posted January 25, 2019 07:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I would imagine that as you are pulled to them. So are they are pulled to you. Attraction often works like a loop-as long as the two maintain the momentum of the attraction.

It is natural for us to look at our Draconic contacts to Natal. But not be so concerned when another's Draco placements interact with us.

The reason for that is that we cannot speak on their behalf in as far as attraction is concerned. We can only speak for ourselves. With them, we can only "guess" how they feel. But not for sure

What I experience is that I attract Taurus and Libra(my Draco Sun/Moon a lot). And they are unaware that we make strong contacts in my Draco chart.

As I am certain that I am drawn to people with Sag/Aries/Can in the Draco. But i am least aware. I just feel the attraction. And that is all.

What's worthy to note is that my brother has Draco Venus/Mercury conjunct my natal Sun exact. And my Draco Sun conjuncts his natal Sun in Libra exact!

He drives me nuts!!! But its a brotherly bond I guess.

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posted January 25, 2019 07:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Have you looked at his Draco to your Tropical?And vice vers(Your Draco to his Tropical natal?)

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did you mean to ask hypatia that or me? i'm bi, but my fiancee is a woman

i've never compared her tropical to my draco, but looking over it quickly

her tropical moon is conjunct my draconic moon so my draconic kite aspects her moon and her tropical mercury (she has moon trine mercury)

my draconic sun trines her tropical moon and north node and also trines her tropical sun and saturn

haven't looked at the rest of our charts, but those immediately stood out

posted January 25, 2019 08:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Bearee:
[QUOTE] I must say that I’ve always been drawn to your posts. They resonate so well with me, like the way you think and explain things. It feels like my way of thinking (except I don’t put the effort in writing and sharing it with the world) :’)

I’m starting to think we have a good synastry and/or good Draco/Tropical synastry!
I’m a (natal) Taurus with Libra rising by the way HAHAH

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posted January 25, 2019 08:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I haven't really studied how much I resonate with my Draco planets but one thing's for sure, my dr Venus in Libra corresponds with my Tropical 5th house in Libra.

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posted January 25, 2019 08:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Attraction can often be one-sided or unbalanced but it's true we really can't tell how they feel unless they tell you... for the 3rd guy I mentioned... he was more attracted to me even though I have more Draco planets matching his Tropical while only his Draco Sun conjunct my natal Moon.

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Indeed. Attraction can be one sided. Synastry can PERFECT between you and another and......NOTHING.

I think its important to remember that attraction is contextually based. So our beautiful princess or handsome prince, depends more on where we are emotionally. And what experience our souls long to experience.

I thought the worst synastry was between my Mom and Dad. So many squares!!

But in the Draco chart, Mom's Sun conjuncts Dad's Moon in Gemini. Dad's Draco Cap Sun conjuncts Mom's natal Venus/Satur/Juno in Cap.

There are many contacts. And you would think that they have the best marriage. Not from where I am standing. But they stay together nevertheless.

posted January 25, 2019 09:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
did you mean to ask hypatia that or me? i'm bi, but my fiancee is a woman

i've never compared her tropical to my draco, but looking over it quickly

her tropical moon is conjunct my draconic moon so my draconic kite aspects her moon and her tropical mercury (she has moon trine mercury)

my draconic sun trines her tropical moon and north node and also trines her tropical sun and saturn

haven't looked at the rest of our charts, but those immediately stood out

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That question was meant for you.

Moon-Moon contacts between natal-drac means that there is instinctive understanding with regards to where one is coming from.

Look for double whammies i.e Sun natal/her Venus Drac.and her Ven natal/Sun draco you etc.

posted January 25, 2019 03:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
That question was meant for you.

Moon-Moon contacts between natal-drac means that there is instinctive understanding with regards to where one is coming from.

Look for double whammies i.e Sun natal/her Venus Drac.and her Ven natal/Sun draco you etc.

