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angel4845
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posted June 03, 2018 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I CREATED A THREAD FOR US AND ANYONE WHO WANTS TO DISCUSS URANIAN RELATIONSHIP TYPE PEOPLE.

thank you so much for your opinion on this natal placement!! and i understand and i actually agree with you when it comes to signs being weak, i strongly believe aspects are way stronger but just my opinion but signs do also play a role but aspects kick the butt out of it (literally). and don't worry about you not being a pro at this!!

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posted June 04, 2018 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I got Leo 4th and we are very close... hmm
Also Iím a Libra sun and I donít cry 😂😂 itís really hard for me to.. so maybe thatís a Libra thing

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posted June 04, 2018 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey angel! I just saw your post.
I am going to paste my last reply from the previous thread below:


You're welcome angel,†
I see why you can't post his natal chart.
If I have it right (I chose random city of birth based on what you said) then his 7th h is empty and same goes for his 8th H.†
In this case the sign and its ruler play an important role since the houses are empty.

8th H cusp in Aqua too, so ruler is Uranus in 4th, Aqua is as detached as it can get so in the 8th H which is the house of depth Aqua doesn't work well.

Lets say his 8th H cusp is in Pisces just in case. Pisces is an emotional sign so it's good in there, wants to blend with other completely mau be taken advantage of in the 8th H sharimg part but it's still better than Aqua.

The problem is that Neptune is in his 5th H..†
All of his love houses are problematic..†
He may be atracted to Neptunian women.. the problem here is that after the 5th H phase ends he will be disappointed.. Neptune is idealistic like Uranus, he may see women like he wants them to be instead of what they really are, or he might have high standars.

Not only that, but Neptune is in square with his Moon, natural ruler of the 4th H.†
His Moon being in Virgo the opposite of Pisces..†
He must idealise both love and family in a romantic way not thinking about it from a practical view point which is Saturn's job.. Neptune is far away from reality.†
He might have been in love with being in love and with having a family.†
He might also be confused about his own emotions.

In my case with Neptune in 7th H I thought of relationships being something magical, you fall in love with someone and that's the end.. everything would be beautiful.. Until transit Pluto conjucted my 7th H cusp and I finally woke up from that dream.

It's like you always see the bright side and even that you fantasize it as a much better version of what it actually is in reality..

He has air Sun, Mercury and Mars..†
Air is not emotional and needs mental stimulation like Uranus.. Mars in Gemini is getting bored quickly and wants variety.†
Venus in Leo is nice, the way he shows his love is warm and emthusiastic in a Leo way. His ASC in Leo too.. So he might seem really "warmer" and more serious (Satunr in 1st) than he actually is.

Another thing that makes all those Uranian placements even more difficult is the North Node in 4th H.

The Neptune aspect and placement he has are not easy, they bring disappointment, delusion, confusion amd all that Neptunian stuff but it wouldn't be enough by itself.. In fact Neptune makes the native endure longer than it should in a relationship most of the times. And I definately find it less problematic in the 5th H than in 7th H.

His empty Aqua 7th H and its ruler Uranus in 4th H are enough to explain the situation with his first family and the one he created himself AND his problematic relationships.

Since Moon is 4th H natural ruler and it's in square with Neptune I suspect that he doesn't take care of his kid 24/7.. If he had to take care of his kid by himself he would show his Uranian side once more..†
Uranus gets attached to someone when that someone is away for the most part (distant relationships) or is independent.†
Neptune helps in that too.

Yes you're right, he may feel like he doesn't know how to harmonize the unconvetional things he needs because the Saturn-Uranus square but I think Neptune square Moon plays it's role in this too.

Indeed Uranian people most of the time do not understand their need for freedom until it's too late I was one of those and I didn't even understand that I was detached. I thought I was shy and that I need more time which is true but the need to run away everytime someone I was in love with was coming closer to me didn't seem normal at some point.

When Neptune works with Uranus definately the native doesn't understand his Uranian needs because Neptune idealises things and fantasizes them in a very romantic way.. That is why the person is confused (Neptune)..
But Neptune is in love with the ideal version he has in his head which most of the times can not even be possible for that thing to exist. Uranus is idealist too and gets easily enthusiastic..

