posted July 08, 2019 03:44 PM            

I identify as asexual (and aromantic). I've never had, or wanted to have, any sort of sexual relationship. Never been sexually attracted to anyone either.

I have Mars in Cancer 9th house, tightly conjunct Midheaven and Mercury. Opposite Neptune in Capricorn 3rd house. Sextile Virgo Moon in 12th. Trine Scorpio Pluto in 2nd. Square Libra Ascendant. Square NN in Aries 7th house. Aries on the 7th house cusp and Jupiter in Aries 7th.

posted July 08, 2019 04:29 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Hi, what do you guys think of this aspect. If you know someone who is asexual or practices abstinence please share their mars placement and aspects including sign and house placement.

Aries23 would love to hear your thoughts on this placement.

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Abstinence is to my understanding akin to "restraint". I see Virgo/6th or Saturn/Cap therein mixed in with "sexual" planets Sun/Ven/Mars.

Pluto and Neptune involved can go either way.Pluto can make one a porn star on one hand or a monk on the other

Whilst Neptune can have such confused feelings relating to sexual expression on one hand, whilst susceptible to porn addiction or extreme fetishism on the other.

Asexuality is the complete absence of sexual feelings. Not easy to tell from a chart as it has little to do with "sexual" planets.

Your Man has Mars in Cap in an uncomfortable square with Pluto. Typically speaking, his abstinence aligns more with Pluto's intent to "self govern" or control the intense energies they feel.

Some people with this aspect are terrified of their own sexual proclivities.Or feel like if they "release", the may flood the room.Its too "exposing" and so they bar the energy under the guise of " abstinence".

But energy has to go somewhere(as it cannot be destroyed but transformed).So watch where his intense energy flows.

Is he touchy and sensitive over small things? Is he a control freak? Is he a workaholic to a point of physical exhaustion? Is he angry all the time? Does he invest excessive amount of force into an argument or discussion? Is he intent on winning at whatever cost?

Sexual energy is a form of creative expression. It is not the ONLY form. But there is no more effective way of loving the body through this type of "all encompassing" alignment i.e body, mind and spirit.

posted July 08, 2019 06:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Nadja:
Maybe abstinence, or some sort of involuntary and frustrating sexual inhibition? Asexuality doesn't quite fit that aspect for me. Asexuality generally has nothing to do with limitation or discipline. That's what makes it a normal facet of sexuality and not a disorder or a kind of abstinence.

I identify as asexual (and aromantic). I've never had, or wanted to have, any sort of sexual relationship. Never been sexually attracted to anyone either.

I have Mars in Cancer 9th house, tightly conjunct Midheaven and Mercury. Opposite Neptune in Capricorn 3rd house. Sextile Virgo Moon in 12th. Trine Scorpio Pluto in 2nd. Square Libra Ascendant. Square NN in Aries 7th house. Aries on the 7th house cusp and Jupiter in Aries 7th.

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Thank you for sharing your placements and thoughts. Yes this confirms he is not asexual, bc I definitely felt he was strongly sexually attracted to me when we met and he acknowledges this and even said I think all the guys in the training were attracted to you.

posted July 08, 2019 06:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Abstinence is to my understanding akin to "restraint". I see Virgo/6th or Saturn/Cap therein mixed in with "sexual" planets Sun/Ven/Mars.

Pluto and Neptune involved can go either way.Pluto can make one a porn star on one hand or a monk on the other

Whilst Neptune can have such confused feelings relating to sexual expression on one hand, whilst susceptible to porn addiction or extreme fetishism on the other.

Asexuality is the complete absence of sexual feelings. Not easy to tell from a chart as it has little to do with "sexual" planets.

Your Man has Mars in Cap in an uncomfortable square with Pluto. Typically speaking, his abstinence aligns more with Pluto's intent to "self govern" or control the intense energies they feel.

Some people with this aspect are terrified of their own sexual proclivities.Or feel like if they "release", the may flood the room.Its too "exposing" and so they bar the energy under the guise of " abstinence".

But energy has to go somewhere(as it cannot be destroyed but transformed).So watch where his intense energy flows.

Is he touchy and sensitive over small things? Is he a control freak? Is he a workaholic to a point of physical exhaustion? Is he angry all the time? Does he invest excessive amount of force into an argument or discussion? Is he intent on winning at whatever cost?

