posted June 20, 2017 03:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Lerena:
When the 7th house is empty, look at the ruler of the sign on the 7th house cusp. For example, if the 7th house cusp is Sagittarius, look at Jupiter for more information.

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hmm... So lets see if I'm doing this right in the following steps:

1)7th House is empty, its a cancer/leo cusp.
2)Whats the ruling planet for Cancer the moon.
3) I look at my moon, I find moon square mars. I guess that explains it.

posted June 20, 2017 03:56 AM            

You just made this curious Mercury dominant Gemini his day. For years I couldn't understand a certain Leo female's love style the above formula just answered it.

Also shoutout to girlwiththerainsoul she highlighted my moon-mars square as the problem for me. I didn't know how she figure that one out.

posted June 20, 2017 02:40 PM            

Gemini ruling empty 7H imho could be
worse, I'm looking at it as an optimist.
After saying all that - even a loner with
an empty 7H can be a married/involved
individual. The rest of your chart
might better exhibit how you might
incorporate such a connection.

Updated -

posted June 21, 2017 12:47 AM            

I have Taurus in my 7H and my IC conjunct Juno in my 4H I also have moon square mars.

Im nearly 40 and have never had a relationship where I've been in love with the person or any kind of committed relationship. I cant see the point of having a long term relationship if I cant see forever with them.

posted June 22, 2017 05:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yes to all the above.

An empty 7th suggests that the 7th house issues are not of importance to the native.

The ruler of the 7th position is where the attention of the 7th issues will go.

Ruler of 7th in 3rd may suggest going into business with the siblings.

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posted June 22, 2017 07:29 AM            

This does not mean that the issues of that house are altogether "irrelevant".But there is usually so much time spent on those that have planets therein, that not enough time/energy is invested in the empty ones

So the position of the cusp ruler of the empty house should be noted as this will mean that as part and parcel of the expression of the energies in that house, will be include therein the themes of the empty one.

Look at the ruler of the 7th house. Where is it located?

If the ruler of the 7th is in the 8th, intimacy(one theme) is highlighted and wanting a deep bond with someone. So a marriage(7th) may serve the means to that end.

It may suggest that you marry less for happily ever after. But more for dealing with the undercurrent /pyschological implications of what love/commitment is etc.

Naturally then, you won't care too much if you have a wedding or ceremony. Such superficial pomp/publicity you can do without.

But you will care a great deal if your partner connects with you,is into you,your sex life, their ability to share their whole self with you etc.

This is differing from someone who has the ruler of the 5th in the 7th. With a planet there(especially if Venus,Sun,Moon or Saturn), the pomp/ceremony of the wedding matters a great deal.

This person cares about the publicity and status of being married and may even sacrifice intimacy /closeness for the image/status of being "married" (this especially when Cap is involved)

In the latter instance, dating(5th) is a means to an end i.e marriage(7th). So these people date with a husband/wife as a goal in mind.

I have the ruler of my empty 10th(Saturn) in the 7th. My career success will only matter to me when it allows me the means(money)/ability to confidently marry.

The ruler of of the empty 5th(Sun) is in the 9th. Romance/dating/children only serve the means of having me broaden my mind,learn more and explore about other people.

I may live vicariously through my kids and learn more about the world through them .And on the dating front,I have to admit that I enjoyed my longest relationship with a Gemini because it allowed me so many new experiences and people that I am not sure whether i fell inlove with the Gemini . Or what the Gemini introduced me to?

posted June 22, 2017 01:00 PM            

With planets being placed there that is directly influencing you or your relationships. If there are no planets there I do not think that automatically implies no love or marriage.

Many other things have to be considered like ruler position, aspects or other/partners and how they are effecting your chart or what they are bringing in to your chart.

posted June 23, 2017 06:25 AM            

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Originally posted by violet7887:
Angular houses are important. Houses 1 and 7 especially in an interpersonal sense.

With planets being placed there that is directly influencing you or your relationships. If there are no planets there I do not think that automatically implies no love or marriage.

Many other things have to be considered like ruler position, aspects or other/partners and how they are effecting your chart or what they are bringing in to your chart.

More over, your sheer will to bring into your life anything you desire will override anything.

