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StubbornVirgo
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posted November 01, 2018 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think hypatia hit the nail on the head with her interpretation...he is extremely paranoid and I suspect quiet delusional. There are no "wrongs" that I'm aware of...pretty much everybody in my family is emotionally intense and intuitive, but we're also firmly grounded in reality.

We were close until he started using drugs, drinking excessively, and hanging out with people I didn't trust. Now his version of reality is quite warped...like, if you sat down with him and talked about a happy memory from childhood, he would say that it was actually quite horrible because you were crazy and you didn't realize it, and how you were a terrible sister because you were so crazy, and now his life is crap because you've been bad to him all of these years...and his end game to the guilt trip is to manipulate you for money, always. It doesn't matter if you're the functioning adult with a full-time job and you've been paying his bills out of the kindness of your heart for years, you're crazy, a horrible person, and you're still not doing enough for him. You're a terrible person. You're the reason why he's homeless, jobless, addicted to drugs, whatever crisis he is going through. He can cycle through insulting you and sucking up to you in the matter of seconds.

You get the picture... There's a huge disconnect between his emotional reaction and reality. Also a MAJOR problem with accepting responsibility and being accountable for his actions.

I had not spoken to him over 6 months until a couple of days ago...then I was reminded why I can't talk to him at all.

No quoting, please!

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Dumuzi
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posted November 01, 2018 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is unrelated to anything but i need to know because your username says it all really...

what's with the "no quoting" thing?

is it a virgo "this bothers me for no reason" thing or what?

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StubbornVirgo
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posted November 03, 2018 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For privacy reasons. If I choose to delete sensitive information at a later date, it's easy to delete information in my own post, than it is to track down another person who quoted it.

Less to do with Virgo, and more to do with being an 8th house Sun & Mercury. I am very paranoid when it comes to my information/posts.

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Dumuzi
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posted November 03, 2018 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
fair enough, thanks for answering

edit: wouldnt that still be virgo?

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hypatia238
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posted November 03, 2018 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury in the 8th fits with what she is saying. I am a virgo and so are you Dumuzi and we are not like that.

My mercury in the 9th in Virgo is pretty open. I can be private but only professionally to protect myself.

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Dumuzi
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posted November 03, 2018 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
Mercury in the 8th fits with what she is saying. I am a virgo and so are you Dumuzi and we are not like that.

My mercury in the 9th in Virgo is pretty open.



i agree that it fits 8th house thats why i said fair enough

i was wondering if she was a virgo sun/mercury or going by her moon sign for the name or ascendant etc

people identify more with different parts of their chart and ive seen people debate whether or.not planets in the 8th are dead or not

most people seem to feel their 8th house strongly

also knowing 8th house would help me guess ascendant

i hadnt considered 8th house

i just saw it as very virgo/neurotic to have that in every post and i liked it and wanted it to be that

8th house makes sense though i was just looking at the username though

edit: admittedly im.heartbroken it isnt that because she was almost.perfect

though surprises are nice too

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posted November 03, 2018 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i compulsively wash my hands and so on, so yeah not all of us are secretive but i'd be lying if i said i wasnt neurotic in other ways

not particularly private though unless.im.sad about.something i hit a point where i just wont talk

otherwise i dont really care im pretty open

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posted November 03, 2018 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think rituals and routines fall under the 6th house but when these things turn into compulsions I feel Pluto is also involved since Pluto/8th house rules fears, psychological issues, desire and obsession ect.

