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bananaz
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posted June 01, 2017 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hopefully this thread hasn't already been done.

If you don't know already, there's a HUGE/ RARE conjunction happening in 2020 between Pluto, Saturn and Jupiter, which begins to form as early as late 2019.

Please share with me your predictions. I'd love to get different opinions.

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posted June 01, 2017 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would also like to know more about this. 🤔

My natal Saturn is at 22° Capricorn so when the Saturn - Pluto conjunction happens in January 2020 both planets will be right on my natal Saturn, plus it will be my 1st Saturn return at the same time! 😯

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posted June 01, 2017 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, it is an important part of the Saturn-Pluto cycle.

I covered this at my blog in a 3-part series. It is an historic power/economic reset the effects of which will not be fully appreciated for a long time. Similar to when Martin Luther's protest of papal power, and the politcal/finanial battles that set up the American (and French) Revolution.

My article was slanted towards taking control of their own finances to hold investment value and ride out turbulence. This is the first time Saturn and Pluto will have gotten together in Capricorn (with Nodes) since banking has been electronically linked globally.

http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/2017/03/05/global-power-astrological-cycles-part-1/

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posted June 02, 2017 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm interested in this as well. It will be happening in my second house.

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posted June 02, 2017 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Yes, it is an important part of the Saturn-Pluto cycle.

I covered this at my blog in a 3-part series. It is an historic power/economic reset the effects of which will not be fully appreciated for a long time. Similar to when Martin Luther's protest of papal power, and the politcal/finanial battles that set up the American (and French) Revolution.

My article was slanted towards taking control of their own finances to hold investment value and ride out turbulence. This is the first time Saturn and Pluto will have gotten together in Capricorn (with Nodes) since banking has been electronically linked globally.

[URL=http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/2017/03/05/global-power-astrological-cycles-part-1/]http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/2017/03/05/global-power-astrological-cycles-part-1/[/UR L]


Holy bejeezus Kannon. I read your Urgent Financial Warning and I've been having the same suspicions. Okay tell me what you think of this:
I see it starting with the culmination of Uranus opposite Jupiter, the crisis becoming pronounced by late 2019. I feel like this is how Pluto's energy shifts into Aquarius, because we are going to have to change the way we work together as groups/communities.
Worst fear: the dollar collapses.
On the bright side, I suspect the Fed Reserve is coming to an end.

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posted June 02, 2017 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by diamondbaby:
I would also like to know more about this. 🤔

My natal Saturn is at 22° Capricorn so when the Saturn - Pluto conjunction happens in January 2020 both planets will be right on my natal Saturn, plus it will be my 1st Saturn return at the same time! 😯


You will definitely be impacted. Which house is it in for you?

For me it's my 10th :/ I have neptune, but at 5 degrees.

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posted June 02, 2017 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a great heads up. Might be interesting to build up a picture of how it will affect different house placements and aspects.

Worryingly, this all kicks off in my 12th house, trine natal saturn (please let this be a good thing). And it squares my natal pluto. This sounds like a heavy period ahead for sure.

At the same time, uranus is retrograding back over my natal sun. (Which by extension means it's square my natal moon, too)

On top of this, in the composite with (currently) my closest friend, the south node is at 21'54 Capricorn. Conjunct Mercury at 23.

I'm not one for looking far into the future and panicking. But this is a bit alarming. Any tips on where to begin preparing for all this?

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posted June 02, 2017 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stellia:

I'm not one for looking far into the future and panicking. But this is a bit alarming. Any tips on where to begin preparing for all this?

October of this year will be the kick off. Next May should present some serious stuff as that's when Uranus moves into Taurus. Kannon's article says to prepare now.

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posted June 02, 2017 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just read through Kannon's article! wow it's so thoroughly dissected!!

This conjunction will be on my 2nd house cusp and will trine my NN in Taurus. I know I will be in for a major financial difficulties going forward so no surprise there but I didn't realize that NN was involved! I wonder what these all mean in my natal chart...

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posted June 02, 2017 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bananaz:
October of this year will be the kick off. Next May should present some serious stuff as that's when Uranus moves into Taurus. Kannon's article says to prepare now.

Is this because of the Saturn entering Capricorn?

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posted June 02, 2017 04:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope it's not a huge stock market crash.

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posted June 02, 2017 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Saturn-Pluto conjunction will square my Mercury and make a sextile with my natal Pluto. I will also be dealing with transit Uranus conjunct my natal Venus in 2020 and Uranus is going to be making a trine to my North Node. The trine and sextile may not be felt as strongly as the conjunction or square.

People around my age are also dealing with transit Pluto to natal Uranus/Neptune right now. I have yet to figure out how this will impact me on a personal level, but these Pluto transits are mentioned primarily because with the exception of Uranus on my Venus, I have a lot of 2nd house activity going on for the next few years from these transits and the Saturn/Pluto conjunction.

After 2020, I'll also be having my 1st Saturn Return in 2021, though I read somewhere that Saturn Returns begin when Saturn returns to its natal sign.

For the most part, I'm waiting for Saturn to move into Capricorn. I need a healthy break from Saturn being in my 1st house. When Saturn does move into Capricorn, however, it will be moving into a conjunction with my North Node not long afterward.

And I have some Jupiter transits coming up starting when it gets close to my natal Pluto in Scorpio. The transits will happen during the next few years.

Along with the 6th-12th axis, I also have some 5th house transits. Basically, it looks like the next few years will be a lot of work.

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posted June 02, 2017 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bananaz:
Holy bejeezus Kannon. I read your Urgent Financial Warning and I've been having the same suspicions. Okay tell me what you think of this:
I see it starting with the culmination of Uranus opposite Jupiter, the crisis becoming pronounced by late 2019.

