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Topic: Anybody else struggling with Neptune?
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9thScorpio Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 30, 2017 07:44 AM
The title is pretty self explanatory but I would like to know if some of you have Neptune problems? Or if you have crazy good Neptune and you two work well? Or maybe even an unaspected Neptune?Mine is 12th house and it is a pain the a. It does not help it conjuncts my Ascendant either because I've noticed this manic pixie dream girl effect and guys see me as this otherworldly creature but we are all just humans. And no matter how honest I am about my personality, all of them beg to differ. When I was a kid, I was so sensitive. I wanted to save the world and carry other people's pains. I cried about anything and anyone. I had this thing where I saved snails from the road. I still have that habit to this day. My love for animals is endless. The worst part is, all those compassionate parts of me show. Everything shows in my eyes. And I can't really hide my tears. It also trines my Sun so my whole identity has a touch of Neptune. Not as radical as conjunction but it shows. My closest aspect is Neptune Quintile Moon and that was was felt so much during my childhood. I try to suppress it, but from time to time it bites me in the a**hole. Next is Mars opposite Neptune and honestly I feel so lost inside my own head, inside my self with this huge daydreams but not knowing what to do with them or where to go. Neptune semi-square Saturn, my chart ruler. Neptune in Capricorn, Saturn in Pisces. Neptune conjunct Uranus. Neptune trine South Node. Neptune trine Chrion. That one something else because my compassionate nature comes out even with enemies. And honestly, I'm not really forgive and forget kind of person, I'm holding to my grudges like there is no tomorrow (working on this one I promise) but if someone who did me wrong or hurt me was broken and crying, I would hold him or her in my arms and stroke his hair and just be there. That's kinda stupid if you ask me. Neptune Bi-Quintile Vertex. Neptune trine Black Moon Lilith. Neptune sextile Midheaven. Neptune trine Nadir. Now, this one from my own experience is amazing. I loved writing and making up stories in my head and I used to tell them to my family so they all helped my creative development as a child. Also, I feel this one is inherited from my mother because she was good with words too. Now, Uranus makes all the same aspects in my chart as Neptune but I don't struggle that much with Uranian energies as I do with Neptunian ones. Not saying it's great because Uranus opposition Mars gets out of hand at times but mostly I manage just fine with it. ------------------ Sun in Virgo Moon in Scorpio Venus in Scorpio Jupiter in Scorpio Pluto in Scorpio MC in Scorpio NN in Scorpio ASC in Capricorn IP: Logged |
alludeu Knowflake Posts: 323 From: Australia Registered: Aug 2016
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posted May 30, 2017 09:02 AM
I have neptune conjunct my moon exact, i feel things so intensely and am really sensitive to what's going on around me. If i hear a sad song, i feel it immediately and get sad and cry ( i have moon in aquarius so i hateee crying in front of people but with neptune there i cant help it sometimes -.- i am a maladaptive daydreamer also, this is the only strong neptune aspect i have (excessive daydreaming) its in my 10th house.IP: Logged |
9thScorpio Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 30, 2017 09:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by alludeu: I have neptune conjunct my moon exact, i feel things so intensely and am really sensitive to what's going on around me. If i hear a sad song, i feel it immediately and get sad and cry ( i have moon in aquarius so i hateee crying in front of people but with neptune there i cant help it sometimes -.- i am a maladaptive daydreamer also, this is the only strong neptune aspect i have (excessive daydreaming) its in my 10th house.
