine might have more power. it's their energy is in line. IP: Logged |
Venusincap89
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From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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posted February 04, 2017 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by athenaia:
Was the model "nasty" to Leo, or is Leo someone that puts an expiration date on his women?
I don't remember the full detail but from what I understood, leo was head over the hills for this model, but she just wasted his time. She dated him for about a year despite the fact that she had no interest in him. And during that time, leo spent lots of money just on the traveling alone because she lived in some other foreign country and Leo went to her like twice a month or so. She did not once visit him in the west. Not once. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted February 04, 2017 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
I don't know leeloo... I have great respect for you and I would like to believe you... but I just can't imagine why hollywood productions would pay more money to the Rock in comparisn to Jennifer Lawrence..
I can't see any logical explanation to this, I honestly just think the Rock happend to be more active in terms of media productions.
All right, let me rephrase it: all male actor celebrities are paid much more than all female actress celebrities. Reflective of the general reality that women are paid less for the same job, still, in all fields, as a widespread fact. So what we all should worry about for now is to get equality, before other scenarios. ------------------
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Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
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posted February 04, 2017 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
I must admit that's true, I consider myself a man with great empathetic qualities but until I am a woman myself, I will never know what it is like to be a womanPersonally... I have a retrograde Jupiter so I really struggled to get marks in university, failing multiple times and feeling depressed. When I saw female students in science departments get bumped up marks just because they are women under the new equality program, I nearly lost my **** . But then again, there could be many things that I just don't see
How can you prove they didn't earn their marks? No sense getting angry unless you know it for sure. Do you honestly believe that women cannot do well in science? Men may have an advantage in certain types of thinking, but not when they do not take care to learn the material. IP: Logged |
Selenite
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Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 04, 2017 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by soren:
but they won't be equal. it's like saying we're all fish in the sea, woman have the ability to build houses but men have sharp teeth. with equal rights the men can not use their sharp teeth to get ahead; now all is left is men who can swim; and females that can build houses; thus the females are more advantaged. i am just saying why the new age feminine might have more power. it's their energy is in line.
It's true if you think that all men have the same 'abilities' and would only use abilities that suppress women to get ahead if given the choice.. IP: Logged |
soren
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posted February 04, 2017 05:34 PM
none of it might be true; i believe there is a natural balance; however all the greatest people making advancements in history were male; it is said in belief that it was a masculine age; in a masculine energy; males are stronger, they get what they want; they use their power for power and gain. in a feminine age is different; in a feminine age we all feel connected and peaceful; we must do what is best for all; and woman can lead. men are good at being strong, woman are good at nurturing; thus will be more dominant in this new age. if any of it is true. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
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posted February 04, 2017 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by soren:
but they won't be equal. it's like saying we're all fish in the sea, woman have the ability to build houses but men have sharp teeth. with equal rights the men can not use their sharp teeth to get ahead; now all is left is men who can swim; and females that can build houses; thus the females are more advantaged. i am just saying why the new age feminine might have more power. it's their energy is in line.
You lost me at the zoo, Soren. Just keep swimming  ------------------
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Venusincap89
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posted February 04, 2017 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
How can you prove they didn't earn their marks? No sense getting angry unless you know it for sure. Do you honestly believe that women cannot do well in science? Men may have an advantage in certain types of thinking, but not when they do not take care to learn the material.
because I saw one of their work (so many grammatical mistakes on the reports too, they got at least 20~30% mark boost.) students boasted about it too. I would honestly feel easier if I was wrong about this, hallucinating or something because that would tell me that I have less barriers to overcome in life this is basically the type of feminists that my school faced and still faces today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxY-5ISEHPg IP: Logged |
soren
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posted February 04, 2017 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
You lost me at the zoo, Soren.Just keep swimming
well you can just stop replying so the others can get it without someone trying to say i'm wrong :zzz: IP: Logged |
bonsai
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posted February 04, 2017 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
That's because you don't live life as a woman and endure what we go through. It's easy to envy something you don't even understand.
Women don't really have it all that easy either. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted February 04, 2017 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
because I saw one of their work (so many grammatical mistakes on the reports too, they got at least 20~30% mark boost.)
What country is this? Canada? I definitely never got a boost because of my gender!  Not in America or England. How insulting to our intelligence.  quote:
Originally posted by Venusincap89:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxY-5ISEHPg
LOL She's got her own KKK 
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Venusincap89
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posted February 04, 2017 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
All right, let me rephrase it: all male actor celebrities are paid much more than all female actress celebrities. Reflective of the general reality that women are paid less for the same job, still, in all fields, as a widespread fact. So what we all should worry about for now is to get equality, before other scenarios.
I am sorry leeloo.. I still have great respect for you but I can't be with you on this.
Hollywood productions work with lots of money with great risk of failing their investment. I don't think any production organizations knowingly pay men more for the sake of favoring one sex over another. Perhaps men in general involve themselves in more action scenes where injuries or physical laboring is much more needed. I don't know. There are so many other possibilities than this so called 'lack of equality'. Ronda Rousey said the samething when asked a similar question too. Someone asked her do you think there is ineqaulity in the MMA field given that you make much less money in comparison to _____.
And her answer was, he fought more fights than I did. Of course I m going to make less money than him.
and so on
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Venusincap89
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posted February 04, 2017 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
LOLShe's got her own KKK
believe it or not she is the leader of feminist organization at my school. Or at least she used to be. Not so sure about now. You'd think she is out there, until you see feminists who has much more hatred against men IP: Logged |
soren
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posted February 04, 2017 05:51 PM
as i said; in the past; males were the most important figures; and we just left that age. of course males will be paid more for acting; all moveis the main character is often men. abraham lincoln, the first astronaught, the scientists, the fighters, these are all main roles, and the main role get paid more. in the past; the men were the most important figures in power. so they will make more in acting. and in other fields as well, the more labourous jobs cost more; maybe they should cost less, but in man's world he made it cost a lot, and only men can do those jobs well. in a femininen world; charity and organizing and helping will cost more, and men won't be as good at it as females. it's a turn of energy. soon. it's already taking place probably.
you guys obviously can't envision my understanding; but in the past; (masculine energy) woman were support figures for the men doing the power seeking advancing. the woman would help as a secretary, bring him his papers, he would do all the real advancing and genious. woman were background characters more so in movies. just like in real life. but with the energy change; woman are going to do the advancing, in peace, in prosperity and goodness; they will naturally prevail at this and men will be by their side saying 'hey i like that idea' 'good job!' but not be able to do it as good as woman.
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Elysia
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posted February 04, 2017 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
believe it or not she is the leader of feminist organization at my school. Or at least she used to be. Not so sure about now. You'd think she is out there, until you see feminists who has much more hatred against men
Okay and Miss Red speaks for all women, I suppose?
 ETA: I am sorry bout whatever discrimination you may have faced at school. But, hey, if they did get ahead on false pretenses - how far can they really get anyway?
Why should you be worried about that? Accolades built on falsifications crumble of their own accord, sooner or later. IP: Logged |
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