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Topic: Moons and Mothers
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Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 252 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted October 26, 2018 09:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Yes for 11 years now it has been my husband, since we met we hanged out like all the time and it never stopped truly 
long time i always find it crazy when i think about how more than half my life has been spent with her particularly because before i met her i had no desire to be all that close to anyone hate feeling like i need anyone IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 3633 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 26, 2018 03:38 PM
Moon sign is a general way in which the internal emotional character of the native experiences the mother relationship. It is not a complete indication by itself of the character or style of the mother. Plus the condition of the Moon is more than just sign. hidden aspects in declination can make all the difference. Even then your experience with your mother can be pictured more completely in your synastry with her. But your synastry with your children can be approached with positive awareness and a desire to meet them where their needs are (not the same as bending over backward to not be strict). ------------------ "Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Expert Rectification IP: Logged |
Electro DGX Moderator Posts: 2001 From: Mars Registered: Jul 2015
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posted October 26, 2018 05:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by ameliamei: Sorry to clarify— Are you a Scorpio Moon? So now I am curious, are there any difficult aspects to the Sun that might explain your relationship with your father? although maybe comes down to synastry.
I'm not one but everyone thinks I am one and it's the only Moon Sign I resonate with. I have never resonated with my natal Moon sign and have always looked for reasons why for years. I wouldn't be shocked if I really was one. Intercepted 8th house Gemini Moon opposite Pluto by 0°01' Honestly with our synastry my dad's Saturn is in a T-Square with my natal Mars-Saturn opposition. His Mercury-Venus conjunction is also in a T-Square with my Moon-Pluto, so maybe that's why. IP: Logged |
starrybuffalo Knowflake Posts: 61 From: OR, USA Registered: Aug 2018
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posted October 26, 2018 06:24 PM
Interesting thread... I'm a Sagittarius Moon too and my mom is narcissistic.IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 252 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted October 26, 2018 06:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by starrybuffalo: Interesting thread... I'm a Sagittarius Moon too and my mom is narcissistic.
my fiancee's mother is a textbook narcissist, but my fiancee has an aries moon (so does her mom... in sidereal my aries moon and my fiancee's move to pisces, her mother stays in aries, ashvini nakshatra, it's fitting other than the good qualities) i dont think the sign a moon is in necessarily indicates how your parents were, it's all aspects IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 742 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted October 26, 2018 08:22 PM
Well fire moons are known for narcissism, so it does make sense lol. The moon is our innate emotions and how we express them and also how we view them so having a fire sign there can quite literally blow and enflame it into higher heights. Too much heat smoking up their emotions, they think they're hot stuff! Most fire moons I know can be very egoistic and lean to narcissism. I say this as a fire moon myself lol.IP: Logged |
DualGemV2 Knowflake Posts: 602 From: Toronto, Ontario Registered: Aug 2016
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posted October 29, 2018 07:08 PM
Interesting thread... What if there both Scorpio moons?Both my niece and sister are Scorpio moons. I will admit there are times when I've caught my sister doing things I could classify as being dishonest with a reason..maybe manipulative. For example I gave my neice $200 for her birthday. I was hoping she would put it in her piggy bank so she can learn how to save. Instead my Sister took it and spent it on other things she thinks the family needs and I'm disappointed because I was hoping my niece would have 100% control, she's not dumb she knows how to save for things she wants. Now whenever I give presents to my niece I'm going to have to give it to her directly otherwise my sister will take control. Whats interesting is my sister is becoming exactly the same as my mom....same pattern of behavior. My mom is an Aries moon, Cancer sun if you could believe that. She is manipulative in the sense she thinks she knows whats best and thinks that she can manipulate the situation for the best which always spirals out of control. My Planets ========================================= ☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑ IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10741 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 29, 2018 08:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by capricorncheriscty: Well fire moons are known for narcissism, so it does make sense lol. The moon is our innate emotions and how we express them and also how we view them so having a fire sign there can quite literally blow and enflame it into higher heights. Too much heat smoking up their emotions, they think they're hot stuff! Most fire moons I know can be very egoistic and lean to narcissism. I say this as a fire moon myself lol.