From what I understand Neptune/Moon is sensitive placement and if underdeveloped can cause issues. But imagination is wild. Head in the clouds type of people. And with conjunction being the strongest aspect it can get out of hand. And in a public house for people to see. *sends you hug* The thing I've noticed with Neptune, it's not for this world. What Neptune wants is not what society in general wants. Spirituality looses to money and greed. So it can be overwhelming and the world sees a fool. Maybe the biggest frustrations come form this because Neptunians are perceived as weak fools hence the escapism tendencies? I'm so confused when it comes down to Neptune. ------------------ Sun in Virgo Moon in Scorpio Venus in Scorpio Jupiter in Scorpio Pluto in Scorpio MC in Scorpio NN in Scorpio ASC in Capricorn IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 8523 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 30, 2017 11:08 AM
Neptune sits on my Sun and Jupiter by conjunction.And it also forms parrallel aspects to Merc,Jupiter,Uranus and the Mc.The only real enthusiasm i feel most times is if I am indulging in some form of escapism i.e art,photography, spirituality and "other worldly" ideas. I am growing more and more into a recluse in my head. I just want to smoke weed and chill. Have enough to pay for bills/food and all that and just drift along life. Its weird because when younger, I wanted more. But since realising just how much i have to give up to get it, how money rules EVERYTHING. I have become disheartened and disillusioned. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 8523 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 30, 2017 12:42 PM
I also wanted to add that beyond creative/humanity centred endeavors, Neptune is seldom satisfied. It dissolves anything/everything that has ego centredness therein.IP: Logged |
polkadotstars Knowflake Posts: 1365 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 30, 2017 01:28 PM
I have Pisces sun and moon conjunct. It's hard at times. Sometimes I care too much about others. Sometimes I can get really sad about world events. I hate it because I can easily put myself in others shoes. It's like second nature to me, so when I see someone in pain, it is like I am too. But as sensitive as I am, I can also be practical in emotional situations if I need to. I can be a brick wall if I have to be, void or any emotions, all blacked out. Maybe that's my heavy Plutonian aspects that show. I guess with me it's either all sensitivity or absolute void. My sensitivity wins 99% of the time. I would be absolutely miserable without having a creative outlet. I have a 9-5 job but I started a part time pet photography business as well. It combines my love for art and animals. I also paint and draw. I listen to music and write when I need to express my emotions. Walking on nature trails with my dog is a huge mood booster for me. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 2549 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted May 30, 2017 02:20 PM
if you have a strong neptune, you have no choice but to choose a daily dose of escapism through healthy addiction (art, spirituality, etc)otherwise it's really hard to handle all that compassion keeping minimal contact with other people may also help a lot I don't recommend isolating yourself, but the more you interact with people, the more you're prone to making their problems your own; there's only so little pain a single human soul can handle, and it won't be good for your psychological and physical health to get too much involved with all that is wrong and unjust, from world issues to people or animals..some of these issues are just to be there and accepted, and some of them are way bigger in your head than they actually are perhaps working in an artistic job and dedicating some of your time to a charitable activity might soothe you
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Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 4656 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 30, 2017 02:36 PM
I have a number of natal Neptune aspects, including opposite Venus/Mars, (wide opp Mercury), semi-sextile Jupiter, Quintile Asc, and I have learned to deal with it pretty well over the decades. Neptune's position 21° South in your chart is in probable parallel Asc in late Capricorn. Such an aspect to your Asc could be why you struggle with it more than Uranus. It is certainly a better explanation for struggles with it than the Quintile. Quintiles are subtle and harmonious aspects. Moon Quintile Neptune is a wonderful aspect. I know you see it as symbolizing strong emotional sensitivity, but it is only an enhancement of that and represents creative potential and intuition. There are other explanations for your broad, open sensitivity, which I describe below. quote:
Neptune trine Nadir. Now, this one from my own experience is amazing. I loved writing and making up stories in my head and I used to tell them to my family so they all helped my creative development as a child. Also, I feel this one is inherited from my mother because she was good with words too.
This aspect is an opposition to the MC, and can indicate vocation/career. That is where to start with channeling your imagination. Trust me, you don't want to leave that behind. Your expansive emotional nature is indicated by Venus parallel Moon parallel Jupiter (14-15° South, unless I have miscalculated your planet positions based on what you've listed). That dynamic is distinct from Neptune, which is more as you describe above, in imagination. ------------------ The Declinations Guy Expert Rectification Rising Sign Descriptions ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓ IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 4656 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 30, 2017 02:41 PM
Here is an older thread I started that talks a bit about Neptune in transits. Maybe you'll find some principles of use with natal aspects. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/237561.html ------------------ The Declinations Guy Expert Rectification Rising Sign Descriptions ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓ IP: Logged |
9thScorpio Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 30, 2017 04:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Neptune sits on my Sun and Jupiter by conjunction.And it also forms parrallel aspects to Merc,Jupiter,Uranus and the Mc.The only real enthusiasm i feel most times is if I am indulging in some form of escapism i.e art,photography, spirituality and "other worldly" ideas. I am growing more and more into a recluse in my head. I just want to smoke weed and chill. Have enough to pay for bills/food and all that and just drift along life. Its weird because when younger, I wanted more. But since realising just how much i have to give up to get it, how money rules EVERYTHING. I have become disheartened and disillusioned.
