posted October 19, 2018 12:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
funny enough that means you were on the right track, but didn't do it, just pulled back too soon

if you had focused on the sensation and allowed it to build then imagined your third eye opening to release it then you wouldve eventually gotten it open

it's an unmistakable sensation

you should give it another try since youve been so close already

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posted October 19, 2018 12:43 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Plut0nian2 -

Ohh... my.. I feel you. I have been for many years feeling tired from the petty worries of "will I have enough food" etc. The fear is so deep, so primal!!

And I know what you mean by having a broken heart.. just, just from "everything".

Your accounts both made me cry tonight xx

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posted October 19, 2018 12:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
what aspects are on them? how close are they to your sun? that can make a huge difference

if saturn is in your 8th is it opposing any of them? some systems would count it as having an effect regardless of exact angle which would bring delays and issues to your 2nd house

i have a 7th house north node (conjunct my descendant, my moon is on my descendant too and they're opposite my venus with trines from uranus and mercury to my descendant/moon/nn) and i've been in a longterm (somewhat open) relationship since hs (i'm 32 now) with other sexual partners and another much shorter relationship in between

north node 7th house doesnt at all deny partners, but the cap cusp with uranus and neptune will make those things difficult

friends with benefits isn't the worst substitute anyway though, or did you mean actually platonic? because those kinds of friendships never actually seem to ultimately work that way in my experience and usually it's just that the other person hasnt said anything yet

either way you're still alive right? there's time for things to change, life can change pretty rapidly in a short span of time and uranus is there

also saturn originally ruled aquarius it's comfortable enough there

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My sun is in 10°Cancer, opposite Uranus (2orbs) and Neptune (6 orbs)

Venus 23°40 Leo
Mars 21°50 Leo
Jupiter 14°35 Leo.
The only major aspect is a square from Pluto in Scorpio (17°45)

Saturn in Aqua is 5 degrees.

Here is a link with my chart: http://i67.tinypic.com/2wejg2f.jpg

Yes, Saturn is kind of comfortable there, and I think that makes things actually worse.
When a planet has a negative impact in the house it's in if that planet is strong by sign will make that negative impact even more powerful, if the planet is weaker in sign same goes for its impact. I hope I am making sense.
I mean that a planet strong in its sign will also have as strong impact be it positive or negative depending on the aspects and its house placement.
For example I consider Neptune in 7th H a very negative placement too, but I prefer it being in Capricorn as it is, which is not a "good" sign for Neptune, (maybe it is actually one of the worst since Capricorn is the realist) so I feel that its negative effect at the house is minimized because Neptune isn't strong by sign. If it Neptune was in Pisces things would be worse way worse imo.

I don't know about Saturn in 8th H affecting the 2nd H too. I find it a bit unfair since I have the 2 benefics (even though none of the is strong by sign) in 2nd H to be in this position. I never asked from others and I don't receive anything except of my dad, he was the only one giving me when he was alive. I am not lucky either and it's kind of weird, because everyone I know who participates in free contests has won multiple times things like dish washer/refrigerators/clothes/shoes/makeup and stuff like that and I never do.

Your NN in 7th H receives support from the Moon and the trines are good too and it's not in conjuction with Saturn/Neptune or Uranus.
I don't think Venus opposite NN is that bad since Moon is supporting your NN.

Uranus, Neptune and North Node on DSC is an impossible mix of energies to work.
Lilith and Juno are in my 7th H too. Juno is opposite Chiron and Mercury in 1st H.

Honestly if open relationships work for you, it's great because cheating nowadays is a must. I don't find it bad at all. Unfortunately I can not be in a relationship like that, it would be very damaging for me.
When I said platonic relationships I meant completely platonic ones (sexless).

I just with that combo in 2nd H worked

posted October 19, 2018 08:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Relationship with both parents individually.

Sun-Neptune, dad is nebulous and unconnectable. Recreational drinker, though not an alcoholic.

Moon-Saturn, mom is cold and rejecting.

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I experience the same with my parents.
My dad isnt a druggie but he rarely speaks and always inside his head.(sun/neptune sq and a couple of my siblings has sun/neptune)
My moon isn't aspect to Saturn but sq to IC/MC with opposite Moon. She was cold, rejects affection and critical. I feel she likes me better than I am someone else.

posted October 19, 2018 08:33 PM            

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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
I experience the same with my parents.
My dad isnt a druggie but he rarely speaks and always inside his head.(sun/neptune sq and a couple of my siblings has sun/neptune)
My moon isn't aspect to Saturn but sq to IC/MC with opposite Moon. She was cold, rejects affection and critical. I feel she likes me better than I am someone else.

This isn't shocking but it was a confirmation

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posted October 19, 2018 09:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Valmu83:
I don’t know. I think that heating up is said to be sign of attracting kundalini energy and it is adviced to stop meditating. And it didn’t feel comfortable, and I’m not yogi who could give her life to explore that energy. I don’t even know why people want to open their third eye so badly..to access information it seems. I’m quite clairvoyance even without it and I don’t always like it. Actually I’m more comfortable to meditate through crown chakra. But you are right I should meditate more..maybe I find new direction there.

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i recommend it because it's a good starting point for understanding and controlling the sort of thing you're talking about

a kundalini awakening and opening your third eye can both be very positive experiences, and opening yourself up to other perspectives is interesting

aside from that third eye meditation is also euphoric, it's a rush that's sort of like heroin and lsd combined

and you dont really need to give your life up to explore the world

it's also about feeling connected to everything, once you feel that you can learn to understand it and use that sort of thing to shape your life

astrology is good for this because certain things work best at certain times

i look at it like exploring what life and your body has to offer and i can't imagine wanting to shut that out

i've had plenty of my own strange experiences that have all sort of ended up pushing me where i'm at now, and those spiritual and meditative experiences along the way have helped make sense of some of it

posted October 19, 2018 09:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
My sun is in 10°Cancer, opposite Uranus (2orbs) and Neptune (6 orbs)

Venus 23°40 Leo
Mars 21°50 Leo
Jupiter 14°35 Leo.
The only major aspect is a square from Pluto in Scorpio (17°45)

Saturn in Aqua is 5 degrees.

Here is a link with my chart: http://i67.tinypic.com/2wejg2f.jpg

Yes, Saturn is kind of comfortable there, and I think that makes things actually worse.
When a planet has a negative impact in the house it's in if that planet is strong by sign will make that negative impact even more powerful, if the planet is weaker in sign same goes for its impact. I hope I am making sense.
I mean that a planet strong in its sign will also have as strong impact be it positive or negative depending on the aspects and its house placement.
For example I consider Neptune in 7th H a very negative placement too, but I prefer it being in Capricorn as it is, which is not a "good" sign for Neptune, (maybe it is actually one of the worst since Capricorn is the realist) so I feel that its negative effect at the house is minimized because Neptune isn't strong by sign. If it Neptune was in Pisces things would be worse way worse imo.

I don't know about Saturn in 8th H affecting the 2nd H too. I find it a bit unfair since I have the 2 benefics (even though none of the is strong by sign) in 2nd H to be in this position. I never asked from others and I don't receive anything except of my dad, he was the only one giving me when he was alive. I am not lucky either and it's kind of weird, because everyone I know who participates in free contests has won multiple times things like dish washer/refrigerators/clothes/shoes/makeup and stuff like that and I never do.

Your NN in 7th H receives support from the Moon and the trines are good too and it's not in conjuction with Saturn/Neptune or Uranus.
I don't think Venus opposite NN is that bad since Moon is supporting your NN.

Uranus, Neptune and North Node on DSC is an impossible mix of energies to work.
Lilith and Juno are in my 7th H too. Juno is opposite Chiron and Mercury in 1st H.

Honestly if open relationships work for you, it's great because cheating nowadays is a must. I don't find it bad at all. Unfortunately I can not be in a relationship like that, it would be very damaging for me.
When I said platonic relationships I meant completely platonic ones (sexless).

I just with that combo in 2nd H worked

Recently someone told me that my life is full of changes and surprises, unpredictable. This is not true, the only unpredictable things that happen often are deaths and illnesses, but I don't know if it's related to Uranus or just T. Pluto in 7th H since that's when those things started.

