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SimplyLuna
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posted October 17, 2018 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are the shocking things you discover about yourself as you learn astrology -- even wanting to deny it?

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Dumuzi
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posted October 17, 2018 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i learned i can blame the stars for all of my drug use

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posted October 17, 2018 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i learned i can blame the stars for all of my drug use

hahahaha

I found an explanation to my restless nature, need for change and adventure and my periodic fickle tendencies in love as well as why I am overly romantic and addicted to love, something I feel I am making progress lately keeping in check.

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posted October 17, 2018 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found out why I depend so much on others and also I'm so lazy and daydream about getting stuff done but never actually getting stuff done! Pisces and Neptune dominant for the lazy daydreaming and my 8th house stellium on the SN for the dependency issues. Meh! A whole mess!

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posted October 17, 2018 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
hahahaha

I found an explanation to my restless nature, need for change and adventure and my periodic fickle tendencies in love as well as why I am overly romantic and addicted to love, something I feel I am making progress lately keeping in check.


actually being serious, the most surprising thing was learning my fixed stars and seeing them line up with a lot of other ways my future has been predicted or laid out in the case of dreams and so on

on some level it made perfect sense, because if it didnt astrology wouldve been the only thing that didnt fit but it was still sort of jarring anyway

there was that moment where i couldn't help but pause and need to take it all in

a later conversation with someone else about their own interpretation of it and my experiences up to date only added to it

parallels like that always surprise and interest me more than anything

also when i accurately predicted something that my fiancee went through workwise a year before it happened

and the year that she would have as a result though only the work part

when i first started learning to read charts

though it is nice being able to blame the stars for things

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posted October 17, 2018 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found out why I’m unlucky in love. It was more devastating when I learned more about solar arcs (No any common signs of marriage or great love during the years when I could still have a baby) and regular midpoint trees. Many thing from midpoint tree was on spot. Like fear to make my love known publicly. I never wanted deny any knowledge but I’m wishing to learn more so that I can live my souls purpose fuller.

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posted October 17, 2018 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I found out why I’m unlucky in love. It was more devastating when I learned more about solar arcs (No any common signs of marriage or great love during the years when I could still have a baby) and regular midpoint trees. Many thing from midpoint tree was on spot. Like fear to make love public. I never wanted deny any knowledge but I’m wishing to learn more so that I can live my souls purpose fuller.

i wouldn't look to the stars to do that personally

have you tried third eye meditation? it might help you figure out which direction to head in

opens your mind to seeing the world from a different perspective

i don't know your stance on drugs, but it's similar to acid though arguably much more intense

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posted October 17, 2018 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valmu83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i wouldn't look to the stars to do that personally

have you tried third eye meditation? it might help you figure out which direction to head in

opens your mind to seeing the world from a different perspective

i don't know your stance on drugs, but it's similar to acid though arguably much more intense


I don’t remember how long time ago (years) but I have tried. Maybe I didn’t do it right as it gives me “burning” feeling in my third eye area.

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posted October 17, 2018 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Relationship with both parents individually.

Sun-Neptune, dad is nebulous and unconnectable. Recreational drinker, though not an alcoholic.

Moon-Saturn, mom is cold and rejecting.

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posted October 17, 2018 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Relationship with both parents individually.

Sun-Neptune, dad is nebulous and unconnectable. Recreational drinker, though not an alcoholic.

Moon-Saturn, mom is cold and rejecting.

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posted October 17, 2018 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Valmu83:
I don’t remember how long time ago (years) but I have tried. Maybe I didn’t do it right as it gives me “burning” feeling in my third eye area.


funny enough that means you were on the right track, but didn't do it, just pulled back too soon

if you had focused on the sensation and allowed it to build then imagined your third eye opening to release it then you wouldve eventually gotten it open

it's an unmistakable sensation

you should give it another try since youve been so close already

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posted October 17, 2018 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Somewhere someone told me based on my Chart that there is a Beast/Demon inside me. But I'm too calm and Naive.

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My Chart :
http://imgur.com/hCRDawD

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posted October 18, 2018 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3l3n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Nine. Thanks for confirming

Sun-Neptune, dad is nebulous and unconnectable..
Moon-Saturn, mom is cold and rejecting

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posted October 18, 2018 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nine, that really hit me. I feel like sending your inner child a hug.

Shocking IS word. It is such a dilemma sometimes.. sometimes I wish I didn't know, but -

I remember when I first saw that my Sun is square Neptune. And actually, it has no easy aspects elsewhere either.