The chart of that man is not an emotional one nor an earthy one. He is heavy in air mental stimulation and easily bored but he doesn't get it because he idealizes things.

I am sorry for my English I am not a native English speaker and also sorry for the typos ( I am using my smartphone)

EDIT: I forgot to mention that imo Uranus and Neptune don't have a reason it's just their nature.. unlike Saturn, Pluto, North Node, Chiron etc which can relate to a trauma.

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posted June 04, 2018 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you guys!


I will keep an eye on this thread too.
Cos I have 7th house issue and I'm URANIAN too.
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posted June 04, 2018 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I got Leo 4th and we are very close... hmm
Also Iím a Libra sun and I donít cry 😂😂 itís really hard for me to.. so maybe thatís a Libra thing

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posted June 04, 2018 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plut0nian,

Where should I start? you wrote a lot THANK YOU again for your response!! Ok to comment on a few things. I agree a lot on what your saying about most of what you said. The moon in Virgo thinggggg yeaaahhh square his Neptune I always wanted to blame that as the reason why he is lost with his feelings plus the 7th ruler Uranus in 4th really makes him problematic in his relationships. He is a very romantic person indeed but he doesnít like to admit heís in love with someone even though he is, i guess i wanna blame his SUN conjunct Pluto in Libra for that because I do feel (at least) in my experience PLUTONIAN MEN in relationships play mind games, fear of losing someone, assuming a tragedy, doomed failure etc! One time he told me that when his girlfriend in high school cheated on him and the whole entire school found out about it he refused to go to school and threw up for the entire day!!!! Mannnn Plutonian libran fears thatís for sure...

About the mars in Gemini thing I do want to mention that it is SQUARE his SUN/MOON midpoint as well... he does get bored easily true but heís not the type of person that cares to be romantic per se heís very asexual in a lot of ways (heís a workaholic).

I also feel this man also has an addiction or an escape....this addiction is tied to his Neptune square his moon and other asteroids (if you believe in asteroids having influence as well along with the planets).

Neptune in your 7th? Interesting you know I also have Neptune square my moon in the 7th house so I know how you feel. I feel Neptune is very much the savior type. Likes to rescue, heal etc. At least thatís how Iíve see my Neptune square my moon, I can be quite egoless with the people I date. But I also got Moon square Uranus as well! Itís not easy. Plus transit Chiron in Aries right on my descendant along with my name asteroid square my 7th ruler at the moment...it sucks.

Thank you so much for your opinion and insight you seem very knowledgeable!! if you want me to read you on a specific person in exchange let me know!!

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posted June 04, 2018 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ďSince Moon is 4th H natural ruler and it's in square with Neptune I suspect that he doesn't take care of his kid 24/7.. If he had to take care of his kid by himself he would show his Uranian side once more..
Uranus gets attached to someone when that someone is away for the most part (distant relationships) or is independent.
Neptune helps in that toĒ

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posted June 05, 2018 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plut0nian,

Just wanna let you know that Iíll be deleting my last post soon! Just bumping this thread in case you havenít seen it yet.

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posted June 05, 2018 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome angel and thanks for the exchange but I didn't do it in order to get something back. I like sharing infos/thoughts/opinions/experiemces with others, that's the best way to learn about smth.

Yes, I have Neptune and Uranus conjuct 7th H cusp both opposite my Sun in Cancer.
Sun in 12th H
Moon in Pisces

Tell me about escapist tendencies.. Music is my soul's remedy. He has Neptune in 5th H of romance, children, fun and creativity so he definately enjoys Neptunian things (escapism being one of them, I just hope he doesn't use drugs/alcohol to help him escape)
Neptune in my case makes me have high standards instead of choosing the ones who need to be saved.. I believe you can't chane anyone. I like dynamic people.
Someon told me that actually Neltune in my case is positive because 7th H is in Capricorn with Uranus in conjuction with DSC and 8th H in Aqua with Saturn in it (exact house cusp conjuction) both are cold so Neptune helps a bit in there. Maybe it's true.

Transit Chiron was too much pain for me but it was conjuct my natal Moon and it wasn't the only hard transit at that time so it could have been a mix of difficult transits.