That last paragraph about money sounds really familiar. Then reality kicks in and as much as I want everything to be sunshine and love and smiles, our society is more about well, your life is pretty much worthless if you don't own expensive stuff. Huge part of me knows it's not important, life is not about money and then realistic side reminds me I need to pay for my college/food/electricity/water/pretty much the whole existence. But in terms of money, it was always just a paper to me. And it will always be a paper to me. Nothing valuable in the end. But I do like your approach towards life if it means anything
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9thScorpio Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 30, 2017 04:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by polkadotstars: I have Pisces sun and moon conjunct. It's hard at times. Sometimes I care too much about others. Sometimes I can get really sad about world events. I hate it because I can easily put myself in others shoes. It's like second nature to me, so when I see someone in pain, it is like I am too. But as sensitive as I am, I can also be practical in emotional situations if I need to. I can be a brick wall if I have to be, void or any emotions, all blacked out. Maybe that's my heavy Plutonian aspects that show. I guess with me it's either all sensitivity or absolute void. My sensitivity wins 99% of the time. I would be absolutely miserable without having a creative outlet. I have a 9-5 job but I started a part time pet photography business as well. It combines my love for art and animals. I also paint and draw. I listen to music and write when I need to express my emotions. Walking on nature trails with my dog is a huge mood booster for me.
Are you by any chance empath? The other two Pisces I am close to are my mom and my friend. Both of them are Scorp Moons/Ascendants so maybe my opinion is not so valid on this subject but what I've noticed about Pisces, sure, the dream like quality and escapism tendencies do happen but when things need to be looked at objectively, Pisces are pretty good at that.
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9thScorpio Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 30, 2017 04:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul: if you have a strong neptune, you have no choice but to choose a daily dose of escapism through healthy addiction (art, spirituality, etc)otherwise it's really hard to handle all that compassion keeping minimal contact with other people may also help a lot I don't recommend isolating yourself, but the more you interact with people, the more you're prone to making their problems your own; there's only so little pain a single human soul can handle, and it won't be good for your psychological and physical health to get too much involved with all that is wrong and unjust, from world issues to people or animals..some of these issues are just to be there and accepted, and some of them are way bigger in your head than they actually are perhaps working in an artistic job and dedicating some of your time to a charitable activity might soothe you
I do need alone time quite a lot and sometimes I don't want to talk to anyone and just be left alone. Addictions wise, can say I'm pretty a okay because never tried hard drugs, never been interested. My only vices are coffee and cigarettes. Not healthy in the long run but I plan to ditch it. In terms of my spirituality, I'm guilty of suppressing it just to fit in but I'm going back now and it feels like coming home. Volunteering is something I think about a lot.
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9thScorpio Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted May 30, 2017 04:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: I have a number of natal Neptune aspects, including opposite Venus/Mars, (wide opp Mercury), semi-sextile Jupiter, Quintile Asc, and I have learned to deal with it pretty well over the decades. Neptune's position 21° South in your chart is in probable parallel Asc in late Capricorn. Such an aspect to your Asc could be why you struggle with it more than Uranus. It is certainly a better explanation for struggles with it than the Quintile. Quintiles are subtle and harmonious aspects. Moon Quintile Neptune is a wonderful aspect. I know you see it as symbolizing strong emotional sensitivity, but it is only an enhancement of that and represents creative potential and intuition. There are other explanations for your broad, open sensitivity, which I describe below. This aspect is an opposition to the MC, and can indicate vocation/career. That is where to start with channeling your imagination. Trust me, you don't want to leave that behind. Your expansive emotional nature is indicated by Venus parallel Moon parallel Jupiter (14-15° South, unless I have miscalculated your planet positions based on what you've listed). That dynamic is distinct from Neptune, which is more as you describe above, in imagination.
Was it a struggle if you don't mind me asking? If you don't want to answer, I understand. Yeah, both are late 20° degrees so 21 is correct. All correct parallels wise. All south Will check out your board and thank you so much!
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Beautiful_Light Moderator Posts: 858 From: Atlantis Registered: Nov 2016
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posted May 30, 2017 07:17 PM
The best thing you can do with Neptune is to make it your friend. Sleep. Spend time outside. Find creative outlets for yourself. Journal, write down your dreams and goals.For myself I've got Moon conj Neptune this Solar Return and I've been doing more of all of the above. Natally I've got Neptune conj North Node and Sun trine Neptune in my 9th harmonic. IP: Logged |
9thScorpio Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted June 01, 2017 08:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by Beautiful_Light: The best thing you can do with Neptune is to make it your friend. Sleep. Spend time outside. Find creative outlets for yourself. Journal, write down your dreams and goals.For myself I've got Moon conj Neptune this Solar Return and I've been doing more of all of the above. Natally I've got Neptune conj North Node and Sun trine Neptune in my 9th harmonic.