Sexual energy is a form of creative expression. It is not the ONLY form. But there is no more effective way of loving the body through this type of "all encompassing" alignment i.e body, mind and spirit.

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I did tell him that if he is restraining his sexual nature or having difficulty expressing this creative side of him that he must have anger issues bc he has mars conjunct sun in the 3rd and mars square pluto. He was so surprised I was able to tell this about him on the first date. He did not believe in astrology before but he is definitely considering it now. I think his anxiety and over thinking gets in the way of flowing in that area and he hasn't integrated his shadow side yet I feel so he is not owning his primal side, seeing it as beneath him.

posted July 09, 2019 02:20 AM            

So people struggle to reconcile sexual expression with being a saint. Often concluding that one has to preserve their "virginity" to be closer to God etc.

My view is that abstinence is only seen as a "challenge" when one demonizes sex and then suppresses urges to indulge in it.

It is not sex that is "defiling" but the compulsive addiction to it i.e anything that "controls" you or misaligns your self power and self control is harmful. This whether its cake, a bad temper, gambling or sex etc.

When you are "enslaved" to anything, you cannot speak of self-discipline or self-mastery. The bible speaks of "not being able to serve two masters" etc. You either master yourself OR something/someone else will.

True spirituality is based on this principle.The freedom or "heaven" found in self mastery vs the "hellish" experience of compulsively responding to ANY stimulus.

So sex once had from a sense of enjoyment and less from "need" is a different experience. There is less obsessive attachment as one sees it as just one of MANY to celebrate source energy.

This is much like a person who enjoys a slice of cake not out of "need" but experience. This separates the self obedient from the morbidly obese.

He is not getting in touch with God through self-denial. But is instead increasing sexual frustration through suppression( as the likely way you can tell this is if he judges himself harshly for having sexual feelings etc.)

posted July 09, 2019 11:24 AM            

I will admit though cake and sugar control me! hahahah JK they don't but my god I love sugar. I am 131 pounds, 5'6 so I have self discipline but definitely let myself indulge in the pleasures of sugar hahaha, its like heaven in my mouth.

Love "True spirituality is based on this principle.The freedom or "heaven" found in self mastery vs the "hellish" experience of compulsively responding to ANY stimulus."

Love "So sex once had from a sense of enjoyment and less from "need" is a different experience. There is less obsessive attachment as one sees it as just one of MANY to celebrate source energy." This sounded so Sagi btw! I could see my fav sag uncle with venus in scorpio saying this too! hahaha Love it. Him and I would talk a lot about sex when I was a teen and young adult. I related to his mind and spirit.

I think he struggles with this side of him but I don't think he judges himself harshly for having sexual feelings. I think is a subconscious fear to let go and surrender to this sexual side of him and fear of attachment/loss, he has venus conjunct moon and uranus in scorpio with uranus ruling his 5th.

I do love him, I would be okay with been friends and making out and seeing if we eventually are able to have sex bc I think it will be great if we do .

I am not patient so I welcome this experience bc I feel I will learn about romantic love in a different context were sex is not the focus and see how you can love deeply someone in a romantic way even if the relationship is not sexual, I will learn another layer of unconditional love. I will enjoy him regardless. I love his company and chatting with him and he gives me butterflies and I Love kissing him.

posted July 09, 2019 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Amen Aries23! I feel the same, I feel that what drives my desire to have sex is spirituality in my case, wanting to connect at a deeper level with another human and to merge souls with them.

I will admit though cake and sugar control me! hahahah JK they don't but my god I love sugar. I am 131 pounds, 5'6 so I have self discipline but definitely let myself indulge in the pleasures of sugar hahaha, its like heaven in my mouth.

Love "True spirituality is based on this principle.The freedom or "heaven" found in self mastery vs the "hellish" experience of compulsively responding to ANY stimulus."

Love "So sex once had from a sense of enjoyment and less from "need" is a different experience. There is less obsessive attachment as one sees it as just one of MANY to celebrate source energy." This sounded so Sagi btw! I could see my fav sag uncle with venus in scorpio saying this too! hahaha Love it. Him and I would talk a lot about sex when I was a teen and young adult. I related to his mind and spirit.

I think he struggles with this side of him but I don't think he judges himself harshly for having sexual feelings. I think is a subconscious fear to let go and surrender to this sexual side of him and fear of attachment/loss, he has venus conjunct moon and uranus in scorpio with uranus ruling his 5th.

