posted August 23, 2018 10:07 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Aries 8H with Lilith

I hate sex toys. I hate when people talk dirty. I hate rushed sex. I don’t like rough sex!

I need it to be deep, like two bodies become one.
I like to be submissive, and I will be if I feel secure. If I don’t feel secure, I’ll be very aggressive..

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I think this shows everyone is different. Because with Aries there you’d think it would be opposite. I don’t always relate to my placements either.

posted August 23, 2018 10:45 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
I think this shows everyone is different. Because with Aries there you’d think it would be opposite. I don’t always relate to my placements either.

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posted August 23, 2018 11:57 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
My 8th house ruler is Libra

I love sweet, spiritual, romantic type of intercourse. Dont like vulgarity. The idea of “love making” turns me on. I’d rather have one partner in my whole life, and Id prefer if he was my first. I feel though more sensual than sexual. I feel like I can live celibate. So I don’t feel sex is a need. I find other things more important.

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posted August 24, 2018 12:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
what sign is your venus ? Any Neptune strong in your chart?

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Hers is in Pisces but My 8th house ruler is moon in pisces and as a teenager the thought of waiting till I got married disturbed me let alone to live a life of celibacy lol...I can abstain from sex for a while but not a lifetime.

posted August 24, 2018 12:56 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Hers is in Pisces but My 8th house ruler is moon in pisces and as a teenager the thought of waiting till I got married disturbed me let alone to live a life of celibacy lol...I can abstain from sex for a while but not a lifetime.

I think perhaps Mars is more telling than the 8th house...

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But you don't know your exact time of birth, so your chart may look different. I remember you thought once that your ASC was a Scorpio. I think only recently you kinda decided you proly have Venus and Mars in 8th.

posted August 24, 2018 01:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
But you don't know your exact time of birth, so your chart may look different. I remember you thought once that your ASC was a Scorpio. I think only recently you kinda decided you proly have Venus and Mars in 8th.

Venus in 8th is very deep.

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Well my mom is very confident about my time of birth, she says 12:45pm and birth certificate says 12:00pm, both times put me as a sag riser.

Are you saying I am not deep?!

Venus rules my MC and falls in my 8th and I am a counselor, and feel deeply and am a deep thinker. My father is also a counselor and has Mars in Libra.

posted August 24, 2018 01:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
what sign is your venus ? Any Neptune strong in your chart?

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My Venus is in Pisces. I think I have strong Neptune in my chart. As Im a Pisces with a Pisces stellium and 12th house stellium. My neptune is in the 12th and my mars trines neptune. But according to astro Neptune is only my 3rd dominant.

posted August 24, 2018 01:47 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Well my mom is very confident about my time of birth, she says 12:45pm and birth certificate says 12:00pm, both times put me as a sag riser.

Are you saying I am not deep?!

Venus rules my MC and falls in my 8th and I am a counselor, and feel deeply and am a deep thinker. My father is also a counselor and has Mars in Libra.

In my relocation chart I have Scorpio rising though.

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posted August 24, 2018 02:22 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Aries 8H with Lilith

I hate sex toys. I hate when people talk dirty. I hate rushed sex. I don’t like rough sex!

I need it to be deep, like two bodies become one.
I like to be submissive, and I will be if I feel secure. If I don’t feel secure, I’ll be very aggressive..

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Good.
I have Lilith in 8th H but it's Capricorn.

posted August 24, 2018 02:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I’m not at all a sexual being. Lol
I’ve had sexual needs in the past before they were executed by a medication. I’m glad my sexualneeds are gone because when I had them I used sinister means to fulfill them and I’m sure most people do too.
And if not they probably just have to fulfill that need and it’s annoying the lengths they probably go to. Cheating. Manipulation. Lies. Deceit. Who knows what sort of craziness?
So it probably is an okay thing it’s gons... but I’m a few months it’ll be back. Unfortunately. For the longest time I thought it was a curse but now I see how it is partially a blessing.

