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cultstatus
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posted May 23, 2018 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am utterly exhausting myself with repetitive thoughts, imaginary scenarios etc. I'm starting to cause real anxiety symptoms (grinding of teeth, clenching jaw and tension headaches)

What kind of transits would indicate such a heightened level of mental activity? It kind of began at the beginning of the week and has intensified since then.

Currently mercury and the sun are transiting my third house. Transiting mercury is making a wide opposition to natal pluto. Transiting pluto squaring natal moon?

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Somna7H
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posted May 23, 2018 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Born Obsessed Thinker.
Pluto(Libra 6th)Square with both Sun and Mercury.
Have Mercury and Sun conjunction in Cancer and its near my 3rd Cusp.
http://imgur.com/Tgw6POI

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cultstatus
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posted May 23, 2018 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have pluto square mercury natally which makes me obsessive in general, but this is way more intensified than usual.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted May 23, 2018 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got very obsessive when trans Pluto was conjunct my Mercury. I think I was on here a whole lot.

I did some voice recordings and scribbled some notes on my sketch pad to try and ease the out of control thinking I was doing.

You can't get rid of it though. Its a matter of focusing where you feel it will be most productive and holding it there.

Is your Moon in 3rd or ruled by Mercury? The Moon is the emotional mind. How close is the aspect?


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waxlobster
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posted May 23, 2018 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury-Pluto conjunctions (and oppositions) are tough. I know lots of people with them, as they are interesting, insightful and intelligent usually but they frequently suffer with excessive thought, worry and mental stress. I know they usually find it difficult to stop thinking.

Mercury-Saturn are often strategic thinkers but frequently laiden with self-doubt too. Of course their self-discrimination helps to refine their expertise over time, but they struggle with self image quite often and can be very critical of those who don't meet their standards.

On the contrary, you may expect Mercury-Chiron to be critical, but not so. They simply are shy in the way they come across, are very sensitive to others' thoughts and lack confidence in assertion. I've not met one who externalises the vulnerability.

Sorry cultstatus, you're asking about transits, but these set ups will figure. Also look at transits involving these planets overall, is there anything going on with Chiron in your chart? What rules your 3rd house?

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arcturus90
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posted May 23, 2018 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Transiting Pluton sextile Mercury or well aspecting Mercury, but it makes have not bad obsessions.. The opposition or makes should make bad obsessions

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Kannon McAfee
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posted May 23, 2018 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto, but with the intensity and teeth grinding starting up recently there may be a quicker moving factor like Saturn or Mars that has come into play. So you are right to note the transit of Mercury opposite natal Pluto, but that is not deep enough and by itself too transient.

However, in looking up your chart here on LL, I see Pluto 21CAP03 in retrograde motion has gone back into square to your natal Moon 18LIB50. In addition, Pluto [21S33] is within ten minutes arc of exact parallel to your natal Saturn [21S23]. A challenging combination.

I would recommend looking into the flower essence White Chestnut or similar ones as described here: http://www.bachcentre.com/centre/remedies.htm


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Plut0nian2
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posted May 23, 2018 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to this post I realised that my mental obsession with someone is not just because of transit Pluto conjucting my North Node in 7th H.. but it's also opposing my natal Mercury!!
It drives me crazy. It's so creepy and not normal at all! I also feel very empty (I don't know if it has to do with transit Pluto opposing Mercury though or transit Pluto being in 7th H)

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cultstatus
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posted May 24, 2018 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok guys: Here is my chart with current transits.

It's been so bad all day, the anxiety that I just can't even pin point the cause of.

Also the upcoming full moon with be exactly conjunct saturn which I could see contributing, but now? This early?

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cultstatus
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posted May 24, 2018 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Omg Kannon THANK YOU for your insight!

I knew the moon would be involved in this somehow.