I don't relly think Mars in Gemini makes someone asexual, he in facts makes him wanna try new things and have variety. Both 8th H aqua/pisces or Neptune/Uranus in that house couls make someone asexual or at least not much interested to sex itself (one being detached the other one being too spiritual)

A girl (I think in this forum) on a thread related to Neptune/Pisces was telling us that her boyfriend didn't want to have sex with her because he loved her while he could have it with other women before that he didn't love. I believe this can happen because I've felt it myself. Like your love feels so pure that sex degrades it in some way.

The aqua version (I have that too) is different, the native doesn't like to be touched, since I was a child I felt a bit disgusted when someone kissed me or hugged me, I felt violated, thanks to Pluto in 5th H square my Venus, Mars Jupiter and trine my ASC I can actually feel something when someone I like hugs me but because of Pluto's intensity I can get it in small doses each time with breaks in between, otherwise I feel like I am suffocating.

The thing you're talking about him not wanting to express his emotions it could be due to many things. Like his Neptune square Moon (Neptune likes to keep it secret) he may not even be 100% sure of them to begin with or his emotions may change, I mean they may not be stable.
I may be due to Mercury retrogade ir a mix of all these including Pluto conjuct Sun you mentioned.

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posted June 05, 2018 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wow, you have Neptune conjunct Uranus on the descendant opposite your sun! I completely understand this placement as I have lots of friends who have Uranus/Neptune conjunct there descendant as well. I have moon in the 7th house square 5th ruler Uranus/Neptune in the 4th house plus I have sun conjunct Uranus and Neptune in my 4th house.

To share some a story with you who has the same conjunction as you. My friend who has Uranus conjunct Neptune on descendant in Capricorn exact! she is not fond of commitment herself, she likes commitment but with distance, she is not attracted to guys who are clingy, and she likes super old and super young guys. She is very fond of unconventional standards when it comes to love life. Her 7th ruler is Saturn in Aquarius in the 8th house square venus in Taurus in the 11th.

As far as the asexuality topic, I agree that Uranus is an asexual planet but the reason why i think Gemini/mercury/Virgo is part of the asexual clan is because they represent the lower octave of Uranus. Plus I have to say i am quite asexual myself and I do think Iím similar to a mars in Gemini (but not 100% but then nothing in astrology is 100% because aspects play way bigger role in my opinion) because my mars is in the 3rd house CONJUNCT Mercury exact. My 8th ruler is mars. Gemini/mercury likes variety like Uranus and Jupiter. Gemini is the guy that enjoys talking more then sexual play. Cancer is too busy talking about there feelings/emotions. Aries gets into fights etc. Virgo is too busy taking care of other peopleís hygiene. Uranus is too busy working on making the community more innovative/progressive and such.

I know plenty of Virgo men who have lots of planets in Virgo and most of the time they all are shy/asexual/picky in bed! I also know a lot of virgos who are waiters, waitresses etc. Lol!! Ruler of service thatís for sure. Anyways thereís a lot I have to say about many aspects in Nataly charts of people Iíve examined myself throughout these past few years of my life.

A co worker of mine who is in her 50s NEVER GOT MARRIED! Also never really had serious relationships and when she did it obviously didnít work out for her because of differences. Let me tel you the aspects, sheís a Leo Rising, 7th ruler Uranus in Virgo conjunct Pluto in her 1st house. Also 5th ruler Jupiter conjunct ASCENDANT in Virgo (she loves traveling with her son!).

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posted June 05, 2018 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe I am that friend of yours and I don't know it. The onky difference is that I like men at my age (all of then are about 1,5-2,5 years older than me)

Please tell me if that friend of yours had sex and at what age. Also if you know others with 8th H Saturn (any sign but especially in Aqua) because I've known so many and not even one had sex. I am so dying to find a person with this placement who actually had sex so that I can find what could possibly cancel out (somewhat) this cursed placement.

I agree about Virgos and I find them to be the least sexy/sensual sign. I know 3 and the three of them have Sun, Mercury and Mars in Virgo. They pretend a lot too, like they pretend being sexy/cute etc.. They have a tendency to copy others generally something that my Uranus deeply dislikes, they feel so fake.

Both Virgo and Pisces like to help others. Pisces in a passive emotional way by being compassionate and understanding while helping you psychologically and emotionally. It's an impractocal kind of help while Virgo is the exact opposite offering practical help.

