posted February 14, 2017 06:18 PM            

Bananaz, of course I care and consider side effects! I've personally been the victim of doctors neglect and suffered from side effects that will effect me for the rest of my life. It's a huge problem in the Healthcare system, one I hope to one day correct. Ideally, a doctor will take the time to review a patients personal case, their overall health, and all the possible side effects that could be caused by prescribing a particular drug. Unfortunately that does not always happen, but in the future I want to help correct this corruptness and neglect. Medical neglect is horrible and has died consequences. However, no psychologists can usualy prescribe medication, only medically trained psychiatrists can do that.

I think you are confusing what I want to do with a psychiatrist or a clinical psychologist. Health/medical psychologists focus on how mental, emotional, and social factors affect a person's physical well-being. We focus on emotional reactions to illness, recovery from an illness, promote healthy behaviors/mindsets, study how patients handle illness, why some people don’t follow medical advice, we research the most effective ways to control pain or change poor health habits, we help develop personal health care strategies that help build emotional and physical well-being. Personally, I eventually want to go into public health to help reform our broken Healthcare system in the US. Too many people suffer at the hands of neglectful healthcare. I want to first focus on helping individuals first though, which is why I'm doing health psychology first.

Furthermore, I do not want to detract from the main intention of the post anymore. So I will try to refrain from posting

posted February 14, 2017 06:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Saturn in Sagittarius is sitting on my 3-planet conjunction of Sag Jupiter-Neptune -Sun and trines Asc in Aries.

It is painful! The thought patterns tend towards melancholy and a general feeling of "Whats the point?" abound. Very tough!

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I have 4 planets in Sag and my DSC, too

posted February 14, 2017 06:47 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
If you want my, [b]GENIOUS opinion, then don't go to a doctor. Trust your heart, and know that brain deficiencies causing metal illness are very rare, and it is mostly just your mind playing games with you and no drug can ever cure that. So just rough it out without a doc. As they are so quick to label you with a mental illness without actually listening or understanding anything you say. [/B]

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This isn't right to say... you have no clue what is going on. I have been fighting depression for years thinking it was just "depression"... I was just dignosed with Chiari Malformation (where part of the Cerebellum is herniating out of the bottom of my skull putting pressure on my spine/brain stem... I'm going to be having surgery to decompress the pressure. My depression was caused by this. Some doctors do listen, sometimes it is an actual physical issue that can not be treated with or without meds.

posted February 14, 2017 09:09 PM            

Pluto square Chiron also occured.

When I finally went inpatient for my trauma work (PTSD and Panic attacks) and my depression, I had these Saturn transits:
Sun sextile Saturn, Saturn trine Moon, Saturn conjunct Pluto. Pluto square Chiron and Sun conjunct Neptune were big factors then too.

posted February 15, 2017 02:11 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
that is a different scenario i was talking about when there is no physical problems

and i'm not telling people their depression doesnt matter.

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Telling people to "rough it out without a doctor" isn't exactly helpful, either. That's very, very close to saying "suck it up." At the very least, you're discouraging someone from seeking psychiatric help when the stigma surrounding mental illness causes people with serious mental illness to feel reluctant to seek help in the first place.

posted February 15, 2017 02:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
For astrology purposes, when I hit my lowest and started to go to outpatient therapy I had these Saturn transits:
Saturn trine Moon,
Saturn sextile Mars,
Saturn sextile Uranus,
Saturn conjunct Pluto,
Saturn trine MC.

Pluto square Chiron also occured.

When I finally went inpatient for my trauma work (PTSD and Panic attacks) and my depression, I had these Saturn transits:
Sun sextile Saturn, Saturn trine Moon, Saturn conjunct Pluto. Pluto square Chiron and Sun conjunct Neptune were big factors then too.

My advice is not to wait like I did. Get help and therapy if you can. I waited until I almost killed myself, until it was so bad I couldn't ignore it. Then I suffered major consequences, and lost a best friend. Listen to your body and your heart, I wish I had.

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posted February 15, 2017 04:59 AM            

It was depressing, yes.. but the (mundane and terrible) work I put into getting myself out of the rut I was in at the time has payed off. Didn't take meds but was not exactly sober most of the time. Now t Saturn is conjunct my Mercury and I'm in a position to change things for real, although even that has had its serious down points..

For what it's worth!

posted February 15, 2017 06:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Isa:
Telling people to not take anti depressants in irresponsable.

Now lets get back to astrology.

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posted February 16, 2017 02:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Isa:
Telling people to not take anti depressants in irresponsable.

Now lets get back to astrology.

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posted February 16, 2017 02:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Isa:
Stopping insane patients from getting psycho-shock therapy is irresponsable.

Now lets get back to astrology.

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posted February 16, 2017 02:16 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
that was your guys fault. there was equality on both sides of the argument then you k ept quoting each other

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posted February 16, 2017 02:25 AM            

i know that medication is not good. if you care about your brains and your future, your brain is better off natural. without natural you will put your brain in an altered state. the changes can be permanent lasting, your brain chemistry never to be normal again. especially when 1/4 have gotten that way it's natural and you shouldnt expect that 1/4 should need medication. humans through out history should never take medication imagine if our ancestors took medication for thousands of years. whats the point when they dont even need it. im not saying you dont have problems im just saying the medication isnt good. you still have problems and mental problems but medication is not going to fix it.