posted February 16, 2017 03:28 PM            

it's also interesting that people likely understand what an aquarius is by viewing 3+ people and seeing what they have in common.

however you can also do that when someone has the sun conjunct chiron, in my opinion it is a veerry subtle influence; yet i can easily say some similarities they all have, like a certain kind of "downness" about them.

but if you looked at any of them individually you would never notice it. you would rather notice their planetary aspects but since you grouped 10+ people who all share the same thing it pops out at you.

posted February 16, 2017 03:45 PM            

I'm not a super rebellious type. I even find myself getting upset at people who can't simply follow the rules. I don't mind being unique but I don't try to stand out and I'm anything but humanitarian. I am a loner, but I find that to fit both Scorpio and Aquarius.

I do find that I will have a tough time keeping a conversation flowing with people if it is just small talk and if it lacks depth. I am not quick to engage with others, yet want to know everything about them without disclosing personal information of my own. I have been known as being very nosy because of this. I often feel like I am constantly fighting with issues of power and control and my most frequent emotion that I deal with is anger. It's difficult for me to take jokes at first and often I find myself over analyzing situations and missing basic details. I have been more critical and secretive from society than an Aquarius normally would be. The only thing that stands out as super Aquarian for me is my extreme aptitude for technology.

posted February 16, 2017 03:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Sagical:
I'm an Aries but there is heavy earth in my chart plus all my earth houses are loaded.... even my chart ruler (both sun and rising are in earth)....

But I do like new adventures and travel.

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posted February 16, 2017 04:04 PM            

You know what's interesting? Everytime I'm reading something you write I feel like the person behind these replies is Aquarius But I don't know you of course. Aquarius is a highly intellectual sign and a deep thinker, your posts reflect that.

I don't mind being unique but I don't try to stand out

But that's exactly an Aquarius description. They don't want to be like Leos (trying to stand out). You said you don't mind being unique but if, for example you find yourself admired by people for being unique and for your intellect, I think you will derive pleasure from a complement like that. That's the best one for Aquarius.

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Sometimes I don't feel that Aquarian. Often I feel more Scorpionic, probably due to being Mars-dominant with Mars in Scorpio on my ASC.

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posted February 16, 2017 04:07 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
The key characteristics of your own sign that don't apply to you maybe? For example, I'm a Capricorn. But I am not ambitious, at all. Maybe you're a Leo but don't like compliments, attention. Or maybe you're a Virgo who's got no problem living in dirt? Let me know. There's something I want to check.

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An interesting trait of Capricorns that isn't brought up in astrology much (mostly because I feel caps are misunderstood) is the duality that the Capricorn represents. It is both the goat and the fish, I call it the mergoat (mermaid and goat haha, which is also the meaning behind my username). I find that especially in women Capricorns, the more "watery" traits behind the tail may come into play. I believe Caps are the hybrids of water and earth, maybe that's why Pisces and Capricorn suns are often drawn to each other, the cap sees their other half in the fish pisces, and the pisces sees the deeper meaning behind the superficial goat. In essence, you may not possess all the typical earth/Cap traits because the water duality may override that.

That's the case for me, I'm extremely ambitious, but I would never let my ambition take over my morals or step over someone to get ahead. I will reach my own goals by others recognizing my worth alone. I had the opportunity to get a great job, with a pay increase, and better benefits, but even though I knew I was better suited for the job and the boss wanted me to have it, I declined it. I knew the person who held the position offered to me, she needed the money badly, she had always been kind to me, and she could not afford to be fired (had 3 kids to support). I would never take a job from someone who needed it.

Furthermore, I do NOT identify with the conservative mindset that many Capricorn suns have. I find that male caps are usually more likely to be heavily conservative than the females though. I have heavy Aqua in my chart, including an Aqua mercury, and it's my second dominant sign (after Cap), so maybe that's why I'm more progressive.

posted February 16, 2017 04:10 PM            

If I was to be given the description of my Sun Sign alone and was asked if I felt like I connected with it, I would probably deny it. I feel much different on the inside compared to what other people see from me. Plus, I am not emotionally detached at all; I am very sensitive. I gave a friend descriptors of both Sun in Aquarius and Sun in Cancer. He said it was half and half.

posted February 16, 2017 04:13 PM            

If you do not feel like your star sign, is it because of the Sun itself in your chart?