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saturn is opposing your jupiter in the chart you posted along with the pluto square, cap 7th etc

so one of your benefics is hit by saturn, another is conjunct a malefic and squared by another it's hemmed

also this is more of a vedic thing but houses form angles to each other so your 8th house opposes your 2nd and saturn's effect would be felt 2nd house

some people are just unlucky in certain ways

i've been given things and lost or had just as much taken away at points

lot of trouble with any kind of lasting stability outside of my relationship with my fiancee which has been rocky on/off because 14 years and life

as for cheating... i've never cheated, and i wouldn't cheat

when we first got together i told her i wanted something open because she was my first everything and i knew i'd spend my life with her

nearly all of the sex i've had with other people i've also had with her, and when it hasnt been it was in the context of threeway relationships

cheating isnt some new thing anyway, people were just more secretive and less open

i've heard plenty of people's family stories and so on, people tend to tell me their secrets

i dont think anything is impossible to work btw, i think it's a matter of being willing to fail until you get it to work instead of just giving up

i guess i hadnt really thought about any friendships being sexless and it not even being an option

ive had sex/flirted/had things get complicated with nearly all of my friends that ive been around regularly or have gotten close to

i suppose i dont entirely understand friendships not going there naturally eventually

you do have a hard chart i wont lie, your 2 major benefics are getting hit hard by malefics and saturn is in some rough areas too

but it's not all bad

as for the death thing, uranus is in my 8th pluto is on my ic

recently lost my fiancee's sister who was like a sibling/our kid, there were points where we raised her

only person who will probably ever call me "dad" died on father's day

posted October 20, 2018 07:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
saturn is opposing your jupiter in the chart you posted along with the pluto square, cap 7th etc

so one of your benefics is hit by saturn, another is conjunct a malefic and squared by another it's hemmed

also this is more of a vedic thing but houses form angles to each other so your 8th house opposes your 2nd and saturn's effect would be felt 2nd house

some people are just unlucky in certain ways

i've been given things and lost or had just as much taken away at points

lot of trouble with any kind of lasting stability outside of my relationship with my fiancee which has been rocky on/off because 14 years and life

as for cheating... i've never cheated, and i wouldn't cheat

when we first got together i told her i wanted something open because she was my first everything and i knew i'd spend my life with her

nearly all of the sex i've had with other people i've also had with her, and when it hasnt been it was in the context of threeway relationships

cheating isnt some new thing anyway, people were just more secretive and less open

i've heard plenty of people's family stories and so on, people tend to tell me their secrets

i dont think anything is impossible to work btw, i think it's a matter of being willing to fail until you get it to work instead of just giving up

i guess i hadnt really thought about any friendships being sexless and it not even being an option

ive had sex/flirted/had things get complicated with nearly all of my friends that ive been around regularly or have gotten close to

i suppose i dont entirely understand friendships not going there naturally eventually

you do have a hard chart i wont lie, your 2 major benefics are getting hit hard by malefics and saturn is in some rough areas too

but it's not all bad

as for the death thing, uranus is in my 8th pluto is on my ic

recently lost my fiancee's sister who was like a sibling/our kid, there were points where we raised her

only person who will probably ever call me "dad" died on father's day

so i get you there...

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You may have a point about Saturn since it is exactly on the 8th H cusp it is opposite my 2nd H cusp. So I can see even though I don't want to how Saturn could affect my 2nd H.
However I don't think Saturn opposite Jupiter is an aspect with strentgh at all, it's almost 10 orbs wide. I don't relate to what I read about Saturn-Jupiter opposition. I didn't tend to dream big and have expectations. I had one simple dream and that was to find a job so that I could live by my own and always have food so I didn't need to worry about it. That is the only dream I ever had and I tried to make it come true. I wasn't ever very optimistic but I had that hope that I would make it because it was a realistic goal that most of human beings grown up in a country like mine (meaning not a very poor one where people are starving and do not have the basics) could achieve. Just a normal salary that could afford me to live on my own. But even that wasn't possible.

It is very interesting what you're saying about instabillity. I have the same problem with everything in my life. Nothing is stable (well nothing positive) everytime I start feeling safe about something (no matter what it is) something external will happen to ruin it. It's mind blowing what can happen out of nowhere just to make my life even more difficult both emotionally and practically.
All my life is a failure, I don't know how much more should I fail, I am tired of failing and trying for simple things so much more than the average person. I don't care anymore, I just want to find a way to make some money in order to be able to have food and that's it, but even that is too much to ask I guess.

I am a bit confused about your relationship. It is an open one right? And you had sex with others while being in that open relationship. So since it's open there can be no cheating but why do you say that you never cheated?

Friendships and platonic relationships are not the same. When I say platonic relationships I mean we were like we would almost be if we were in a normal relationships except there is not sex.

Unfortunately I agree, cheating is something so common yet majority of people really suffer when it happens to them. I wish people could keep it in their pants.

Did that transit brought other major losses that time?
I am asking because I've lost my dad, my best friend (same age as me) and the only uncle I loved so much. So the three men I've loved theost in my life (actually the only ones I loved that much) all died and the females I loved the most I lost them too but not literally. They are just not in my life anymore for different reasons each.
So the 5 people I've loved the most they were my soft spots are all gone in one way or another. It is shocking to me that a Pluto transit through my 7th H would cause massive amounts of losses that would cause me so much pain. It seems even more weird that it was those five people particularly. I mean I can't imagine what will happen when T.Pluto will be in my 8th H conjucting natal Saturn, probably near with my Saturn Return.. lol

Do you see smthing good in my chart or you're saying that not everything is bad just to make me kind of feel better?

posted October 20, 2018 09:58 AM            

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You may have a point about Saturn since it is exactly on the 8th H cusp it is opposite my 2nd H cusp. So I can see even though I don't want to how Saturn could affect my 2nd H.
However I don't think Saturn opposite Jupiter is an aspect with strentgh at all, it's almost 10 orbs wide. I don't relate to what I read about Saturn-Jupiter opposition. I didn't tend to dream big and have expectations. I had one simple dream and that was to find a job so that I could live by my own and always have food so I didn't need to worry about it. That is the only dream I ever had and I tried to make it come true. I wasn't ever very optimistic but I had that hope that I would make it because it was a realistic goal that most of human beings grown up in a country like mine (meaning not a very poor one where people are starving and do not have the basics) could achieve. Just a normal salary that could afford me to live on my own. But even that wasn't possible.

It is very interesting what you're saying about instabillity. I have the same problem with everything in my life. Nothing is stable (well nothing positive) everytime I start feeling safe about something (no matter what it is) something external will happen to ruin it. It's mind blowing what can happen out of nowhere just to make my life even more difficult both emotionally and practically.
All my life is a failure, I don't know how much more should I fail, I am tired of failing and trying for simple things so much more than the average person. I don't care anymore, I just want to find a way to make some money in order to be able to have food and that's it, but even that is too much to ask I guess.

I am a bit confused about your relationship. It is an open one right? And you had sex with others while being in that open relationship. So since it's open there can be no cheating but why do you say that you never cheated?

Friendships and platonic relationships are not the same. When I say platonic relationships I mean we were like we would almost be if we were in a normal relationships except there is not sex.

Unfortunately I agree, cheating is something so common yet majority of people really suffer when it happens to them. I wish people could keep it in their pants.

Did that transit brought other major losses that time?
I am asking because I've lost my dad, my best friend (same age as me) and the only uncle I loved so much. So the three men I've loved theost in my life (actually the only ones I loved that much) all died and the females I loved the most I lost them too but not literally. They are just not in my life anymore for different reasons each.
So the 5 people I've loved the most they were my soft spots are all gone in one way or another. It is shocking to me that a Pluto transit through my 7th H would cause massive amounts of losses that would cause me so much pain. It seems even more weird that it was those five people particularly. I mean I can't imagine what will happen when T.Pluto will be in my 8th H conjucting natal Saturn, probably near with my Saturn Return.. lol

Do you see smthing good in my chart or you're saying that not everything is bad just to make me kind of feel better?

Because the only thing I really see as good in my chart is that trio which is afflicted by Pluto. Somewhere I read that Pluto Jupiter hard aspect are wealth indicating aspects.. However I know it won't ever happen. lol
I guess I'm trying to find some hope when it comes to money even though I know what's going to happen in reality.

