posted March 06, 2018 11:27 AM            

I feel Leos have a tendency to not feel appreciated, it could be a Sun in Leo with Venus in Virgo thing, maybe with venus in Virgo this happens more. Like you guys shine bright but you don't feel seeing and for the women I see a tendency to have sibling rivalry and for them to feel mistreated by their siblings or excluded, targeted in some way.

Anyways I see a lot of pain regarding siblings that women with sun in leo experience, girls be kinder to your leo siblings, they really really need the love and acceptance!

posted March 06, 2018 11:56 AM            

As a Leo Ascendent, I find that such pride is a double-edged sword. I'm highly sensitised to how others evaluate me and yet I'm far too proud to reveal this sensitivity for fear of my vulnerabilities being exploited. Pride is as self-protective as it is self-indulgent.

I can confirm that sibling rivalry is thematic in the sense of being perceived as the most valued leader of a family.

posted March 06, 2018 12:17 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Nine Tests:
Appreciation is a derivative of Leo's pride.

As a Leo Ascendent, I find that such pride is a double-edged sword. I'm highly sensitised to how others evaluate me and yet I'm far too proud to reveal this sensitivity for fear of my vulnerabilities being exploited. Pride is as self-protective as it is self-indulgent.

I can confirm that sibling rivalry is thematic in the sense of being perceived as the most valued leader of a family.

As a Scorpio Sun, I've always held great rapport with Leo Suns that I've been loosely acquainted with. In group scenarios, I'll pander to the Leo's pride via praise and acknowledgement. I amplify a Leo's sense of importance, not in service to their ego, but as a remedy to how lost they can feel without sporadic validation. The Leos I've engaged with are very much aware of this unspoken but mutually understood dynamic and come to greatly appreciate my understanding and unsolicited supporting of their inner-world. This dynamic is effective without fail.

---

Yes I have venus conjunct Mars in Leo, I tend to interact with them in the same manner. It really does not come from a bad place their need for appreciation, there are genuine strong and passionate emotions behind that, they do care and need to feel valued, its not a narcissism thing, not usually anyways.

I empathize and feel their pain. Specially for the sun in leo with venus in virgo or venus in cancer.

Perhaps sun in leo with venus in leo is another story LOL, haven't met one yet so I can not say anything about that combo.

posted March 06, 2018 12:19 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Nine Tests:
Appreciation is a derivative of Leo's pride.

As a Leo Ascendent, I find that such pride is a double-edged sword. I'm highly sensitised to how others evaluate me and yet I'm far too proud to reveal this sensitivity for fear of my vulnerabilities being exploited. Pride is as self-protective as it is self-indulgent.

I can confirm that sibling rivalry is thematic in the sense of being perceived as the most valued leader of a family.

As a Scorpio Sun, I've always held great rapport with Leo Suns that I've been loosely acquainted with. In group scenarios, I'll pander to the Leo's pride via praise and acknowledgement. I amplify a Leo's sense of importance, not in service to their ego, but as a remedy to how lost they can feel without sporadic validation. The Leos I've engaged with are very much aware of this unspoken but mutually understood dynamic and come to greatly appreciate my understanding and unsolicited supporting of their inner-world. This dynamic is effective without fail.

---

posted March 06, 2018 12:20 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by SecretGeek:
That might be more of a Moon in Leo thing.

---

posted March 06, 2018 12:34 PM            

The other one I don't have her info at this point, I use to. I just remember she was a leo.

posted March 06, 2018 01:17 PM            

My mom is a Cancer sun/ Leo mix and she always claims her family mistreated her.

They could treat her a bit nicer, but its not as bad as shes advertises.

Her Leo placements probably explains why I'm her Gemini son, otherwise we would never be compatible.

As a result I encounter people with the similar chart placement as her and notice the same thing with leo/cancers.

It could just be the cancer or water aspects make them more sensitive and the leo aspects make them dramatic or push them to do things that aren't always popular with people that are close to them.

posted March 06, 2018 02:04 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by DualGemV2:

They could treat her a bit nicer, but its not as bad as shes advertises.

---

hahaha

Thanks for all your input and feedback.

posted March 06, 2018 02:24 PM            

honestly I couldn't care less what others think about me...I won't even care if you are a family member or a lover...I notice that leo/aquarius people tend to live a pretty lonely life, despite what commercial astrology might say about them...yes, as a leo you'll most probably be quite popular, and many would wanna hang out with you..or as an aquarius, you might have a crazy big group of friends from all types and sorts...but neither of these guarantee deep closeness, or feeling that you are completely understood and appreciated...at some point in life you will let go of the need to be popular or famous (leo) or be accepted as part of a specific group,
finding one special place to belong to (aquarius)

my life centers around me because I unlike you see clearly that we all live in our own worlds..if you want to be a friend and share your moments with me, I'll be happy and try to show you some really fun time! but if not, that's fine, because it was about only me in the first place and will always be so

all my life, I have been following my heart and it has never failed me

I do what I want, when I want, and I know that I am the best in most things! and I don't really care if you agree or disagree, because the only thing that matters to me is that I am confident in myself and know that I am the best!

posted March 06, 2018 02:45 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by hypatia238:
hahaha

Thanks for all your input and feedback.