"they think they're hot stuff!" hahaha radical honesty. I see that least with moon in aries though, moon in aries tends to have narcissistic mothers but they are not usually narcissistic themselves, I think they like to be the heroes at least the moon aries folks that have moon aspect neptune, perhaps if moon in aries does not aspect neptune they can be a bit selfish so maybe you are right about moon in aries too, the ones I know that have moon aspect neptune though are giving with a huge heart. With moon in sag their narcissism comes from self-righteousness. With moon in leo well they like themselves a little too much and are bit obsessed with themselves although if they have sun in pisces I think that would neutralize that a lot for example.
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Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 252 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted October 29, 2018 09:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: "they think they're hot stuff!"hahaha radical honesty. I see that least with moon in aries though, moon in aries tends to have narcissistic mothers but they are not usually narcissistic themselves, I think they like to be the heroes at least the moon aries folks that have moon aspect neptune, perhaps if moon in aries does not aspect neptune they can be a bit selfish so maybe you are right about moon in aries too, the ones I know that have moon aspect neptune though are giving with a huge heart. With moon in sag their narcissism comes from self-righteousness. With moon in leo well they like themselves a little too much and are bit obsessed with themselves although if they have sun in pisces I think that would neutralize that a lot for example.
my moon doesnt touch neptune but, i don't think what i want or feel matters in most cases and usually what's best is the better option feelings aside ultimately i don't feel that way about other people's feelings though, but i cant control their feelings whereas i can deal with mine so it only makes sense to put less weight on myself and more on them in most cases not every though, that'd just be excessive not particularly selfish either, i can be very giving and i prefer to not really ask for things either im not the sort of person who gives to get either admittedly i just find things more pleasant when everyone is happy and i hate dealing with things that are even kind of difficult so i guess if me being giving and all that coming from a place where it just makes things easier on me makes me selfish then i guess i am but that just seems nitpicky and unfair really edit: my leo moon brother can be very generous, because he likes praise and attention my sag moon brother really does have the self righteous thing, he's the sort of person who makes a big deal about how he's giving you something before he gives it to you then ******* after IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10741 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 29, 2018 10:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: my moon doesnt touch neptune but, i don't think what i want or feel matters in most cases and usually what's best is the better option feelings aside ultimatelyi don't feel that way about other people's feelings though, but i cant control their feelings whereas i can deal with mine so it only makes sense to put less weight on myself and more on them in most cases not every though, that'd just be excessive not particularly selfish either, i can be very giving and i prefer to not really ask for things either im not the sort of person who gives to get either admittedly i just find things more pleasant when everyone is happy and i hate dealing with things that are even kind of difficult so i guess if me being giving and all that coming from a place where it just makes things easier on me makes me selfish then i guess i am but that just seems nitpicky and unfair really edit: my leo moon brother can be very generous, because he likes praise and attention my sag moon brother really does have the self righteous thing, he's the sort of person who makes a big deal about how he's giving you something before he gives it to you then ******* after
Yes honestly I have met an above average amount of people with moon in Aries and they are very sweet, they don't seem selfish at all or narcissistic but quite a few of them seem to have narcissistic mothers who are at least a bit self centered. They like to be heroes and help others, I think having a narcissistic mother makes them very compassionate bc they grew up seeing what they don't want to be. But you have moon in aries opposite venus in libra with sun in virgo so definitely you would not be narcissistic love. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10741 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 29, 2018 10:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: edit: my leo moon brother can be very generous, because he likes praise and attention my sag moon brother really does have the self righteous thing, he's the sort of person who makes a big deal about how he's giving you something before he gives it to you then ******* after
??? After? Yes there are lots of moon in leo people with big hearts, I know someone who has sun conjunct moon and she has a big heart and is really sweet, she has has humble venus in virgo! but I feel moon aspect sun tends to be really sweet and in touch with their emotions and like I said she has that humble venus. What aspects does your brother has involving his moon and what is his sun sign and venus sign? Even moon in sag folks have big hearts often but yes they have a big head too, very self-righteous. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 252 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted October 29, 2018 11:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Yes honestly I have met an above average amount of people with moon in Aries and they are very sweet, they don't seem selfish at all or narcissistic but quite a few of them seem to have narcissistic mothers who are at least a bit self centered. They like to be heroes and help others, I think having a narcissistic mother makes them very compassionate bc they grew up seeing what they don't want to be. But you have moon in aries opposite venus in libra with sun in virgo so definitely you would not be narcissistic love.
