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Topic: Misandry
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Selenite
Knowflake Posts: 1338
From: Lyra
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 04, 2017 06:27 PM
  
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
I just said I felt same as you did with men, with women.
LOOK HOW HARD I AM GETTING GANG BANGED RIGHT NOW
Yeah, and I said I realized that I WAS WRONG. please read it again if you're gonna call me names based on an incorrect comprehension! Lol omg IP: Logged |
soren
Knowflake Posts: 3034
From: a can
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 04, 2017 06:27 PM
venus in cap, you are saying woman often say bad things about men, and now you are just being like them, doing the same thing; which is equal. however selenite i do not think ever complained about men; she says we are all equal. she says it's down to the individual if they are mean; and not the gender in general. which might be true; or maybe in this new age men actually are losing power and we are basing it off the past. IP: Logged |
Venusincap89
Knowflake Posts: 1140
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 04, 2017 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hm I feel here the next thing will be a more direct insult coming from you, sadly. I hope I am wrong.Not sure why you think gentlemen will accept your denial of mathematical facts. I don't think your problem here which appears to be very painful to you is gender-related, or related to other people, men or women.
All I did was respectfully propose the possibility that perhaps, JUST MAYBE, Rock happened to make more movies than Jennifer Lawrence.
And you went on and on passive aggressively about how I am a sexist. I have a south node in 1st house. If I can be proved wrong, I will gladly acknowledge it.
IN FACT I WOULD LOVE TO BE PROVED WRONG, AS THAT WOULD TELL ME THAT I HAVE LESS HURDLES TO OVERCOME IN LIFE. If you can prove to me that Jennifer Lawrence shot more movies, more commercials and etc, than the Rock, than I am in fact wrong.
But you did not prove anything U just kept going on and on passive aggressively about how I am a sexist.
THIS IS WHY IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO REASON WITH LADIES IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 21582
From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 04, 2017 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
U just kept going on and on passive aggressively about how I am a sexist.
THIS IS WHY IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO REASON WITH LADIES
sorry for laughing IP: Logged |
soren
Knowflake Posts: 3034
From: a can
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 04, 2017 06:35 PM
it's not impossible because you just raised a point that they perhaps overlooked; that in general he shot more movies. maybe this is true; and would take further research on their parts. it is not impossible to argue. IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 21582
From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 04, 2017 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by soren:
however selenite i do not think ever complained about men; she says we are all equal. she says it's down to the individual if they are mean; and not the gender in general.
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Venusincap89
Knowflake Posts: 1140
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 04, 2017 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by soren:
venus in cap, you are saying woman often say bad things about men, and now you are just being like them, doing the same thing; which is equal. however selenite i do not think ever complained about men; she says we are all equal. she says it's down to the individual if they are mean; and not the gender in general. which might be true; or maybe in this new age men actually are losing power and we are basing it off the past.
yes I apologize and you are correct. I am being just like them.
But it's really difficult because women genuinely don't believe they are being a hypocrite. So what ends up happening is any sort of concerns for the other side (Men) gets completely silenced. How do we overcome this??? If this goes on there will be no equality. Pendulum will swing so far towards the women's side, that when pendulum decides to swing back the other side, there will be lots of chaos
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bonsai
Knowflake Posts: 482
From: another place, another time
Registered: May 2012
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posted February 04, 2017 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
THIS IS WHY IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO REASON WITH LADIES
But...... that is a sexist remark. IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 21582
From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 04, 2017 06:36 PM
That's why I was laughing.IP: Logged |
Venusincap89
Knowflake Posts: 1140
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 04, 2017 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
sorry for laughing
well you've been laughing from the beginning, I am used to it now IP: Logged |
soren
Knowflake Posts: 3034
From: a can
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 04, 2017 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
yes I apologize and you are correct. I am being just like them.
But it's really difficult because women genuinely don't believe they are being a hypocrite. So what ends up happening is any sort of concerns for the other side (Men) gets completely silenced. How do we overcome this???
well so far i have no seen hypocrisy. as i said they were not incorrect when they said males got paid more. they were not wrong or hypocrtical; but now that you raise the point that maybe those males shot more movies; is a new point for them to argue. which is all logical. i can not think of any true hypocrtical situations. but if one comes up let me know and i'm sure each person has a good reason for their words. IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 21582
From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 04, 2017 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
well you've been laughing from the beginning, I am used to it now
Okay. Anyway, it's not mean laughter, just "WTF?" laughter. IP: Logged |
Elysia
Knowflake Posts: 2602
From: Gotham
Registered: Aug 2015
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posted February 04, 2017 06:39 PM
Ohhh.. This thread.  Vixen, Sorry it got out of hand a bit there.
I think the Mars-Pluto opposition on Asc-Dsc & BML are sufficient to account for your current feelings. Along with the current political climate.