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posted November 03, 2018 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
I think rituals and routines fall under the 6th house but when these things turn into compulsions I feel Pluto is also involved since Pluto/8th house rules fears, psychological issues, desire and obsession ect.

my 8th is empty pluto is positively aspected but yeah pluto is frequently that

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posted November 03, 2018 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dumuzi:
my 8th is empty pluto is positively aspected but yeah pluto is frequently that

Do you have stuff in your 6th house which aspect your 8th house ruler? Or does your 6th house ruler aspect your 8th ruler? Curious.
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Dumuzi
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posted November 03, 2018 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
Do you have stuff in your 6th house which aspect your 8th house ruler? Or does your 6th house ruler aspect your 8th ruler? Curious.
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if you use placidus.my moon is barely 6th house

https://m.imgur.com/a/NJWganx

edit: my bad i have a planet in the 6th either way, i forgot about jupiter being in 6th whole sign

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posted November 03, 2018 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The ruler of your 6th is Neptune in the 3rd! which trines your sun in virgo and sextiles your Pluto in the 1st.. that perhaps is enough to show some mild OCD tendencies like watching your hands repeatedly in a compulsive way..Pluto in the first will have the compulsion manifest in a more physical way (e.g. watching your hands) bc of the nature of the 1st house.

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posted November 03, 2018 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
The ruler of your 6th is Neptune in the 3rd! which trines your sun in virgo and sextiles your Pluto in the 1st.. that perhaps is enough to show some mild OCD tendencies like watching your hands repeatedly in a compulsive way..Pluto in the first will have the compulsion manifest in a more physical way (e.g. watching your hands) bc of the nature of the 1st house.

is washing your hands raw and then well past it mild? i also have meltdowns about people's energy being in my space unexpectedly unless ive had sex with them then it doesnt bother me the same etc and so on

it's a good time

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hypatia238
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posted November 03, 2018 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dumuzi:
is washing your hands raw and then well past it mild? i also have meltdowns about people's energy being in my space unexpectedly unless ive had sex with them then it doesnt bother me the same etc and so on

it's a good time


Oh, sorry you made it sound like it was not a big issue but I see it is now but yes Neptune ruling your 6th falling in the 3rd house sextile Pluto in the 1H I feel explains this obsession/compulsion with watching your hands.

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posted November 03, 2018 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Oh, sorry you made it sound like it was not a big issue but I see it is now but yes Neptune ruling your 6th falling in the 3rd house sextile Pluto in the 1H I feel explains this obsession/compulsion with watching your hands.

i make everything sound like it's not a big issue

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posted November 03, 2018 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i make everything sound like it's not a big issue

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Dumuzi
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posted November 04, 2018 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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anyway i actually never thought about looking for it because i dont actually care all that much

ive learned to mostly deal with it

and i'll force myself to deal with things i hate if i know it's more just a me issue than anything

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posted November 05, 2018 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluesky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries with Pisces Moon here, daughter of completely inflexible and selfish Sagittarius Sun, Taurus Moon mother.
She was completely the wrong mother for me. As well as being completely the wrong partner, or wife,for anyone. Which is why neither my father nor I talk to her anymore.

It was her attitude that killed our family. Irresponsible, abusive, and just simply no idea about anything. Completely wrong priorities.

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posted November 06, 2018 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My relationship with my mother was bad. These days it's been getting better. It has more to do with my moon being afflicted with a bunch of squares, than the moon sign. We both have aries moon.

Congratulations on your babies. I have twins as well.

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StubbornVirgo
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posted November 07, 2018 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dumuzi:

i was wondering if she was a virgo sun/mercury or going by her moon sign for the name or ascendant etc


I'm a Virgo Sun/Mercury/Venus - plenty of Virgo energy! I just feel my 8th house Virgo Sun/Mercury very intensely.

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posted November 08, 2018 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bluesky:
Aries with Pisces Moon here, daughter of completely inflexible and selfish Sagittarius Sun, Taurus Moon mother.
She was completely the wrong mother for me. As well as being completely the wrong partner, or wife,for anyone. Which is why neither my father nor I talk to her anymore.

It was her attitude that killed our family. Irresponsible, abusive, and just simply no idea about anything. Completely wrong priorities.


My mom's moon is in the 2nd and she is like that. Grandmother with Taurus moon also the same.

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