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alludeu
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posted May 29, 2017 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
**I don't know if this should be in interpersonal astrology or not** **also just needed to vent**

Recently I broke up with my boyfriend after a while of feeling like something was off. He ended up telling me that 2 days after we broke up he slept with his ex (the one he basically tried to rebound me to get over her) and now they're together again. He also said to me that he's still in love with her and will never stop loving her (was in love with her the whole we were together).
I was so furious. We were sitting in his car down by a river when he told me and his ex kept calling him while we were there and he actually had the audacity to answer his phone to her! He got out of the car and was on the phone to her a few mins smiling and laughing and i was just thinking "who tf do you think you are???"

The reason why I feel so betrayed is because one day (around 3 weeks prior to our break up) i wanted to break up with him again BECAUSE:
We had been arguing the whole day that day, by night he was so stressed that he went to THE SAME EX to talk to her and "calm down". I remember that night when he called me (while he was with her) he said that he was just with a "friend" (so i assumed one of his guy friends). When his ex dropped him home he called me again and told me that he was with her. I walked all the way (nearly an hour) to his house at midnight and even by the time i got there i dont think i had burnt off all the anger & frustration in me. I broke up with him that night, the following morning we talked about things and got back together. He reassured me that he was completely over her and was totally in love with me and only me & i believed him (**never forget actions speak louder than words**).

Anyways I basically just wanted to know how people with strong scorpio experienced being cheated on. I have mars in scorpio in the 8th house

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posted May 29, 2017 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. Hugs to you.

I dont have Mars in 8th but have Pluto in the 7th. Your feelings of anger-especially when you mentioned the long walk at midnight-resonates with me.

When frustrated, reasoning capabilities patter out-leading to impulsive behaviour that may even put us at risk.

This tunnel vision focus is not advisable-especially when it puts your life in such jeopardy. Feelings can be irrational i know, but lets keep ourselves safe and not become a statistic of love gone wrong!

What aspects does your Moon/Venus make? Your approach seems very Pluto-Moon, Pluto-Venus,Pluto-Mars imo.

There is no way to avoid the pain unfortunately. But it does get better when you talk it out. Seek the comfort of friends and talk it out.

You being here actually is a way of dealing. It does get better when you seek counsel and talk about your feelings.

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posted May 29, 2017 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh, cheaters are the worst. Esp those who lie about cheating on you with their exes. Been there done that.

I know it hurts right now. And it will hurt for awhile. But there will come a day when it doesn't hurt that much and you're able to look back and realize you're happier without him in your life.

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posted May 29, 2017 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars in Scorpio parallel Pluto.

Knowing me, the minute he got out of the car to answer the phone, I would deck him in the face, grab the phone and yell, "Hey, he's been cheating on you with me! Have fun with that!" Hang up and walk off. I would be livid.

I take my relationships very seriously and can easily feel betrayed with these sorts of actions. I would probably cut him off completely the second time he did it, honestly because I would be so angry and done with him at that point. To me I would just feel used like a tool and I would feel like there was no point to it after all, something that I often feel. Lying to me about it all would just upset me even more.

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posted May 29, 2017 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Knowing me, the minute he got out of the car to answer the phone, I would deck him in the face, grab the phone and yell, "Hey, he's been cheating on you with me! Have fun with that!" Hang up and walk off. I would be livid.


lol.

I was the polite version of you.

In my case, I asked him to give me his phone (with a little fight) I took his phone and re-called his ex gf. I talked with his ex gf with a loud speaker so he could hear her answer while I was asking several questions and finally telling the truth of what was going on in several months.

The most dramatic moment in my life but at the same time the most relieved time because the three of us knew the truth who was lying, who was the Regina George, and who was the victim.

Venus trine Pluto.

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posted May 30, 2017 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Wow. Hugs to you.

I dont have Mars in 8th but have Pluto in the 7th. Your feelings of anger-especially when you mentioned the long walk at midnight-resonates with me.

When frustrated, reasoning capabilities patter out-leading to impulsive behaviour that may even put us at risk.

This tunnel vision focus is not advisable-especially when it puts your life in such jeopardy. Feelings can be irrational i know, but lets keep ourselves safe and not become a statistic of love gone wrong!

What aspects does your Moon/Venus make? Your approach seems very Pluto-Moon, Pluto-Venus,Pluto-Mars imo.

