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ScandinavianCrab
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posted July 06, 2018 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScandinavianCrab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will throw this question out and hopefully get some answers.

What I'm looking for is maybe not placements of a woman who enjoys to torture men, but rather a woman who maybe not enjoys being submissive in bed?

Might moon in Capricorn be such a placement?

Any experience or ideas? All are welcome!

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posted July 07, 2018 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 07, 2018 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think your question is unclear.

When I hear dominatrix, I think of a type of risque entertainer who are in it more for the money than anything. (Though I could easily see someone who is pragmatic and uninhibited doing so for reasons like the woman in this commercial )

You're obviously not thinking of an entertainer, but someone practicing a lifestyle, which can be done for a variety of psychological reasons (which would have different placements triggered or shaped by environmental circumstances), nor do you mean someone who enjoys inflicting pain in an erotic manner (a female Christian Grey) so that would leave out many of the women who join "dungeons" as part of a genuine dominatrix lifestyle.

So I'm left wondering what you mean as that seems to eliminate all those that people would think of as a dominatrix. All I have to go on is "not submissive in bed" when I'd say the vast majority of women not submissive in bed would never be thought of as a dominatrix. Many such assertive women give back (sometimes much more than they take) and while kinkiness is likely, BDSM is completely optional (and may easily involve "switching" which is to say exchanging power roles, and ironically, such a woman being a dominatrix may be doing so solely to please her man). She's assertive, maybe even bossy and demanding, but that doesn't make her a dominatrix.

That leaves me to think you're actually asking what are the placements of a woman who is pushy about what she wants while also too selfish to give back. But most women like that aren't called a dominatrix (and probably wouldn't want to be bothered to dress up and play with such props). Names that I can share unlikely to be censored include "pillow princesses" and "do me queens" (when applied to women, not gay men) rather than dominatrix. But that's just a guess and I don't know what you mean. Maybe you just mean bossy, or demands a lot with specific instructions (without the whips and bondage), prone to violent tantrums if she doesn't get her way (including in bed), or even just perfectly comfortable with her sexuality unlike many other women that could come off as domineering & kinky ("dominatrix") to a man who is on the squeamish side.

Since I know many here aren't shy about talking on these topics and even seem to enjoy them, I'm guessing that they're also unsure on what you mean and that's holding them back. Can you give an example of what you mean?

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posted July 08, 2018 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I think your question is unclear.

When I hear dominatrix, I think of a type of risque entertainer who are in it more for the money than anything. (Though I could easily see someone who is pragmatic and uninhibited doing so for reasons like the woman in this commercial )

You're obviously not thinking of an entertainer, but someone practicing a lifestyle, which can be done for a variety of psychological reasons (which would have different placements triggered or shaped by environmental circumstances), nor do you mean someone who enjoys inflicting pain in an erotic manner (a female Christian Grey) so that would leave out many of the women who join "dungeons" as part of a genuine dominatrix lifestyle.

So I'm left wondering what you mean as that seems to eliminate all those that people would think of as a dominatrix. All I have to go on is "not submissive in bed" when I'd say the vast majority of women not submissive in bed would never be thought of as a dominatrix. Many such assertive women give back (sometimes much more than they take) and while kinkiness is likely, BDSM is completely optional (and may easily involve "switching" which is to say exchanging power roles, and ironically, such a woman being a dominatrix may be doing so solely to please her man). She's assertive, maybe even bossy and demanding, but that doesn't make her a dominatrix.

That leaves me to think you're actually asking what are the placements of a woman who is pushy about what she wants while also too selfish to give back. But most women like that aren't called a dominatrix (and probably wouldn't want to be bothered to dress up and play with such props). Names that I can share unlikely to be censored include "pillow princesses" and "do me queens" (when applied to women, not gay men) rather than dominatrix. But that's just a guess and I don't know what you mean. Maybe you just mean bossy, or demands a lot with specific instructions (without the whips and bondage), prone to violent tantrums if she doesn't get her way (including in bed), or even just perfectly comfortable with her sexuality unlike many other women that could come off as domineering & kinky ("dominatrix") to a man who is on the squeamish side.

Since I know many here aren't shy about talking on these topics and even seem to enjoy them, I'm guessing that they're also unsure on what you mean and that's holding them back. Can you give an example of what you mean?


I think it's pretty clear. The definition of dominatrix is very cut and dry. I've only ever heard of one definition:

a woman who plays the dominant and sadistic role in BDSM activities.