The squares,oppositions are also important. The conjunction being the most potent. Especially when in very tight orb(under 3 degrees)

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got you, i wasn't sure because you said "he"

her moon would have all the aspects mine does with the kite and t-square (which i didn't think about because i've been exhausted, my mars is square her moon in synastry anyway though even without the draconic chart, my mars is square my own moon natally)

but i only started with the moon and sun and didn't look much further because i've been out of it today

posted January 25, 2019 06:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Bearee:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
[b] I know what you mean. I dont draw in Cancer/Scorpio as would be expected since they are my Moon/Venus respectively.Nor Sag that much. This despite the stellium being in 9th and in Sag.

But I do draw Sun/Moon draco i.e Libra/Taurus signs....a lot. As well as Aqua or rather those with Uranus strong.

Venus on Virgo is Draco is telling. I am sooooo picky about whom i date. Whilst.I struggled to see Mars in Leo.

But then I realized that the descriptions i read were not resonating. So i researched further.

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posted January 26, 2019 12:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
got you, i wasn't sure because you said "he"

her moon would have all the aspects mine does with the kite and t-square (which i didn't think about because i've been exhausted, my mars is square her moon in synastry anyway though even without the draconic chart, my mars is square my own moon natally)

but i only started with the moon and sun and didn't look much further because i've been out of it today

it's interesting, but one of those things i'll get around to eventually

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posted January 26, 2019 12:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
I agree! I feel always so drawn to your posts and comments Aries23! And I'm plutonic! I would like to look at our synastry!^^
You had moon in 3rd? Or something in third I believe? You are an excellent writer!

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Thank you Yes. I have Moon in 3rd arcing to the Ic in Cancer. Its interesting because Draconic Mercury is conjunct natal Pluto exact...as in 0.00.

And I think you have Pluto in 3rd? So if that is the case, it could very well be because of this affiliation ?

posted January 26, 2019 05:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
My draconic is the same as natal. Only my Venus falls down to 29 degrees Pisces from Aries. Not much change since I have venus-neptune square in natal.

Ok the only interesting thing I found with my 2 year crush is, his draconic Moon is Exactly I mean smack on exactly on my natal DSC!
Made me shudder a bit!

My Dsc in natal is 14 degrees Pisces.
His Draconic Moon is, 14 degrees Pisces. Thats sick.. don't know what that really means, but having someones moon so exact on ones angle "nerve ending" is big, I guess?
I have always entertained the thought of us becoming partners. I can really see us as husband and wife, personality wise and attraction wise we would be a good couple.

One other sick thing is though. My Natal Moon is Exactly on his natal IC.... so many angles...

Alas, we are not together.

And I have now entered a huge detachment period, weaning off from him. I feel, so empty and detached and, its nice... better then being pluto obsessed..

edit: we have a good synastry overall with lots of binding aspects and attraction aspects.

Composite shows pluto themes. capricorn. and neptune I believe. 7th house stellium, in composite.

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posted January 26, 2019 11:48 AM            

aww its so nice with people who likes the plutonian energy!

It seems a bit rare, but I may be mistaken
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Yes I don't really know what he thinks and feels anymore. He is saturnian also , like me (moon and sun and venus) , and like me, he often shuts down and get this cold poker face. That means for sure he feels so much, he has to contain it under a cold poker face or cold wall, so I know he feels, but what he feels, that I can't tell anymore atleast.

He is also very weird when it comes expressing graditude with words, its like he have never in his life recieved care and gifts from friends.. As a Venus conj Jupiter person, I find this very disheartening and weird... anyways

He is also Leo sun, and Aries moon aspecting Mars, so, he usually won't hold unto coldness. Like me he prefers warmth and smoothing over things.

I'm done though. I'm sick and tired and I just wanna move on.

This Aquarius season and Transit saturn square my Venus really helps with detaching. In one week have gone through so many phases, I'm mysef at awe with how our emotions are so fluid!

posted January 26, 2019 12:21 PM            

With regards to that Aries Moon situation of yours. Been there. But i learned quickly that one cannot love someone deep enough for them to start loving themselves(which I think is really the issue here)

Alex Coulier(hope I spelled that right) qouted his "Alien" contactor (Monarey) as saying; "The pain you carry is equal to the love that you refuse to let in". I may be paraphrasing here. But the gist is the same:Let love in.