There is no way to avoid the pain unfortunately. But it does get better when you talk it out. Seek the comfort of friends and talk it out.

You being here actually is a way of dealing. It does get better when you seek counsel and talk about your feelings.


Yes I've been needing to vent a lot! Like every time I get on the subject of him with my friends I end up venting a lot about it. My moon is in aquarius conjunct neptune exact, i have venus in leo (though my moon and venus arent really in aspect - too far apart degrees). Tbh the most anger I expressed in person ever to him was when he dropped me off after that meeting and when I got out of the car he offered me his drink and i was like "I don't want it." (in a not happy voice) and slammed the car door.
Then I used my virgo sun to later psychoanalyse him and send him long ass messages telling him why he was so wrong and **** ..

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posted May 30, 2017 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
Ugh, cheaters are the worst. Esp those who lie about cheating on you with their exes. Been there done that.

I know it hurts right now. And it will hurt for awhile. But there will come a day when it doesn't hurt that much and you're able to look back and realize you're happier without him in your life.


Thanks for the support xx everyone keeps saying he'll probably feel like he messed up bad at some point and come crawling back (with their knowledge of the rest of the situation..).

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posted May 30, 2017 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I have Mars in Scorpio parallel Pluto.

Knowing me, the minute he got out of the car to answer the phone, I would deck him in the face, grab the phone and yell, "Hey, he's been cheating on you with me! Have fun with that!" Hang up and walk off. I would be livid.

I take my relationships very seriously and can easily feel betrayed with these sorts of actions. I would probably cut him off completely the second time he did it, honestly because I would be so angry and done with him at that point. To me I would just feel used like a tool and I would feel like there was no point to it after all, something that I often feel. Lying to me about it all would just upset me even more.


OMG I was LIVID! I wonder why I never exploded though..

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posted May 30, 2017 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tbh, everyone
I have been using that scorpio mars revenge trait. Literally my mind has thought up some wild revenge (none of which i have acted on though).

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posted May 30, 2017 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Scorpio Moon/Asc/Uranus.

I am very vengeful when I get broken hearted. I hate it when the ******* have to call the cops on me, but oh well, serves them right!

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posted May 30, 2017 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my ruler of 7 is pluto-mars (scorpio in 7th) pluto in 5th and mars conjunct 3r cusp. i need to vent with the culprit and express my anger to him... all this anger needs to be either used for something productive (like doing the house, organize your closet, apply for that job,)

on the other hand, i would not mind to give the ex the version of the facts. most likely he has lied to her about you as well..

he seemed to be the type of person that is in on and off in love and recycle exes. i do not think he is in love with her, but now she is the new fad. at some point he will want you back again... anyway.. a despicable man...

i would give the girl my version.. maybe through a facebook email or an email when you CC him so he can know that he is all exposed...

cheaters need to be exposed! that is the best revenge!

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posted May 30, 2017 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by alludeu:
Yes I've been needing to vent a lot! Like every time I get on the subject of him with my friends I end up venting a lot about it. My moon is in aquarius conjunct neptune exact, i have venus in leo (though my moon and venus arent really in aspect - too far apart degrees). Tbh the most anger I expressed in person ever to him was when he dropped me off after that meeting and when I got out of the car he offered me his drink and i was like "I don't want it." (in a not happy voice) and slammed the car door.
Then I used my virgo sun to later psychoanalyse him and send him long ass messages telling him why he was so wrong and **** ..

You sure? No parallel/contra parallel aspects worth a mention. Moon/Neptune is passive ime. If there is aggression, its passive and/or self inflicted i.e what did i do? stance.

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posted May 30, 2017 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
my ruler of 7 is pluto-mars (scorpio in 7th) pluto in 5th and mars conjunct 3r cusp. i need to vent with the culprit and express my anger to him... all this anger needs to be either used for something productive (like doing the house, organize your closet, apply for that job,)

on the other hand, i would not mind to give the ex the version of the facts. most likely he has lied to her about you as well..

he seemed to be the type of person that is in on and off in love and recycle exes. i do not think he is in love with her, but now she is the new fad. at some point he will want you back again... anyway.. a despicable man...

i would give the girl my version.. maybe through a facebook email or an email when you CC him so he can know that he is all exposed...

cheaters need to be exposed! that is the best revenge!