What's your progressed Venus doing? IP: Logged |
Venusincap89
Knowflake Posts: 1140
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 04, 2017 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Okay.Anyway, it's not mean laughter, just "WTF?" laughter.
I also apologize for reminding you of KKK IP: Logged |
Elysia
Knowflake Posts: 2602
From: Gotham
Registered: Aug 2015
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posted February 04, 2017 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
All I did was respectfully propose the possibility that perhaps, JUST MAYBE, Rock happened to make more movies than Jennifer Lawrence.
Assuming you're not a troll... Why don't you give counter-examples as to how an actor's brand value is supposedly calculated and how it justifies someone's pay check? Pick anyone. Btw, you have been consistently rude to people who have been trying to put themselves in your shoes and trying to show some other perspective. Yet you're the one who feels persecuted no matter what. IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 21582
From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 04, 2017 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
I also apologize for reminding you of KKK
Well I never said you did. I said some MGTOW videos remind me of it. Do you have any videos you can show me that represent non-hating MGTOW? IP: Logged |
soren
Knowflake Posts: 3034
From: a can
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 04, 2017 06:47 PM
i'm listening to this (if you listen to the first 30 seconds you'll get the jist of the whole vid)which seems neautral, although it is about a male describing male's experiences of female which always turns out men not gaining anything but females gaining a lot. it is very neautral but coming from men who wanted a good relationship but the woman did not care. a quote " she openly admits to her male friends that if she truly loved her boyfriend, she would not cheat; and if she cheats it shows that she did not love him enough" and obviously the male sees this as women behaving badly or non caring. i say women and not woman because he has accumulated many examples from his group or online community. i personally agree with the woman, if she wants to cheat, she can. but she can't have me, because i'm looking for someone who loves me. IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 21582
From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 04, 2017 06:49 PM
That's neutral to you?"Women always trade up" ? What about men? Honestly??? IP: Logged |
soren
Knowflake Posts: 3034
From: a can
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 04, 2017 06:50 PM
ignore the title; i hadnt even seen it till just now. they aren't saying 'women are bad' they are saying 'men compromise so much, and yet the woman doesn't care and moves on to the next guy' IP: Logged |
Venusincap89
Knowflake Posts: 1140
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 04, 2017 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Well I never said you did.I said some MGTOW videos remind me of it. Do you have any videos you can show me that represent non-hating MGTOW?
oh sorry. Thinking ape/stardusk on youtube is great example IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 21582
From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 04, 2017 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by soren:
ignore the title; i hadnt even seen it till just now. they aren't saying 'women are bad' they are saying 'men compromise so much, and yet the woman doesn't care and moves on to the next guy'
How is it that some men do not understand that this is not a WOMAN thing, this is a human thing? Men do this same thing to women all the time.
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Venusincap89
Knowflake Posts: 1140
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted February 04, 2017 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
That's neutral to you?"Women always trade up" ? What about men? Honestly???
yes most MGTOW community acknowledges that men tends to be dominated by their own sexual desire. But they mention this to explain how such men's flaws works against their own interests.
And as for women's tendency to trade up, they don't blame women for this trait. They explain such quality in a sense that this is defense-mechanism/survival instinct which women developed from generation to generation and so on. And how they only do this to achieve security.
They very much view this from a historical and scientific point of view.
Unfortunately, there are many newly-entering MGTOW content producers that are feuling men's hatred against women.. those guys definitely do come across like kkk IP: Logged |
Elysia
Knowflake Posts: 2602
From: Gotham
Registered: Aug 2015
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posted February 04, 2017 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by soren:
ignore the title; i hadnt even seen it till just now. they aren't saying 'women are bad' they are saying 'men compromise so much, and yet the woman doesn't care and moves on to the next guy'
Ohhhhhh Right. Coz that's a whole lot different.
Okay, I get it now. Women aren't bad. They just force men into making a lot of compromises and fly the coop when a better offer comes along. IP: Logged |
soren
Knowflake Posts: 3034
From: a can
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 04, 2017 06:54 PM
well in all my life i have never heard of men complaining about the women in a mass such as this; it's always men are powerful and corrupt; women have to complain; for once recently it's switched; with my own experience to testify. maybe just maybe it is changing. in case you didnt notice; the men in this vid are not su pporting masculine ideals (get what i want, do what i have the power to do) instead they are expressing more female ideals; be peaceful; calmly talk about what your problem is; ask for help IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 21582
From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 04, 2017 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by Venusincap89:
yes most MGTOW community acknowledges that men tends to be dominated by their own sexual desire. But they mention this to explain how such men's flaws works against their own interests.
And as for women's tendency to trade up, they don't blame women for this trait. They explain such quality in a sense that this is defense-mechanism/survival instinct which women developed from generation to generation and so on. And how they only do this to achieve security.
They very much view this from a historical and scientific point of view.
If they are so interested in history and fairness, why focus so obsessively on what women are doing wrong? Seriously why not devote all that energy to self-realization and see how you can become better people? IP: Logged |
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