posted July 06, 2018 04:39 PM            

What I'm looking for is maybe not placements of a woman who enjoys to torture men, but rather a woman who maybe not enjoys being submissive in bed?

Might moon in Capricorn be such a placement?

posted July 07, 2018 06:14 PM            

When I hear dominatrix, I think of a type of risque entertainer who are in it more for the money than anything. (Though I could easily see someone who is pragmatic and uninhibited doing so for reasons like the woman in this commercial )

You're obviously not thinking of an entertainer, but someone practicing a lifestyle, which can be done for a variety of psychological reasons (which would have different placements triggered or shaped by environmental circumstances), nor do you mean someone who enjoys inflicting pain in an erotic manner (a female Christian Grey) so that would leave out many of the women who join "dungeons" as part of a genuine dominatrix lifestyle.

So I'm left wondering what you mean as that seems to eliminate all those that people would think of as a dominatrix. All I have to go on is "not submissive in bed" when I'd say the vast majority of women not submissive in bed would never be thought of as a dominatrix. Many such assertive women give back (sometimes much more than they take) and while kinkiness is likely, BDSM is completely optional (and may easily involve "switching" which is to say exchanging power roles, and ironically, such a woman being a dominatrix may be doing so solely to please her man). She's assertive, maybe even bossy and demanding, but that doesn't make her a dominatrix.

That leaves me to think you're actually asking what are the placements of a woman who is pushy about what she wants while also too selfish to give back. But most women like that aren't called a dominatrix (and probably wouldn't want to be bothered to dress up and play with such props). Names that I can share unlikely to be censored include "pillow princesses" and "do me queens" (when applied to women, not gay men) rather than dominatrix. But that's just a guess and I don't know what you mean. Maybe you just mean bossy, or demands a lot with specific instructions (without the whips and bondage), prone to violent tantrums if she doesn't get her way (including in bed), or even just perfectly comfortable with her sexuality unlike many other women that could come off as domineering & kinky ("dominatrix") to a man who is on the squeamish side.

posted July 08, 2018 06:12 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I think your question is unclear.

When I hear dominatrix, I think of a type of risque entertainer who are in it more for the money than anything. (Though I could easily see someone who is pragmatic and uninhibited doing so for reasons like the woman in this commercial )

You're obviously not thinking of an entertainer, but someone practicing a lifestyle, which can be done for a variety of psychological reasons (which would have different placements triggered or shaped by environmental circumstances), nor do you mean someone who enjoys inflicting pain in an erotic manner (a female Christian Grey) so that would leave out many of the women who join "dungeons" as part of a genuine dominatrix lifestyle.

So I'm left wondering what you mean as that seems to eliminate all those that people would think of as a dominatrix. All I have to go on is "not submissive in bed" when I'd say the vast majority of women not submissive in bed would never be thought of as a dominatrix. Many such assertive women give back (sometimes much more than they take) and while kinkiness is likely, BDSM is completely optional (and may easily involve "switching" which is to say exchanging power roles, and ironically, such a woman being a dominatrix may be doing so solely to please her man). She's assertive, maybe even bossy and demanding, but that doesn't make her a dominatrix.

That leaves me to think you're actually asking what are the placements of a woman who is pushy about what she wants while also too selfish to give back. But most women like that aren't called a dominatrix (and probably wouldn't want to be bothered to dress up and play with such props). Names that I can share unlikely to be censored include "pillow princesses" and "do me queens" (when applied to women, not gay men) rather than dominatrix. But that's just a guess and I don't know what you mean. Maybe you just mean bossy, or demands a lot with specific instructions (without the whips and bondage), prone to violent tantrums if she doesn't get her way (including in bed), or even just perfectly comfortable with her sexuality unlike many other women that could come off as domineering & kinky ("dominatrix") to a man who is on the squeamish side.

Since I know many here aren't shy about talking on these topics and even seem to enjoy them, I'm guessing that they're also unsure on what you mean and that's holding them back. Can you give an example of what you mean?

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I think it's pretty clear. The definition of dominatrix is very cut and dry. I've only ever heard of one definition:

a woman who plays the dominant and sadistic role in BDSM activities.

My guess for placements would be:

posted July 08, 2018 01:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Astra:
a woman who plays the dominant and sadistic role in BDSM activities.

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Which is different from the definition of "not placements of a woman who enjoys to torture men, but rather a woman who maybe not enjoys being submissive in bed"

It's possible SC native language isn't English and is thus struggling to find the right word (though then again, those who learn English as a second language tend to be better and more precise speakers of it than native speakers).

posted July 08, 2018 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I think your question is unclear.