I know just 2 men with Mars in Gemini and I don't remember the aspects. They are the type that gets quickly bored and wants variety I definately agree that they are more into mental stimulation (like Uranus) than the actual sex itself but their curiosity leads them to having sex in the end. So even if they aren't interested in it they still do it out of curiosity.

Could you post your natal chart or give me birth details?
I would like to see the chart of that co worker you mentioned too! If that friend you mentioned is me now then your co worker is the future me :P

Honestly if you don't mind typing I would like to listen to all of those observations/stories but I would really love it if I could see their charts too! although I understand it may be difficult for you.

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posted June 06, 2018 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. Yeah sheís into super young and super old guys like in 50-60s. I will post her chart but first can you recommend me a site where I can get the URL code? I donít like photobucket (too much issues I have there).

Yes she has had sex, she is not a very sexual person but she expresses her sexuality in an artistic form (sheís a composer/model). She lost her virginity at 16. Sheís born in 1992.

Another person I know who has Saturn in there 8th house but in Pisces, itís also there 7th ruler is my ex girlfriend of two years. I can post her chart as well if youíd like? She is gay and was always shy expressing her sexuality to me in fact she was not really comfortable in her body and she was aware of this. She never had sex with a guy before because she knew she was gay at a very young age. However I suspect she was sexually molested at a young age but Iím not completely sure of this.

And about virgos....Im with you on everything youíve said about Pisces and Virgo people I even wanna consider myself an expert on Virgo and piscean individuals! Because I have met literally a dozen virgos and Pisces plus my close friends of years Iíve known for are virgos and Pisces. Also I know a lot about Chiron people (I have many friends with prominent Chiron and many people Iíve worked with who have prominent Chiron). I definitely wanna share my insight on people with a strong Chiron in thereís charts with you and anyone open to receiving my take on it (i have charts to prove this). Chiron is not that negative as a lot of astrologers wanna say it is, In fact I see Chiron having a strong positive background in astrology but it depends on the person...I have evidence to back this up astrological speaking. If your interested. Iím actually in the process of writing an article on Chiron in astrology.

I wish I can share my birth chart on here but I prefer to do that privately Iím sure you can understand!!

I dated a few mars in Geminiís in my life also I always attract mars in Gemini people in my life but thatís most likely because i have Venus in Sagittarius square Jupiter in Virgo and my venus mars midpoint is in Sagittarius.

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posted June 06, 2018 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I want both of those charts!
tinypic.com works for me, you have to sign up for free and the urls work (I've tried 2 other sites and I had problem with the urls not working) you can copy the "img" url and the chart's pic will appear in your comment. It has other urls too.

Yes I am interested in Chiron too!
Especially Chiron in 1st H, Chiron conjuct Mercury (I have these 2), I am interested in Chiron opposite Mars and Neptune in a man's chart especially!Do you also know how would Chiron conjuct/quincunx Sun would work in a synastry?
I generally want to know more about Chiron, I don't have experience with it even though I have had it in all my synastries with the ones I liked but I don't get it at all.

I am very disappointed in the interpetations of Chiron I find online. Nothing rings true for me and some people I know except of some interpretatios of chiron opposite mars. The only thing that someone told me once was that the Chiron conjuct Mercury makes a person to speak the truth and that person expects from others the same and is hurt when others are not as sincere. Which is true in my case.

Are you a male/female? Are you bi or gay?
I am wondering what could indicate this in someones chart.
I hear about Venus in hard aspect with Uranus/Neptune and venus in Aqua but I know men like that and they don't seem interested in the same sex.

Aqua in 5th or 8th H could be an indication but having it myself in there with Saturn in it I am not into females unfortunately, I think it would be a lot easier though for the females especially if we would be attracted to the same sex.

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posted June 06, 2018 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My really good close friend of 3 + years whose into super young and super old guys. I have a theory that when Mercury is aspecting the 7th ruler or 7th house planets or descendant that the person tends to attract YOUNGER people. I think Mercury defently rules YOUTH but that's just my opinion and i've seen it in many cases. Saturn prominent the person dates older people (I've seen that a lot). but it makes sense with saturn in aquarius square mercury and venus (totally unconventional).

my ex below

my co worker (known her for a year and a half) below, she's the one in her 50s who never got married, and never could find a stable relationship however she is very attached to her son and loves to travel! she also MOSTLY dated YOUNG guys even in her late 20s. she said she only dated 1 older guy but the rest of the guys were way younger then her. 7th ruler URANUS CONJUNCT PLUTO SQUARE MERCURY! I swear mercury rules YOUTH in astrology...i see it a lot!