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like i said the 8th house just affecting the 2nd is more of a vedic thing, but i've noticed it can apply especially when western falls short of explaining a significant pattern in someone's life

i look at charts with both systems in mind because they both can make up for the other's weaknesses

that being said what you're saying sounds simple, but it often isn't

there are many people in many countries that can't afford all of those things on their own without a struggle

it's in many ways a very simple, but also unrealistic dream given the current climate for most people

so when you say that and i hold it up against reality a lot of people struggle with it

just saying...

as for failure i've messed up a lot, but i mean... is what it is, no sense in wallowing in it when you have to keep moving forward anyway

life doesn't stop for feelings or doubts, no reason for you to either

besides failure is normal, everybody fails at things you just keep going until you find the right combination of things that work for you

maybe it'll take you longer than someone else, but so?

i'm sorry for your losses, she's the only person i've lost but she was also 24 and the first person i've been that close to who i've lost

like i said, there were points where my fiancee and i raised her

and when i'd get kicked out of my house and have to stay at hers i used to help her sister with her homework and that sort of thing

so it was a hard loss even though i knew it was coming because my fiancee and i both dreamt of it and that's all it couldve meant

anyway as for cheating, i think that sort of thing is defined by individuals within a relationship

everyone has different boundaries and laying them out and respecting them is important

so when i say i havent cheated i mean i havent crossed the boundaries laid down

when you live with someone and your life is with them longterm there's ways to be respectful when it comes to relationships with other people and loyalty still comes into play

who you're coming home to and waking up beside and so on

as an adult i've only had a handful of friends i haven't had sex with if i'm going to be honest

and the ones i haven't have had very not platonic feelings from at least the other person's direction so i'm not used to things being any other way

i've had friendships end either after sex or after feelings were expressed, and i don't really understand what having friends who wouldn't be into that is

of the 2 i havent had sex with one is always touchy with me and has expressed interest but i havent known her long and she was with someone when i met her

the other... we all flirt with each other and my fiancee and i have had sex with her in the same room in her bed

it didnt occur to me people really had friendships where that wasnt a thing or a possibility

mostly because i smoke weed all the time and wasnt thinking

i said there were good things because there always are, that's just life and if you don't see them you aren't taking any time to appreciate them

maybe sometimes there won't be anything else that's good about a day other than a really nice sunrise, but you got to experience something pleasant right? there's a lot of beauty and things worth appreciating everywhere, if you can't see it you aren't looking

and i understand being in a place where you can't see it, that's just something a lot of people go through

but you don't have to wallow in it and make that your entire future just because it's been your past

where youre at now isn't necessarily any indicator of where you'll be in the future, a lot can happen in a short amount of time

posted October 21, 2018 05:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
like i said the 8th house just affecting the 2nd is more of a vedic thing, but i've noticed it can apply especially when western falls short of explaining a significant pattern in someone's life

i look at charts with both systems in mind because they both can make up for the other's weaknesses

that being said what you're saying sounds simple, but it often isn't

there are many people in many countries that can't afford all of those things on their own without a struggle

it's in many ways a very simple, but also unrealistic dream given the current climate for most people

so when you say that and i hold it up against reality a lot of people struggle with it

just saying...

as for failure i've messed up a lot, but i mean... is what it is, no sense in wallowing in it when you have to keep moving forward anyway

life doesn't stop for feelings or doubts, no reason for you to either

besides failure is normal, everybody fails at things you just keep going until you find the right combination of things that work for you

maybe it'll take you longer than someone else, but so?

i'm sorry for your losses, she's the only person i've lost but she was also 24 and the first person i've been that close to who i've lost

like i said, there were points where my fiancee and i raised her

and when i'd get kicked out of my house and have to stay at hers i used to help her sister with her homework and that sort of thing

so it was a hard loss even though i knew it was coming because my fiancee and i both dreamt of it and that's all it couldve meant

anyway as for cheating, i think that sort of thing is defined by individuals within a relationship

everyone has different boundaries and laying them out and respecting them is important

so when i say i havent cheated i mean i havent crossed the boundaries laid down

when you live with someone and your life is with them longterm there's ways to be respectful when it comes to relationships with other people and loyalty still comes into play

who you're coming home to and waking up beside and so on

as an adult i've only had a handful of friends i haven't had sex with if i'm going to be honest

and the ones i haven't have had very not platonic feelings from at least the other person's direction so i'm not used to things being any other way

i've had friendships end either after sex or after feelings were expressed, and i don't really understand what having friends who wouldn't be into that is

of the 2 i havent had sex with one is always touchy with me and has expressed interest but i havent known her long and she was with someone when i met her

the other... we all flirt with each other and my fiancee and i have had sex with her in the same room in her bed

it didnt occur to me people really had friendships where that wasnt a thing or a possibility

mostly because i smoke weed all the time and wasnt thinking

i said there were good things because there always are, that's just life and if you don't see them you aren't taking any time to appreciate them

maybe sometimes there won't be anything else that's good about a day other than a really nice sunrise, but you got to experience something pleasant right? there's a lot of beauty and things worth appreciating everywhere, if you can't see it you aren't looking

and i understand being in a place where you can't see it, that's just something a lot of people go through

but you don't have to wallow in it and make that your entire future just because it's been your past

where youre at now isn't necessarily any indicator of where you'll be in the future, a lot can happen in a short amount of time

for better or worse, but sometimes one looks like the other shortterm and isn't ultimately

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I won't say much because I agree with you theoritically with most of what you said (except of cheating, I understand the way you see it but when I say cheating I mean the classic kind of cheating)
Based on experience and logic though I know that nothing will be much better in the future actually. It's been many years, almost ten. Even before I wasn't that good but still better since the people I loved were alive and I didn't have health problems. None of these can be undone.

Anyway, I am shocked that you never had pure friendships, like a girl that you see as a sister for example.

Since you mentioned weed, I wanted to ask you before if you're doing drugs?

I am so curious to see your chart.
I sense Aries, Libra and Virgo in you.
I would choose Aries Moon because if your Sun, Mercury or Mars was in Aries you would emit that Aries vibe which bothers me. I can't explain it, I just sense it. Aries squares my Sun, Mercury, ASC,Neptune, Uranus, North Node, Juno and Lilith. Of course same goes for Libra but even though we are so different with Libras they don't get on my nerves like only Aries do.

So it must be Aries Moon?
From what you're saying it would make sense if you are an Aries Moon which is not a good sign for Moon and is also ruled by Mars which makes much sense to me. Speaking of your Mars it must be in a strong sign anyway (Aries/Capricorn/Scorpio).
However I will be very shocked if you have water Moon or Mars even Venus.. Actually I will be shocked if you have personal planet (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Mars) in water signs. So I take it back about your Mars being in Scorpio which leaves us with Aries and Capricorn.. As I said before though I would find you kind of repulsive in a way I can't explain if you had Sun/Mercury/Mars in Aries so it's only Capricorn left for your Mars.
I wouldn't put Libra or Virgo as your Mars sign because they are both weak in there and none actually fits with how you're describing your love-sex life.
So I have to put Virgo and Libra somewhere just because I sense those 2 from you.
Your Venus should be in an air sign Libra, Aqua or Gemini. However I find Gemini almost unlikely. So Aqua or Libra Venus is a 50-50 for me I might choose Libra though just because I sense Libra as I said but I have no other reason, both Aqua and Libra would fit very well imo.
Now your Mercury is the most confusing to me.
I like the way you speak and you express yourself even if I don't agree or feel the same as you. That leaves me with many options though (excluding all water signs and Aries as I said, I also exclude Taurus, Gemini and Sag) So we are left with Virgo, Leo, Libra and Aqua. I exclude Aqua though because the way you speak is not Aquarian.
Now here is my problem, I kind of exclude Libra and I am leaning more to Virgo and Leo.
Mercury is strong in Virgo but Mercury in Leo makes conjuction in with my Venus, Mars and Jup. You know you could also be a Libra Sun with Mercury in Virgo or a Leo Sun with Mercury in Virgo or Virgo Sun with Mercury in Leo. That way you would have both Virgo and Libra in your chart.
I can not guess your Sun sign at all. The Sun signs I mentioned above I am guessing based on your mist possible Mercury signs.

I am obsessively thinking about your chart for an hour and a half.
I am so curious to see it.
I will be so shocked if you have water personal planets especially Moon/Mars. And I will be very disappointed if you don't have Libra somewhere in your chart plus a weak Moon in Aries/Libra not even Aqua/Sag let alone Leo Moon. Third possible Moon sign for you might be Gemini but I don't sense Gemini at all in you.

Please if you have water planets in your chart send me a fake natal chart without water planets lol. I will be so disappointed.

I just realised I am sitting here thinking about your chart and possible combinations for an hour and a half lol.

posted October 21, 2018 05:56 PM            

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I won't say much because I agree with you theoritically with most of what you said (except of cheating, I understand the way you see it but when I say cheating I mean the classic kind of cheating)
Based on experience and logic though I know that nothing will be much better in the future actually. It's been many years, almost ten. Even before I wasn't that good but still better since the people I loved were alive and I didn't have health problems. None of these can be undone.

Anyway, I am shocked that you never had pure friendships, like a girl that you see as a sister for example.

