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SleepyDiary
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posted May 09, 2018 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SleepyDiary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am talking INTENSE and kinda intimidating women here. Like those that might kill you if they can`t have you kinda types. My brother is dating a girl now and she gets on my last nerve and i also find her a bit creepy. Do these guys like extreme jealousy in a woman? He has an appetite for these types of ladies. He is also a Scorpio sun btw. What do these guys find so attractive about these types of women?

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posted May 09, 2018 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They know how to go deep into the soul.

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posted May 10, 2018 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
God nothing is sexier if you ask me.

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posted May 10, 2018 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dated a Scorpio venus... went with my moon & 7th. It was good for a while then I found out he was a massive liar. 😂

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posted May 10, 2018 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think they are in to intense woman because that is the way they are built. Just like each sign has its preferred qualities they admire

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posted May 10, 2018 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for polkadotstars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a lot of 8th house activity. I'm not sure what your definition of 'intense' is but I am attracted to people who are deep and complex. I like someone that has many layers, even some layers who others do not get to see.

I don't think I could date a Gemini or a Libra, or someone who has a lot of Air in their chart, because I feel like they lack that depth.

Now, when you say that your brother is attracted to women who have extreme jealousy, I think that's an immaturity thing. Jealousy is caused by a lack of self-confidence. I am not attracted to this, but I could see how it could tie into the Scorpio's attraction. Venus-Pluto or Scorpio Venus are known for being jealous themselves. So maybe your brother is the same way and doesn't see it as that big of an issue.

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posted May 10, 2018 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Notice the same about men with Scorpio moon.

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posted May 10, 2018 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Venus in Scorpio is in the 7th house and conjuncts Saturn. So it enjoys dignity and exaltation by house respectively. It is also in the Taurus duad.

I think you should also perhaps look at the added aspects that your brother's Venus has to another planet.

Do his Sun/Venus form a conjunction? Is Pluto involved? Is Sun/Venus in the 7th house?

What cusp is their 5th and 8th house cusp? planets there?

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posted May 10, 2018 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't consider jealous women intense; they are immature. When you are young, it is easy to confuse these two qualities. Many scorpio venus guys or guys in general will pursue very jealous women because it is initially flattering that someone is so obsessed with you. However, I don't know a single man who is happy with their jealous girlfriend/wife. They may have their own reasons why they are sticking with a jealous woman, but ultimately staying with someone doesn't automatically indicate they are happy.

To me, an intense person is someone who pursues their goals with vigor and passion. They are focused, ambitious and are not afraid to go after what they want. In contrast, a jealous person is childish, insecure and very dependent on others.

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posted May 13, 2018 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunpixie007     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you are right. the ones i know could care less if you're a good person. excuse my language but they LOVE them a bitchy type

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posted May 13, 2018 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love bitchy types too lol, Moon in 8th here, a bit of drama (Venus in 5th), a bit of intensity(Moon in 8th), that's my type!

The good girls tend to run away when I take off my glove, the bitchy type can handle me way better, and I don't really mind dealing with their bitchiness either, I find them more real than a goody-goody let's say.

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posted May 13, 2018 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpiogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if a man's Venus is in Scorpio then he will most likely be attracted to women with Scorpio qualities such as intensity, jealousy and intimidation. I think though that because Venus in Scorpio isn't the best position for Venus, a man will be more attracted to women expressing its negative qualities such as jealousy or intimidating people on purpose. If the guy works to reach Scorpio Venus' higher mode of expression he'll be able to attract women with Scorpio qualities who express at least mainly the positive qualities, such as deep love, loyalty etc.

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posted May 13, 2018 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio venus/sun guy with Girl (with some heavy scorpio influence herself, let's say Scorp-Moon/IC and jupiter, right?)

male/female

f: (honestly talking about a new potential lover who might come and live with her one day - 1st time he's confronted with losing her entirely)
m: I genuinely hope it will finally work between you both
f: how discouraging again
m: how so?
f: just discouraging / you aren't even jealous
m: didn't mean it that way..
f: ah so privately you are jealous? / but you spoke your heart?
m: IF it doesn't work out between you, I hope your other offer will still stand
f: you mean so you can live in the room I'm cleaning up now (inspired by the new guy she started working on 28 year old dust & waste), instead of him? (she lightheartedly expressed recently "if he wouldn't come, it might've been a place for you to live and start a new life")
m: yes
f: you mean that? / you didn't speak your heart-wish for that / you see, the only thing you always evoked in me is "guessing" "guessing" and "guessing"
m: you know, it feels as if I'm slowly but faster and faster heading for an explosion/unloading.. / coming to a point it can't go on like this
f: you mean relationship wise? (he has a g-f for many years but we can put her last in the row of intensity and dominance, hence a breakup isn't an obvious matter in his experience - it even seems she has given up on childbearing to stay with him, he doesn't want a child)
m: excuse me for my eternal lack of clarity.. I mean: on all levels
f: well you can help me papering my room
m: or painting / I have no experience with papering
f: ow that's so sweet you want to help in case that guy will come and live with me / but so SHI!T you genuinely HOPE it to happen for us / I don't believe in that compassion
m: the goodness in me hopes it to work out for you both, the egoist doesn't ...
f: that's false
m: it's more honest I think
f: that goodness is a religious by-product / the egoist is biology (non-believer here) / count it / ratio versus instinct / we are and'll stay animals / I long for genuineness as a beast / the rest does feel false