i wouldnt call my mother sellf centered entirely more just... she lived im a fantasy world and demanded everyone play along for her and ignore anything bad that happened manipulative, liar and so on my brother has venus in sag (very loosely conjunct his sun, 8 degrees) his moon is conjunct jupiter, square pluto, trine his sun (sag) and loosely trine venus edit: yeah sag moon brother complains before and after doing anything for anyone, but is demanding when he wants something he has an odd generous streak but it almost doesnt even matter though i'm bias him and i cant get along, then again no one ive ever been close to has liked him so... IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10741 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 30, 2018 12:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: i wouldnt call my mother sellf centered entirely more just... she lived im a fantasy world and demanded everyone play along for her and ignore anything bad that happened
Sounds very neptunian in hard aspect to Venus with an earth void to me. I know moon in hard aspect to venus can be hypersensitive or easily impressionable if the moon also aspects the sun and neptune. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10741 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 30, 2018 12:21 AM
Moon conjunct Jupiter square Pluto sounds very intense, is he bipolar? I feel he would be highly sensitive, cries easily, that sounds challenging on him emotionally. Like I would think its hard for him to regulate his emotions and that he has intense highs and lows. I would think he struggles with anxiety too but maybe he hides all that from the world with his Sag Mask!IP: Logged |
missblyss Knowflake Posts: 2730 From: Registered: May 2016
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posted October 30, 2018 12:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl: I didnt know Scorpio moons had sh it mothers, I thought it was just moon in the 12H. I have both, my mother its the BIGGEST,b i t ch e d f a c e d w h o r e who has walked the earth, besides that, I like her a bit more now since I cut my ties with her when I was 14 and she kicked me onto the streets.. I would have killed myself if I lived another day with her.
My son has moon in 12th 😳lol but I am a very devoted mother. I genuinely love the presence of my kids more than anything and see it as my duty to support them on their own unique soul missions... to guide them but not own or control them. My kids are my biggest blessings for sure. I think the 12th house influence is just Bc I am a Pisces and do a lot of energy work. I’m an energetic herbalist, do readings, etc so of course my kids are being raised around that influence. My daughter talks to angels and unicorns all day long ✨🙃🌈 IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10741 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 30, 2018 12:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by missblyss: My son has moon in 12th 😳lol but I am a very devoted mother. I genuinely love the presence of my kids more than anything and see it as my duty to support them on their own unique soul missions... to guide them but not own or control them. My kids are my biggest blessings for sure. I think the 12th house influence is just Bc I am a Pisces and do a lot of energy work. I’m an energetic herbalist, do readings, etc so of course my kids are being raised around that influence. My daughter talks to angels and unicorns all day long ✨🙃🌈
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Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 252 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted October 30, 2018 12:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Sounds very neptunian in hard aspect to Venus with an earth void to me. I know moon in hard aspect to venus can be hypersensitive or easily impressionable if the moon also aspects the sun and neptune.
