posted July 17, 2019 01:23 PM            

Which makes me wonder if Neptune opposing my Venus at such a degree (9) would have an effect on my Venus at all. It's an applying aspect...

It's not the first time where the Neptune I feel doesn't influence my Venus. But then other times I feel it very strongly. So I'm wondering where the divide here is.

posted July 17, 2019 01:34 PM            

the orb being looser might make the influence less, but also you're just not likely to experience all of the possibilities an aspect can have and yeah saturn might offset it a bit

posted July 17, 2019 02:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
So I've read that Venus/Neptune people in hard aspect are prone to wanting either people they can't have or are married or whatever... I don't necessarily feel that way. People married or in a relationship I automatically lose interest in, regardless of how 'cute' I thought they were. And the same if I don't feel that someone is necessarily into me, I immediately lose interest.

Which makes me wonder if Neptune opposing my Venus at such a degree (9) would have an effect on my Venus at all. It's an applying aspect...

It's not the first time where the Neptune I feel doesn't influence my Venus. But then other times I feel it very strongly. So I'm wondering where the divide here is.

Venus also inconjuncts my Saturn. So I'm thinking perhaps that makes it more reality-prone? So is there a conflict there or does Neptune not influence my Venus? I'm confused, cuz I do feel the Neptune at other times.

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The interpretation for Venus-Neptune is not only limited to attracting the guys you described.

Attraction to musicians
Noticing the background worker
Attraction to actors
Long disance relationships
Attraction to spiritual idealists
Attraction to artists
Attracted to people in the navy
Attracted to passive people
Attracted to psychics
Attracted to foreigners
Attracted to people who go unnoticed/understated.
Finding Keanu Reeves-type guys "sexy"
Swimmers are sexy.
Gymnasts are sexy.
Poets are sexy
Attracted to healers
Loving the "Ordinary Love" Sade video
Your partner has mental issues
Your partner has identity issues.
Attracted to someone who doesn't know that they are secretive
Attracted to dancers

posted July 17, 2019 04:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
it's not much different than an illness or some **** where not everyone is gonna feel every symptom

the orb being looser might make the influence less, but also you're just not likely to experience all of the possibilities an aspect can have and yeah saturn might offset it a bit

without venus-neptune i've been with people who were in relationships before

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posted July 17, 2019 04:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
The interpretation for Venus-Neptune is not only limited to attracting the guys you described.

Attraction to musicians
Noticing the background worker
Attraction to actors
Long disance relationships
Attraction to spiritual idealists
Attraction to artists
Attracted to people in the navy
Attracted to passive people
Attracted to psychics
Attracted to foreigners
Attracted to people who go unnoticed/understated.
Finding Keanu Reeves-type guys "sexy"
Swimmers are sexy.
Gymnasts are sexy.
Poets are sexy
Attracted to healers
Loving the "Ordinary Love" Sade video
Your partner has mental issues
Your partner has identity issues.
Attracted to someone who doesn't know that they are secretive
Attracted to dancers

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posted July 17, 2019 05:15 PM            

it can be going for broken people, for artists, for those highly intuitive and spiritual, and depending on your chart you might be hoping that instead of saving someone, someone comes and saves you...

there's a huge laundry list of what it cold mean and not every single one is going to apply

posted July 17, 2019 05:43 PM            

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Originally posted by ithinkimightbewrong:
going after married or taken men isn't the only way venus/neptune can express it's self...

it can be going for broken people, for artists, for those highly intuitive and spiritual, and depending on your chart you might be hoping that instead of saving someone, someone comes and saves you...

there's a huge laundry list of what it cold mean and not every single one is going to apply

edit: i just noticed after the fact that someone already posted an extensive list...

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"it can be going for broken people, for artists, for those highly intuitive and spiritual"

posted July 17, 2019 07:21 PM            

And i have dated a few married and "taken" women.

I have reflected about it and found numerous of arguments why i did go down that path, but never came up with an answer that could be the result of this aspect.

But if its common i guess i would have think about it once again.

posted July 17, 2019 07:24 PM            

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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
I have the opposition, 4 degrees.

And i have dated a few married and "taken" women.