You may be right.

quote:

I feel like this is how Pluto's energy shifts into Aquarius, because we are going to have to change the way we work together as groups/communities.

You maybe right about that too. I agree that in the US and worldwide we will have to change how we work and do business and community.

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Worst fear: the dollar collapses.

I don't know how much loss of dollar value would mean 'collapse', but I don't see that. I just see loss of dominance for the dollar.

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On the bright side, I suspect the Fed Reserve is coming to an end.

I don't see any chance of that.

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posted June 02, 2017 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me personally the Saturn-Pluto conjunction happens in such a way that it holds timing with entirely different implications than what I've outlined in the more economically-focused mundane article. They'll make a trine to natal Pluto and Venus (in 5th house).

If I were to do it over, I'd use less emphatic language in the original warning, but the idea is the same. I do not, would not, will not trust the current financial/economic system with my hard-earned money while it begins this change. It will become a battlefield for control over things that have nothing to do with us or with supporting investments in businesses and communities.

It is my belief that any such turbulence that plays out will most affect those who have the most to lose. It could be a good time to not have much or any financial investments.

It comes down to a ball of political and economic yarn that will only be unwound looking back. I really don't know exactly what form this battle for control will take. I only know we don't want our earnings caught in the cross-fire.

You don't have to do as I would. Just inform yourself, don't assume the system will protect you as promised, and use some common sense in a peaceful frame of mind to decide what to do with your money.

The worst turbulence may be over pretty quickly, or it may all play out behind the scenes in ways that matter to governments and bankers, but not so much to the rest of us. I really hope that is how it happens, but I think it is very, very unlikely.

We're looking at a global reset of power and banking that will stir up change for the rest of our lives. The x-factor to me is how much will hacktivism and electronic sabotage play a role in this?

We will see.

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posted June 02, 2017 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ick.. 22 Cap? conjuncts my Uranus-Neptune in the 6th, squaring my moon. Though I don't have much to lose, in the material sense.

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posted June 02, 2017 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CupOfDavid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. This super conjunction will be a few degrees away from my Venus-Mercury conjunction.

What would this conjunction mean for those who have their Sun at or around 22 degrees Capricorn?

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posted June 02, 2017 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's nice, my descendant is 24 capricorn. Hopefully, I get married lol

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posted June 02, 2017 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CupOfDavid:
Interesting. This super conjunction will be a few degrees away from my Venus-Mercury conjunction.

What would this conjunction mean for those who have their Sun at or around 22 degrees Capricorn?


Expect it to be a time of real testing, a time of reshaping your identity and how you operate in the world. Saturn-Pluto require us to rely on inner power and psychological depths rather than external position or enacting controls. Saturn limits and focuses on priorities; Pluto drives for regeneration. It could be a very productive time on a personal level even if you don't seem to have much outwardly to show others for it.

However, you may find some confrontation with persons of power in your external life are unavoidable (depending on what else is involved in chart/life).

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posted June 03, 2017 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will have this in my second house trine my 10th house stellium (mars/pluto/jupiter/uranus). I kind of get the feeling that it will be a good time for money flow (?)

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posted June 03, 2017 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I don't see any chance of that.


Ah, wishful thinking I guess

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posted June 04, 2017 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Claudine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
Ick.. 22 Cap? conjuncts my Uranus-Neptune in the 6th, squaring my moon. Though I don't have much to lose, in the material sense.

Mine as well. It will sextile my Moon and trine Venus though.

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posted June 04, 2017 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CupOfDavid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Expect it to be a time of real testing, a time of reshaping your identity and how you operate in the world. Saturn-Pluto require us to rely on inner power and psychological depths rather than external position or enacting controls. Saturn limits and focuses on priorities; Pluto drives for regeneration. It could be a very productive time on a personal level even if you don't seem to have much outwardly to show others for it.

However, you may find some confrontation with persons of power in your external life are unavoidable (depending on what else is involved in chart/life).



Thanks, Kannon!

To clarify, was that for my Venus-Mercury conjunction, a Capricorn with their Sun at or around 22 degrees (I asked because that will be the case for my father), or both?

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[i]The South Node total Solar of Eclipse July 11, 1991 (18°58’ Cancer) was followed by the collapse of the Soviet Union. On December 25, 1991, Gorbachev resigned as president of the USSR, declaring the office extinct. That night, the Soviet flag was lowered for the last time over the Kremlin. By December 31, 1991, all official Soviet institutions had ceased operations and individual republics assumed the central government’s role. This gave the U.S. a de facto victory in the Cold War.

The two Metonic cycles outlined above demonstrate the striking difference between North Node and South Node eclipses. The North Node eclipses brought powerful new forces to bear, tearing open the previous status quo. The South Node eclipses brought an end to things and have marked the final stages of major hostilities. Remarkably, this is in agreement with President Obama’s plans to begin withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan. Perhaps the ending of this South Node Metonic cycle will correspond with the closing of a chapter of American history and the dawning of a new era. I’m sure many would look forward to a future where we no longer engage in controversial regional conflicts in far-flung and remote corners of the world.[i]

fond: http://mountainastrologer.com/tma/cancer-eclipse-an-old-power-withdraws

I guess the next one is happaning in two0two0

The cnj. kind of opposes the eclipse?

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posted June 06, 2017 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think for me it would bring changes in career and money although not sure if it's going to be positive.

Capricorn conjunction will be in my 6th house, sextile n. Sun, square n. Venus and trine n. Jupiter in 10th house.

Any suggestions?

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