Since you mentioned weed, I wanted to ask you before if you're doing drugs?

I am so curious to see your chart.
I sense Aries, Libra and Virgo in you.
I would choose Aries Moon because if your Sun, Mercury or Mars was in Aries you would emit that Aries vibe which bothers me. I can't explain it, I just sense it. Aries squares my Sun, Mercury, ASC,Neptune, Uranus, North Node, Juno and Lilith. Of course same goes for Libra but even though we are so different with Libras they don't get on my nerves like only Aries do.

So it must be Aries Moon?
From what you're saying it would make sense if you are an Aries Moon which is not a good sign for Moon and is also ruled by Mars which makes much sense to me. Speaking of your Mars it must be in a strong sign anyway (Aries/Capricorn/Scorpio).
However I will be very shocked if you have water Moon or Mars even Venus.. Actually I will be shocked if you have personal planet (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Mars) in water signs. So I take it back about your Mars being in Scorpio which leaves us with Aries and Capricorn.. As I said before though I would find you kind of repulsive in a way I can't explain if you had Sun/Mercury/Mars in Aries so it's only Capricorn left for your Mars.
I wouldn't put Libra or Virgo as your Mars sign because they are both weak in there and none actually fits with how you're describing your love-sex life.
So I have to put Virgo and Libra somewhere just because I sense those 2 from you.
Your Venus should be in an air sign Libra, Aqua or Gemini. However I find Gemini almost unlikely. So Aqua or Libra Venus is a 50-50 for me I might choose Libra though just because I sense Libra as I said but I have no other reason, both Aqua and Libra would fit very well imo.
Now your Mercury is the most confusing to me.
I like the way you speak and you express yourself even if I don't agree or feel the same as you. That leaves me with many options though (excluding all water signs and Aries as I said, I also exclude Taurus, Gemini and Sag) So we are left with Virgo, Leo, Libra and Aqua. I exclude Aqua though because the way you speak is not Aquarian.
Now here is my problem, I kind of exclude Libra and I am leaning more to Virgo and Leo.
Mercury is strong in Virgo but Mercury in Leo makes conjuction in with my Venus, Mars and Jup. You know you could also be a Libra Sun with Mercury in Virgo or a Leo Sun with Mercury in Virgo or Virgo Sun with Mercury in Leo. That way you would have both Virgo and Libra in your chart.
I can not guess your Sun sign at all. The Sun signs I mentioned above I am guessing based on your mist possible Mercury signs.

I am obsessively thinking about your chart for an hour and a half.
I am so curious to see it.
I will be so shocked if you have water personal planets especially Moon/Mars. And I will be very disappointed if you don't have Libra somewhere in your chart plus a weak Moon in Aries/Libra not even Aqua/Sag let alone Leo Moon. Third possible Moon sign for you might be Gemini but I don't sense Gemini at all in you.

Please if you have water planets in your chart send me a fake natal chart without water planets lol. I will be so disappointed.

I just realised I am sitting here thinking about your chart and possible combinations for an hour and a half lol.

If you are uncomfortable answering any of my questions you don't have to of course.

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here's my chart:

https://m.imgur.com/a/UzaSdhr

i'll resppnd to the rest in a second

funny enough though, my sidereal is actually heavily water dominant pisces moon and so on 😂

edit: my mars isnt retrograde btw, the fixed star on it is

the only retrograde planets i have are jupiter, uranus, and neptune

posted October 21, 2018 06:29 PM            

tried to kill myself years ago,not long after i got sick

funny enough chronic illness helped me appreciate life more

i'm not saying life will necessarily get better, just you know maybe your perspective will change

as messed up as this will sound there was a point where i saw my fiancee that way and i still do on some level... in spite of everything else because we grew up together

it's never been a purposeful thing that i haven't had friendships like that it's just how things go

i smoke weed pretty much daily, multiple times a day

acid sometimes, and i drink occasionally

that's been it for a little while

i've had a long history with drug use though most of my life

binges on pills, alcohol, other drugs (ive been addicted to and quit both pcp and heroin at different points in my life)

it's been over a year since i've used heroin, a year since i've used any opiates or pills, almost a year since i last used cocaine, about 10 since pcp ... so i'm doing a lot better than i was

you're good btw with guessing, unless you're full of **** and seen my chart before 😂

posted October 21, 2018 06:33 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
here's my chart:

https://m.imgur.com/a/UzaSdhr

i'll resppnd to the rest in a second

funny enough though, my sidereal is actually heavily water dominant pisces moon and so on 😂

edit: my mars isnt retrograde btw, the fixed star on it is

the only retrograde planets i have are jupiter, uranus, and neptune

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Could you please post another pic of your chart? I can see nothing in the one your posted it is too blurry.

Tbh I don't relate to vedic charts at all.
A few years ago I searched about vedic interepretations and stuff.

I was very dissapointed not only by the signs of the planets (I read their interpretations and if I remember correctly each sign is divided in decans, which aren't called decans in vedic astrology but I fon't remember how they are called) and I found it too general plus important things were missing.
You can understand more than half of my personality and behaviour just by reading aboit my Uranus, Pluto and Neptune aspects and pacements in my chart.
Also whenever I am sensing signs and placements (at least the majority of the times) especially the moon sign just by looking at the eyes of someone, I am not wrong.

I am disappointed that I was so far away from your chart and even more that you are water dominant. It never happened to me to be so wrong when I am sensing smth (I am not saying that I can guess/sense everyone's planets' signs but when I am sensing smth it is usually spot on).

posted October 21, 2018 06:37 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Could you please post another pic of your chart? I can see nothing in the one your posted it is too blurry.

Tbh I don't relate to vedic charts at all.
A few years ago I searched about vedic interepretations and stuff.

I was very dissapointed not only by the signs of the planets (I read their interpretations and if I remember correctly each sign is divided in decans, which aren't called decans in vedic astrology but I fon't remember how they are called) and I found it too general plus important things were missing.
You can understand more than half of my personality and behaviour just by reading aboit my Uranus, Pluto and Neptune aspects and pacements in my chart.
Also whenever I am sensing signs and placements (at least the majority of the times) especially the moon sign just by looking at the eyes of someone, I am not wrong.

I am disappointed that I was so far away from your chart and even more that you are water dominant. It never happened to me to be so wrong when I am sensing smth (I am not saying that I can guess/sense everyone's planets' signs but when I am sensing smth it is usually spot on).

I will probably see your answer tomorrow because I'm very sleepy. I'll sleep very sad and disappointed just so you know. It is my first time guessing smth so wrong

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what? no dont be disappointed

i'm a virgo sun, libra rising (libra venus conjunct ascendant), aries moon, leo mercury, capricorn mars

you couldnt have been more right

sorry about the blurry one btw, my phone is stupid

edit: https://imgur.com/a/4Vvb5pP

my bad this one, doesnt matter if you see where i was born, i dont live there anymore anyway

i just meant it's funny that you cant see any water because while i have almost none in tropical (zero personal planets in a water sign) my sidereal chart is water heavy

posted October 22, 2018 05:38 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
what? no dont be disappointed

i'm a virgo sun, libra rising (libra venus conjunct ascendant), aries moon, leo mercury, capricorn mars

you couldnt have been more right

sorry about the blurry one btw, my phone is stupid

edit: https://imgur.com/a/4Vvb5pP

my bad this one, doesnt matter if you see where i was born, i dont live there anymore anyway

i just meant it's funny that you cant see any water because while i have almost none in tropical (zero personal planets in a water sign) my sidereal chart is water heavy

edit: you were so accurate i figured you were ******* with me 😂

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Heyy!! Good morning

I read the last comment of yours I quoted yesterday completely wrong probably because I was sleepy. (I checked the blurry img again thinking that my vision might have been blurry instead of the pic heheh).
So I thought that your western chart was water dominant and you mentioned that your vedic chart is not in order to kind of make me feel better for sensing lack of water in your chart. That is why I told you about vedic charts.

Anyway I am very happy that I guessed it right and you have no water plus Libra in yoyr chart!
I now get it why I sense Libra so much
Not only your Venus is in Libra which is strong but you have a Libra ASC with Venus conjucting it!
Plus your Mars not only being strong and ruling your Moon but it also rules your 7th H!!