When I hear dominatrix, I think of a type of risque entertainer who are in it more for the money than anything. (Though I could easily see someone who is pragmatic and uninhibited doing so for reasons like the woman in this commercial )

You're obviously not thinking of an entertainer, but someone practicing a lifestyle, which can be done for a variety of psychological reasons (which would have different placements triggered or shaped by environmental circumstances), nor do you mean someone who enjoys inflicting pain in an erotic manner (a female Christian Grey) so that would leave out many of the women who join "dungeons" as part of a genuine dominatrix lifestyle.

So I'm left wondering what you mean as that seems to eliminate all those that people would think of as a dominatrix. All I have to go on is "not submissive in bed" when I'd say the vast majority of women not submissive in bed would never be thought of as a dominatrix. Many such assertive women give back (sometimes much more than they take) and while kinkiness is likely, BDSM is completely optional (and may easily involve "switching" which is to say exchanging power roles, and ironically, such a woman being a dominatrix may be doing so solely to please her man). She's assertive, maybe even bossy and demanding, but that doesn't make her a dominatrix.

That leaves me to think you're actually asking what are the placements of a woman who is pushy about what she wants while also too selfish to give back. But most women like that aren't called a dominatrix (and probably wouldn't want to be bothered to dress up and play with such props). Names that I can share unlikely to be censored include "pillow princesses" and "do me queens" (when applied to women, not gay men) rather than dominatrix. But that's just a guess and I don't know what you mean. Maybe you just mean bossy, or demands a lot with specific instructions (without the whips and bondage), prone to violent tantrums if she doesn't get her way (including in bed), or even just perfectly comfortable with her sexuality unlike many other women that could come off as domineering & kinky ("dominatrix") to a man who is on the squeamish side.

Since I know many here aren't shy about talking on these topics and even seem to enjoy them, I'm guessing that they're also unsure on what you mean and that's holding them back. Can you give an example of what you mean?

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Thank you for taking your time to answer.
I understand that my question is pretty much unclear, or at least have some "gaps", and I can confess to that it was hastily formulated.

The topic and subject that I wished to discuss here is also an area that I haven't spent too much time contemplating or researching, relatively -considering partly the complexity of the question that you also bring up with your post.

The points that you brought up also made me realize that my question is kind of immature because I know that we won't find the answer, not with solely astrology.

But. The reason I asked was because I feel I have met my fair share of women who wanted to be dominated in not so pretty ways, and even if my foggy Virgo Mars can take the initiative in many different ways ( trust me ), things that move close to outright physical abuse will never work for it. And I wouldn't enjoy living with someone who felt she was missing something like that in our life.
Turning the tables though, just a little, sometime, would be really interesting

As for moon/mars I know for sure that a conjunction, at least in Virgo, won't "cure" the issue

posted July 08, 2018 05:47 PM            

As for dominatrix women, you may see Sun-Pluto, Mars-Pluto, Pluto in the 1st or the 7th,or Sun/Mars/Moon/AC in Scorpio.

A dominatrix may still enjoy being a sub, and that whole role-exchanging scenario in sex. Some even like (pretend) rape, which is like the ultimate level of being submissive.

As a surprising side note, some of the kinkiest dominatrix women are Virgo, Libra, and Pisces!

posted July 08, 2018 06:19 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Women who do not enjoy being dominated... I'd think of strong Mars and Uranus (like in aspect to their Sun or AC)... A lot of Aries, Sagittarius, Gemini or Aquarius... They might go with it but may not really enjoy it....Libra and Leo are different as they're more into pleasing a partner, hence often enjoying the submissive role. (Especially if their on the receiving end from Aries or Aquarius respectively)... I would also include Scorpio women who are in general slow to trust and I have seen them often with men who are on the softer side, leading me to believe that these women aren't too keen on being dominated.

As for dominatrix women, you may see Sun-Pluto, Mars-Pluto, Pluto in the 1st or the 7th,or Sun/Mars/Moon/AC in Scorpio.

A dominatrix may still enjoy being a sub, and that whole role-exchanging scenario in sex. Some even like (pretend) rape, which is like the ultimate level of being submissive.

As a surprising side note, some of the kinkiest dominatrix women are Virgo, Libra, and Pisces!

