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Topic: Lifelong anxiety and depression?
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Kannon McAfee
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posted September 15, 2020 09:59 PM
  
The emphasis on the aspect of Mercury square Neptune is a large part of it. So is Neptune square Asc in Virgo.Moon quincunx Mercury also plays a part. ------------------
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teasel
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posted September 15, 2020 10:08 PM
I've dealt with it since I was small. I went from being outgoing and happy, to anxious and then depressed. Social anxiety and PTSD. Some years are worse than others. I loved 2003, in my own life. IP: Logged |
Graham
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posted September 16, 2020 03:52 AM
I think the chart image will appear on the thread if you delete the "s" from "https", to leave http  IP: Logged |
Valmu83
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posted September 21, 2020 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
The emphasis on the aspect of Mercury square Neptune is a large part of it. So is Neptune square Asc in Virgo.Moon quincunx Mercury also plays a part.
Thank You Kannon. Any advices how to cope with this? What I can do? IP: Logged |
Valmu83
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posted September 21, 2020 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
I've dealt with it since I was small. I went from being outgoing and happy, to anxious and then depressed. Social anxiety and PTSD. Some years are worse than others. I loved 2003, in my own life.
I´m sorry for You  I know too how hard it is to be depressed and alone years and years. IP: Logged |
Valmu83
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posted September 21, 2020 12:36 PM
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I think the chart image will appear on the thread if you delete the "s" from "https", to leave http
Thanks for the tip, that was it!  IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted September 21, 2020 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by Valmu83:
Thank You Kannon. Any advices how to cope with this? What I can do?
Learn meditation, which is to make friends with what passes through your mind without judgment, knowing none of it changes who you really are. Here is the best lesson I've ever seen on meditation, what it is an how to do it: Meditation and Going Beyond Mindfulness - A Secular Perspective And understand that a good deal of anxiety and depression can originate in disappointments in which you came to a false conclusion (belief) about yourself, others, or life. Through awareness and deepening self acceptance you can uncover these, and heal them with compassionate understanding. Meanwhile, there are definitely natural remedies that can help lessen the impact of anxiety and depression so that you can function better. Things like flower essences: http://www.bachcentre.com/centre/remedies.htm ... herbs like Mimosa flower/bark (Silktree): http://tcmwiki.com/wiki/silktree-albizzia-bark ... a constitutional homeopathic remedy ... or supplements like 5HTP. ------------------
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stone1
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posted September 21, 2020 05:30 PM
my 2 cents
1. 7h ruler is jupiter (not neptune) forming t-square with chiron and venus is the key element to the un-requited love
2. venus doesn't opposite moon as they are not in opposite signs
3. never date anybody who is "popular" even somehow the appearance match
4. ask yourself, why do you need a relationship? Learn how to live a content life by yourself#4 is most important imho IP: Logged |
Valmu83
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posted September 21, 2020 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by stone1:
my 2 cents
1. 7h ruler is jupiter (not neptune) forming t-square with chiron and venus is the key element to the un-requited love#4 is most important imho
How to get rid of this pain cycle? Where is the solution? I don’t want that all my close relationships will be painful and and stop before they start because I’m been rejected. I think it is natural to want to be loved and be touched. I want to have a family of my own. IP: Logged |
stone1
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posted September 21, 2020 11:13 PM
I am saying you have to learn how to accept yourself and your situation.
Of course it is natural want to be loved and have a family. But it is also natural to accept the reality and learn to love yourself and accept/respect solidarity as one of great choices of human being and it may suit you ok at this moment. AND when you think this way, love might knock at your door without your longing for it.
I understand it may be difficult, somebody's post earlier about meditation may help you. Try it.
Also keep in mind, things will get better when you are older, my love always says so.
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How to get rid of this pain cycle? Where is the solution? I don’t want that all my close relationships will be painful and and stop before they start because I’m been rejected. I think it is natural to want to be loved and be touched. I want to have a family of my own.
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Valmu83
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posted September 22, 2020 12:43 AM
Well I have already done that. When I was in psychotherapy I decided to let go my want to form relationships. And that period lasted 3 years. It was peaceful but didn’t bring any opportunities. And I’m been alone my whole adultlife, no relationships..sometimes it’s easier to accept, sometimes not.It seems to me all kind of people are in close relationships with their wounds and problems. So why “love yourself first” this it the first advice that you hear. I don’t think all those people in relationships love themselves too? Also I think I love and appreciate myself. Nothing personal but it is infuriating heat that advice again and again and it’s not astrological answer. And I’m trying to find solution to this. And for me it is something active not being passive and accepting I can’t change my life. Kannon. I should start meditating again, that is good advice. IP: Logged |
Valmu83
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posted August 02, 2023 02:46 AM
I’m updating this here too: Well in now sure if Neptune was behind this but that was couple of most tiresome years of my life. I had continuously a difficult situations at work. All about my own rights as a worker. I had six fixed-term contracts during that time. I thought I would be hired for permanent position, but they tricked me into latest contract with false information. And I gave my notice year ago November. Union’s lawyer is discussing compensation with my former employer. It should be soon settled. But I’m not sure if I can get anything from there. I was really angry and exhausted all the time there.
Also at the same time I had another unrequited love. I had to say to him about year ago I don’t want to continue this ..after he asked me to wait for 2 years as his children are so small. I have been really depressed and exhausted because of these. I wonder when this bad time ends? It’s been like this past 10 years: I cry almost daily.Now my progressed Chiron will square Natal Venus exactly. Im not exactly afraid as what can that do to me anymore? Only if someone dies or gets seriously sick it will effect me. Oh and off course I’m sad that I don't have anyone who would like to have children with me and I'm turning 40 this month. So chiron has enough to hurt.
