posted February 08, 2019 07:40 AM            

Kinda like the "Transit mood" thread but dedicated to aloof partners and saturnian cold walls haha

posted February 08, 2019 09:19 AM            

Yes. I will be embarking on a psychology course once my initial degree is done(June). As i have always thought it an automatic fit for me.

posted February 08, 2019 11:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
look at what aspects Chiron makes to personal planets.

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Do you feel hurt by them, or the other way round?

posted February 09, 2019 12:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Do you feel hurt by them, or the other way round?

My guy's Chiron is making several aspects - trine Mercury in 2H, sextile Mars/Jupiter/Asc, oppose Uranus/Ceres/Amor in 4H.

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In synastry when someone makes aspects to my Chiron. I feel very close to them. Its like they provide the "antidote" for my pain. So to speak.

Its interesting because my friend has his Draco Chiron conjunct my natal Sun. I didn't see that till I did his Draco.

So Chiron-Mercury in synastry. Your words harm or build me. Be careful what you say to me.

Chiron-Sun. I look to you to counsel me either to the "wrong" or right direction.

Chiron-Moon. I want to be nurtured and loved by you in your own way.

So the Chiron person can remain sensitive and vulnerable to the other planetary persons positions. But the attraction to them lingers on but is very sensitive

I would imagine especially when Chiron aspects the other's Moon/Sun, angles, stellium or natal T-square. Then Chiron interacts greatly and there could even be a feeling of deep resonance with the planetary person(if you are the Chiron person)

Its interesting because i have a Chiron-Moon conjunction with a friend. In this case instead ofthe former example, I am Chiron. And i think he felt the need to nurture me or mother me in some ways(Moon)

But be that as it was, my tendency to recoil and be very sensitive to him, made him walk on eggshells around me etc. It made our friendship highly prickly until distance started to interfere with it. And perhaps provide perspective

He ALWAYS calls me on my birthday and checks up on how i am doing though.And we catch up as if we were never separated.

But i feel that our friendship is too emotionally volatile. Too sensitive to withstand us being together for long. Separation seems inevitable.

He says i "hurt" him a lot. That this "friendship" has had him thinking that perhaps he has latent feelings for me or inlove with me. Its confusing for him. Coz he is also bisexual.

Interestingly Ami Anne once mentioned(whether on her thread or site) that Chiron connections develop very quickly. You two gravitate towards one another in a very short period of time.

But as is the case with gravity ime what goes up must come down. The pairing is just way too hot not to cool down.

And this is not necessarily in the "Mars" sense of sexual attraction. But my thinking is that in the sense that you two are overly familiar so quickly, that it starts to be the very reason as to why there is a fallout(for some reason)

So i guess that Chiron or the other planet can interchange; where at times it is the other person or Chiron person that is the one that unwittingly "inflicts" the pain? I can't be sure. As I have not checked other friends with Chiron in aspect to my personal planets, to see how it plays out(Draconic or natal).

posted February 09, 2019 01:55 AM            

Yes, I saw Ami's article on it but I need to check a few synastries to verify if this is what I experienced with everyone whose Chiron conjuncts my personal planets/points. But with this guy we really got close fast (not in a sexual sense). When we first spoke, I knew we had a unique connection. He seems to be able to echo my heart even though I haven't told him anything.

posted February 09, 2019 04:37 AM            

Chiron-Uranus always strikes a soft chord with me. And that's because my Dad has the opposition of Chiron /Uranus in Aqua/Leo respectively.

Some pain of rejection fundamentally from bonding with others or associating with them in a meaningful way.

Since Uranus is in Scorpio and Chiron is in Taurus, there is emphasis made on personal security (Taurus)vs. Loss of separation(Scorpio).

Uranus is exalted in Scorpio where its upheavals reach maximum levels and thus also the associated insecurities and devastation therein.

The themes herein are Venus-Pluto/Mars-pain of love and losing love,abandonment,separation, insecurities around betrayal or manipulation.

Venus/Uranus "interrupted love, "I don't love you anymore", freedom from love, sudden separation, loss through sudden death or falling out of love. "Forever" does not exist.

Deep insecurities highlighted here with intimacy(Venus) I want to get close but what if i lose you? Or i can't let anyone get close enough to me so that I run the risk of losing them.

I hone my focus in on the opposition. As this aspect(conjunction too) highlights the juxtaposition between the planets and nature of paradoxical interactions involved.