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posted May 25, 2021 04:13 PM            

My 5th House's ruler - Mercury (Virgo)- is in my 1st house, conjunct my Ascendant (Taurus).

My Mercury:
Semi-Sextiles my Venus (Gemini, 2nd House)
Sextiles my Mars (Cancer, 3rd House)
Sesquiquadrates both my Saturn and Neptune (Capricorn, 8th House)
Bi-Quintiles my Uranus (Capricorn, 8th House)
Squares my North Node (Aquarius, 10th House)
Conjuncts my Ascendant (Taurus, 1st House)
Trines my Midheaven (Aquarius, 10th House)

My 7th House is Scorpio, so the ruler is Pluto. However, I know is more traditional astrology, the sign of Scorpio was co-ruled by Mars and Pluto.

My Pluto is in the 6th House, in Scorpio. (Most houses in my natal chart have two signs in them - true sign of being a Gemini! lol).

My Pluto:
Inconjunct my Sun (Gemini, 1st House)
Bi-Quintiles my Moon (Gemini, 1st House)
Sesquiquadrates my Venus (Gemini, 2nd House)
Trines my Mars - wide, 9 degrees (Cancer, 3rd House)
Bi-Quintiles my Jupiter (Gemini, 1st House)
Sextiles both my Saturn and Neptune (Capricorn, 8th House)
Trines my Chiron - wide, 6 degrees (Cancer, 2nd House)
and Squares my Midheaven (Aquarius, 10th House)

If I look at Mars (for the sake of tradition), he's in his detriment in Cancer in the 3rd House.

My Mars:
Semisextiles my Moon (Gemini, 1st House)
Sextiles my Mercury (Taurus, 1st House)
Opposes my Saturn - wide, 9 degrees (Capricorn, 8th House)
Trines my Pluto - wide, 9 degrees (Scorpio, 6th House)
Bi-Quintiles my North Node (Aquarius, 10th House)
Squares my Vertex (Libra, 6th House)
Sextiles my Ceres (Taurus, 12th House)
and Sextiles my Ascendant (Taurus, 1st House)

I'll be 32 next Friday. While I have become accustomed to being alone and picture myself, easily, traveling and doing things I've always wanted to do (or accomplish) alone, I still feel the sting of loneliness. There is nothing wrong with being single - I hate the pressures and views of society of being "taboo" or "abnormal" because you're not in a relationship or unmarried. It's b.s., in my opinion. I have had one boyfriend - who dumped me to date, and marry, my ex-best friend. They now have a son. But I wasn't in love with him.

My first real love I met 5-6 years ago and thought he was my Twin Flame. His natal chart was like the flipped version of mine, but he was more Scorpionic, and I got caught up in that, more than anything else. (His Ascendant, Jupiter, Pluto, and North Node all conjunct each other, in Scorpio - yikes!). That kind of love was real - at least for me - and was a psychological revolution. His 8th House is in Gemini, so all of my 1st, and 2nd, House Gemini planets fell in there and we bonded so quickly and intimately! But due to his Venus being in my 12th House (Aries), it was a secret love on my part.

Long story short: he was NOT my TF and he not only broke my heart, but he also broke my faith in intimacy, relationships, and real love.

It also doesn't help that I don't have much of a social life, or finances, to support going out and "mingling." I just started grad school and am in the middle of transitioning into a career that can help me support myself and the life I want. Due to my Gemini stellium and Taurus influences, I definitely come across as more rough around the edges, more intellect/masculine based. So perhaps having children is a subconscious dream that will not be realized in this life time (Ceres - Taurus, 12th House). *shrugs*

At this point in my life, I don't have the time, resources, or energy to have, and maintain, a super-emotional connection with someone. Plus, I have trust and abandonment issues that I need to work on. But, I would like it if I was able to have a relationship, once I was well-established, and not be alone for the rest of my days.

posted June 03, 2021 04:45 AM            

I've been single for a dozen years. But I do long for that ideal love. I feel more alive when I get in a relationship, but then BUM the eternal wound opens. I don't know, maybe it's just because we are not destined for each other with these people.