@SecretGeek I think I get you now, you do see sun in a Leo as a factor but you feel the moon will have to play a role too bc it rules emotions, family, roots and the home.

---

posted March 06, 2018 03:36 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by hypatia238:
[...] It really does not come from a bad place their need for appreciation, there are genuine strong and passionate emotions behind that, they do care and need to feel valued, its not a narcissism thing, not usually anyways.

---

Concurred.

quote:

---

Originally posted by hypatia238:
That pride and self protection instinct to not reveal your emotions I feel is more a sun in Scorpio thing. Leos tendency is to express sometimes without wanting to, it just happens. The will power to not show your emotions comes from Scorpio I feel, their instinct is more to hide and protect themselves.[...]

---

Indeed. I fear I've incorrectly conflated my sun sign attributes with that of my ascendant sign. Thanks for disentangling my subjective experience of myself. It certainly makes more sense that a Leo impulsively expresses emotions whereas the Scorpio constrains.

quote:

---

Originally posted by hypatia238:
[...] Scorpios's discovery chart has pluto in CANCER and Moon in Scorpio .

---

posted March 06, 2018 03:44 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by DualGemV2:
I see it a lot with Cancer/Leo mixes.
[...]
It could just be the cancer or water aspects make them more sensitive and the leo aspects make them dramatic or push them to do things that aren't always popular with people that are close to them.
[...]

---

posted March 06, 2018 04:00 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by SecretGeek:
I am not so sure a "Leo Sun" is associated with your point at all. It could be any Sun, right? I am thinking the Moon on one end, any Sun sign on the other end, and Mercury to figure the difference of feelings and self. Since you mentioned Leo, I ran with it.

---

I do feel leos have a stronger need to feel appreciated and seen (we all do but the key word is stronger) so they are more sensitive about that when that need is neglected but yes the moon can neutralize that tendency or accentuate it more so that this need is more evident or pronounced for the native or less of an issue.

posted March 06, 2018 04:06 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Nine Tests:
Indeed. I fear I've incorrectly conflated my sun sign attributes with that of my ascendant sign. Thanks for disentangling my subjective experience of myself. It certainly makes more sense that a Leo impulsively expresses emotions whereas the Scorpio constrains.

---

You sound so cool, I can tell I would enjoy having long conversations with you lol psychoanalyzing stuff hahaha

posted March 06, 2018 04:08 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Nine Tests:
The combination of pride and sensitivity can yield adversarial reactivity. My Cancer Moon and Scorpio Sun likely augments the sensitivity of my pride as a Leo Ascendant.

---

posted March 06, 2018 04:35 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Nine Tests:
The combination of pride and sensitivity can yield adversarial reactivity. My Cancer Moon and Scorpio Sun likely augments the sensitivity of my pride as a Leo Ascendant.

---

You just "hammered the nail into the wall". Best explanation in the shortest words possible.

I'm generally the stronger one whenever I encounter people with that combo.

Never quite understood how I made the other one depressed.

Thanks for the explanation.

posted March 06, 2018 04:45 PM            

She is very authentic though and quite a deeep feeler, I love that about her. She has sun conjunct moon possibly and this squares her pluto adding intensity. We have a very deep connection, we have mercury conjunct venus double whammy, we can talk forever.

But pride is not the issue in the context of her problems with her sisters, she has venus in virgo after all . I do feel her sisters truly do need to treat her better and with more respect. I don't think she is been overly sensitive, Leo does not like to be disrespected or underappreciated and she needs to set boundaries with her sisters and not put up any longer with their BS, dynamics between them truly need to change otherwise she is putting up with stuff she shouldn't and is unhealthy.

posted March 06, 2018 04:50 PM            

Moon is loose trine to Mercury and more narrow trine to Neptune. A few opposites.

posted March 06, 2018 04:55 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by SecretGeek:
You just hit a keyword: "Respected". That resonates very much. "Appreciated" doesn't do it for me.

Moon is loose trine to Mercury and more narrow trine to Neptune. A few opposites.

Siblings? I don't think that idea fits me.

---

Yes RESPECT is big for Leos, I have venus conjunct mars in Leo and Leo on my MC so I understand.

I think appreciation too but it stems from the need/expectation for respect but get it does not resonate with you.