My guess for placements would be:

- Strong Scorpio and Capricorn mix
- Neptune, Uranus and/or Pluto in the 8th house
- Venus-pluto (hard aspect)

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posted July 08, 2018 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astra:
a woman who plays the dominant and sadistic role in BDSM activities.

Which is different from the definition of "not placements of a woman who enjoys to torture men, but rather a woman who maybe not enjoys being submissive in bed"

It's possible SC native language isn't English and is thus struggling to find the right word (though then again, those who learn English as a second language tend to be better and more precise speakers of it than native speakers).

In any case, threads like these usually do very well so I'm surprised you're the only one to provide an answer so far, assuming that the question really is clear.

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posted July 08, 2018 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars aspect Moon?

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posted July 08, 2018 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScandinavianCrab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I think your question is unclear.

When I hear dominatrix, I think of a type of risque entertainer who are in it more for the money than anything. (Though I could easily see someone who is pragmatic and uninhibited doing so for reasons like the woman in this commercial )

You're obviously not thinking of an entertainer, but someone practicing a lifestyle, which can be done for a variety of psychological reasons (which would have different placements triggered or shaped by environmental circumstances), nor do you mean someone who enjoys inflicting pain in an erotic manner (a female Christian Grey) so that would leave out many of the women who join "dungeons" as part of a genuine dominatrix lifestyle.

So I'm left wondering what you mean as that seems to eliminate all those that people would think of as a dominatrix. All I have to go on is "not submissive in bed" when I'd say the vast majority of women not submissive in bed would never be thought of as a dominatrix. Many such assertive women give back (sometimes much more than they take) and while kinkiness is likely, BDSM is completely optional (and may easily involve "switching" which is to say exchanging power roles, and ironically, such a woman being a dominatrix may be doing so solely to please her man). She's assertive, maybe even bossy and demanding, but that doesn't make her a dominatrix.

That leaves me to think you're actually asking what are the placements of a woman who is pushy about what she wants while also too selfish to give back. But most women like that aren't called a dominatrix (and probably wouldn't want to be bothered to dress up and play with such props). Names that I can share unlikely to be censored include "pillow princesses" and "do me queens" (when applied to women, not gay men) rather than dominatrix. But that's just a guess and I don't know what you mean. Maybe you just mean bossy, or demands a lot with specific instructions (without the whips and bondage), prone to violent tantrums if she doesn't get her way (including in bed), or even just perfectly comfortable with her sexuality unlike many other women that could come off as domineering & kinky ("dominatrix") to a man who is on the squeamish side.

Since I know many here aren't shy about talking on these topics and even seem to enjoy them, I'm guessing that they're also unsure on what you mean and that's holding them back. Can you give an example of what you mean?


Thank you for taking your time to answer.
I understand that my question is pretty much unclear, or at least have some "gaps", and I can confess to that it was hastily formulated.

The topic and subject that I wished to discuss here is also an area that I haven't spent too much time contemplating or researching, relatively -considering partly the complexity of the question that you also bring up with your post.

The points that you brought up also made me realize that my question is kind of immature because I know that we won't find the answer, not with solely astrology.

But. The reason I asked was because I feel I have met my fair share of women who wanted to be dominated in not so pretty ways, and even if my foggy Virgo Mars can take the initiative in many different ways ( trust me ), things that move close to outright physical abuse will never work for it. And I wouldn't enjoy living with someone who felt she was missing something like that in our life.
Turning the tables though, just a little, sometime, would be really interesting

As for moon/mars I know for sure that a conjunction, at least in Virgo, won't "cure" the issue

And as for pushy egotistical women/men I also have a fair understanding of what their charts look like...

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posted July 08, 2018 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Women who do not enjoy being dominated... I'd think of strong Mars and Uranus (like in aspect to their Sun or AC)... A lot of Aries, Sagittarius, Gemini or Aquarius... They might go with it but may not really enjoy it....Libra and Leo are different as they're more into pleasing a partner, hence often enjoying the submissive role. (Especially if their on the receiving end from Aries or Aquarius respectively)... I would also include Scorpio women who are in general slow to trust and I have seen them often with men who are on the softer side, leading me to believe that these women aren't too keen on being dominated.

As for dominatrix women, you may see Sun-Pluto, Mars-Pluto, Pluto in the 1st or the 7th,or Sun/Mars/Moon/AC in Scorpio.

A dominatrix may still enjoy being a sub, and that whole role-exchanging scenario in sex. Some even like (pretend) rape, which is like the ultimate level of being submissive.

As a surprising side note, some of the kinkiest dominatrix women are Virgo, Libra, and Pisces!