blalba...

So, I had this convo yesterday, literally, I just translated it..
This guy has an exact Venus/Pluto conj. in scorp too. The Sun and Venus by 9 deg off. Honestly, you can't notice a THING of it.. never ever did. It's clear he's projecting it all on me (not his girl as she lacks any water in scope too, very airy with her Aqua-Sun and Libra-Moon while him Pisces-moon and Scorp-Sun) and doing it for yearsss already. Kept thinking about me all these years but I confront him as long & time after time... he seems to like it, even said: I might learn of it all and it doesn't matter if you yell at me or whatever, I can take it all from you (ow yea I yelled too throughout the years)

it's clear he hasn't found himself yet. He's close to choosing for it now. I told him you can wait until much worse things happen (which is usually the case) unless... u can listen to your gut already.

I've Always considered him my best fit although with a lack of balls "us" is hardly a thing to accomplish. My moon conj his sun within 2. Mars-Mars Aqua conj exact.

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posted May 17, 2018 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 18, 2018 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My last lover had sun conjunct venus in scorpio, my current lover has sun conjunct venus in scorpio, I am not possessive or jealous and don't like drama. I am intense and love intensely. I have scorpio rising.

I think they like the forbidden love theme subconsciously.

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posted May 18, 2018 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I think they like the forbidden love theme subconsciously.

Agreed! They love forbidden love and intense drama. They desire transformative relationships but again I think this is subconscious.

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posted May 18, 2018 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Notice the same about men with Scorpio moon.

I will also add I noticed the same about men with moon conjunct Pluto and men with Venus conjunct Pluto in natal and even in transit. We can broaden this further to men with Venus or Moon in hard aspect to Pluto.

In all these cases, the common denominator is Pluto. That bad boy loves to color things with obsession, drama, domination, jealousy, manipulation and control. Especially for those who are immature. Those natives say they hate it, but deep down they love it.

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posted May 19, 2018 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScandinavianCrab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
I am talking INTENSE and kinda intimidating women here. Like those that might kill you if they can`t have you kinda types. My brother is dating a girl now and she gets on my last nerve and i also find her a bit creepy. Do these guys like extreme jealousy in a woman? He has an appetite for these types of ladies. He is also a Scorpio sun btw. What do these guys find so attractive about these types of women?

Sounds exactly like what a pure Scorpio Venus would prefer. Add Pluto-aspects to that and it will be a very joyful meeting

I have Pluto in close conjunction with my ascendant and i've met my fair share of plutonian women.
My Moon and Venus is in Gemini though and i know now certainly that those relationships will never result in any good things... I just cant live up to all the expectations.. My plutonian ascendant is like real false advertising for them and i have learned to keep my distance, for everyones wellbeing and happiness.

Still it would be great interesting to meet a Gemini woman with her moon around 18 degrees scorpio (trine my sun).

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posted May 19, 2018 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
Agreed! They love forbidden love and intense drama. They desire transformative relationships but again I think this is subconscious.

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posted May 19, 2018 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
I am talking INTENSE and kinda intimidating women here. Like those that might kill you if they can`t have you kinda types. My brother is dating a girl now and she gets on my last nerve and i also find her a bit creepy. Do these guys like extreme jealousy in a woman? He has an appetite for these types of ladies. He is also a Scorpio sun btw. What do these guys find so attractive about these types of women?

(73) Klytia

Jealousy (especially acts driven by jealousy that end poorly), a tattle-tale, a gossip. Desperate, senseless romances. Being in love but being ignored.

Klytia was in love with Apollo (or Helios, the Sun God), but he had another lover. Dejected, Klytia told Apollo’s potential father-in-law, who killed his own daughter as a punishment for her actions. With Apollo’s love gone, Klytia hope’s to be snatched up by her paramour – but he once again ignores her, and she withers away on a rock, staring at him until she dies.

Check that asteroid in her chart. If she is the jealous type I am curious to see if is positioned strongly on her chart.