No she knew me about me all along. They also work together. The only reason she decided to get back together with him was because she knew he was getting with me. She led him on for so long and only decided to get with him when me and him started talking :/
Theyve known each other for at least 2 years.. tbh im convinced he was only infatuated with me

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posted May 30, 2017 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
You sure? No parallel/contra parallel aspects worth a mention. Moon/Neptune is passive ime. If there is aggression, its passive and/or self inflicted i.e what did i do? stance.

How do you know if you have a parallel/contra parallel aspect?

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posted May 30, 2017 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On astro.com, go to where u get your normal circular chart. Then click on "click here to show chart"

Just above the circular chart on your left, there is " Additional table (PDF) " option-amongst others.. Click on that. On your far right are your planetary positions and their respective declinations.

Hope thats clear.

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posted May 30, 2017 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I still don't understand what parallels are but thats the table i got^

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posted May 30, 2017 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you should visit Kannons website for details as I am terrible at explaining.

But suffice it to say that Parallels are synonymous to conjunctions and Contra-parallel then are like oppositions.

You have Sun contra-parallel Pluto. This is the strong passion that I suspected.(the orb is less than 1 degree orb)

Add to that Venus square Mars which is immediate reaction to relationship threat/disagreements. Open arguments and expression of feelings.

Mercury/Uranus contra parallel(less than 1degree orb). Hot tongue and a tendency to speaking what's on your mind. Things u say are sudden and can be shocking!

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posted May 30, 2017 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, tbh, he'll probably cheat on her one day too. So it's better he goes with someone else and does that to them then doing it again to you.

I dated a guy for a year and a half after college. His ex gf from college moved into town and they moved into together. He never let me come over if she was there and never introduced us. He broke up with me on my birthday because he realized he still loved her when he told her he was seeing someone (me). So he ended it with me. He tried getting back me with a few months later, I snooped around his room when he left and found a card from her to him, which he kept, and it said "thank you for the romantic dinner last night. I love you". It was dated back to a week after he broke up with me.

He was seeing another girl as well, which I found about because we ended up being in the same class in grad school together. He asked me if he could have one of my older text books for his (guy) friend taking a class. He ended up giving it to her. He only invited her to his apartment when his ex/roomie was out of town as well.

My friend told me that he ended up cheating on the girl who was his ex, after getting back together with her. And I was also told that the girl who is now his wife keeps him on lockdown and he's barely able to leave the house. Maybe she knows of his cheating ways 😂

Additionally, I've been on the other end of the spectrum. I was dating a man who I thought was single. Only to have his wife call me because she found the phone records. She was actually super nice about it, which is mind boggling. But she said this wasn't the first time he's done it. She was the breadwinner, she bought their house, and she was a really sweet person. But she kept staying with him because she loved him and believed he could change.

Sorry to give my lengthy story, but I wanted to show you that people cheat for their own stupid reasons. It has nothing to do with you. And they'll keep wrecking all their relationships because they're never internally happy. You don't want to spend forever with someone who will do that to you. You're much better off being happy - without him.

I have a lot of Plutonian energy in my chart and when I end things, I end them. There's no going back. I go from my sweet Pisces self to "you are dead to me".

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posted May 30, 2017 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex cheated on me a lot and I didn't mind it. Lol
Its not because of self esteem issues I may or may not have. Its because what I valued was our time together not what sex he had with who that day. And knowing he spent more time with me meant I had him to myself mostly to adore and enjoy.

Im asexual, naturally, so sex isn't of importance to me. In other words, if he needed the sex, its best he got it because I wouldn't want to be giving it to him...

Theres two types of astrology.
In the one Im Sun Mercury Venus Virgo
in the other im Sun Mercury Venus Libra

A mars libra or a mars scorpio

I think that Virgo is a sex repulsed sign, being ruled by the virgin. Being undemonstrative etc.
But I also think Libra isn't Scorpio, which is the sign of sex and ultimate intimacy... ruled by the 8th house, so my natural astrology is beyond me!

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posted May 30, 2017 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
Well, tbh, he'll probably cheat on her one day too. So it's better he goes with someone else and does that to them then doing it again to you.

I dated a guy for a year and a half after college. His ex gf from college moved into town and they moved into together. He never let me come over if she was there and never introduced us. He broke up with me on my birthday because he realized he still loved her when he told her he was seeing someone (me). So he ended it with me. He tried getting back me with a few months later, I snooped around his room when he left and found a card from her to him, which he kept, and it said "thank you for the romantic dinner last night. I love you". It was dated back to a week after he broke up with me.