On another note it will be a blessing because in today’s world it is impossible to have a boyfriend or girlfriend without sex being part of the relationship.
So ...

It’s whatever. I remember what it was like. I was really private about that stuff and I was insecure too. I didn’t really talk about it I just did it. Lol

I had a hoe phase. I’m sure most did. But I also had my reasons. I think naturally I’m not the hoe phase type I think I was trying to mimic my gemini 8th sister who is very sexually promiscuous.

My 8th house is sagittarius.

I also have Neptune there and Uranus on the cusp.
And my mars is libra venus virgo
😇 tbh I’m an angel

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posted August 24, 2018 03:13 AM            

That said, I figured much of my sexual nature comes from my packed 5H Sag, which includes moon, Mars, Uranus, and Neptune, and also the asteroid Eros, which is sextile to my sun and another stellium that includes Venus and Pluto.

If I ever get out of my current relationship I never intend to enter into another monogamous relationship. That shouldn't be read as I plan to jump bed to bed (and I certainly won't be looking for partners on Craigslist), though as my sexual needs are changing I'm not really sure what it means. I think ideally I'd get into a trusted relationship with a man and then with another couple (male/female) that we could trust and swing with each other in every combination (sometimes all 4 of us at the same time), which is different from what I've have said before even a year ago. Though as always, variety of activities would be key for me, and in addition I'd want the other 3 to be very different from each other both physically and in personality (so trying to decide how I was sexually imprinted is about impossible).

An interesting experience I had at 15 was when I was with a group of other teens (runaways) and one came up with the idea of giving each other a hickey necklace (we all took turns giving each other hickeys in different spots so it looked sort of like a "necklace"). I gave hickies to, and got hickies from, many boys and girls, and though my sexual instincts were muted back then (I also had delayed puberty, too complicated to explain in full) I got an incredible erotic high from it. I'm glad the others didn't push it further because I don't think I'd have had the will to refuse. I wonder now if it might contribute to why I find the idea of multiple partners appealing today.

As my sexual needs have been changing, I've looked into it on a human scale, that is trying to figure out what is normal, and what is the result of my messed up upbringing (which my Pisces 8H may have absorbed), and I don't think it's that unusual. Human history, including of the Victorian times, show we've always been freaky. If anything, we're (speaking of society in general) unusually puritanical pearl clutchers today than many other times in human history, arguably even Victorian times (though it's more complicated than either/or). I think we as a society believe wrong things about sex and how bad it is compared to when people thought masturbation led to insanity, blindness, and hairy palms (though interesting enough, the vibrator was actually invented by a doctor back in those days as a medical device). And I've always have a problem because so many can't deal openly with the topic, so I'm not sure what to believe, but I'm 99% certain that women are about as prone to so-called freakishness and perversity as men, but are even more guilt-prone over it so hide it more.

If such are a minority then it's a large one, and I could talk about a sex toy store aimed at women I used to go to, and what they sold a lot of that would probably surprise a lot of people (at least they'd pretend to be shocked). Interesting enough, I found that one of the founders of the Me Too hashtag movement paid an out of court settlement over sex with a minor (more here which is all I feel like looking up...I see she says it was just to stop raising a stink, just what so many guys accused of doing the same also say, go figure).

Like many people in history, I don't confuse love, sex, and marriage (just as I don't confuse law with justice or education for sense or experience). I value the many types of love, not just the erotic kind, and at the same time I'm capable of having sex without love and don't feel empty over it. And I could go on, but that's getting more academic.

Though funny story as I feel like sharing (probably my Sag nature showing itself, but it's another one that contradicts the popular idea of how maternal women are supposed to be, something that history has done as well), I remember reading an interview with Susie Bright who shared that she wasn't allowed to join the track team in high school (I think it was the 1970s) as it was claimed that running like that would interfere with her ability to conceive a child. She was dumb enough to believe it (teachers said it after all, so it must be true--I'm not saying she's a dumb person, mind you) and shared it with friends...and soon, she and many other girls were showing up to run laps after school.