I love sleeping to be honest And being outside or being in or around water nourishes my soul. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 8523 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 01, 2017 08:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by 9thScorpio: That last paragraph about money sounds really familiar. Then reality kicks in and as much as I want everything to be sunshine and love and smiles, our society is more about well, your life is pretty much worthless if you don't own expensive stuff. Huge part of me knows it's not important, life is not about money and then realistic side reminds me I need to pay for my college/food/electricity/water/pretty much the whole existence. But in terms of money, it was always just a paper to me. And it will always be a paper to me. Nothing valuable in the end. But I do like your approach towards life if it means anything
Thank you. I try to do the "responsible" thing and be strong and all that. But i read somewhere that strong Neptune influenced people cannot be "on" 24/7. That these guys tend to have their own clock set and live life from a "feeling" perspective. As if they want to collaborate with the forces of the Universe. So their approach to life may not always be understood and can be labeled "lazy" or "wasteful" i.e. "Get a job" "Get married" "Get your life in order" "Get some ambition" "Get going" etc. I agree with sleep. I sleep a lot. Watch ocean documentaries i.e sea life etc. I also read fantasy books with elves,witches, warlocks and lost worlds a lot. Neptune may not make u "normal". But it can make u special. You will always be a mystery with this planet. Any Neptune people attracting Pluto types in their life? I run away from them. They terrify me lol. IP: Logged |
9thScorpio Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted June 02, 2017 09:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Thank you. I try to do the "responsible" thing and be strong and all that. But i read somewhere that strong Neptune influenced people cannot be "on" 24/7. That these guys tend to have their own clock set and live life from a "feeling" perspective. As if they want to collaborate with the forces of the Universe. So their approach to life may not always be understood and can be labeled "lazy" or "wasteful" i.e. "Get a job" "Get married" "Get your life in order" "Get some ambition" "Get going" etc. I agree with sleep. I sleep a lot. Watch ocean documentaries i.e sea life etc. I also read fantasy books with elves,witches, warlocks and lost worlds a lot. Neptune may not make u "normal". But it can make u special. You will always be a mystery with this planet. Any Neptune people attracting Pluto types in their life? I run away from them. They terrify me lol.
Yet again, agree with everything you said! The whole ''get this and get that'' thing also sounds very very true. I respect marriage but it was never a priority to tell you the truth. And as much as I love children I'm not sure I would be great mother. And I don't want to scar my child or children. Also, throwing people under the bus for career or power, 0/10. It's more important what is inside that outside. I guess you bring out all the Neptune in me In terms of Plutonians, my chart goes there too with Pluto conjunct MC at 6° degrees so it is seen. Also, a lot of Scorpio. Maybe even 8th house stellium if you count Chrion. Objectively speaking, unevolved Plutonians scare the crap out of me. Their whole approach is plain nasty and negative, just searching for any kind of weakness just to humiliate and tear down. Huge, unhealthy egos too. No compassion. Just rotten and unhealthy emotions. On the other hand, the evolved ones can offer support and understanding and their everything comes from pure, profound place. Pluto energies can be tricky in terms of seeing red and overreacting and harsh words can be thrown around like it's nothing. But then again, it's always easier to bury your head in the sand, thinking you can do nothing wrong or your feces don't stink. I won't lie, there were times when I was so wrong, so hurt and I reacted in a band manner. I acknowledge that and I'm trying to grow and evolve. At the end of the day, not everything is about me. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 8523 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 02, 2017 12:20 PM
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posted June 02, 2017 01:16 PM
Neptune and Uranus are my two most disliked planets right now. I have bones to pick with both.... we're talking about Neptune now.I have Venus in Pisces square to Neptune/Jupiter in Saggy. My moon loosely trines Neptune. Nappy is one huge headache...... the influence is like really being on drugs. My love life is a series of abusive horror stories and I wish I could get rid of being unconditional..... want to get rid of the cross that I have been put on..... I am blessed with four planets in earth and loaded earth houses. I love Saturn immensely. Pluto too. Any grounding and eradicating any messes in my life cause by Nappy is great...... But maybe Nappy is why I am a great photographer and that I can see things others cant..... IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 1107 From: USA Today Registered: Aug 2015
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posted June 02, 2017 04:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sagical: Neptune and Uranus are my two most disliked planets right now. I have bones to pick with both.... we're talking about Neptune now.