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EmGem
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posted May 24, 2018 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to chime in and say things will get better! I had obsessive repetitive thoughts for a few years after my dad died and Iím pretty sure some heavy transit wouldíve been involved. I was only just able to keep my head above water. I tried a slapping a rubber band against my skin to stop them. Didnít work. The only things that worked was neurofeedback, meditation and eating animal protein again after being vegan for me. NF seriously was the best thing I did and coupled with psychotherapy it helped me overcome my fear (obsessive thoughts of death). It was like a veil had been lifted.
Just hang in there

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Aries23Degrees
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posted May 24, 2018 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hear what has been said about the Pluto /Moon sqaure.

But I am zooming in on the 4th house cusp ruler (Merc) and its conjunction with the Sun natally in Uranus ruled Aqua.

Mars is currently transiting that spot.That would give that place a lot of energy. And add on the chaotic Uranus in square aspect to Sun/Merc. Nervous wreck!

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waxlobster
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posted May 24, 2018 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me to EmGem,

I struggled to feel grounded or 'safe' when my Dad died too. I suppose looking back it was anxiety.

Pluto was opposite my Saturn-Moon at the time, which rule my IC and MC respectively. So we are linking back to Pluto-Moon again.

As Kannon mentions, Pluto is coming back to square your Moon there Cultstatus and as it will be exact again in September, you are still in the middle of this Pluto square Moon event I'm afraid.

I would agree with the suggestion of White Chestnut and also Cherry Plum for when things seem too 'out of control' and Rock Water to help 'let go'.

Meditation too. Letting go is always the key with Pluto but far easier to say that I know...
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Melinn
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posted May 24, 2018 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Thanks to this post I realised that my mental obsession with someone is not just because of transit Pluto conjucting my North Node in 7th H.. but it's also opposing my natal Mercury!!
It drives me crazy. It's so creepy and not normal at all! I also feel very empty (I don't know if it has to do with transit Pluto opposing Mercury though or transit Pluto being in 7th H)

I have mercury opposite pluto in scorpio natally. Obsessive thinking about someone I'm infatuated with is my normal everyday life . The last one I still have I had for more then 1 year now! I'm so exhausted! And I have loosen all my interest in my hobbies. He is constantly there. Every hours of my awake time he is constantly there in my mind. I can't stand it anymore!

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Desiring Shadows
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posted May 27, 2018 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I donít really have the Astro science to back it up but sometimes I can get obsessive mentally with topics and go on and on and on. It isnít fun or pretty itís actually annoying. I mean Iíd like to be more versatile. But nope. lol

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posted May 27, 2018 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Melinn:
I have mercury opposite pluto in scorpio natally. Obsessive thinking about someone I'm infatuated with is my normal everyday life . The last one I still have I had for more then 1 year now! I'm so exhausted! And I have loosen all my interest in my hobbies. He is constantly there. Every hours of my awake time he is constantly there in my mind. I can't stand it anymore!


You know I have Pluto square Venus, Mars, Jupiter, trine AsC. I always have this problem too when I like someone generally but this tome I feel very stupid because I don't know that person almost at all. I can swear he is a my soulmate this creepy feeling like I already love him and I don't have a clue wtf I feel like that. My brain usually keeps everything under control no matter how intense feelings I have but this time it doesn't work at all. I wish that it will go away when transit Pluto moves away.

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Somna7H
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posted May 27, 2018 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Somna7H:
I'm a Born Obsessed Thinker.
Pluto(Libra 6th)Square with both Sun and Mercury.
Have Mercury and Sun conjunction in Cancer and its near my 3rd Cusp.
http://imgur.com/Tgw6POI

Forget to mention that current Transiting Pluto opposite of my natal Mercury and Sun.Also Neptune making Trine with my natal Mercury. So my mind is busy with Neptunian Dreams ?

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hypatia238
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posted May 27, 2018 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Transits involving quintiles perhaps as quintiles resonate with mercury.

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cultstatus
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posted May 28, 2018 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
Transits involving quintiles perhaps as quintiles resonate with mercury.

Can you please explain this comment?

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hypatia238
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posted May 28, 2018 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cultstatus:
Can you please explain this comment?

Quintiles are aspects that are 72 degrees apart, you would have to count it manually to detect the transits.

If you tell me the exact degrees of your mercury placement I can tell you if there are any quintile transits aspecting your mercury.

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