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posted May 19, 2018 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
My plutonian ascendant is like real false advertising for them and i have learned to keep my distance, for everyones wellbeing and happiness.

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posted May 19, 2018 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReachingForTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astra:
I don't consider jealous women intense; they are immature. When you are young, it is easy to confuse these two qualities. Many scorpio venus guys or guys in general will pursue very jealous women because it is initially flattering that someone is so obsessed with you. However, I don't know a single man who is happy with their jealous girlfriend/wife. They may have their own reasons why they are sticking with a jealous woman, but ultimately staying with someone doesn't automatically indicate they are happy.

To me, an intense person is someone who pursues their goals with vigor and passion. They are focused, ambitious and are not afraid to go after what they want. In contrast, a jealous person is childish, insecure and very dependent on others.


Agreed! 👍🏻

My husband is a Scorpio Venus and even after 17 years of marriage, he still hasn’t made that distinction. He is a jealous person that is extremely satisfied by conjuring jealousy in others.

I’ve been told I’m intense. Ever watch Gone Girl? He says I’m probably more capable and even scarier than the female lead in that movie. I was mortified when he told me that. Who marries someone like that?

I jokingly told him once I was gonna become a madam and open a brothel. He said I’d probably be good at that because I’d make the girls feel emotionally dependent on me and they’d probably do anything I say!

Again, who marries someone like that?

And wait, is that the way he feels? Emotionally dependent on me!? Weak!

Before knowing about astrology, I used to think my husband would be more satisfied with someone who’d flirt with other guys or engage in clandestine affairs in order to provoke jealousy only to drop the 3rd party and reaffirm her undying love for him. That is not me.

Sometimes, I think staying married to him robs him of being with someone who is the type of female described by the OP. I say robbed because I think those experiences could give him the perspective he needs to know the difference between false intensity and personal power and the real thing. I feel like the only adult in my relationship.

The immature thing is all about power, manipulation and mind games. Testing. Taunting. Probing.

I think the only thing that keeps him wanting me is the notion that I’m unattainable. That may sound strange since we’ve been married for 17 years, but he hasn’t been able to emotionally manipulate me into becoming a jealous basket case. It’s the personal power that I’m good at retaining and maintaining that drives him insane! 😏

He cannot control me, and he’s never going to have me!
(And I mean that in a scorpion surrender kinda way) I’m capable of surrendering but it’s not to any ordinary fool!

Wow! I am definitely some kinda crazy! 😂

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posted May 19, 2018 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astra:
I don't consider jealous women intense; they are immature. When you are young, it is easy to confuse these two qualities. Many scorpio venus guys or guys in general will pursue very jealous women because it is initially flattering that someone is so obsessed with you. However, I don't know a single man who is happy with their jealous girlfriend/wife. They may have their own reasons why they are sticking with a jealous woman, but ultimately staying with someone doesn't automatically indicate they are happy.

To me, an intense person is someone who pursues their goals with vigor and passion. They are focused, ambitious and are not afraid to go after what they want. In contrast, a jealous person is childish, insecure and very dependent on others.


Very well put!

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posted May 19, 2018 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReachingForTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
Still it would be great interesting to meet a Gemini woman with her moon around 18 degrees scorpio (trine my sun).

I think I may know such a woman! Lemme go double check... her moon is in Scorpio or cancer. I think it’s Scorpio. 😉

To be continued...

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posted May 19, 2018 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I asked my current guy (sun conjunct venus in scorpio) what he likes about me bc my god he is not very expressive and I want to know where he is at...I said describe what you like about me in one word.

He is the opposite of my last guy who had sun conjunct venus in scorpio, he was very expressive, I knew what he felt even though he said he is not usually expressive and tends to be very reserved but for some reason with me was very open.

Anyhoo he actually described what he likes about me in two words instead of one.

1. Glorious 2. Addictive

The last guy expressed a similar sentiment of finding me addictive.

They are different, the last guy wanted to completely surrender to me and felt he had no choice over that and this guy wants ME to completely surrender to him LOL, we shall see, IDK...I think he wants me to surrender without him surrendering to me LOL and I don't know how to surrender if the other doesn't surrender to me too so I think we have problem!. He says he wants my mind/body/spirit but I don't think he plans to surrender to me although who knows...

So venus in scorpio likes to find the person they are interested in "addictive" and they are obessessed with surrender/submission which I feel essentially is about exploring the POWER of Love and Erotic Love to its fullest potential whether they submit/surrender themselves like my ex lover or the other does it or BOTH.

My chart ruler pluto in libra thinks BOTH should surrender so I am having difficulty with this concept of me surrendering only LOL, I don't think libra will let me do it alone.

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