1) Is your Sun weak?
Is it in a weak star sign/house for Sun?

2) Is it kinda 'altered' by a conjunction?
I have Sun conjunct Neptune. That's a Piscean Capricorn Sun now.

3) Afflictions
Does it receive squares, which will weaken your Sun?

posted February 16, 2017 04:24 PM            

It has three planetary conjunctions, Uranus, Neptune and Mercury. It is tightly conjunct the IC (less than a minute) but the tightest planetary conjunction is to Neptune (4-5 degrees).

Its tighest affliction is its square to Mars, which is in Scorpio. It's a six degree square.

The final dispositor, Uranus, is conjunct the Sun and the IC in the fourth house.

With these indicators, I should feel quite Aquarian thanks to Uranus being my final dispositor, but it just doesn't resonate. Strange...

posted February 16, 2017 04:50 PM            

doesnt seem plausible that there are 12 destinctive signs, when the full sun's body falls into one then it's whole area possesses the influence of that sign.

any squares to it including chiron or small would not change that it's full area is in a sign.

posted February 16, 2017 05:18 PM            

2) Is it kinda 'altered' by a conjunction?
Yes, Sun conjunct Neptune (wide degree of 8 though). So Capricorn and Pisces, Saturn and Neptunian lol.

3) Afflictions
Does it receive squares, which will weaken your Sun?
Yes. Sun square Ascendant (wide degree of 7), Sun square Chiron (2 degrees), Sun square North Node (6 degrees widish)

4) Dispositor
Look at dispositor, its aspects and sign/house placement.
Saturn in Pisces in the 5th house, bad house for Saturn. But I have only have good Saturn aspects. Saturn sextile Sun (3 degrees), Saturn sextile Neptune (5 degrees), Saturn trine MC (wide 8 degrees)

posted February 16, 2017 05:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:

I do find that I will have a tough time keeping a conversation flowing with people if it is just small talk and if it lacks depth. I am not quick to engage with others, yet want to know everything about them without disclosing personal information of my own.

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I am the exact same way. I think is bc Saturn rules your 3H and Saturn wants to talk about serious things specially in the context of having scorpio rising which hates superficiality, further my saturn conjuncts pluto and I have saturn in scorpio. Further mercury parallels my pluto.

posted February 16, 2017 06:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
My sun is in Aquarius in the fourth house. The only debilitation factor present here is that it's in Aquarius.

It has three planetary conjunctions, Uranus, Neptune and Mercury. It is tightly conjunct the IC (less than a minute) but the tightest planetary conjunction is to Neptune (4-5 degrees).

Its tighest affliction is its square to Mars, which is in Scorpio. It's a six degree square.

The final dispositor, Uranus, is conjunct the Sun and the IC in the fourth house.

With these indicators, I should feel quite Aquarian thanks to Uranus being my final dispositor, but it just doesn't resonate. Strange...

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I think the opposite it actually makes more sense to me why you don't feel like your sign
1)So many conjunctions to Sun
2)Sun Neptune - Piscean Aquarius
Sun Uranus - ok, should make a strong Aquarian but with Sun in Detriment a strong Aquarius will be house-wise the one with Sun in fire or air house. Yours is in 4H, water house and more importantly - cardinal house (adding even more water influence to your Sun!)
4) Mars square Sun - 6 degrees square to luminary is an active square. With Mars especially, had it been trine, sextile or conjunct your Sun, it would only empower it. But square weakens it further.

posted February 16, 2017 06:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Mergoatsun:
[b]1) Is your Sun weak?
Is it in a weak star sign/house for Sun?
No, I don't believe so, my Cap Sun is in the 3rd house, the Gemini ruled house. My 3rd house is actually late Sagittarius and my 4th house is late Capricorn, but it falls in my 3rd but most of my Cap placements fall in the 4th.

2) Is it kinda 'altered' by a conjunction?
Yes, Sun conjunct Neptune (wide degree of 8 though). So Capricorn and Pisces, Saturn and Neptunian lol.