I have reflected about it and found numerous of arguments why i did go down that path, but never came up with an answer that could be the result of this aspect.

But if its common i guess i would have think about it once again.

I do would like to point out that i do not fall in love with celebrities and I do prefer Saturnian women before neptunian, if it makes any sense. (i do have Venus in square with Saturn as well)

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posted July 17, 2019 07:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
🤣🤣 Ok I guess that makes sense lol thanks.

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no problem, i'm here to be right about things and make sense lol

this new guy i'm going out with next week has a neptune-venus square and venus-saturn conjunct, reading up on it i'm like "well i'm older and all kinds of ****** up so exactly his type i guess" works out well

we have a lot of pluto **** going on too though, because i always find pluto stuff with people

posted July 17, 2019 09:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
So I've read that Venus/Neptune people in hard aspect are prone to wanting either people they can't have or are married or whatever... I don't necessarily feel that way. People married or in a relationship I automatically lose interest in, regardless of how 'cute' I thought they were. And the same if I don't feel that someone is necessarily into me, I immediately lose interest.

Which makes me wonder if Neptune opposing my Venus at such a degree (9) would have an effect on my Venus at all. It's an applying aspect...

It's not the first time where the Neptune I feel doesn't influence my Venus. But then other times I feel it very strongly. So I'm wondering where the divide here is.

Venus also inconjuncts my Saturn. So I'm thinking perhaps that makes it more reality-prone? So is there a conflict there or does Neptune not influence my Venus? I'm confused, cuz I do feel the Neptune at other times.

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posted July 17, 2019 09:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Nine degrees is nothing. Don't go above six.

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i actually completely disagree with this in vedic the degrees don't matter at all and you'll find that planets can still affect each other just by being in the same house or whatever

the degrees add precision, but even if you ignore them you'll notice patterns

posted July 17, 2019 10:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i actually completely disagree with this in vedic the degrees don't matter at all and you'll find that planets can still affect each other just by being in the same house or whatever

the degrees add precision, but even if you ignore them you'll notice patterns

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I don't agree.

Vedic uses the whole sign system, which is completely invalid. They also ignore asteroids.

posted July 17, 2019 11:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Vedic also uses the whole sign system, which is completely invalid. I don't agree.

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whole sign works great typically, especially in situations where placidus fails (which it often does)

posted July 18, 2019 02:04 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
At what degree is your Saturn square? Cuz I think I'd take Neptunian people anytime over Saturnian. Which is odd cuz Saturn is at much of a tighter orb for the inconjunct.

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Aspects to Venus, my dear chart ruler :

posted July 18, 2019 06:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Somna7H:
I have both Venus and Moon opposite Neptune Rx. Orb near 3°. Neptune in 8th Sag and Venus and Moon in 2nd Gemini.
I always attracted to those with whom I will have almost no chance.

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I looked at your chart and we share almost all placements among our personal platets! 🙂
I have Venus at 16 degrees and Moon at 25 degrees Gemini, Sun at 18 degrees and Mercury at 20 degrees Cancer.
I have Mars at 29th degree Virgo though.

posted July 18, 2019 07:57 AM            

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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
I looked at your chart and we share almost all placements among our personal platets! 🙂
I have Venus at 16 degrees and Moon at 25 degrees Gemini, Sun at 18 degrees and Mercury at 20 degrees Cancer.
I have Mars at 29th degree Virgo though.

Your sun is a few minutes from my MC.

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posted July 19, 2019 02:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
no problem, i'm here to be right about things and make sense lol

this new guy i'm going out with next week has a neptune-venus square and venus-saturn conjunct, reading up on it i'm like "well i'm older and all kinds of ****** up so exactly his type i guess" works out well

we have a lot of pluto **** going on too though, because i always find pluto stuff with people

i think all the karmic **** for me has to do with my nodes being on my ascendant/descendant axis and probably also my venus/moon being there too

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Lmao I'm here to make people feel good being right 😅🤔 sometimes.

posted July 19, 2019 02:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Nine degrees is nothing. Don't go above six.