I definitely can't go for flings lightheartedly. My Venus (7H ruler) is in Capricorn in 2nd house widely square Pluto (6* orb) and in mutual reception with Saturn in Libra. It is also conjunct Eros with 2* orb and Valentine with 4* orb. Although the conjunction with Valentine is wide, I do think it explains my idealism. I am not at all pragmatic or materialistic like Capricorn. Maybe Valentine plays a role since its square to Pluto is exact, and Pluto is my chart ruler. Or maybe it's Venus-Neptune parallel.

I kind of lost hope for relationships. Maybe it's also Juno-Lilith conjunction in Scorpio in the 12th house.

posted June 04, 2021 10:43 PM            

I updated my original response. I wanted to add this too. It might be more helpful.

I have (7th house) Desc Gemini. I paired up in my youth with a guy (15-22 years old) that turned into my childhood sweetheart. We were engaged - he is a Gemini Asc. Like we were made for each other. My rising, is his asc. I knew at 11 too. Didn't last for reasons I won't add. Let's say we failed some tests.

I dated so many options but none felt right. I feel the Gemini energy had to be specific in my case. I ended up Marrying my best friend. We were in our 30s. A mirror couple, same Desc/7th and rising. So odd how both men at some point I was good friends as well. Both are Sun Cancer too. But that has less to do with the desc.

Gem Sun men and I never jelled, the couple I knew. My Mercury is in 2nd - I value the desc of my wheel.

posted June 04, 2021 11:06 PM            

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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:

I know someone with an Empty 7H, he's into his second marriage.

I have Taurus in my 7H and my IC conjunct Juno in my 4H I also have moon square mars.
you can say there's a definitive answer.

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I think between your Venus related energy you might look at your 2nd house (linked to 8th). So many speak of it as just materialism. It is Earthly values. Arms come with a body to the other piece of your puzzle. Also your quote up there ⬆️ my husband is married to his 2nd wife too (20+years). Empty 7th for him like me AND his first wife was a Gemini Sun.

posted June 05, 2021 01:20 PM            

Added - OH my that Aqua energy! I have a heavy amount too but yours is perfect for a musician to really concentrate on their art. I noticed your Chiron in your 10th
- trine your desc. That could mean someone you may meet benefits (in healing way) publicly with you. I think a partner or fan in your music, if you are out with your music. In a professional or huge hobby way. Like me, you could take longer. I met my spouse about a year later than where you are now. We were friends for another 2+ and at my 31st we got hitched. If that's your thing but you might land in something any day now and if you find someone you ,"feel" a magical connection with, it will grow as far as you too want it to.

posted June 05, 2021 11:48 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
I have (7th house) Desc Gemini. I paired up in my youth with a guy (15-22 years old) that turned into my childhood sweetheart. We were engaged - he is a Gemini Asc. Like we were made for each other. My rising, is his asc. I knew at 11 too. Didn't last for reasons I won't add. Let's say we failed some tests.

I dated so many options but none felt right. I feel the Gemini energy had to be specific in my case. I ended up Marrying my best friend. We were in our 30s. A mirror couple, same Desc/7th and rising. So odd how both men at some point I was good friends as well. Both are Sun Cancer too. But that has less to do with the desc.

Gem Sun men and I never jelled, the couple I knew. My Mercury is in 2nd - I value the desc of my wheel.

I'd say if it's a relationship that's lasting, look at the desc and it's ruler to better see which

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Hi MoonMystic

I'm also a Gemini rising dating a Gemini DSC and it just feels so right... I didn't feel this way with my 1st bf who has Sag Sun conjunct my DSC. I also don't feel attracted to Aries where my DSC ruler is.

posted June 05, 2021 11:50 PM            

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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
What would you expect from someone's love life with an empty 7th house?

1) Single forever
2) Marries several times
Or
3) Makes no difference as it depends on others parts of the chart?

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posted June 06, 2021 04:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Hi MoonMystic

I'm also a Gemini rising dating a Gemini DSC and it just feels so right... I didn't feel this way with my 1st bf who has Sag Sun conjunct my DSC. I also don't feel attracted to Aries where my DSC ruler is.

I'm curious why it didn't work out with your ex? Were there other planets that were aspecting the ASC-DSC axis making the connection not so nice? I asked because I also have my Moon/Venus/Neptune on his ASC-DSC axis which is extra sweet but my Mars is also squaring his ASC and his Mercury squaring my ASC. 😣 Not sure if that'll ruin it.

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