3) Afflictions
Does it receive squares, which will weaken your Sun?
Yes. Sun square Ascendant (wide degree of 7), Sun square Chiron (2 degrees), Sun square North Node (6 degrees widish)

4) Dispositor
Look at dispositor, its aspects and sign/house placement.
Saturn in Pisces in the 5th house, bad house for Saturn. But I have only have good Saturn aspects. Saturn sextile Sun (3 degrees), Saturn sextile Neptune (5 degrees), Saturn trine MC (wide 8 degrees)

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posted February 16, 2017 10:10 PM            

Haha, I may be more of a fish, maybe. I've always had a huge fascination with water and feel calm/rejuvenated anytime I'm immersed in it. I called myself a fish when I was a child and practiced holding my breath to swim for long periods underwater (I could hold my breath for 1 minute and 30 seconds, pretty impressive for a 9 year old haha).

To clarify, I feel 60/40 like a Capricorn, I used to feel way less like a Capricorn when I was younger and less mature, but work and university really "Saturned" me up haha. I'm ambitious, seen as pretty serious, melancholic, determined, dependable, loyal and a very hard worker (typical Cap traits). I haven't always had all of these traits, but I've truly grown into them. I'm a Leo moon though, so my emotions are FIERY and I am not as patient as I should be, I have my Moon opposite my Mars, so patience is not my strong suit haha.

But one thing I will never identify with is being conservative. I think you are right though, people assume conservative with boring, and even traditional. I am pretty boring, I go to school, work, and then come home. I rarely drink, and I never go to outrageous parties. I'm not sure I would say I'm traditional, but I do like traditions and roots (I'm a Cap IC). I am very progressive in my views, and sort of in my relationship. My fiance cooks and cleans way more than I do. We both work and go to school, and we don't really assume traditional gender roles, I make most of the decisions and give orders mostly. However, I still view him as the head of the house, I'm just the neck that turns the head. OH GODS, maybe I am traditional...

posted February 18, 2017 09:59 AM            

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Originally posted by colorful butterfly:
My sun is in Cancer but I've always said I feel more like a Gemini. I'm a social butterfly and defiantly not a homebody.

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Can you check these 4 things in your chart for me please?

If you do not feel like your star sign, is it because of the Sun itself in your chart?

1) Is your Sun weak?
Is it in a weak star sign/house for Sun?

2) Is it kinda 'altered' by a conjunction?
I have Sun conjunct Neptune. That's a Piscean Capricorn Sun now.

3) Afflictions
Does it receive squares, which will weaken your Sun?

posted February 18, 2017 10:28 AM            

I think Saturn is really important for us Capricorns. Really. I was thinking about other signs. If any other star signs have Saturn in 10H AND that Saturn is 'kind', meaning that it gives soft aspects to other planets in the chart and/or is in a good sign for Saturn then any star sign can feel more like a Capricorn. Ditto for other planets: Uranus, Neptune etc.

posted February 18, 2017 10:39 AM            

Just wanted to add something. It's an example of my mother's chart. She, just like you has Sun in 4H.

She is a Leo Sun, with Sun, Venus and Uranus in 4H. She doesn't feel like a Leo. Her Sun receives a square from Neptune. I thought well, her Venus is also in Leo, surely she should feel like a Leo, maybe she just doesn't understand the sign characteristics well. But if Sun is dispositor of her Venus and that Sun is afflicted with square from Neptune (blow number 1) then her Venus is not a typical Leo Venus. Her Venus also conjuncts Uranus (blow number 2) and Venus is in 4H (blow number 3).

posted February 18, 2017 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Can you check these 4 things in your chart for me please?

If you do not feel like your star sign, is it because of the Sun itself in your chart?

1) Is your Sun weak?
Is it in a weak star sign/house for Sun?
My sun is really the only water sign in my chart, except my uranus in Scorpio.

2) Is it kinda 'altered' by a conjunction?
I have Sun conjunct Neptune. That's a Piscean Capricorn Sun now.

My sun is square my moon in Libra, sextile my saturn in Virgo, and trine my uranus in Scorpio.

3) Afflictions
Does it receive squares, which will weaken your Sun? My sun squares my moon.

4) Dispositor
This was the answer for me personally. I'm not ambitious AT ALL because the dispositor of my Sun, which is Saturn has squares to 3 planets in my chart. I don't know about you guys, but the first thing I learnt in astrology after my star sign description was that Saturn is 'my' planet, because it rules the sign of Capricorn. So if Saturn in my chart was strong, then this would directly have an impact on my Sun. So look at dispositor, its aspects and sign/house placement as well.

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