This is another girl that is in her early 40s she also never got married and never really had a stable relationship either, she's always had issues finding guys who give her stability, she's very clingy and very romantic and tends to idealize a lot of the people she dates (neptune in 7th). she has no kids, lives on her own, and has a horrible relationship with her mom (they don't talk) her father also absent from her life. theres lots of things that i see in her chart that i have pointed out and she's confirmed it but its a long list to say

I also wanna post this last chart of my father. He has been happily married for over 40 years and loves my mother dearly. Its crazy how so many astrologers i know would say 7th ruler VENUS IN GEMINI SQUARE MOON AND MARS (RED FLAG!) what ignorance... as the same time i think venus in gemini in the 8th house square the moon can mean lots of things, it doesn't necessarily mean that the guy is a cheater, or doesn't know who he loves, my mom is completely different from his own mother thats for sure and it explains the moon square venus in his natal (thats one way of how this aspect manifested in his life) i also like to pay attention to name asteroids as well because thats in my opinion another way of seeing how that person effects you deeply and i've seen this MANY times when doing readings for hundreds of people I've read for including people I've dated/friends etc. But its always really important to example progressions because i do believe these charts play a HUGE role in your life and make up for who you are while your alive.

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posted June 07, 2018 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im a female and bi (i hate labels). i will post the stuff on chiron later and comment on a few more things you said soon.

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posted June 07, 2018 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So basically any connection of 7th H(Dsc) or 7th ruler to Mercury or Uranus leads to attract younger partner ?
In general males are always older than females.
So when Mercury connects then males attracts way younger partners than their age ?
10 years or more younger instead 5 years ?

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posted June 07, 2018 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Somna7H:
So basically any connection of 7th H(Dsc) or 7th ruler to Mercury or Uranus leads to attract younger partner ?
In general males are always older than females.
So when Mercury connects then males attracts way younger partners than their age ?
10 years or more younger instead 5 years ?

As far as my theory goes and many charts of done readings for, I would say YES, HOWEVER keep in mind that this what i said is just 1 of the manifestations of this Mercury/Uranus and/or 3rd house/11thouse planets and/or 3rd ruler/11th ruler combo aspecting the 7th ruler/descendant/7th house planets. There are so many interpretations on how this particular aspect in the natal can manifest along with also considering progressed charts and looking back at the transits to pin point events on the person's life (astrological events do influence a person's evolution and the way they will act/behave in the future). but natal wise i always stumble across these specific people who happen to always have a mercury/uranus etc. aspecting in some way the 7th house/7th ruler/7th house planets that tend to attract younger generation of people.

Also if your into asteroids i notice asteroid Child can also have somewhat of an influence to those that are attracted to younger people or people they like to feel responsible for etc. Again this is just 1 manifestation.

Another planet in the mix i like to consider for those attracted to younger people moreso then older is the 5th house/5th ruler/5th house planets/planets in LEO and maaaaaybe the SUN i haven't really seen that the SUN being influential with being attracted to young people BUT i think it can manifest since the sun is symbolically LEO/the 5th ruler/5th house in astrology.

I would say more then 5 years younger and it doesn't have to be BY AGE, it can also be the MENTALITY of the woman. They may date an older woman but she may have a mind of a 5 year old! that can also manifest if age DOES not meet and i've seen that myself too many times. She may also LOOK younger then she does. the list goes on...

and i wouldn't assume all males like younger females; everyone is different in my opinion.
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posted June 08, 2018 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey angel
I'll talk a little bit about each one of the charts.

ēYour friend's chart

I wouldn't guess that your friend did have sex. I am trying to understand what would make the difference in her chart. I can see that she has a strong Venus in Taurus, Pluto from 5th aspecting Saturn in 8th and even Moon in Capricorn ruled by Saturn near the 7th H cusp, all may play an important role. It may just be that there is no planet (Saturn Uranus or Neptune) in the 7th H. Still, no matter how much I think of it I can not really explain it liek "yeahh! I found it!" I wouldn't have guessed it.