He was seeing another girl as well, which I found about because we ended up being in the same class in grad school together. He asked me if he could have one of my older text books for his (guy) friend taking a class. He ended up giving it to her. He only invited her to his apartment when his ex/roomie was out of town as well.

My friend told me that he ended up cheating on the girl who was his ex, after getting back together with her. And I was also told that the girl who is now his wife keeps him on lockdown and he's barely able to leave the house. Maybe she knows of his cheating ways 😂

Additionally, I've been on the other end of the spectrum. I was dating a man who I thought was single. Only to have his wife call me because she found the phone records. She was actually super nice about it, which is mind boggling. But she said this wasn't the first time he's done it. She was the breadwinner, she bought their house, and she was a really sweet person. But she kept staying with him because she loved him and believed he could change.

Sorry to give my lengthy story, but I wanted to show you that people cheat for their own stupid reasons. It has nothing to do with you. And they'll keep wrecking all their relationships because they're never internally happy. You don't want to spend forever with someone who will do that to you. You're much better off being happy - without him.

I have a lot of Plutonian energy in my chart and when I end things, I end them. There's no going back. I go from my sweet Pisces self to "you are dead to me".


Thank you for sharing. He had venus and mars in cancer so i know there was some depth of feeling from him toward me, but what you say about the internal happiness is very true.

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posted May 30, 2017 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I think you should visit Kannons website for details as I am terrible at explaining.

But suffice it to say that Parallels are synonymous to conjunctions and Contra-parallel then are like oppositions.

You have Sun contra-parallel Pluto. This is the strong passion that I suspected.(the orb is less than 1 degree orb)

Add to that Venus square Mars which is immediate reaction to relationship threat/disagreements. Open arguments and expression of feelings.

Mercury/Uranus contra parallel(less than 1degree orb). Hot tongue and a tendency to speaking what's on your mind. Things u say are sudden and can be shocking!


Thank you soo much, yas i love this all your aspect analysis are so spot on omg

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posted May 30, 2017 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wouldn't everyone be livid in a situation like that though? That is the expected response really, its major disrespect.

Maybe you were in so much shock you couldn't react or let yourself explode, like the shock kept you in this "am I dreaming this?" "did he really just pick up the phone to talk with her and is he really acting like if nothing, completely disregarding my feelings and the fact we have been dating for months?"

I bet you were in shock so didn't react.

I once caught a guy I was dating sleeping with another girl and I remember finding it amusing, was not bothered by it and then left and told him that it didn't hurt me which was true it didn't, I never talked to him ever again though. I always thought I would react livid in a situation like that but I never felt in more control in my life. I guess Scorpio can be like that too, the opposite of livid and maintain complete control and composure in a situation most would lose it. Scorpio rising with pluto conjunct saturn in the 12th house.

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posted May 31, 2017 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucky he's not in front of me or I would pierce him with a pitchfork in both eyes. C**t.
This makes me so angry.
He will cheat on her one day and every other one after her until he dies a very lonely old man.

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posted May 31, 2017 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
Lucky he's not in front of me or I would pierce him with a pitchfork in both eyes. C**t.
This makes me so angry.
He will cheat on her one day and every other one after her until he dies a very lonely old man.

Hes honestly a fool for her, i dont think he could ever cheat on her.

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posted May 31, 2017 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex husband has mars in Scorpio and this sounds like him. If you two broke up , then he probably considered you two not together anymore and so he felt it was 1. Probably the best way to make you hurt as he feels, even if the break up was his fault. ( I don't get the logic but ok) 2. He probably said the same things when ya'll got together, to hurt her. 3. These guys feel the need to get even because mars ( the planet of sex and war ) is in Scorpio. They'll transform you alright.

My ex did the same things when we broke up and I left him, he supposedly went back to his ex that he had before me( 5 years down the road) . I left him and this was just not executable in his eyes, even though he lied to me all the time, found out she had came back into town before I had left and he was in the neighborhood that she lived in ( blah blah blah) Anyway, I just left him. I couldn't take it anymore, he lied about everything small or large.
This chick supposedly threw a steak knife at him so apparently he valued that vs a girl who worked am to pm , 7 days a week to make sure her family had everything because he wasn't going to do it. Matter of fact, he'd take out a loan or something, lie about it and take the day off instead. SMH!!!

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