I have no reason to lie to you.
I am not a pro and I don't get money in any way from astrology. Even if I had a reason to I wouldn't do smth like that.
Now I don't know if I have ever seen your chart before, but I definately do not remember it. To be honest I thought you're a new member because it's the first time I see your nickname in here.
I remember many nicknames I see often in here but the only things I remember when it comes to charts of members in here are:
1. Hypatia has Venus and/or Mars in Leo squared by Pluto? (we've talked somewhere about it and i have seen her mentioning it in a few differents threads that's why I remember it)
2. Somna has a Gemini Moon or Venus and Uranus or Neptune or both in 7th H, she/he is 30smth yo and didn't have a relationship.

Now Somna just like you falls in a classic pattern for me.. I don't know how many times by now I've seen threads with members over 25yo asking why they didn't have any relationship and when it's going to happen.
I already know that there are 3 possibilities with Uranus/Saturn in 7th H or ruling the 7th H, Venus on Aqua or Sag and it's always one of these or a combo of these plus an air Moon.
I have it myself and I am very familiar with it. I could go on more about how this works and how it is different for each one depending on the Moon and Venus signs, but that is not the point.

About 11 years ago I started online chatting not because I was interested in dating but because I wanted to guess Mercury/Venus, Moon and ASC signs based on the way they text me, their hobbies, tastes and their pics.
The last 3 years I am not doing it as much as I used to. I don't know how many charts I've seen by now. With some of those men the conversation would go deeper they would open up especially after me interpreting their charts and I could learn many private/weird things that I don't think I would otherwise.

Yours falls in one of these patterns.
First of all I went with what I was strongly sensing in your chart. 1 is lack of water, 2 is Libra vibes, 3 a weak Moon that is very different from me and that's smth I feel with people who have Aries/Libra/Aqua Moon 4. You should have a strong Mars since you're a man and of course because of the way you are describing me your relationships and sex life (which was also what made me decide about your Moon and lack of water too).

I love how your Moon is conjuct DSC (the house of others) and your Venus conjuct your ASC. I think that is part of why they are so obvious, it would be more difficult if your Venus had major aspects by external planets or was in your 12th H for example.

I wasn't good at guessing your Mercury though but at least in this case I see your Mercury and 3rd H have many different flavors in your chart.

I wish I didn't forget to write about smth else I had thought.
I was thinking yesterday that you should have Jupiter in 5th or 8th H. The more I thought about it the more I excluded the 8th H Jupiter posibility because 8th H is deep sex/intimacy unlike 5th H that is more about casual/fun sex unless you have Pluto or Saturn in it or ruling it.

I also thought about Aqua/Uranus DSC but even though it makes sense theoritically I don't see it work like that practically I also ended up that you may have Aqua 5th H or Uranus in it.

Your chart is so fullfiling, it's exaclty like it should look like in irder to make sense (based on what you said).

If you were a girl you could also have an Aries/Libra Moon but your Mars should be weak in Libra or Pisces preferably but not Cancer which is a weak placement for Mars too but to emotional, even though Pisces is water and emotional too it can act like you in a girl's chart for multiple reasons.

So a weak Moon and weak Mars for women a weak Moon and strong Mars for men. There are a few other patterns I've noticed leading to different thoughts/behaviors etc

I'll stop here, I am all over the place and if I keep going I won't stop lol.

I asked you about drug use because anyone I know like you when it comes to sex has has used drugs (heavier than weed). Not saying that there are no non drug users who have
similar experiences (your chart alone is enough for me) but what I am saying is that everyone I hapoen to know or heard of having these sexual life on a daily basis was a heavy drug user at some point. And it makes much sense if you think how drugs changes the mind (sorry for my English but I hope you'll understand how I mean it). All seem to need some kind of "help" (drugs or at least alcohol) to do it. Anyway this is a huge topic that I don't want to discuss because of my bad English. I know I won't be able to express my thoughts as acurately as I would like to.

It made me so sad when I read all the drugs you used and especially heroin (well at least that sounded the worst but I don't know how dangerous each of the drugs you mentioned is).

I hope that you'll stay away from it. You definately know all that typical stuff like how it's bad for you and how you're hurting both yourelf and others who care about you.

as messed up as this will sound there was a point where i saw my fiancee that way and i still do on some level... in spite of everything else because we grew up together
Could you explain this a bit more? I din't understand in what way you saw your fiancee?

Also you said you got sick? Do you want to tell me what kimd of sickness it was?

** I forgot to mention that I when I was guessing your natal chart placements I had in my mind that your Moon, Mars and Venus should not have harmonius aspects. Also even thought what you've said could be heavy Sag/Aqua theoritically in reality Aqya especially is more reserved tgan what it's suppised to maybe because it's a fixed sign.

EDIT: I don't remember if I already said it, but when I said about my North Node, Neptune and Uranus in 7th H beong an impossible astromix I wanted to brin the example of Aries NN in 7th H (of Libra) which means Libra SN in 1st H (of Aries). And there you have it ahhah

posted October 22, 2018 07:59 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Heyy!! Good morning

I read the last comment of yours I quoted yesterday completely wrong probably because I was sleepy. (I checked the blurry img again thinking that my vision might have been blurry instead of the pic heheh).
So I thought that your western chart was water dominant and you mentioned that your vedic chart is not in order to kind of make me feel better for sensing lack of water in your chart. That is why I told you about vedic charts.

Anyway I am very happy that I guessed it right and you have no water plus Libra in yoyr chart!
I now get it why I sense Libra so much
Not only your Venus is in Libra which is strong but you have a Libra ASC with Venus conjucting it!
Plus your Mars not only being strong and ruling your Moon but it also rules your 7th H!!

I have no reason to lie to you.
I am not a pro and I don't get money in any way from astrology. Even if I had a reason to I wouldn't do smth like that.
Now I don't know if I have ever seen your chart before, but I definately do not remember it. To be honest I thought you're a new member because it's the first time I see your nickname in here.
I remember many nicknames I see often in here but the only things I remember when it comes to charts of members in here are:
1. Hypatia has Venus and/or Mars in Leo squared by Pluto? (we've talked somewhere about it and i have seen her mentioning it in a few differents threads that's why I remember it)
2. Somna has a Gemini Moon or Venus and Uranus or Neptune or both in 7th H, she/he is 30smth yo and didn't have a relationship.

Now Somna just like you falls in a classic pattern for me.. I don't know how many times by now I've seen threads with members over 25yo asking why they didn't have any relationship and when it's going to happen.
I already know that there are 3 possibilities with Uranus/Saturn in 7th H or ruling the 7th H, Venus on Aqua or Sag and it's always one of these or a combo of these plus an air Moon.
I have it myself and I am very familiar with it. I could go on more about how this works and how it is different for each one depending on the Moon and Venus signs, but that is not the point.

About 11 years ago I started online chatting not because I was interested in dating but because I wanted to guess Mercury/Venus, Moon and ASC signs based on the way they text me, their hobbies, tastes and their pics.
The last 3 years I am not doing it as much as I used to. I don't know how many charts I've seen by now. With some of those men the conversation would go deeper they would open up especially after me interpreting their charts and I could learn many private/weird things that I don't think I would otherwise.

Yours falls in one of these patterns.
First of all I went with what I was strongly sensing in your chart. 1 is lack of water, 2 is Libra vibes, 3 a weak Moon that is very different from me and that's smth I feel with people who have Aries/Libra/Aqua Moon 4. You should have a strong Mars since you're a man and of course because of the way you are describing me your relationships and sex life (which was also what made me decide about your Moon and lack of water too).

I love how your Moon is conjuct DSC (the house of others) and your Venus conjuct your ASC. I think that is part of why they are so obvious, it would be more difficult if your Venus had major aspects by external planets or was in your 12th H for example.

I wasn't good at guessing your Mercury though but at least in this case I see your Mercury and 3rd H have many different flavors in your chart.

I wish I didn't forget to write about smth else I had thought.
I was thinking yesterday that you should have Jupiter in 5th or 8th H. The more I thought about it the more I excluded the 8th H Jupiter posibility because 8th H is deep sex/intimacy unlike 5th H that is more about casual/fun sex unless you have Pluto or Saturn in it or ruling it.

I also thought about Aqua/Uranus DSC but even though it makes sense theoritically I don't see it work like that practically I also ended up that you may have Aqua 5th H or Uranus in it.

Your chart is so fullfiling, it's exaclty like it should look like in irder to make sense (based on what you said).

If you were a girl you could also have an Aries/Libra Moon but your Mars should be weak in Libra or Pisces preferably but not Cancer which is a weak placement for Mars too but to emotional, even though Pisces is water and emotional too it can act like you in a girl's chart for multiple reasons.

So a weak Moon and weak Mars for women a weak Moon and strong Mars for men. There are a few other patterns I've noticed leading to different thoughts/behaviors etc

I'll stop here, I am all over the place and if I keep going I won't stop lol.