I do love him, I would be okay with been friends and making out and seeing if we eventually are able to have sex bc I think it will be great if we do .

I am not patient so I welcome this experience bc I feel I will learn about romantic love in a different context were sex is not the focus and see how you can love deeply someone in a romantic way even if the relationship is not sexual, I will learn another layer of unconditional love. I will enjoy him regardless. I love his company and chatting with him and he gives me butterflies and I Love kissing him.

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Uranus/Moon/Venus in Scorpio? Wow ..oh OK. Now i see the full picture.

I deal with these folks...a lot.lol. I don't think in his case it is strictly "abstinence" per se(well not in absolute sense of the word)

I think his interest in sex is sporadic. I find that it is venus/uranus in aspect(especially when in Taurus, Lib, Scorpio & Aries) that is more prone to "lust at first sight" or has sudden "urges" that go as quickly as they come.

Spontaneous sex, sex in weird places, finding strange features "sexy" or a sex that involves objects .

These people(curiously) tend to be comfortable(Moon) with some uncomfortable/weird arrangement (Uranus) in their relationship(Venus).

This can range from preferring long-distance relationships, a polygamous set-up, dating a stripper, marrying a sex worker etc.

I like how flexible you already think because you will need to be. This man may fear the intensity of their feelings & want to establish "emotional distance" now and then.

posted July 09, 2019 01:54 PM            

Hahaha this I feel sounds like him and how I have experienced him in the context of sexual energy for sure. He was very attracted to me on the first date and throughout that training were we met but then yes its like hybernating now a bit even though we still kiss here and there. Luckily we have a lot in common and can connect in many ways aside from sex.

He doesn't disappear on me though, he responds to texts and is a decent texter, good enough, not like my last Cappy who totally sucked at texting. We do hang out weekly, I don't get the sense he will disappear. Our progressed composite has Sun conjunct AC in Sag at 24 degrees conjuncting my AC and we will have Sun conjunct AC in progressed composite for many decades. I think there is a potential for at least a long term friendship but yes I also know it could end out of the blue but I feel I can handle that at this point in my life, I think I am becoming really good at letting go and dealing with loss.

posted July 09, 2019 02:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

So disappearing acts, not calling back on missed calls or waking up with them gone(is likely). Uranus on Moon or Venus always disturbs the ebb and flow of consistent loving or cuddling from showers to intermittent raindrops very erratically. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!.

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I do appreciate the warning though! I dont know what is is it with with me and scorpio uranus folks but I end up with these folks a lot in long term relationships. Like sun conjunct Uranus in scorpio, mars conjunct uranus in scorpio, now venus conjunct moon and uranus in scorpio lol.

posted July 09, 2019 02:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

This can range from preferring long-distance relationships, a polygamous set-up, dating a stripper, marrying a sex worker etc.

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posted July 09, 2019 10:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
Wow, the guy I'm dating has Pluto in the 3H square Mars in cap 5H and he's also just as you described. Almost no sex drive which is actually ok with me. I've never had a high sex drive and teetered on defining as asexual myself. My Mars is retrograde in scorpio conjunct retrograde saturn/opposite venus and Pluto is retrograde conjunct my moon in scorpio all in the 6th. His Mars is in his 5H along with his sag sun conjunct Neptune, always in Lala land.

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I know your guy and my guy also have scorpio placements, venus in scorpio right?! hahaha

posted July 10, 2019 12:23 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I know your guy and my guy also have scorpio placements, venus in scorpio right?! hahaha

I am sexual for sure but I can abstain too for months but I have my limits, eventually the body wants what it wants lol.

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posted July 10, 2019 12:24 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I know your guy and my guy also have scorpio placements, venus in scorpio right?! hahaha

I am sexual for sure but I can abstain too for months but I have my limits, eventually the body wants what it wants lol.

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posted July 12, 2019 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i have a third house cap mars, doesn't make any aspects to pluto but i definitely don't believe in or practice abstinence

according to the bible it doesn't even prevent pregnancy so it's pretty ******* useless

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hahahahaha

posted July 12, 2019 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
hahahahaha

Dumuzi! Where have you been?! Nice to have you back my friend.