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posted July 08, 2018 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 08, 2018 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScandinavianCrab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Women who do not enjoy being dominated... I'd think of strong Mars and Uranus (like in aspect to their Sun or AC)... A lot of Aries, Sagittarius, Gemini or Aquarius... They might go with it but may not really enjoy it....Libra and Leo are different as they're more into pleasing a partner, hence often enjoying the submissive role. (Especially if their on the receiving end from Aries or Aquarius respectively)... I would also include Scorpio women who are in general slow to trust and I have seen them often with men who are on the softer side, leading me to believe that these women aren't too keen on being dominated.

As for dominatrix women, you may see Sun-Pluto, Mars-Pluto, Pluto in the 1st or the 7th,or Sun/Mars/Moon/AC in Scorpio.

A dominatrix may still enjoy being a sub, and that whole role-exchanging scenario in sex. Some even like (pretend) rape, which is like the ultimate level of being submissive.

As a surprising side note, some of the kinkiest dominatrix women are Virgo, Libra, and Pisces!


To confirm a little of what you're stating, the most compatible woman I've ever met was a Sagittarius with a moon-mars conjunction in Aquarius. It just sucks that we have such harsh Saturn aspects in both synastry and composite... Though under the influence of some alcohol it was pretty close to perfect.

And yes I read some about these women and the role swapping, it's kinda fascinating
I guess a 1st house Aries Mars inconjunct Pluto in Scorpio, square Venus in Cancer and square Neptune in Capricorn would qualify under your description?

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posted January 18, 2020 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pluviophile123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The idea of dom/sub relationships excite me to no end. I honestly think itís what I need in my life right now...... 11th house cappy Venus conjunct outer planets except Pluto and opposite cancer Jupiter in 5th house and Scorpio mars in 8th house conjunct Scorpio sun, Mercury, Pluto in 9th. Letís not forget my 3rd house Taurus moon opposing my sun and mercury as well

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posted January 18, 2020 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Jupiter in 5th house and Scorpio mars in 8th house conjunct Scorpio sun, Mercury"


That's hot.

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posted January 19, 2020 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pluviophile123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
"Jupiter in 5th house and Scorpio mars in 8th house conjunct Scorpio sun, Mercury"


That's hot.


And lethal 😵😵😵 jk! Maybe

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posted January 19, 2020 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
I will throw this question out and hopefully get some answers.

What I'm looking for is maybe not placements of a woman who enjoys to torture men, but rather a woman who maybe not enjoys being submissive in bed?

Might moon in Capricorn be such a placement?

Any experience or ideas? All are welcome!


My last lover loved been in control and calling the shots in bed, I could see how a female too would be this way if she had similar placements.

He had sun in capricorn with AC in scorpio conjunct Pluto opposite Mars on the DC.

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posted January 19, 2020 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
I will throw this question out and hopefully get some answers.

What I'm looking for is maybe not placements of a woman who enjoys to torture men, but rather a woman who maybe not enjoys being submissive in bed?

Might moon in Capricorn be such a placement?

Any experience or ideas? All are welcome!


Moon in Aries ,Sun in Aries or Mars-Sun/Moon aspect.

Moon in Sco,Sun in Sco or Pluto-Sun/Moon aspect.

Consider also midoints above ie Moon-Sun=Mars or Moon-Sun=Pluto etc.

Mars/Pluto should be involved though.

Cap Moon tends to not want to devote too much attention to things not "productive". And that includes sex.

I see them as able to get it on and do the job credibly (whether the passive one or the aggressor etc).But they prefer for things to move along afterwards and not "drag" the lovemaking on.

I recall Miranda(Sex and the City) when in bed with Steve saying to him: "Let's just get it over with " . Because she wanted to do something else.

In my view,Miranda is likely Cap Moon and poor Steve (who felt dejected after she said that), is likely Cancer Moon.

Cap Moon can enjoy teasing with the "promise" of fulfillment. But they are not fiery, passionate lovers.

They can still restrict the actual act somehow of sex i.e "leaving quickly after sex for a meeting" ,"lets only do it in the bedroom" or can do the act as a "job"-devoid of emotional involvement/enthusiasm i.e the silent sex partner etc.

I don't think of Cap Moons as imaginative sex partners tbh. Not unless they are getting paid or their reputation hangs in the balance of being perceived as great lovers.


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posted January 19, 2020 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pluviophile123:
And lethal 😵😵😵 jk! Maybe

That might get me in the mood, but certainly not lethal.

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