I asked you about drug use because anyone I know like you when it comes to sex has has used drugs (heavier than weed). Not saying that there are no non drug users who have
similar experiences (your chart alone is enough for me) but what I am saying is that everyone I hapoen to know or heard of having these sexual life on a daily basis was a heavy drug user at some point. And it makes much sense if you think how drugs changes the mind (sorry for my English but I hope you'll understand how I mean it). All seem to need some kind of "help" (drugs or at least alcohol) to do it. Anyway this is a huge topic that I don't want to discuss because of my bad English. I know I won't be able to express my thoughts as acurately as I would like to.

It made me so sad when I read all the drugs you used and especially heroin (well at least that sounded the worst but I don't know how dangerous each of the drugs you mentioned is).

I hope that you'll stay away from it. You definately know all that typical stuff like how it's bad for you and how you're hurting both yourelf and others who care about you.

[b]as messed up as this will sound there was a point where i saw my fiancee that way and i still do on some level... in spite of everything else because we grew up together
Could you explain this a bit more? I din't understand in what way you saw your fiancee?

Also you said you got sick? Do you want to tell me what kimd of sickness it was?

** I forgot to mention that I when I was guessing your natal chart placements I had in my mind that your Moon, Mars and Venus should not have harmonius aspects. Also even thought what you've said could be heavy Sag/Aqua theoritically in reality Aqya especially is more reserved tgan what it's suppised to maybe because it's a fixed sign.

EDIT: I don't remember if I already said it, but when I said about my North Node, Neptune and Uranus in 7th H beong an impossible astromix I wanted to brin the example of Aries NN in 7th H (of Libra) which means Libra SN in 1st H (of Aries). And there you have it ahhah

** You have Saturn in 2nd H ?!?! Are you struggling financially?[/B]

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no i just found it funny that you listed my western placements then said that since the opposite is true in the other system

people usually notice the libra more often than anything else, youre the first to ever guess my sun (granted it wasnt your only guess)

i don't mind it when people ramble, it's intriguing anyway considering you've been more right about me than anyone else has been

with the drug use i've been my version of "clean" for a little while

so weed, acid, occasional other things nothing ive had any serious issues with (more recently it was molly) not counting legal stuff like kratom, nicotine, alcohol though i also use all of those

but mostly just weed at this point with acid as frequently as possible

my fiancee is the only person i've had sex with while sober, and the first few years we were together (this halloween is our 14 year anniversary) i'd say probably about 50% of the sex we had i was sober for and then around 22 the drug use was more of a thing

not to say it hadn't been already, by then i had a few month long pain killer binges and so on (i was 15 when i first started using opiates, 13 for alcohol, younger than that for stuff i don't really count even though technically...)

heroin was a bad time, not at first, at first it was great and then it rapidly wasnt... which is of course how that tends to go, so no surprises there i guess

but i locked myself in the apartment we were living in at the time (fiancee and i, we've lived together for 13 years at this point) and drank a lot of nyquil and took handfuls of benadryl to take the edge off the withdrawal and about a week later we moved to get away

used an oxy once since then, february will make 2 years clean

that was part of my saturn return

i've used a lot of things that could kill me, in combinations that were terrible to a point where i'm pretty amazed i'm not dead (i had nights where i would take heroin with coke and then pop xanax,pain killers, muscle relaxers, and drink smoke weed etc all at once... im not a big guy at all and i'd have other people using with me who would get scared sometimes watching me use)

i've had plenty of those nights where i've felt my blood pressure drop and ive felt like if i didnt stay awake i would die because ive taken too much, but still here so it's fine

i just meant i saw my fiancee as a sister in a sense for a while before we started dating because we were close friends from a young age and spent a lot of time in each other's houses depending on who was kicked out of theirs etc stay out all night together when neither of us could go home etc (she's a sag sun conjunct saturn and uranus, aquarius rising, aries moon, scorpio mercury and venus with venus conjunct pluto, and a pisces mars conjunct jupiter)

it's why i turned her down when she first told me she was in love with me even though we had moments where things had happened between us already

but well she isnt my sister...

i got lyme disease about 6 years ago, and it ended up just completely ******* me up in a lot of ways so i have permanent damage from that and i'm sure drug use before and since hasnt helped and some other stuff complications from that

i'm alright with my relationship, even with all its ups and downs it's more stable than thanything else has been

edit: forgot to respond to the saturn thing

i've had a lot of ups and downs with money and stability

happens with drug use and so on, but i'd say the 2nd house pluto in whole sign is more fitting

though first house isnt entirely wrong since i've noticed the way people are drawn to me and i do get extreme reactions sometimes

people very rarely feel anything neutral towards me

also i'm impressed, you got every placement, first time anyone ever has

my sun in particular is one that never gets mentioned and no one's ever guessed virgo

posted October 22, 2018 08:38 AM            

i only half read everything, same as yesterday

i don't really care either way tbh, entertaining for a time regardless

anyway

when i look at charts or just life in general i see good and bad **** , but life keeps going and you either wallow in it or you get over it and keep going too

and even when things are terrible there's still ways to have fun and be happy (not just talking drugs or sex, in my life they've also been what's made things terrible or annoyingly complicated... there were points when i was on heroin where i would actually cry about using it right before i did it and i'm not one to really cry)

me trying to kill myself was an impulsive thing in all honesty, when it didnt work out i just got drunk and had sex instead of trying again and just pretended nothing happened

i didnt even mention it for years because it seemed pointless and all i got out of it was life goes on and feelings fade even extreme ones like wanting everything to stop

and in that sense they dont really matter at all past how much weight you put on them

or whatever moment youre experiencing them, but once that's over eh

i dont really get it when people dwell on failures or disappointments or problems all the time when there's a lot of other **** that's more stimulating and better to do and no matter what you're stuck here til youre not unless you take yourself out may as well enjoy it

and that's with or without company, i can have a one person party, more people are just a better time

edit: my bad, i just said a few things

posted October 22, 2018 11:09 AM            

To me it isn't that surprising that I guessed some placements correct. I was shocked when I read that you have water dominant chart, I felt like my Pisces Moon betrayed me on a sneaky way. I read that your chart was water dominant but your vedic one not. I was half asleep so I had the right to read whatever I wanted to.

It was my first thought as I woke up, I feel like I was thinking about it even in my sleep.

I wouldn't have been disappointed if you had for example Aqua or even Sag Venus (although it was even less possible) but it would make sense. But having water in your chart??? No no no no no no just NO!

I didn't technically found your Sun, I couldn't sense it, I generally have a problem when it comes to Sun signs, I am good at Moon and ASC, then Venus depending on someone's hobbies how he loves or liked to be loved etc. Mars is even harder unless there is smth that really hits me.

But I thought your Mercury would be in Virgo which would give you Leo/Virgo/Libra Sun but I definately excluded Leo. I thought that you would be Libra Sun with Mercury in Virgo, I didn't exclude Leo Mercury just because I had no reason to do so.

Capricorn Mars is my favorite Mars sign (I didn't sense it in you I just went by the logic I explained there)

After reading what you've done to yourself I am shocked, sad and I also wanna slap you.

You must be very charming.
• Venus in Libra conjuct your ASC (Libra ASc at least im women is one of the most beautiful ASCs and you have a triple dose there)
• Pluto in 1st H (I don't yhink I need to say smth about this)
• Mars in Capricorn (This is the best Mars ever and it took me almost 26 years to find it out! I thought all these years that Mars in Scorpio was the best but I haven't met any Mars in Capricorn until then.. What a big mistake)
• Mars square Venus (makes the person charming too)

Even if you are ugly af you must be very charming
But don't waste that Mars anymore.

Something I didn't think of yesterday while guessing your placements is that your Moon,Venus and Mars are square and conjuct my Neptune and Uranus plus they fall in my angular houses. So that might be the reason I am sensing these ones so clearly while I had a harder time deciding your Mercury and Sun.
Since your 3rd H has a few different planets it and Mercury falls in your 10th H? So I am not disappointing for not figuring it out.

I am glad that you had sex sober just with your fiancee (I guessed that you would have with very few people sober)

That lyme disease though, I just googled it because I didn't know how serious it can be. You said that it f***** you up so I guess you didn't realised that you had it early enough.
What are the permament health problems it caused you?

posted October 22, 2018 11:47 AM            

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i dont really get it when people dwell on failures or disappointments or problems all the time when there's a lot of other **** that's more stimulating and better to do and no matter what you're stuck here til youre not unless you take yourself out may as well enjoy it

and that's with or without company, i can have a one person party, more people are just a better time

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Well.. here is the difference in our Moon signs. First of all you mentioned before that every feeling will at sime time pass. I agree, however there are impulsive people whose feeling change rapidly and there are people whose feelings may take years and years to change. So that depends on the person. In the first case yeah feelings do not matter that much meaning that they will quickly chamge anyway so they aren't to be taken that seriously. In the second case though things are completely different.