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fiancee and i are on a break, needed isolation to clear my head, long story there

i'm not sure how i feel about it on one hand i miss her on the other hand it's been really peaceful and there's this guy i've been talking to that i like who i was interested in before that happened

it was a long time coming, we're still on friendly terms, just seeing where that goes

the quiet time helped me realize how erratic and stressful her and all her feelings were over the years

i haven't had a single migraine since lol

edit: btw i'm not even exaggerating, the toll stress from all of her emotions and roller coaster **** for years was taking on me was definitely physically affecting me and i had no idea until this past week

i really haven't had a migraine and i've felt significantly better in that aspect

i still love her, she told me she still loves me but this feels right currently and like it's for the best

posted July 12, 2019 03:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
fiancee and i are on a break, needed isolation to clear my head, long story there

i'm not sure how i feel about it on one hand i miss her on the other hand it's been really peaceful and there's this guy i've been talking to that i like who i was interested in before that happened

it was a long time coming, we're still on friendly terms, just seeing where that goes

the quiet time helped me realize how erratic and stressful her and all her feelings were over the years

i haven't had a single migraine since lol

edit: btw i'm not even exaggerating, the toll stress from all of her emotions and roller coaster **** for years was taking on me was definitely physically affecting me and i had no idea until this past week

i really haven't had a migraine and i've felt significantly better in that aspect

i still love her, she told me she still loves me but this feels right currently and like it's for the best

there was a lot that needed to be re-evaluated and whatever happens in the future will hopefully be better than things would've been if we kept beating a dead horse for another 14 years without breathing room

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posted July 12, 2019 03:59 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Wow I really respect you guys have the maturity to take a break and give each other space to figure out what you each want individually. It sounds like even though you miss her you feel happier without her.

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yeah it really needed to happen, and in some ways i am kind of

i mean i think the fact that we can be friends still helps we had this 2 hour conversation of just ******** and laughing no hard relationship stuff a couple days ago which was nice i missed that

we were friends first and the entire time we were dating, so neither of us wanted to get to a point where we couldn't go back to that just because of the dating

we loved each other as friends and like family so obviously that doesn't go away, but she's got a lot of **** she needs to sort out and she can be too immature and back and forth in a lot of ways that were just like torture basically (all that pluto and scorpio in her chart) and in the space i've found that i'm not constantly on edge or feeling like i'm not sure what i'm going to deal with is it an "i love you" or an "i hate you" day you know? it's just a regular day without all that and that's been good for me with re-evaluating what i want in life

i think if we had to end our friendship totally and couldn't still talk or get along etc it'd be different, that would break my heart but this feels like maybe something positive could come out of it whether or not we ever get back together

posted July 12, 2019 04:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
yeah it really needed to happen, and in some ways i am kind of

i mean i think the fact that we can be friends still helps we had this 2 hour conversation of just ******** and laughing no hard relationship stuff a couple days ago which was nice i missed that

we were friends first and the entire time we were dating, so neither of us wanted to get to a point where we couldn't go back to that just because of the dating

we loved each other as friends and like family so obviously that doesn't go away, but she's got a lot of **** she needs to sort out and she can be too immature and back and forth in a lot of ways that were just like torture basically (all that pluto and scorpio in her chart) and in the space i've found that i'm not constantly on edge or feeling like i'm not sure what i'm going to deal with is it an "i love you" or an "i hate you" day you know? it's just a regular day without all that and that's been good for me with re-evaluating what i want in life

i think if we had to end our friendship totally and couldn't still talk or get along etc it'd be different, that would break my heart but this feels like maybe something positive could come out of it whether or not we ever get back together

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posted July 12, 2019 04:03 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I will say this Dumuzi my current guy with Mars in Capricorn I have asked him twice if he is bi or gay but he says he is not and he responds with confidence and clarity not like a guy I dated many years ago who was also a Capricorn and when I asked him if he was bi he started laughing, I think in his case he was bi even though he denied it but with this guy I don't get he is lying, I really don't get that feeling, he is very firm about it. I kind of wish he would have told me he is bi bc then all this would make a little bit more sense!

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i don't think being bi would make abstinence make more sense, but i've had sex with people of both genders at the same time lol so i can't relate

i'd attribute that in my case to the loose neptune conjunction and then the uranus/venus sextile

posted July 12, 2019 04:05 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
This is how all break ups should be LOL in my mind! So glad you guys are pulling something like that off, a lot of respect for both of you.

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yeah me too, i honestly think it's stupid when people break up and then act like everything that happened between them is suddenly meaningless or has to change just because some things have