ē About your ex
Well that I could have guess not at what age she would have sex but that she would at some point. First Saturn is in Pisces not in Aqua, Saturn is considered strong in Capricorn, Aqua and Libra, I believe that when a planet "works" in a negative way in someone's chart then it would be better if that planet was in a weak sign not a string one at least. If that planet is in a strong sign then it makes it worse instead of better, the negative effect is stronger if that makes sense.
Second is Saturn in a hard aspect with Mars. I know a few with this aspect and they actually had sex at a good age (17,18,19) the thing is that they didn't like it and after many years (Saturn return) they would like it more and more but it feels like they are too slow, so they do it but they are late to enjoy it.
Her Venus is strong in Taurus and her Moon in Gemini makes it def easier.
It's especially Saturn in hard aspect to Mars and then the fact that Saturn is not in a good sign that would make me decide that this person would have sex at some point in their life.

ē About your co worker
I can really see everything you said about her actually. Problematic relationships Aqua 7th H Uranus very close to her 1st H and Pluto in it. Her 4th H in Scorpio and Neptune exactly on the cusp. But even though she has NN in 8th H (again I know very few with this placement) it would be a surprise for me if she didn't have sex. I know she did since you said about her having a son but before I read what you said I was looking at the charts thinking which ones were the most possible to never have had sex.

ē The woman in her early 40s
She has Sun and Mercury in Scorpio, Venus strong in Libra but in conjuction with Pluto and Moon strong in Taurus. Neptune in 7th H and 7th H cusp in a mutable sign. I can see her being clingy and idealizing relationship and of course having problem finding a stable one (Sag 7th H cusp and Neptune in it).

Her Moon (mother) is square Mars and opposite Sun (father), Moon Mars hard aspects or Moon in Aries as soon as I see that in someone's chart I stay away from that person same goes for Mercury in Pisces/Mercury in hard aspect with Neptune. Those 2 are a NOOOOO.. The good thing with Mercury in Pisces or Mercury hard aspect Neptune I sense it pretty quickly but the Moon in Aries or Moon hard aspect to Mars.. Oh God you have to live with those people in the same house for some months in order to see their true self.

That lady has also Saturn in 4th H. I would say that her parents are cold or absent literally. Also her 4th H is ruled by Sun which indicates our father and is opposite her Moon (mother). The bad relationship with her mother I could have guessed it by that Moon-Mars square. I think it's good that she didn't have a family because of what I mentioned above.

ē Last is your father
I see the square Moon and Mars again but not only it's quite loose, he has Mars in Pisces which is a passive Mars and Moon Saturn sextile 1 orb which I find very nice.
He has 7th H cusp in Taurus its natural ruler Venus in 8th H of intimacy I find it very beautiful and to be honest I don't find Venus and Jupiter hard aspects (woth the peraonal planets) negative to the point that they cause problems.
He also has South Node in 7th H.. He is a natural in relationships the opposite of me (South Node in 1st)
I love his Neptune in 12th H and Uranus in 9th H, the most problematic planets are somewhere that I actually consider good placement.
I also love that Jupiter and Pluto in 10th H!
I wouldn't guess that he would have perfect family but I would guess he would have nice relationships and that he wouldn't have major problems when it comes to family, because Mars in 4th H is no good but he has Mars in Pisces.
I would like to know how His Pluto square Saturn play out and if his Saturn in 1st H causes him any health problems?

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Thanks for your comments Plutonian! i enjoyed each one of them.

I wanna say as far as orbs goes, I tend to use wider orbs in natal charts especially when an aspect is applying and when I see geometric configuration for example a T square, a grand cross, a yod etc. no matter if its over 3 degrees I still see influence especially if these planets are ANGULAR or in ANGULAR HOUSES. I think 8 degrees is far to wide but my max i usually go for is 6 degrees and if i have to go for 8 degrees it would be because of a stellium or if its ANGULAR or in ANGULAR HOUSES, geometry patterns and so forth, its complicated to explain.