I couldn't stop staring. I had done astrology for so many years but that I had overlooked. Which is fitting. Then I was in denial for many years: mehh, how bad can super soft Neptune be?

I've eaten betrayal for breakfast for years with that Neptune in my 11H too.

Also, in love, the generational planets doom me:

Younger people - their Pluto and/or Uranus squares my poor Venus (that is already fragile). And they can be on my Moon too.
Those that are older - their Pluto quincunx my Sun, or possibly Uranus. And/or their Neptune squares it even closer than my natal issue with Neptune.

I'm learning how to manage these big bullies but yeah, not really

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posted October 18, 2018 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun Conjunct Neptune. Found out that my father is NOT my father after 32 years of thinking he is. So that meant my sisters are my half sisters.

When I found this out, trans Pluto conjunct Mercury, progressed Sun was square progressed Pluto . And Uranus was parallel my Asc close to exact!

Now transiting Uranus is opposing natal and progressed Pluto. Pluto is on my Moon.I am holding my breath. Lol.

Maybe I will discover I am of royal blood and entitled to untold wealth?

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posted October 18, 2018 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most shocking
Venus, Mars and especially Jupiter in 2nd H..
The only good thing in my natal chart doesn't work. I don't have material/money/food etc easily. Actually I suffer a lot because of not having the basics and I feel tired from always being afraid if I will have enough food to eat tommorow etc. It breaks my heart that I have this trio in 2nd H and nothing good happens in there.. not even opportunities. I understand (based on my natal chart) why nothing else goes well in other aspects of my life but I can't believe that I am actually poor while having these placements (which are also in LEO of all signs! it should be extra good with Jupiter Venus in 2nd H all in Leo!!)

Another really shocking one was North Node in 7th H..
I have Uranus and Neptune conjuct DSC in Capricorn. Saturn in 8th H Aqua. I think that is enough to understand that my relationships are not existent. I am not a relationship person at all, I know for sure I won't ever be in a relationship other than platoniv ones and I am fine with it since I don't want marriage, let alone kids. But North Node in 7th H. Really? My life path are relationships? lol.. This combo shouldn't even exist astrologically, it can not work, it's impossible. I believe that North Node in 7th H makes the person unable to be in a relationship. I think North Node is not really meant to be followed or "completed" in this life unless there are positive conjuctions from other planets to help it. Otherwise it's impossible.

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posted October 18, 2018 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG Aries23Degrees! Wowzers.. I'm wondering about the whole dynamic of your family now (did the others know?).

Plut0nian2 -
"I don't have material/money/food etc easily. Actually I suffer a lot because of not having the basics and I feel tired from always being afraid if I will have enough food to eat tommorow etc. It breaks my heart that I have this trio in 2nd H and nothing good happens in there.."

Ohh... my.. I feel you. I have been for many years feeling tired from the petty worries of "will I have enough food" etc. The fear is so deep, so primal!!

And I know what you mean by having a broken heart.. just, just from "everything".

Your accounts both made me cry tonight xx

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posted October 18, 2018 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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OMG Aries23Degrees! Wowzers.. I'm wondering about the whole dynamic of your family now (did the others know?)


They still don't. Even my "Dad" has not been told. I was sworn to secrecy.

I guess its in keeping with the Pluto transit of Mercury during the time of the revelation? Can't be sure

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posted October 18, 2018 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry.. I'm derailing the thread BUT -

How can someone expect you to carry THAT. On your own. You have to fully blow this out and tell everyone.

As long as it is safe for you to do so of course.

Not everyone's the same, but, I've carried a lot in the family too and awakened to the abuse factor doing so. As well as the influence of my unaspected Pluto on the MC, and how I've been challenged to speak up for my own power.

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posted October 18, 2018 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Friends say the same thing.

You have Pluto on Mc natally? Hmmmm. Curiously when I had an astrologer do a time rectification years ago,Pluto squared my Mc/Ic according to the rectified chart.

But yes, it was quite a load initially when I was told. But it has gotten better.

Fundamentally,it hasn't changed my life in measurable ways. Only psychological awareness of my family dynamic. But no real shift of home life.

The thing is that there are so many complications to this issue in black culture and customs for instance, if this was to come out, my mother would suffer shame. And that is my concern.

The other is that there are a series of rituals that will have to be done from the "adoptive" family to "release" me as per customary laws. And for the biological family to "receive" me. And that would take years andy years to complete.

