posted March 22, 2019 04:45 AM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
@Melinn. You should read more about Chaldean astrology.
In Chaldean, Saturn rules the 8th house of "endings" and crises. And what you spoke there of with Saturn being the "miner", alludes to the power of Saturn and Pluto combined.
On one hand , Saturn and Pluto are both resourceful in turning what was once "worthless"(dead) into something "valuable"(alive).
In Chaldean Saturn is the grim reaper and with her scythe, she comes and cuts life to signify an "end" to it.
In modern times however, the metaphor you used I see more as Pluto really- as it suggests resourcefulness and the alchemist abilities. Whilst Saturn rules the physical processes of crystallization.
I see Pluto people as the type to turn trash into treasure or remake something that was "worthless" into something beautiful.
I see the word "crystallization" also a great description of Saturn as its energy suggests building towards an end i.e permanence (for good or ill).And Saturn is the more physical manifestation of time i.e cracked bones, wrinkles and degenerating mental reflexes.
When Saturn is in any house, I think of it as an old man who has to be conservative in their approach to doing things because they are no spring chicken. So they can't "waste" energy.
Saturn in 1st slows down movements by transits. This is the "use it or lose it" transit that compartmentalizes the use of physical energy to certain "essential" parts of the body.
Notice how retirement typically happens when people have Saturn transiting their Asc. Or when they decide to give up something physically taxing etc.
Saturn on the Dsc is when we get tired of relationships that do not serve us. We conserve our energy to people that truly matter as we conserve our attention to a smaller social pool.
It is also a time when we decide to get married. Not necessarily for romantic reasons but because its "time" we "grew up" and honor the person we love by making a commitment to be with them in ways "tangible" i.e marriage, children, home etc.
I never heard of chaldean astrology! Will look it up!
I love all the methaphores etc used to describe pluto, saturn and all the other planets...
Ok this is just my opinion but I do believe pluto and saturn has many things in common, they are very alike but then not. This is true for all the planets.
They all have something similar they share with eac other. When it comes to pluto and saturn I think they are a bit like, twins with same themes only that the themes and energies manifests differently in each. But defining them one by one and giving them clear cut roles makes it easier to "explain" them and make sense of them.
For me though I'm more into non-linear thinking and I like seing them as a.. ok not "one body different souls" but something like that. Just my "feelings" and thoughts about saturn and pluto, I don't claim I'm right!
When its about energies, its hard to define them anyway and one has to be able to be "fluid" in thought, I think. I don't know where I get this from, maybe my mercury uranus trine 
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Sorry for my non elegant usage of the language, its hard to express oneself in a third language especially when its about astrology and whatnot..:/
Lindaland
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posted March 14, 2019 12:25 PM