I'll give you an example, My sun is conjunct neptune in the 4th house (an angular house) and its within 5 degrees of orb PLUS it is parallel EXACT! in declination, lots of astrologers would not count this but trust me I see much influence in this aspect in my personality, and also both of my siblings are PISCES, (This is more than just a coincidence.) Also my moon is also squaring neptune at 5 degrees...There is a pattern #5, plus its applying since the moon is fast. I can explain my sun conjunct neptune in my personality but it would be such a long say to say to explain this lol.

another example, is my father's chart (jupiter square the north node at 7 degrees). OMG i' m not sure how much you understand jupiter, sag, 9th house related stuff but i kid you not but i' m amazed on how influential this aspect in his chart is (its insane). Ask me what he does for a living? if your interested in knowing and I will tell you. It's okay if your not, I totally respect

Just something to consider but I completely respect your views on orbs. btw I'm a moon in aries lol.

as far as my dad goes with his mars in pisces, his upbringing was extremely violent and he was also molested as a young child by a woman. He used to be an alchoholic (like his father) and went haywire in the mid 90s (I'm assuming neptune was squaring his own neptune possibly). his health is terrible but only because he doesn't take care of himself and is addicted to not so good things that poison him, he can't help it, plus he's stubborn doesn't like to listen to other peoples advice but his own.

His pluto square saturn..well appearance wise he's thin, dark skinned has dark eyes, he's very serious, intimidating to some people, but once you talk to him he is very nice/gentle but he's very serious. He's the boss among other bosses in his company. He's worked very hard to have the life he has, he used to be very poor and i wanna say we as a family are upper middle class. trying to think of other things..

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Hey angel
I don't have a problem with your Aries Moon as long as I don't live in the same house with you and we don't have an emotional connection.
My mother has Sun, Moon, Mars in Aries, Moon conjuct Mars. Mercury in Pisces Retro and Venus in Aqua. She wouldn't have married if it wasn't for her parents arranging it. And she should not do it. She is not mother or wife material. That Mercury in Pisces makes her appear so quiet and kind to others (in fact she pretends to be like that) but the reality is the exact opposite.

About the orbs, I agree with you. I take any aspect up to 6 orbs very seriously. Same goes for aspects more than 6 orbs if they are parallel or contra parallel. I agree about angular houses too but still no more than 8 orbs.
I can't see why someone wouldn't consider your Sun conjuct Neptune within 5 degrees a valid aspect even if it wasn't in angular houses/parallel.

I do not understand Jupiter/9th H almost at all. I have problem with 9th H and I have my Moon in Pisces in there. I feel it's an abstract house and I don't really get it how it would work practically.
You can tell me about it and your father's work too of course! Whatever you have to say I am interested in because I don't wanna know just about specific placements/aspects/patterns. But I do since I happen to attract those people around me (the only exception being relatives).

I wouldn't have guessed about your father being molested by a woman out of his family, but I could see his violent upbringing with Mars in 4th H. What's going on with his natal Nessus?
I can see him being an alcoholic, so he has health problems because he doesn't take care of himself like Saturn in 1st H wants him to.
He is following his Mars.

"His pluto square saturn..well appearance wise he's thin, dark skinned has dark eyes, he's very serious, intimidating to some people, but once you talk to him he is very nice/gentle but he's very serious. He's the boss among other bosses in his company. He's worked very hard to have the life he has, he used to be very poor and i wanna say we as a family are upper middle class. trying to think of other things.."

All of that I could have guessed (well except of his skin color) Him being serious and intimidating with dark eyes. Boss among bosses that is his Puto in 10th H. Well done to that Pluto and Jupiter in 10th H.
I can see him being poor with
Mars in 4th in a poor sign for mars imo.

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Sorry let me know if you still need to read this post Iíll paste it again.

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Sorry let me know if you still need to read this post Iíll paste it again.

Hey angel! What do you mean?
I just saw your reply. I thought you hadn't replied yet

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Hey angel! What do you mean?
I just saw your reply. I thought you hadn't replied yet

dang it! let me send you what i wrote just a min.

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Oh wow thatís a lot of Aries energy your mom has there what house is it in?!

Whatís the ruler of your moon? And what aspects does your Moon make in your chart?

