posted March 04, 2017 07:05 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
I think the opposite it actually makes more sense to me why you don't feel like your sign
1)So many conjunctions to Sun
2)Sun Neptune - Piscean Aquarius
Sun Uranus - ok, should make a strong Aquarian but with Sun in Detriment a strong Aquarius will be house-wise the one with Sun in fire or air house. Yours is in 4H, water house and more importantly - cardinal house (adding even more water influence to your Sun!)
4) Mars square Sun - 6 degrees square to luminary is an active square. With Mars especially, had it been trine, sextile or conjunct your Sun, it would only empower it. But square weakens it further.

I have only 1 question now. You said Uranus is in 4H (conjunction to Sun). Is it also in Aquarius or Capricorn? And what other aspects does it make in your chart? Basically, is your dispositor strong or weak?

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My Uranus is in Aquarius in the 4th house, conjunct Sun and IC by six degrees. It is also trine Moon by two degrees and sextile Pluto by two degrees. That's all it does in my chart. There's not much going on with it which would explain why I feel more disconnected from it.

posted March 04, 2017 07:12 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Stellia,

thank you for your reply. I wouldn't say that Taurus Sun in 3H is a weak Sun. It's just ok in that house, kinda neutral. But out of all the afflictions, the worst one for the Sun (in my opinion) is a Moon square, because Moon is such a huge part of our personalities. Taurus or Leo? Which one will take over? Taurus Sun whose dispositor is afflicted AGAIN by the 'worst' planet (worst for Venus because Venus is all about love and harmony and Saturn curbs it) will not feel comfortable in its skin. Then maybe Moon will take the centre stage. It's in Leo after all Sun/Moon square person always has that one eternal question: who am I really?

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This is very true - my friends call me an overthinker but it's just that I spend so much time flitting between head and heart - I am never really clear about what I want.

posted March 04, 2017 07:41 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
colorful butterfly,

Sun in Cancer in 10H. 10H is all right for Sun, it's the house above the horizon. Sun likes the limelight. 10H sets a good scene for it. Sun squares Moon and Pluto. Moon conjuncts Pluto in 1H in Libra. Your Sun therefore is squared by its dispositor (Moon). You are very much ruled by your feelings and emotions. Your chart gives an impression of a very extraverted airy Cancer. What a mix, right You said that you feel like a Gemini but probably what you feel like is just AIR (a mix of air signs). Your air Moon is in cardinal 1H, your air Venus (A possible chart ruler) is close to MC (cardinal 10H). Your Moon can sometimes overpower your Sun.

Your Cancer Libra square is something that is strongly felt, right? Not only because it's a cardinal houses square but also because of Cancer sign in a too out there house for this sign. You can definitely relate to the description of Cancer, mainly the bits about sensitivity and loyalty (because even though your Sun is afflicted, it is placed in 10H, you are a Cancer all right but will also feel your Moon sign strongly (Venus is further making you feel like air sign rather than a water one).

If we look at Pluto square Sun square alone, this is something that makes you more watery, it's the energy your Sun is familiar with (Pluto-Scorpio-water), so it's a 'soft' affliction for your Cancer Sun. Your Sun is supported by a sextile from Saturn and a trine from Uranus. Moon Pluto conjunction in 1H + Venus Neptune opposition will add more sensitivity to your nature. So maybe 50% Cancer. Is that about right? 50% water, 50% air...or if I have to choose then 40% water and 60% air.

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So I took the MBTI test and through a personality cafe forum , talks with others it was decided that my personality was most likely a ESTP. I can see it in some ways such as I want to be in a relationship but another part of me doesn't really care for one as I get bored easy and am more attracted to the excitement than intimacy, although I can do intimacy , if that makes sense. I am attracted to happy , fun loving, light hearted people even though my moon has a scorpio like vibe to it. I am just curious if you can figure out what aspects or what in my chart creates this personality type for me?

posted March 04, 2017 10:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
An interesting trait of Capricorns that isn't brought up in astrology much (mostly because I feel caps are misunderstood) is the duality that the Capricorn represents. It is both the goat and the fish, I call it the mergoat (mermaid and goat haha, which is also the meaning behind my username). I find that especially in women Capricorns, the more "watery" traits behind the tail may come into play. I believe Caps are the hybrids of water and earth, maybe that's why Pisces and Capricorn suns are often drawn to each other, the cap sees their other half in the fish pisces, and the pisces sees the deeper meaning behind the superficial goat. In essence, you may not possess all the typical earth/Cap traits because the water duality may override that.

That's the case for me, I'm extremely ambitious, but I would never let my ambition take over my morals or step over someone to get ahead. I will reach my own goals by others recognizing my worth alone. I had the opportunity to get a great job, with a pay increase, and better benefits, but even though I knew I was better suited for the job and the boss wanted me to have it, I declined it. I knew the person who held the position offered to me, she needed the money badly, she had always been kind to me, and she could not afford to be fired (had 3 kids to support). I would never take a job from someone who needed it.

Furthermore, I do NOT identify with the conservative mindset that many Capricorn suns have. I find that male caps are usually more likely to be heavily conservative than the females though. I have heavy Aqua in my chart, including an Aqua mercury, and it's my second dominant sign (after Cap), so maybe that's why I'm more progressive.

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The sign comes into place more if you live and act conservative (most strict parents I know have a strong Capricorn influence, though quite a few of them are very politically liberal), but political conservatism is indicated by aspects to the North Node and 2nd and 4th houses (Venus/Taurus and 2nd house to North Node is fiscal conservatism, Moon/Cancer and 4th house to North Node is social conservatism). My blog http://leftwingastrology.blogspot.com has many examples (minor aspects, declinations, and midpoints are a big factor in many charts, and are often overlooked by casual astrologers and people who only recently got into it).

posted March 05, 2017 06:11 AM            

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Originally posted by kewf1988:
I tend to always see the traits of people's Sun sign in how they act or even express themselves on Facebook or Twitter.

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Seriously? )

posted March 05, 2017 11:17 AM            

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Originally posted by colorful butterfly:
I am just curious if you can figure out what aspects or what in my chart creates this personality type for me?

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posted March 05, 2017 11:18 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
people have more head connection

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posted March 05, 2017 12:34 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
I think we talked about this before and what I wrote earlier in this thread also explains all the 'whys'. Basically, you have a lot of Air, busy Southern and Eastern parts of the chart, with planets in angular 1st and 10th houses. All that makes you extroverted and self-assertive.

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Yes, we did talk about my chart and the energy that stands out the most. I was interested in what specific aspects would create this type of personality.

Just some things I am trying to figure out as far as Astrology and MBTI personalities.