my mother is mercury, venus, and neptune conjunct in scorpio (from the 12th house, but she's a scorpio ascendant) and yeah earth void as for my brother deep emotional issues, but he hides them mostly or at least sort of does from people who dont know him well it's one of the few things my mother has acknowledged (she hasnt done anything for him, shes just mentioned them to me while talking about him being weak) anyway he'll tell me about **** and i know how to chill him out, but he goes to some dark places and my fiancee and i heard some stories about it all from his ex when they broke up we stayed with him for a while to make sure he was ok after he went on a bad drinking binge and ****** his hand up punching a wall while she moved and for a while after it's conjunct retrograde jupiter btw (his other retrograde planet is mars in gemini) IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10741 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 30, 2018 12:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by Dumuzi: my mother is mercury, venus, and neptune conjunct in scorpio (from the 12th house, but she's a scorpio ascendant) and yeah earth void
GTFO!  IP: Logged |
ameliamei Knowflake Posts: 100 From: Massachusetts Registered: Jun 2013
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posted October 30, 2018 07:25 AM
Thank you all for these fascinating insights into your relationships! I will take some time to read through them all carefully. (As for the fire moon vanity, I honestly am not vain? In fact, I am insecure and anxious at times. ) My Virgo Moon daughter has her Moon conjunct NN and Jupiter in the 9th and ironically I am homeschooling her. My philosophy is to let her natural curiosities take the lead. Therefore, and from what I’ve gathered from everyone, the house and aspects are most important to deciphering the parent-child relationship. In her 9th house case, she views me as someone to learn with. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 252 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted October 30, 2018 07:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: GTFO! 
i actually had to check funny enough libra sun, aries moon, cancer mars everything else is scorpio and like i said mercury venus and neptune all conjunct she's an earth void, my father is an air void unless he has an air ascendant which i doubt (leo sun/mercury, cancer moon/ venus, virgo mars) edit: my younger brother and i both have no water, and my older brother doesnt have water or earth in his chart so we're all missing something in my case though ive ended up with someone who has no earth so i figure thats balanced enough she has water and i dont so it works out IP: Logged |
missblyss Knowflake Posts: 2730 From: Registered: May 2016
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posted October 30, 2018 12:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by ameliamei: Thank you all for these fascinating insights into your relationships! I will take some time to read through them all carefully. (As for the fire moon vanity, I honestly am not vain? In fact, I am insecure and anxious at times. ) My Virgo Moon daughter has her Moon conjunct NN and Jupiter in the 9th and ironically I am homeschooling her. My philosophy is to let her natural curiosities take the lead. Therefore, and from what I’ve gathered from everyone, the house and aspects are most important to deciphering the parent-child relationship. In her 9th house case, she views me as someone to learn with.
we homeschool too! more "unschooling" or "world schooling" very child-led IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo Knowflake Posts: 2408 From: Welcome to Mercury Registered: Jul 2015
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posted October 31, 2018 03:22 AM
Sometimes it's just the opposite.My brother (if you could even call him that) hates everyone in my family, including me, except when he wants something from us. Then he'll play nice long enough to get it, and then go back to hating all of us again. He's especially manipulative towards our mom, to the point where we've had to take legal action against him to protect her. He lies constantly. He has Scorpio Moon in 12th house. I have Gemini Moon in 4th house. No quoting, please. IP: Logged |
missblyss Knowflake Posts: 2730 From: Registered: May 2016
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posted October 31, 2018 10:55 AM
scorpio moons are notoriously intense like that, it can go multiple ways. I assume your brother acts like that because he feels that you guys have wronged him in some way. scorpio moons can feel extremely betrayed over things other moon signs might not even notice!IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10741 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 31, 2018 10:49 PM
Maybe moon in Scorpio in the 12th is a trouble some combo. Is like a secretive sign in a secretive house, scorpio is known secrets, 12th is hidden secrets. He might not even realize he lies or manipulates, to some extent this could play out subconsciously and is his undoing, once he gains a deeper more conscious awareness around this he can own that energy fully and have more control over it, the 12th is also the house of our undoing.IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10741 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 31, 2018 10:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by missblyss: scorpio moons are notoriously intense like that, it can go multiple ways. I assume your brother acts like that because he feels that you guys have wronged him in some way. scorpio moons can feel extremely betrayed over things other moon signs might not even notice!
Or he is delusional and feels family has wronged him when they have not, moon in scorpio can be paranoid naturally and then in the 12th he may not be seeing clearly reality and his paranoia can really take off with the 12th making it hard to distinguish between fantasy and suspicion based on reality. IP: Logged |