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You think? But I feel that it does affect me in different areas though. I'm not saying, the Uranus opposition is at a closer orb to my Venus and I feel it to a much stronger extent. But I definitely feel Neptune too.

posted July 19, 2019 02:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
whole sign works great typically, especially in situations where placidus fails (which it often does)

all systems work to a point anyway, you should be able to get the same person from a vedic chart that you do from a western one, and if you can't you ****** up pretty much

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Just curious, why do you say Placidus often fails? And what do you use instead?

posted July 19, 2019 02:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Somna7H:
I have both Venus and Moon opposite Neptune Rx. Orb near 3°. Neptune in 8th Sag and Venus and Moon in 2nd Gemini.
I always attracted to those with whom I will have almost no chance.

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posted July 19, 2019 03:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Somna7H:
Then we may share some common traits too ?

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I guess so, atleast at the core.
My ascendant is in Libra and my Gemini and Cancer planets all fall in my 9th which i relate alot to.

posted July 19, 2019 08:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Lmao I'm here to make people feel good being right 😅🤔 sometimes.

Lol I think the Venus/Saturn thingy is not necessarily an older in age attraction, more so a ripened personality I guess. Like an old soul idea if I'm making sense. But hey I'm here to make people feel good lol so yeah you fit his bill.

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well yeah it's not necessarily anything lmao i'm the one who told you that earlier

i imagine if i wasn't his type he wouldn't be telling me i'm perfect though (which is always sort of funny to me, when people do that, tends to just mean they like looking at me)and talking about wanting things to head somewhere serious already

says **** like he can't believe i'm a real person and that i like him (which i also find funny, but whatever, i can have a really strong effect on people but usually it's more just appearance based not so much once i start talking about my life and self) like he's gotten lucky somehow lol

i've been upfront with him about my past with hard drugs and the illegal **** i used to do that i've walked away from the **** childhood etc and normally when people haven't been part of that life they're not particularly accepting of it, but he hasn't been like that at all

he's the type who never did any of that and wouldn't, so it's very unusual, and i'm assuming that's partially due to his venus-neptune square (he's pretty heavy with neptune **** though he has pisces mercury conjunct sun sextile neptune, taurus venus and saturn squaring neptune, his taurus moon might square it as well and his scorpio mars squares his neptune too)

the health issues aren't a thing to him either

he loves that i play guitar and sing, that was something he was really into in spite of the fact that he does neither and has been curious about all the heavy occult **** too

he seems to fit a lot of what people here have mentioned

as for the age thing with saturn it's interesting because while he's aware of my age it doesn't seem to entirely register to him, but i'm assuming that's just a matter of me looking younger than i am since that's how it generally goes with people

my age tends to be easily forgotten

he has this strong caretaker vibe though, so all the ****** up must be appealing i guess lmao

edit: btw the synastry probably helps, his venus/saturn is trine my sun and opposite my pluto (his mars is loosely conjunct my pluto, we have mars sextile mars exact) which probably adds to the pull

his moon is likely opposite my pluto too, and it's possibly trine my sun and possibly trine my mars (one or the other, couple of degrees where it could be both)

posted July 19, 2019 08:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Just curious, why do you say Placidus often fails? And what do you use instead?

I just pulled a Sidereal chart... I don't think I can relate to any of the placements lol. I'm an Aries Sun. Which I'm so not. Taurus Moon. Either not. Taurus rising. Definitely not. Venus and Mars in Gemini which nope no way. You had mentioned too that you feel I must have some water in my chart. With these placements the only water planet is Jupiter. Like dude even Pluto puts me in a different generation lol. Why would it be so anyway if Pluto was simply not in Libra in 1991? Honestly I don't even have a clue what Sidereal is anyway lol maybe I should first read up on it.

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when the houses are really ****** up as far as division goes i've noticed people have a hard time relating to them, when you make the switch to whole sign that stops the issue

with vedic it's not just sign it's nakshatra so each sign is divided and the descriptions of the signs are slightly altered also usually there's something in a chart that makes up for the sign change and can be used to explain the difference

an aspect that remains could have the information the sign would've for example, and houses can make a huge difference too

ultimately though you should be able to get roughly the same person from any chart that's tied to them regardless of system

just like when you use multiple forms of divination for the same question you're going to get the same answers