I look at the sextile, trine as supportive. The inconjunct matters too especially when the two planetary signs have an oppositional relationship i.e. Ari/Lib, Can/Cap, Leo/ Aqu, Sag/Gem,Vir/Pisc & Tau/Sco.

posted February 10, 2019 04:22 AM            

This describes him well. There's always a fear to "own" for fear of loss. He pushes me away but is also fearful of me actually leaving. Once he had too much to drink and I went to the toilet. When I came back he said he thought I "left" him.

We also have some Chiron aspects in Draconic and Draco-Tropical synastries:

My draconic Chiron conjunct his tropical Venus
My draconic Chiron opposite his draconic Mercury
His draconic Chiron opposite my draconic Moon
His draconic Chiron conjunct my draconic Venus

I realised that in Natal I also have Chiron at 24 Aries opposite Uranus at 0 Scorpio. It also conjuncts my Psyche/Ceres, trine Moon.

posted February 10, 2019 05:18 AM            

Uranus in Scorpio- Scorpio ruled by Mars/Pluto
Chiron in Taurus- Taurus ruled by Venus.

So the interaction between Uranus & Chiron also has the permeating energies of the signs and subsequent rulers involved.

Is it a coincidence that your mate has Uranus in its exalted position in Scorpio?I think not. As this position discourages him from associating himself with anyone continuously on an intimate level(I have Uranus in 8th).

Now check this out:Uranus and Venus deal with "interrupted love", "long-distance relationships" or keeping ones love at arms length from others.

All this is because of fear of getting close or feeling "claustrophobic" when it comes to intimacy. Another manifestation of fearing closeness or being "claustrophobic" is the heightened momentum and flux of feelings therein.

It can literally feel suffocating as ones emotions are like the sea rising all up to their ears. The native can be unable to think "clearly" or feel "overwhelmed".

Now your man has Venus ruling (emotional wound) Chiron in Taurus. Can you see how it ties in with the above themes? Not through literal linear aspect of Venus-Uranus(which if he has will exacerbate what is said here). I speak not of this.

I speak of the addition of Pluto/Mars as modern /traditional rulers of Scorpio respectively. And how they hone focus on the theme of "loss" which is compounded by Uranus being in Scorpio(exalted placement) i.e.

Mars is "loss" through agrravation. Losing a lover to another, competing and losing to another's affection, divorce, being angry at the mate, arguments with the mate etc.

Pluto is "loss" through emotions i.e feeling abandonment by mate but living in same house, progressive death of mate, severing of ties by mate moving to another country permanently etc.

posted February 10, 2019 11:22 AM            

What you have described is what I've been sensing from him and he acts out a lot of his fears. I'm not sure what to do. I've been up to my neck lately. Guess I'll just leave him be for now...

posted February 13, 2019 11:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Lol. As long as that thread is upbeat and hopeful. Dont want people slitting wrists now...

Yes. I will be embarking on a psychology course once my initial degree is done(June). As i have always thought it an automatic fit for me.

Thank you for that

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Yeah, that kind of a thread may be too pessimistical...

posted June 07, 2021 03:49 PM            

In my recent romantic synastry I have the following tight aspects (below 1* or 2* orb):

Draco - Draco:
my Sun conjunct his Moon exact (& our tropical composite Moon)
my Moon, Saturn, Jupiter opposite his Pluto (on my tropical Uranus)
his name asteroid conjunct my Amor exact (& on my tropical Pluto)
my name asteroid conjunct his Dsc exact

Draco - Tropical:
his Dsc conjunct my Asc
his Asc conjunct my Dsc
my Venus conjunct his Moon
his MC conjunct my Sun
his Valentine conjunct my MC
his Amor conjunct my South Node exact
my Valentine conjunct his South Node exact

In tropical synastry we pass the IQ soulmate filter only if to take larger orbs or conjunctions to Vertex & NC axe. But in Draco-Topical synastry we pass it.

posted June 09, 2021 02:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Is anyone here drawn to people who have their natal placements conjunct your Draconic?

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I have no placements in Sag, except Pluto (which is generational). Each and every friend and boyfriend I have had have Sag moon, like all of them. literally. lol it's like it's a condition : to be close to FionaAppleYEs , you must have a big Sag placement.

I have Sag Descendant in Draconic lol.

posted June 09, 2021 03:26 PM            

In my case there's a strong indication for me to link to those with Virgo energies that match my Pluto. As we in the West say these are generational. I feel there's much more to it.