On my end, I don't want to wake sleeping dogs. As in many families or culture in South Africa, there are spiritual gifts passed on from one person to the next in the form of healing gifts, telepathy, gifts of prophecy ,medicinal gifts etc.

So these gifts are usually triggered at birth or suddenly at a certain age- where people have to go to initiation school and end up becoming spiritual doctors, shamans and sages etc.

Its very complex and quite deep. And not to say that my biological father has those "gifts". But if Shn-Neptune is a representative of the nature of the father, in my case.....highly likely!!

I have met him. And he is not easy to get to know intimately-due to being very evasive/secretive(Sun Aqua opp Pluto in Leo). So I don't know what the family tree is like.

I feel safer in my current life. Not to say that in future I may want to get closer. But for now, I am cool with letting things just be.

Its all about me right now. Am in no way being strong armed into anything. Trust me

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posted October 18, 2018 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Most shocking
Venus, Mars and especially Jupiter in 2nd H..
The only good thing in my natal chart doesn't work. I don't have material/money/food etc easily. Actually I suffer a lot because of not having the basics and I feel tired from always being afraid if I will have enough food to eat tommorow etc. It breaks my heart that I have this trio in 2nd H and nothing good happens in there.. not even opportunities. I understand (based on my natal chart) why nothing else goes well in other aspects of my life but I can't believe that I am actually poor while having these placements (which are also in LEO of all signs! it should be extra good with Jupiter Venus in 2nd H all in Leo!!)

Another really shocking one was North Node in 7th H..
I have Uranus and Neptune conjuct DSC in Capricorn. Saturn in 8th H Aqua. I think that is enough to understand that my relationships are not existent. I am not a relationship person at all, I know for sure I won't ever be in a relationship other than platoniv ones and I am fine with it since I don't want marriage, let alone kids. But North Node in 7th H. Really? My life path are relationships? lol.. This combo shouldn't even exist astrologically, it can not work, it's impossible. I believe that North Node in 7th H makes the person unable to be in a relationship. I think North Node is not really meant to be followed or "completed" in this life unless there are positive conjuctions from other planets to help it. Otherwise it's impossible.


what aspects are on them? how close are they to your sun? that can make a huge difference

if saturn is in your 8th is it opposing any of them? some systems would count it as having an effect regardless of exact angle which would bring delays and issues to your 2nd house

i have a 7th house north node (conjunct my descendant, my moon is on my descendant too and they're opposite my venus with trines from uranus and mercury to my descendant/moon/nn) and i've been in a longterm (somewhat open) relationship since hs (i'm 32 now) with other sexual partners and another much shorter relationship in between

north node 7th house doesnt at all deny partners, but the cap cusp with uranus and neptune will make those things difficult

friends with benefits isn't the worst substitute anyway though, or did you mean actually platonic? because those kinds of friendships never actually seem to ultimately work that way in my experience and usually it's just that the other person hasnt said anything yet

either way you're still alive right? there's time for things to change, life can change pretty rapidly in a short span of time and uranus is there

also saturn originally ruled aquarius it's comfortable enough there

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posted October 18, 2018 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars square Pluto/Jupiter and being no stranger to danger, but also acknowledging the violence within.

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posted October 18, 2018 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Learned to “own my Mars” which is situated in 12H but conjunct Asc. I AM aggressive but have always put a damper on it or gone to the gym or drowned myself in booze, but not anymore. I won’t tolerate BS from anyone at this point in my life, including family members. People seem shocked LOL
“But Charlie! What happened to you??? I used to be able to tell you whatever bs I could come up with or backstab you however! You seemed so forgiving!!! Why are you angry?? It was just a joke!”

Not anymore mother******

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posted October 18, 2018 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
Learned to “own my Mars” which is situated in 12H but conjunct Asc. I AM aggressive but have always put a damper on it or gone to the gym or drowned myself in booze, but not anymore. I won’t tolerate BS from anyone at this point in my life, including family members. People seem shocked LOL
“But Charlie! What happened to you??? I used to be able to tell you whatever bs I could come up with or backstab you however! You seemed so forgiving!!! Why are you angry?? It was just a joke!”

Not anymore mother******


Same here
12th house Mars Scorpio conjunct Asc exact

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posted October 18, 2018 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't use placidus personally, because whole sign is more accurate save for divination where they break even which would make you both 1st house mars

but even if i were to use placidus planets in the late degrees of a house or conjunct the cusp of a house (like that mars) get read for both or only for what theyre conjunct depending on astrologer

either way typically that would get read as a first house mars by most people regardless of system and the most you get is both houses read

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