Even if I pretend to ignore the pain I still feel it deep inside, it just weighs me, I know theoritically life goes on.
On the other hand I can't understand how you ruined yourself for no reason. I wouldn't do that even now that my life sucks after so many years. Why would you do that to yourself? Create problems out of nowhere that took you so many years to fix.

I am almost sure that you if you didn't do drugs you would be able to understand better.

Once I was drugged for a test. However the doctor didn't have the regular drugs and he gave me smth much stronger than he should.
I don't know what it was (I don't think it was heavy stuff) but for 5-6 hours straight I was completely lost, feeling happy and peaceful just by staring a wall. I didn't give a damn about anything and anyone in the world. At some point before arriving at home I saw some trash bags on a pavement with some dogsh*t on it.. I told my mom " Wooow this so beautiful in an artistic way" lol. My mom was so freaked out that day. It was the happiest time of my life :'( So I can imagine how good drugs could make you feel but it's not the way to go. It's a fake happiness and it will cause you way more problems than it will ever solve. So I prefer ugly reality than the beautiful lie.

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i knew something happened i just have a terrible attention span and im rarely sober (usually just weed) in all honesty[/B]

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Please explain this a little.
What do you mean by "I said a few things"
and
"I knew smth happened"
What happened?

posted October 22, 2018 11:51 AM            

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I checked the thread and I couldn't find your chart. Where did you find it?

To me it isn't that surprising that I guessed some placements correct. I was shocked when I read that you have water dominant chart, I felt like my Pisces Moon betrayed me on a sneaky way. I read that your chart was water dominant but your vedic one not. I was half asleep so I had the right to read whatever I wanted to.

It was my first thought as I woke up, I feel like I was thinking about it even in my sleep.

I wouldn't have been disappointed if you had for example Aqua or even Sag Venus (although it was even less possible) but it would make sense. But having water in your chart??? No no no no no no just NO!

I didn't technically found your Sun, I couldn't sense it, I generally have a problem when it comes to Sun signs, I am good at Moon and ASC, then Venus depending on someone's hobbies how he loves or liked to be loved etc. Mars is even harder unless there is smth that really hits me.

But I thought your Mercury would be in Virgo which would give you Leo/Virgo/Libra Sun but I definately excluded Leo. I thought that you would be Libra Sun with Mercury in Virgo, I didn't exclude Leo Mercury just because I had no reason to do so.

Capricorn Mars is my favorite Mars sign (I didn't sense it in you I just went by the logic I explained there)

After reading what you've done to yourself I am shocked, sad and I also wanna slap you.

You must be very charming.
• Venus in Libra conjuct your ASC (Libra ASc at least im women is one of the most beautiful ASCs and you have a triple dose there)
• Pluto in 1st H (I don't yhink I need to say smth about this)
• Mars in Capricorn (This is the best Mars ever and it took me almost 26 years to find it out! I thought all these years that Mars in Scorpio was the best but I haven't met any Mars in Capricorn until then.. What a big mistake)
• Mars square Venus (makes the person charming too)

Even if you are ugly af you must be very charming
But don't waste that Mars anymore.

Something I didn't think of yesterday while guessing your placements is that your Moon,Venus and Mars are square and conjuct my Neptune and Uranus plus they fall in my angular houses. So that might be the reason I am sensing these ones so clearly while I had a harder time deciding your Mercury and Sun.
Since your 3rd H has a few different planets it and Mercury falls in your 10th H? So I am not disappointing for not figuring it out.

I am glad that you had sex sober just with your fiancee (I guessed that you would have with very few people sober)

That lyme disease though, I just googled it because I didn't know how serious it can be. You said that it f***** you up so I guess you didn't realised that you had it early enough.
What are the permament health problems it caused you?

We will all die at some point and I feel that it will be the best part of my life. However since we will die anyway I prefer living a wasted life until that time comes instead of
dying earlier and causing pain to others who care about you while you are able to not do it.

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i noticed us talking about it, realized i mentioned placements

it isnt uncommon for me to only barely pay attention to things

people always tell me i'm attractive, i'm not really my own type but i'd have a good time with me 😂

i've heard every male and female synonym for "hot" come from people, to the point where sometimes it just feels awkward

my fiancee's told me my looks are better than my personality, and i can't tell if she's joking or not but she's usually pretty honest whether it's nice or not

well at least i'm not entirely transparent you did mention every placement though

i'd be fine with you slapping me, but if you go for the face you'd have to get both sides and make it even 😂

im actually not sure i could be sober with anyone else, she's different, but we were each other's first and both sober that time anyway

idk if i could with anyone else while sober i havent tried but no one i've been with i guess except her

there's a lot of issues leftover from lyme, not really up for writing the list that's just depressing and i don't feel like complaining right now anyway so it wont even be cathartic

well i guess whether or not a life is wasted is subjective, and i figure anything could happen to me at any time because that's life too

fate and all that, may as well have fun

i don't mean to worry other people, but i also just don't really tell them things and when i do i just mix it in with jokes so it's all good

can't live your life just for other people anyway, not ultimately, they won't and can't for you and vice versa

you just do what you can when you can for them but that's moments you know? they come and go

and whatever pain is caused with death people heal with time anyway, it's not like there's a difference between me getting hit by a car crossing the street or me od'ing somewhere etc etc etc you know? it's not that big of a deal in the long run for anyone how it happens just that it does and then time goes on and so does life... just how it is whether that's a pretty reality or not

i dont do the things i do thinking about death i do them because i like to feel and experience a lot of different things at once because life

and then you know that one time... but i didnt try again, seemed pointless, i always figure now when i feel like killing myself i'll wait and see how i feel the next day because permanent decisions are probably better to make when you feel things for a while, consistently and can prepare etc

posted October 22, 2018 12:06 PM            

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everything you wrote

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fair enough, though... wouldnt they change quicker if you decided they didnt matter sooner? that's how it works for me, some stuff stays a little while but it has to get around to resurfacing if it does

but i get what you're saying

curiosity and liking to feel new things mostly is how that went... it isn't like i went into it thinking about ******* my life up things just happened along the way, and i'm alright with the experiences i've had and myself ultimately

i've had some good times and i've met some interesting people and experienced a lot of strange things and what else is life about really? mine anyway, yours is different, so is everyone's

drugs are an enjoyable sensation, like meditation or sex or an adrenaline rush etc it's not about making myself happy i know they wont make me happy thats not why i use them

whatever you had sounds like it was a good time

posted October 22, 2018 03:43 PM            

Look I understand Pluto in 1st makes you suspicious. I also understand that you can not fully accept how amazing I am at guessing placements (I'm kidding) but did you really think I would go and check all the previous comments just to find if you mentioned anything about your chart placements? I am very flatered but 1. I don't have that patience (can't you see my Uranus in 6th conjucts 7th H and it's opposite my Sun?) and 2. It ruins the guessing game. I prefer guessing wrong than pretending to guess right. I have a Leo Venus in 2nd H I simply can't be that cheap and Saturn in 8th H gives me high morals.

it isnt uncommon for me to only barely pay attention to things

Yes I'm with you but at least you have a good reason, I do not.

people always tell me i'm attractive, i'm not really my own type but i'd have a good time with me 😂

i've heard every male and female synonym for "hot" come from people, to the point where sometimes it just feels awkward

my fiancee's told me my looks are better than my personality, and i can't tell if she's joking or not but she's usually pretty honest whether it's nice or not

well at least i'm not entirely transparent you did mention every placement though

Your girlfriend is probably right 😈
You know better than me how drugs affect everything and it is pretty common for drug addicts to be a$$****s.
So even if your are the best person that ever existed in this world you would still be a j*rk.
People are very complicated, Same person can be an cruel to persin A but naturally an angel to person B. It depends on chemistry or synastry if you see it astrology wise.

I can definately see with the placements I mentioned in my previous comment that even if you were the ugliest person on earth you would still be highly attractive/charming.