And speaking of Aries Moon. The ones i know respond to "toughness" more than gentleness i.e they seem to like it when you call them out on their behaviour etc. One room mate of mine was like this(Aries Moon).

During one of our disagreements where I am shouting and getting louder. He would join in.. So one time i flat out said "You seem to enjoy me getting all worked up like this and screaming at you? Not so?"

And his response was "A little. It shows me that you care enough about our friendship to iron out differences. Even if loudly"

My sister has Venus in Aries sextile Mars. The same. She likes it when things get heated and hot under the collar. She believes that its only when people"lose" control that they start being their "true" selves.

I myself am not a fan of such. Things can be said in the moment that are hurtful and may damage relations irrevocably. But to each his own.

posted January 26, 2019 05:08 PM            

That is a beautiful and meaningful saying!
Its so true

I also found, as I have talked about this before, its hard to be friends only with males as a female. Atleast for me. Also, I think its unfair for both parts. They are not good at giving emotional support, and for them, emotional support is something one gives to ones partner only..

But I understand its hard for him too. Its like, he has to act like we are dating, minus the "intimacy" parts. So, we can't be together, and we can't be friends either, but thats my opinion. I don't know what he thinks or feels.

Sorry I was responding on the other thread about the Aries moon, I did not know you wrote here about it!

Awww that is sweet in a way! How he liked you getting worked up haha!

My friends like this about me too, but not in argumentimg ways, they, only when we are discussing things and I get railed up.

I would never shout at them and show anger lol. I can thank my moon-saturn for that! Helping me keep things under control.

I agree with you, on how one can say things one regret if one is to use that energy in arguments! Too much truth is not good at all. This type of arguments, I have only with family members and yes, its not nice at all.

Aww do you see your aries moon guy anymore? Did he say anything to you? I hope the awkwardness will cease

posted January 27, 2019 01:08 AM            

With regards to your 1st post. I can only say that friendships between men and women can work if both parties want it to.

Yes, there is instances where romantic feelings and misumisunderstandings of underlying "intentions" etc. may marre relations.

But I don't think guys are less "emotionally" equipped to give support. As there are many male-male bonds I have witnessed that have a lot of ssentimentality attached to them.

Some men are actually very sensitive. In as much as you can find some women to be emotionally retarded. We are all so unique-regardless of sex

I think it also a lazy societal rhetoric to say that men find it "taxing" to be emotionally supportive without an incentive(sex). I am very very emotionally supportive to my Mom and the last thing on my mind is "how will this benefit me?" etc. So i disagree.

I think that such sentiments are still a way for men and women to feel "other" from each other. And to further stamp this "other" nature with "evidence" of the former sex being more driven by sexual benefits than the latter sex.

With regards to your 2nd post.

Your friend's reaction to your sudden exit just demonstrates what i said above about males not being robots. We are NOT robots. We are just encouraged to keep it all in and fear being "effeminized".

Now its likely that he was disturbed by you leaving. And his silent treatment is a way of "punishing" you. As Libra types can be passive aggressive. Its not unusual.

Just give him space till he makes contact again. You had every right to act in a manner that protects you. Libras (unlike Trump lol) don't like to build walls around themselves.They often WANT to make peace. So let him initiate.

Oh yes. And as far as the Aries Moon guy is concerned. Don't you worry about that lol. Things quickly reverted to their old status. As he moved on to the next best hot bod.

I don't think he can even recall that he once professed love for me at all. And that is because he has stopped acting weird around me and brings his boyfriend for me to "grade".

posted January 27, 2019 09:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Indeed. Attraction can be one sided. Synastry can PERFECT between you and another and......NOTHING.

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Nothing beats real-life connection, I say... you can have great synastries with people who turned out to be just friends, one-sided love, or nothing at all. Similarly, you can feel irresistibly attracted to people you have a so-so synastry with.