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saronna
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posted August 02, 2023 04:48 AM
Can you put chart in equal house it changes where signs of houses are. Linda Goodman used equal house with charts. Interesting to see how accurate equal house with pladicus.IP: Logged |
Valmu83
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posted August 02, 2023 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by saronna:
Can you put chart in equal house it changes where signs of houses are. Linda Goodman used equal house with charts. Interesting to see how accurate equal house with pladicus.
Sure, here it is: [img]https://i.ibb.co/3hBStkB/A76-F3103-CA3-A-474-A-B0-E0-FB1332-A701-B2.jpg[/img] IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa
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posted August 03, 2023 08:59 PM
Hey,You have Sun opposite Moon in 12th and 6th houses, using whole sign system. The Sun has a depressing effect in the 12th house. It's actually the worst house for Sun to be in. The Sun is very conscious and illuminating, and in the 12th is hidden, you don't see it from the ASC.
The Moon again is badly placed in the 6th house as this house is about routine, work, and shows again physical illness like the Sun in the 12th house shows mental illness, again you don't see the 6th house from the ASC. With Moon here, there could some phycosomatic illness that can come up. Or it could be too much time spent working, in a working environment... If you want to work with it, try to not isolate yourself, this will help get the Sun out of the 12th house. And the Moon in the 6th, if you have some perfectionism, or a strictly routine to follow, try to live more unrestricted. I don't know what advice I could give. It takes lot of work to change something that you're so used to in your behaviour. It's a good thing that the ruler of the ASC is exalted in the 1st house, which can help you have control over your life. It can help you if you can ground yourself in that because it's already something that you have in your life. Just be careful with aiming for the highest path because the exaltation sometimes it can indicate this. And being a Virgo sign, again it can be that perfectionism at play here. But you know best. I think it's about living more loosely - ASC, Venus, Mercury in Virgo is deeply critical, practical, methodical, rational. And this lead to luminaries to be on the 12th/6th houses. Leading to an isolation. And that Moon rules the 11th house and is in the 6th, with this I think the friends you make are from work. IP: Logged |
mee_chryssa
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posted August 03, 2023 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by Valmu83:
Well I have already done that. When I was in psychotherapy I decided to let go my want to form relationships. And that period lasted 3 years. It was peaceful but didn’t bring any opportunities. And I’m been alone my whole adultlife, no relationships..sometimes it’s easier to accept, sometimes not.It seems to me all kind of people are in close relationships with their wounds and problems. So why “love yourself first” this it the first advice that you hear. I don’t think all those people in relationships love themselves too? Also I think I love and appreciate myself. Nothing personal but it is infuriating heat that advice again and again and it’s not astrological answer. And I’m trying to find solution to this. And for me it is something active not being passive and accepting I can’t change my life.
because it's BS. People are meant to be in social settings. Some are more social than other, but isolation is refered to nowadays as "loving yourself"... don't buy into it. Every person on earth is flawed... and they are still loved by others. Don't wait to be perfect or think that is something wrong with you and you need to do something about it.
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charlie
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posted August 04, 2023 04:49 AM
No one has mentioned Uranus at the apex of that T-square?
I also have Moon op Sun, Venus with Pluto on the Apex.
In my case, Pluto needs to solve the opposition from my Sun and Moon. And also Venus. OR one can look to the opposite end of the Apex, in my case it’s an empty house ruled my Aries. And yes, hanging around Aries people has helped me tremendously and I’m currently married to one. The struggle has been real but I’ve learnt a lot. In fact, ALL of my close relationships; friendly or otherwise, have had some type of influence from Aries. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted August 09, 2023 09:08 AM
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Originally posted by Valmu83:
Well I have already done that. When I was in psychotherapy I decided to let go my want to form relationships. And that period lasted 3 years. It was peaceful but didn’t bring any opportunities. And I’m been alone my whole adultlife, no relationships..sometimes it’s easier to accept, sometimes not.It seems to me all kind of people are in close relationships with their wounds and problems. So why “love yourself first” this it the first advice that you hear. I don’t think all those people in relationships love themselves too? Also I think I love and appreciate myself. Nothing personal but it is infuriating heat that advice again and again and it’s not astrological answer. And I’m trying to find solution to this. And for me it is something active not being passive and accepting I can’t change my life. Kannon. I should start meditating again, that is good advice.
I know what you mean. I've always been aware of my faults, and afraid of being dumped for them. I was also afraid of violence, having dealt with that, not just from a man, but from my sister. She has issues, and so does her husband. What gets me, is that bad things can happen when you DO love yourself enough to not put up with something. I set boundaries, and I was punished for it. And that first violent act happened when I was five, at the hands of a very angry adult, who didn't like children. IP: Logged |
Valmu83
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posted April 11, 2024 04:51 AM
Something happened, so i wanted to update.I met the man on the same day when my progressed Venus made a semi-sextile to my Ascendant. We met again irl a couple of weeks later and had sex. It was already a big "win" for me because intimacy has been difficult. Now we've been dating for a few weeks, but I don't have strong feelings for him. This week, the ruler of my 7th house, Neptune, is exact conjunct my Descendant, and at the same time, Pluto is making a trine to Jupiter, which is the modern ruler of my 7th house. I'm wondering if this is what mating is like for people. At least for me, it's been a disappointment so far, not feeling love or any strong emotions. I can't help but think why he isn't the one who didn't want a relationship with me two years ago. Is this how the universe just brings potential relationships to people, so they don't feel like anything? I had hoped that the ruler of the 7th house would bring true love into my life. IP: Logged |
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