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i'd be fine with you slapping me, but if you go for the face you'd have to get both sides and make it even 😂

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ahahahahahahahahahaha
that is so Libra like

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im actually not sure i could be sober with anyone else, she's different, but we were each other's first and both sober that time anyway

idk if i could with anyone else while sober i havent tried but no one i've been with i guess except her

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That's good

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well i guess whether or not a life is wasted is subjective, and i figure anything could happen to me at any time because that's life too

fate and all that, may as well have fun

i don't mean to worry other people, but i also just don't really tell them things and when i do i just mix it in with jokes so it's all good

can't live your life just for other people anyway, not ultimately, they won't and can't for you and vice versa

you just do what you can when you can for them but that's moments you know? they come and go

and whatever pain is caused with death people heal with time anyway, it's not like there's a difference between me getting hit by a car crossing the street or me od'ing somewhere etc etc etc you know? it's not that big of a deal in the long run for anyone how it happens just that it does and then time goes on and so does life... just how it is whether that's a pretty reality or not

i dont do the things i do thinking about death i do them because i like to feel and experience a lot of different things at once because life

and then you know that one time... but i didnt try again, seemed pointless, i always figure now when i feel like killing myself i'll wait and see how i feel the next day because permanent decisions are probably better to make when you feel things for a while, consistently and can prepare etc

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I both agree and disagree.
You never know what tomorrow can bring you and a death it's a death no matter how it occured indeed. Also life does go on no matter what.. How it will go on though for each person is a different subject.

I'm not going to include any of the deaths of people I loved except of my father's, I won't include the time I've spent in hospitals both for me and others amd the health problems that I have.
My father meant the world to me, I couldn't spent more time with him than I already did, other people don't spend with their parents half of the time I've spent with my dad their whole lives.
He took a part of my "heart" away with him when he died. So there is an empty space, a whole in there because if that missing piece that I won't ever regain.
What that practically means is that I am not able to feel happy 100% like I did in the past even if it was for just a few moments. I don't feel full inside. I may laugh to the point of crying and I still have a deep sadness in me all the time.
I've had many deaths with my best friend's being the second worst for me but even that I am able to handle it.

My dad knew that he was going to die sooner or later, I kniw he would have prefered to not suffer in the hospitals with chemos and that stuff, he did it though mainly for me so that I wouldn't wonder now "what if I he had tried that? why didn't I insist in getting him into a hospital and what if this and what if that"
He tried just in case there was success, he tried just to gain even a few more days with us.

Taking a life is unforgivable even if we're talking about our own lives. It is very selfish.
Just let it happen when it will happen.
At least one person will get highly affected by one's death, and you can't know how traumatic it may be for that person and how it may ruin him/her emotionally/mentally/physically.

Choosing to live instead of dying gives you more chances to help that person, to make that person laugh, to just exist in that person's life.

We have very different mindsets, you are curious and want to experience thing and you possibly are a bit compulsive.
Some things like in the case of drugs it's proven thousands of times that most people get addicted at some point, drugs are made to be addictive actually. If you do the start you won't stop so you just don't do the first step. Learn from the mistakes of others without doing them yourself in cases like these.
Then it again has to do with the people close to me. You know how it affects them in every possible way.
I don't want to make their lives difficult, I prefer to help them whenever I can instead.
So basically I don't just think of the near future and myself.

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fair enough, though... wouldnt they change quicker if you decided they didnt matter sooner? that's how it works for me, some stuff stays a little while but it has to get around to resurfacing if it does

but i get what you're saying

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Yes I do that too. Actually I don't even need to do that I naturally don't think about things that I can get over like that.
But there are exceptions like the ones I mentioned.

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curiosity and liking to feel new things mostly is how that went... it isn't like i went into it thinking about ******* my life up things just happened along the way, and i'm alright with the experiences i've had and myself ultimately

i've had some good times and i've met some interesting people and experienced a lot of strange things and what else is life about really? mine anyway, yours is different, so is everyone's

drugs are an enjoyable sensation, like meditation or sex or an adrenaline rush etc it's not about making myself happy i know they wont make me happy thats not why i use them

whatever you had sounds like it was a good time

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Yes I know how it goes and I understand your point of view I just not happen to be that curious or put myself in possible danger for some kind of pleasure.

*It felt really good I am curious to know what it was just to know if I can say "I've tried drugs" or not 😛

I am trying to find what in your chart could show such a heavy drug addiction.
Based on my little experience I have seen in just 2 severe cases Pluto in 1st H.

Mars in hard aspect to Neptune is a classic for drug users and artists (very classic combo)
The same though doesn't apply for Moon/Neptune or Venus/Neptune hard aspects.
Mars wants to act on what it wants and just make it happen, it won't be enough to just fantasize about it (Neptune-Moon).
Your Mars-Neptune though is super wide so I don't think it really affects you.
The last thing I can see pointing to drug addiction is smth that I've never seen it being mentioned anywhere but it's smth I have seen many times happening and I actually have two relatives with heavy Libra in their charts. Now Libra and Aries are both cold. Aries cares about his self, is self centered while Libra cares about relationships and friendships but not in a deep level compared to other signs if that makes sense.
However I am always amazed by how much Libras want their friends' company. The ines I know well aren't actually aware of it. They are so cold/indifferent with their relatives for example but they are so different when it comes to friends. I don't finde their friendships being emotional/deep etc but they enjoy their company a lot even if they are like 5-6 people together with some of them being completely strangers (meeting them for the first time). Based on theory astrologically that is how Aquas should be, suprisingly is something I see happening again and again with heavy Libra.

They will do with pleasure things just for the company's sake (ie drugs) well it's common among men to start drugs like that but it's mostly the way, how easily and how lighthearted they are.

So the only indications in your chart are your Pluto in 1st H and Venus in Libra conjucting Libra ASc, ruling the 1st and 8th H.
I wouldn't have guessed it for sure though, especially not such a heavy use. I'll check you chart again tomorrow just to see if I missed anything.

posted October 22, 2018 05:30 PM            

i just had vague memories of discussing placements with you and i noticed i had and wasn't sure why, also you're expecting too much if you think i thought very long/at all before speaking

i didn't and i don't

most people like my personality, she does at least a fair amount of the time but she also lives with me

people usually tell me things like they find me soothing, i'm the most laid back person they've ever been around, ive always had coworkers classmates etc (even if i didnt know them well) tell me they love me or that things are boring without me around, that i understand them better than anyone etc

don't get me wrong i can be an ******* , and i know it, but generally? nah

i like drugs, and i've done some not so great **** but for the most part i'm alright

that being said people finding me attractive has worked in my favor and i can't really lie about that

it's also gotten to weird places though with people i dont know offering me drugs, housing, money, gifts etc for sex and telling me they love me without really knowing me just because theyre attracted to me, having people just grope me etc

with death i guess i see things very differently than you in nearly all cases

i don't think anyone should suffer through life just because i feel like i need them in mine if something is too much for them, and i wouldn't have hard feelings even if it hurt

and i don't really see it as an obligation for anyone to do things with me in mind in a good deal of cases

some level of consideration is fair but ultimately it seems wrong to me to live my life just thinking about other people and for other people to live theirs thinking about me

it's good and healthy to some of the time, but ultimately we just have ourselves anyway

and maybe that's selfish, but i can live with that and don't expect more from anyone else and i still give plenty so i feel like there's enough balance there

i started using drugs at a very young age, some things are simple some things you just end up sort of doing and over time things turn out different than expected

anyway we all have our vices don't we?

it's not that i want to make anyone's life difficult or anything (most people in my life dont know much about things i've done unless theyve been with me when they've happened) it's that i'm not going to spend every moment thinking about other people every time i'm doing something or having a good time

if i'm in the moment im in the moment, and i cant see what's wrong with that

i'm not totally selfish though i quit heroin for my fiancee and i haven't touched it in almost 2 years

quit a lot of things for her

i **** up sometimes and things can get to bad places, but i'm not so selfish that i dont try when things go that way

sometimes something being a little dangerous makes it more pleasurable, and maybe that's immature and stupid but i'm ok with that

i can think of a couple drug use indicators you missed, but i won't point them out yet

that being said most drugs ive tried ive initially gotten for free and tried them with someone else who already used

so social? to an extent yes

also funny that you mention the family thing, i'm not particularly close to my family and i'm largely indifferent towards them but my fiancee and some friends on the other hand are different

to be fair being part of my family is why i'm indifferent towards them

posted October 22, 2018 07:29 PM            

Within the last 5years I had the opportunity to work with other gems, so far I've found them either Taurus-Gemini mixed or Cancer-Gemini mixed.

I've always felt more like a "pure-bred Gemini" compared to them since my mercury is extremely dominant and has stronger aspects in my chart compared to them, I embody the good/bads.

Even my Gemini niece I embody more Gemini related traits then her.