Lots of falsehoods are spread to manipulate us rather than allowing us to make informed choices (from sex to marriage to pregnancy, in addition to a lot of other things), and that annoys me. It also makes it harder for me to get at the truth of the human condition which is even more irksome, as I'd like to know how much of my own desires are unusual to me (as a lot about me is unusual) and how much is actually common that too many won't admit to (possibly not even to themselves). How much is my background? How much is my chart? How much is just my friggin humanity that I share with so many others? (And also how many who tut or rend their garments over the sexual behavior of others are actually more jealous than anything?) I want to understand myself as much as the human condition and it's so hard to do that...especially when it comes to sexual nature.

posted August 24, 2018 01:37 PM            

I know a girl who is bi and likes three somes and I suspect she has moon conjunct Jupiter and Uranus in aquarius in the 5th trine Mars. This other guy I know open to 4 somes and 3 somes of any kind has Uranus in the 5th square Sun and Venus in aquarius. The guy I am seeing he is open as well to three somes and 4 somes, and swapping with another couple and his DC ruler is Venus in aquarius in the 3rd opposite Jupiter which squares his Pluto which opposes his Mars on the DC, he has Draco sun in pisces, the other two people I mention have sun in Pisces.

Since aquarius rules groups and likes things that are shocking and unconventional, I feel they like to challenge the status quo so when in connection to the 5th house or 7th and specially if placements end up linking to their mars I feel they are more likely to be attracted to a group version of sex, more open it, like this concept feels more natural for them and like a great time.

Jupiter/Sag multiplies so I feel this often plays a role too when it meets Uranus/aquarius and the 5th house or 7th house. Then add pisces/Neptune which rules the collective and is comfortable with lack of boundaries and becoming one with everything.

So I feel it's a mix of aquarius/Uranus, sag/Jupiter, and last pisces/Neptune when the other two components are there including an association of these energies linking somehow with the 5th house and 7th house and possibly Mars.

posted August 24, 2018 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Hums I'm curious now if you Aries 8th housers so far are all women? And I wonder if more aggression is obvious in men with this?

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posted August 24, 2018 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by missblyss:
I have an Aries ruled 8th house with Venus in it

I am definitely kinky.... but not into anything violent at all. I definitely like to feel very feminine and getting hit or choked or anything like that is the ultimate turn-off. I never spoke to this guy again after he choked me.

I prefer to have very slow, tantric, inter-connected sex where we share a breath.

I also can turn off my sex-drive entirely and go without it for quite some time and really not care at all. I only want to have sex with someone I have an all-encompassing soul connection with. Anything less, I'd have to be on Xanax (lol...)

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What is your mars placement and aspects?

I didn't like been choked at first either, I think our survival instincts kick in with that one, now I don't mind it...But the shocking thing is more about altering your senses to create a physiological response that enhances pleasure or orgasm but yes is a bit odd I agree.

I am more into other expressions of aggression though like biting that leaves a bruise or been grabbed strongly and firmly, man handled, been spanked hard/spanking, scratched/scratching, I see it as evidence of passion, some pushing each other agaisnt the wall or bed...to me that is my Mars in Leo in the 8th but this conjuncts Venus by less than 1d and that is the part of me that needs sex to involve romantic feelings and be meaningful and that wants to surrender her soul to the other, then my moon in pisces ruling the 8th reinforces this desire to feel vulnerable and surrender to the other and give them my entire heart and soul.

posted August 24, 2018 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Good point but also what are the Mars placements and Mars aspects of these girls. Bc if Mars rules your 8th but you have mars in libra square Neptune you might not be into aggressive gestures or handling at all during sex and it might be a huge turn off BUT if Mars rules your 8th and she has Mars in Aries in the 8th opposite Pluto in Libra let's say she might love some rough handling and may not know it bc she hasn't had that kind of sex with the right guy or bc she has been socialized to not have an open mind about it but to her surprise she meets a guy one day out of the blue who knows how to execute that style well and realizes she loves it.