I feel that, I have a complicated relationship with both planets. Uranus actually scares me the most because of the erraticness and the changes it represents (not fun for someone who craves stability). However, Neptune is the one planet I can easily say I personally am not the biggest fan of. Neptune does a lot in my chart, but it is conjunct my Sun and square my Ascendant, which makes me a confusing person to get to know. Not only that, but in synastry everyone in my generation has Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn which usually conjuncts my Sun (which makes for a pain in the butt relationship). Neptune has always frustrated me, I hate the confusion, and all the illusions it creates. I want reality, and the stone cold truth. However, one should embrace the duality of the good and the bad (it's hard for me, but I'm learning). Neptune makes for a dreamy, mystical, and spiritual influence, which if Neptune is addressed properly, can feel pretty euphoric. If you have anymore advice for dealing with Neptune I'm definitely listening, but for me, it helps to just enjoy the duality of it. To know that the nature of Neptune is an ebb and flow. The good and the bad come and go. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 4656 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 02, 2017 07:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by 9thScorpio: Was it a struggle if you don't mind me asking? If you don't want to answer, I understand.
Honestly, the biggest Neptunian struggles for me came when I was still involved with religion. The prophecies, demonology, insecurity, self-doubt. I left it when I became an adult. Since then I can get clarity when I need it. Although in the early-mid 2000s Neptune transited square my Sun, then Saturn. That was a rough period that seemed to bring the self-doubt back in a whole new way. I agree with Beautiful_Light. I think making the Neptunian energies your friend is the way to go. I learned how to make doubt my friend by 'talking' to it in poetry. Still do it. I find it easier -- way easier -- to work through self-doubt when I can write it out honestly. It's more for me, not necessarily something that makes it to an open mic, but here lately I've even braved that I also maintain some kind of believing spiritual practice that can change from time to time. Any sort of deep relaxation or meditation that gives a hypnotic effect. Even Cannabis (weed) is useful this way if you are unable to meditate on your own. (Of course, there are other herbs that can allow a restful, tranquil mind.) Aries23Degrees was right on the money -- whatever it takes to keep imagination alive in the lush and delicious sense. Keeping a fantasy life that engenders creative-mindedness. Water: ocean documentaries, an audio of ocean waves or rain for sleeping. I especially like this: quote:
Neptune may not make u "normal". But it can make u special.
Don't ever lose that sensitivity. See it as a special power most people don't have (or are afraid to own). ------------------ The Declinations Guy Expert Rectification Rising Sign Descriptions ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓ IP: Logged |
Beautiful_Light Moderator Posts: 858 From: Atlantis Registered: Nov 2016
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posted June 03, 2017 12:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: That these guys tend to have their own clock set and live life from a "feeling" perspective. As if they want to collaborate with the forces of the Universe. So their approach to life may not always be understood and can be labeled "lazy" or "wasteful" i.e. "Get a job" "Get married" "Get your life in order" "Get some ambition" "Get going" etc.
Wow this makes so much sense now! I've always lived life by my heart, or by "feeling". Those are things my parents are always saying to me . Guess they're not very Neptunian. IP: Logged |
9thScorpio Knowflake Posts: 154 From: Registered: May 2017
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posted June 03, 2017 10:18 AM
Also, just realized transit Neptune squares my natal Neptune. That's a fun one!IP: Logged |
saadsarah8 Knowflake Posts: 213 From: Ottawa, Canada Registered: Jan 2014
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alludeu Knowflake Posts: 323 From: Australia Registered: Aug 2016
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posted June 05, 2017 01:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by 9thScorpio: From what I understand Neptune/Moon is sensitive placement and if underdeveloped can cause issues. But imagination is wild. Head in the clouds type of people. And with conjunction being the strongest aspect it can get out of hand. And in a public house for people to see. *sends you hug*The thing I've noticed with Neptune, it's not for this world. What Neptune wants is not what society in general wants. Spirituality looses to money and greed. So it can be overwhelming and the world sees a fool. Maybe the biggest frustrations come form this because Neptunians are perceived as weak fools hence the escapism tendencies? I'm so confused when it comes down to Neptune.
Thanks for the hugs lmao it's so ironic that people get confused my neptune because neptune is kind of the planet of confusion 😂 IP: Logged | |