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To confirm a little of what you're stating, the most compatible woman I've ever met was a Sagittarius with a moon-mars conjunction in Aquarius. It just sucks that we have such harsh Saturn aspects in both synastry and composite... Though under the influence of some alcohol it was pretty close to perfect.

posted January 19, 2020 12:20 AM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
"Jupiter in 5th house and Scorpio mars in 8th house conjunct Scorpio sun, Mercury"

That's hot.

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posted January 19, 2020 12:59 AM            

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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
I will throw this question out and hopefully get some answers.

What I'm looking for is maybe not placements of a woman who enjoys to torture men, but rather a woman who maybe not enjoys being submissive in bed?

Might moon in Capricorn be such a placement?

Any experience or ideas? All are welcome!

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My last lover loved been in control and calling the shots in bed, I could see how a female too would be this way if she had similar placements.

He had sun in capricorn with AC in scorpio conjunct Pluto opposite Mars on the DC.

posted January 19, 2020 08:41 AM            

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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
I will throw this question out and hopefully get some answers.

What I'm looking for is maybe not placements of a woman who enjoys to torture men, but rather a woman who maybe not enjoys being submissive in bed?

Might moon in Capricorn be such a placement?

Any experience or ideas? All are welcome!

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Moon in Aries ,Sun in Aries or Mars-Sun/Moon aspect.

Moon in Sco,Sun in Sco or Pluto-Sun/Moon aspect.

Consider also midoints above ie Moon-Sun=Mars or Moon-Sun=Pluto etc.

Mars/Pluto should be involved though.

Cap Moon tends to not want to devote too much attention to things not "productive". And that includes sex.

I see them as able to get it on and do the job credibly (whether the passive one or the aggressor etc).But they prefer for things to move along afterwards and not "drag" the lovemaking on.

I recall Miranda(Sex and the City) when in bed with Steve saying to him: "Let's just get it over with " . Because she wanted to do something else.

In my view,Miranda is likely Cap Moon and poor Steve (who felt dejected after she said that), is likely Cancer Moon.

Cap Moon can enjoy teasing with the "promise" of fulfillment. But they are not fiery, passionate lovers.

They can still restrict the actual act somehow of sex i.e "leaving quickly after sex for a meeting" ,"lets only do it in the bedroom" or can do the act as a "job"-devoid of emotional involvement/enthusiasm i.e the silent sex partner etc.

I don't think of Cap Moons as imaginative sex partners tbh. Not unless they are getting paid or their reputation hangs in the balance of being perceived as great lovers.

posted January 19, 2020 10:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Pluviophile123:
And lethal 😵😵😵 jk! Maybe

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posted July 05, 2022 10:00 PM            

But if I am always dominating or whatever, I'll get frustrated. In general if it is always the same-ol thing no matter what is is I will get frustrated.

Capricorn/Pluto are very active in my chart
Venus and Mars in the 10th house
Saturn, Uranus, Neptune in Capricorn.

Pluto conjuncts my Moon and lilith
squares my MC, IC, N. Node, S. Node,
sextiles Neptune

My moon is in Scorpio

Urrmm yeah, I've had tantrums when I get bored I guess you can say. I tried bringing new things to try in a non threatening way. And he basically told me to shut up. So I shut down about it for a while, until I realized the way it was impacting me. So then I got real blunt about it.
I also brought up a point "do you really think it's fair to me to not have my needs met the rest of my life?"

posted July 18, 2022 09:28 AM            

So Cap Mars/Ven may have sadistic tendencies or associate pain with joy. Or gain reward through punishment etc.

I read online that Virgo placements may be into "receiving" the punishment and love to be the submissive.

When I started studying astrology, I thought of the cap/vir combo as the "boss/assistant" combo. I actually know many Virgo men who love being dominated sexually and "told what to do".

posted July 18, 2022 11:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
I was flogged by a Capricorn Sun once.

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***swish ***🤣🤣

I most certainly think that Cap energy carries some pleasure in giving others pain.

Hitler was into being beaten and peed on(masochist). This makes perfect sense to me. He was quite sadistic in his hatred of people he believed were "inferior" to him.

posted July 18, 2022 11:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
***swish ***🤣🤣

I most certainly think that Cap energy series some pleasure in giving others pain.

Hitler was into being beaten and peed on. This makes perfect sense to me. He was quite sadistic I his hatred of people he believed were "inferior" to him.

Saturn squares his Ven/Mars. Saturn caramel Mars . And Moon I in Cap.

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My husband has a Capricorn stellilum(Uranus, Neptune, n. node Lilith) he tells me he gets turned on seeing me in pain.

Those are very interesting facts about Hitler.