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posted August 24, 2018 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Good point but also what are the Mars placements and Mars aspects of these girls. Bc if Mars rules your 8th but you have mars in libra square Neptune you might not be into aggressive gestures or handling at all during sex and it might be a huge turn off BUT if Mars rules your 8th and she has Mars in Aries in the 8th opposite Pluto in Libra let's say she might love some rough handling and may not know it bc she hasn't had that kind of sex with the right guy or bc she has been socialized to not have an open mind about it but to her surprise she meets a guy one day out of the blue who knows how to execute that style well and realizes she loves it.

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posted August 24, 2018 04:01 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Aries 8H Lilith
Virgo Mars conj Leo Asc parallel Pluto.

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This makes so much sense based on what you said, the Mars in Virgo enjoys been submissive but it conjuncts your AC in LEO, the rising sign is your social persona and first impression so is like when you don't feel comfortable with someone they don't get to experience the Mars in Virgo in you fully and instead you show them more your AC in LEO as leo feels more comfortable been dominant and expressing their aggressive side. As you get more comfortable and trust grows the Mars in Virgo comes out more. Very interesting.

posted August 24, 2018 09:01 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
What is your mars placement and aspects?

I didn't like been choked at first either, I think our survival instincts kick in with that one, now I don't mind it...But the shocking thing is more about altering your senses to create a physiological response that enhances pleasure or orgasm but yes is a bit odd I agree.

I am more into other expressions of aggression though like biting that leaves a bruise or been grabbed strongly and firmly, man handled, been spanked hard/spanking, scratched/scratching, I see it as evidence of passion, some pushing each other agaisnt the wall or bed...to me that is my Mars in Leo in the 8th but this conjuncts Venus by less than 1d and that is the part of me that needs sex to involve romantic feelings and be meaningful and that wants to surrender her soul to the other, then my moon in pisces ruling the 8th reinforces this desire to feel vulnerable and surrender to the other and give them my entire heart and soul.

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I know I totally feel like the odd one out because I asked like 50 people and every single person told me they loved violent sex and being choked and bit and whatnot

I was literally the only one who doesn't like it and it made me even wonder if there is something wrong with me! But, honestly I dunno if I have some past life **** or if I just really like a super spiritual non aggressive type of sex... I would just be really really upset and bothered if my husband tried to choke me, I am so about wanting him to respect, honor... worship me. That would feel to me like he wasn't valuing me or my body.

posted August 24, 2018 09:31 PM            

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Originally posted by missblyss:
I know I totally feel like the odd one out because I asked like 50 people and every single person told me they loved violent sex and being choked and bit and whatnot

I was literally the only one who doesn't like it and it made me even wonder if there is something wrong with me! But, honestly I dunno if I have some past life **** or if I just really like a super spiritual non aggressive type of sex... I would just be really really upset and bothered if my husband tried to choke me, I am so about wanting him to respect, honor... worship me. That would feel to me like he wasn't valuing me or my body.

My mars is in Gemini In the 11th

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hahahaha Girl is not weird at all you don't like getting chocked .

At first it actually triggered me and made me think maybe I was murdered in a past life, for a few weeks after I stopped seeing that guy as we took a break for close to a month I kept getting flashbacks like I could feel him choking me randomly and it felt dark so is interesting your mind went in that direction too. I do have venus conjunct mars and karma in the 8th so is possible I was choked to death in a past life. Once we got back together that went away and it stopped bothering me and now I don't mind it but is not my thing either.

When I first started seeing my partner back in 2007 he choked me a few times but it did not trigger me at all like with this guy I am seeing now, but I did tell my partner I was not into that and he did not do it again. He has mars conjunct uranus in scorpio, the other guy has mars in taurus apposite pluto in scorpio on his AC, I have mars in the 8th. Is very scorpio mixing a gesture of death with sex.

posted August 24, 2018 09:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
I hate aggressive sex, yes venus in pisces talking.

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posted August 24, 2018 09:44 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Or your completely unaspected mars! What rules your 8th?

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