So to tell you some of the main themes with Jupiter, jupiter has really shown up in my life including my readings, transits, predictive work etc. as the LAW, RELIGION, FOREIGN TRAVELLING, EDUCATION, PROFESSORS, HIGHER DEGREES, PREACHERS, GURUS, HIPPIES, etc. The 9th house and Jupiter/sag/9th house is also very curious just as similar as mercury but I feel Jupiter is a believer and mercury spectulates or relays much on facts but i feel Jupiter is definitely like the righteous Iím right about everything! I BELIEVE...FAITH...thatís why i had mentioned religion and preaching. Jupiter in my opinion has nothing to do with marriage or husbands at all but I could be wrong but I never witnessed Jupiter showing up as marriage or your partner, completely false!

I can say I know much about this planet and house and sagges because my chart ruler is venus in Sagittarius square Jupiter exact plus my 9th ruler is square my ascendant exact.

So jupiter in Virgo in my fathers chart in the 10th house. My dad is para legal works with attorneys for about 35 years. The type of law he does is WORKERS COMP LAW. Workers Comp law is when an employee gets injured at work and their employer refuses to pay for there employees treatment, the employee is entitled by CALIFORNIA LAW to sue the employer.

Now... work is connected to VIRGO! The 6th house and the 6th ruler and perhaps mercury the ruler.

The Law is much connected to Jupiter.

The 10th house is the career.

We see this conjunction with Pluto and Pluto is very much a planet of INVESTIGATION and MONEY and my dads job requires a lot of investigation! And gains and loss of money towards the law service (Jupiter in Virgo) working for the attorney (Jupiter in Virgo conjunct Pluto) also his attorney is foreign!! And religious!! Another Jupiter theme we see here.

The square to north node definitely says that he was meant or perhaps destined to do this type of work to help his RAHU evolve.

This career helped him grow indepdently and helped him think for himself (NN IN THE 1st house). Alsoooo he has a partnership with this attorney which is very connected to the (south node in 7th house) 7th house rules contracts in my opinion because it is a partner oriented house. South node in Gemini what do you know...facts, documents, etc. Much of what my father has to deal with in his lifetime PLUS he also has a family firm business with my mother as well!! And sheís aspecting (by conjunction) this by her 6th ruler (service/work) Saturn!

Now with Chironía role how it has manifested in my life and my clients/family/transits/predictive work etc.

Chiron is very much connected to the field of medicine! Yes, medicine. A lot of astrologers always miss this. He is also connected to injuries! Hence he is the ďwoundedĒ healer (medicine, treatment etc.)

One example to prove this...
A skin esthetician who has her own business she is very successful!!! Very!! She does facials, promotes products for other doctors, sugar hair removal (makes her own recipes), gives skin advice and nutririon she is obsessed with nutrition and she looks great! Sheís very beautiful, And sheís very tech savvy, and wants to create products of her own.

Her Natal placements are 11th ruler Moon in Taurus at 25 degrees conjunct Chiron at 0 degrees Gemini conjunct the MIDHEAVEN IN TAURUS at 29 degrees. Her Chiron is also square her ascendant in Virgo. Her moon and Chiron is opposing her sun in scorpio, sheís got sun in Scorpio in the 3rd house conjunct the IC.

Another example, is a friend of mine who is a nurse, nutritionist she has Chiron in cancer in the 8th house SEXTILE HER MIDHEAVEN within less then 1 orb. Sheís got MIDHEAVEN IN VIRGO! Not surprised I seen so many nurses doctors skin therapists nutritionists or people who work with doctors or those who need treatment with a prominent Virgo in there chart. PLUS HER VESTA AND MEDEA (she was nutritionist in Roman or Greek mythology) conjunct her MIDHEAVEN AS WELL. Vesta and Medea also deal with medicine as well along with Chiron. Also her dad is a lawyer i guesses it when I noticed her sun in Leo in her 9th house!! Sextile Jupiter in Gemini in the 7th house. Her Nessus is in Virgo in the 10th house (I donít see Nessus as entirely negative as other astrologers say) I actually see Nessus in individuals who are very passionate or strongly passionate about whatever sign aspect of House it is in and can express it incredibly positively just depends on how mature the person is.

I have more examples! but Iíll stop here.

My dad has Nessus in Taurus conjunct his descendant.

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