My parents have a fantastic tropical synastry but they bicker all the time. I wouldn't label their marriage horrible but they're not loving either.

It's interesting to see where the answer lies and I think I found mine in Draconic. I don't think our soul self is just lying asleep in the background. It doesn't explain my situation. Mine seems to be doing all the attracting in auto-mode, and the effects are clearly seen. They feel my soul and I'm attracted to their energies because they resonate with my soul, and vice versa. They like something within me because it feels familiar.

My guy has Draco Sun/Moon in Pisces and I can clearly see the vulnerable Piscean nature in him, and I like it because it's my Tropical Mars and relates to my Neptunian nature.

I can relate to your description of the Aries Moon (haha) because that's my Draco Moon. You get worked up only because you cared about me. Pls tell me passionately. I hate indifference.

I also realised that the gradual "maturing" of my soul began from mid-20s, that's when my soul started to consciously seek individuals that nourish it. Soul-conscious but not self-conscious as I wasn't into astrology in the past and I don't pick people by their signs.

With all said, good soul connection doesn't guarantee relationship success or longevity and this is the saddest thing because it's more painful to tear souls apart.

posted January 27, 2019 01:06 PM            

But I also think its conscious awareness that has one become aware of what they attract and why etc. It seems you are aware.

My ex is a gorgeous Libra Sun with his Tropical Sun conjunct my Draco Sun and Neptune. And he was the type to show off a lot with his looks.

But i saw past that when i first met him. I think my Draco Sun "recognized" him in a way. But i ended up not being able to stand how pretentious he insisted on remaining.

In the end i left. And even now, he will look at me and put on a performance. And i am like "stop it. You know thats not who you are. I know you. You want "us".You want me. Why are you doing this?" etc.

posted January 27, 2019 02:09 PM            

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But i saw past that when i first met him. I think my Draco Sun "recognized" him in a way. But i ended up not being able to stand how pretentious he insisted on remaining.

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That's what I used to tell my guy too! At that time we barely knew each other but I was always telling him I know him and he always denied. He was referring to the things I don't know about him, but I was referring to his soul.

He also incited such strange feelings in me. Romantic/sexual ones aside, I also feel such strong protection towards him like a mother to her child, and in turn I also feel him as a serious but loving father (and like a child at times). It sounds incestous but I don't know how best to describe it and I love these feelings...very protective... yet very possessive. If there are indeed past lives, I believe we must have been through a few extremely close relationships in a few lifetimes.

I remember looking at him and thinking to myself: "There's something beneath his fabric and I'm gonna dig it out." I attributed this partially to our tropical Pluto-Moon conjunction but it seems that it could also be our Draco connection.

posted January 28, 2019 11:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Pluto-Moon synastry can mean that the Pluto person surfaces latent or unacknowledged feelings from the Moon. Very deep

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I definitely feel deeply as Pluto. I wish I know how the Moon person feels, but he has Moon-Pluto natally so I assumed this energy feels familiar to him.

Btw, I noticed as I studied the Tropical/Draco synastries of significant relationships that almost all of them have some Saturn-personal planets DWs going on in both charts.

My parents have Saturn-Sun/Moon DWs in Tropical and Saturn-Venus DW in Draco.

My friend and her boyfriend have Saturn-Moon DW in both synastries.

Another friend and her husband has Saturn-Sun DW in Tropical, Saturn-Sun/Venus DWs in Draco.

Yet another friend and her ex-husband has Saturn-Mercury DW in Tropical and Saturn-Mercury/Venus in Draco.

My brother and his wife have Saturn-Moon/Mercury/Mars DWs in Tropical. In Draco they have Saturn-Mercury DW.

My aunt and her husband has Saturn-Sun/Mars DWs in Tropical. In Draco they have Saturn-Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars DWs.

My guy and I have Saturn-Moon DW in Tropical and Saturn-Venus DW in Draco.

There are almost always these Saturn DWs on both layers. Do you notice this trend?