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Topic: Why am I so interested on natural beauty and perfect facial/corporal aesthetics?
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Leo-Cancer98
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From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada
Registered: Nov 2014
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posted August 19, 2019 01:46 PM
  
Hi everyone 
Eyebrows excluded, although I have not devoted any time, nor energy, into wearing makeup, for the past 3 years, I'd like to have symmetrical features. My family members think I should accept my attractive face the way it is, but I'm not happy with it. When I hated my uneven gums and asymmetric teeth, my mother paid to get them fixed through 2 dental surgeries; now I LOVE my smile.
There's nothing anyone can do about having uneven eyes, but since mine are big beautiful "watery", I've accepted that I have one higher than the other. However, I cannot stand my asymmetric nose because it ruins, the symmetry of my feminine bone structure and proportions. I'm not 100% sure about getting a rhinoplasty, since I have what-is-considered a "small" nose; but I'm very interested in starting off with either a non-surgical nose job, or an alarplasty to correct my nose. Also, my lips are slightly too big and asymmetric, so I'm contemplating getting a lip-reduction done, at some point in my 20s. It's not a top financial priority though. ------------------
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Still_Hopeful
Knowflake Posts: 701
From: Boston,USA
Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 19, 2019 02:50 PM
Nothing is symmetrical.You have to accept it. If however for some reason you do not like your nose, you can always opt for plastic surgery to "fix" your nose. HOWEVER as with any surgery it involve risks (I am not talking about life risks, even though it can happen) but the risk of not like your nose after surgery . Anyways, I have nothing against plastic surgery , but I think it should done after 25. Couple of my friends "fixed" their noses. One absolutely adores it, another (well she is on your 3rd nose job) ... never satisfied. But mind you, all of them are adults in their 30s (they are adults and they can AFFORD it financially) I would advise against doing anything in your teens or earlier 20s , imho
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ULT12
Newflake Posts: 20
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Registered: Jul 2019
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posted August 19, 2019 05:02 PM
- Venus (values) in 1st (body, and/or self)
- Mars (where we expend our energy/put forth effort) in 1st (again: body, and/or self; our presentation to the world)In Vedic, the 2nd House governs the face - one way Sun-2 manifests might be that you take pride(Sun = ego) in your face(2). Or in non-Vedic, Sun-2 might just manifest as pride about self, i.e.valuing(2) your Self(Sun). Moon-6 means one is comforted by perfection, and Pluto-6 goes to extremes about detailedness. But these are not pointers on their own for flesh obsession - whereas the others are standalone points for appearance. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
Moderator Posts: 12011
From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode
Registered: Sep 2014
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posted August 19, 2019 05:21 PM
Oh please don't get surgery done, your face, nose and lips are fine!IP: Logged |
Dumuzi
Knowflake Posts: 2106
From: degenerate#5188
Registered: Oct 2018
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posted August 19, 2019 05:41 PM
since when does surgery count as natural beauty?IP: Logged |
Moonbeth
Knowflake Posts: 171
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Registered: Jul 2019
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posted August 19, 2019 06:27 PM
Surgery is by definition NOT natural anything.
Though this answers your previous post, if you spend so much time obsessing about trying to make your face/body something they're not designed to be: perfectly symmetrical; there's no way relationships or sex are ever going to appeal to you.
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DRVM614K
Knowflake Posts: 397
From: Tugsten Depths Province, SA
Registered: Nov 2018
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posted August 19, 2019 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
since when does surgery count as natural beauty?
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DRVM614K
Knowflake Posts: 397
From: Tugsten Depths Province, SA
Registered: Nov 2018
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posted August 19, 2019 08:59 PM
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DRVM614K
Knowflake Posts: 397
From: Tugsten Depths Province, SA
Registered: Nov 2018
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posted August 19, 2019 09:01 PM
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DRVM614K
Knowflake Posts: 397
From: Tugsten Depths Province, SA
Registered: Nov 2018
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posted August 19, 2019 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by Moonbeth:
Surgery is by definition NOT natural anything.
Though this answers your previous post, if you spend so much time obsessing about trying to make your face/body something they're not designed to be: perfectly symmetrical; there's no way relationships or sex are ever going to appeal to you.
I think this is the person who said she wasnt attracted to any males her age. IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle
Moderator Posts: 1636
From: Λ Ἄρης Λ
Registered: Jan 2013
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posted August 19, 2019 09:08 PM
Accept yourself and improve what you have is my advice.
This type of thinking is common at your age.IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted August 19, 2019 09:13 PM
I would consider things very carefully before having any surgeries, one fuckk up and you end up being Kylie Jenner.ANd who knows? Your lips might become the next fashion trend. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted August 19, 2019 09:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Dumuzi:
since when does surgery count as natural beauty?
Yaa every motherfuckerr starts looking the same, cant separate Jenna from Kim. On the other hand, I would understand if an Asian has a plastic surgery so that we can easily recognize them though. IP: Logged |
DRVM614K
Knowflake Posts: 397
From: Tugsten Depths Province, SA
Registered: Nov 2018
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posted August 19, 2019 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Yaa every motherfuckerr starts looking the same, cant separate Jenna from Kim.On the other hand, I would understand if an Asian has a plastic surgery so that we can easily recognize them though.
....lmao this thread is horrible lmao
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Aries23Degrees
Knowflake Posts: 7611
From: South Africa
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted August 20, 2019 03:43 AM
Why?I think you should be careful of that Moon/Pluto in 6th mix.It can create compulsive obsessions and magnify insecurities. The Venus/Mars in 1st does suggest lots of energy invested in the aesthetics. It also suggests a questionable self-esteem i.e you "critique" yourself a lot. Venus ruling self esteem is in the 1st house.You may depend too much on your looks for how you feel. Mars in 1st also can have you be defensive about appearance Interesting how Venus is associated with aesthetics whilst Mars rules knives and surgery.So the two together could suggest surgical(Mars) enhancements (Venus)? Are Sun/Mercury conjunct? Sun in 2nd always emphasize some sort of self-esteem issue that needs upliftment.This especially when Sun is in Aries,Taurus,Leo,Scorpio,Cap and Aqua. IP: Logged |
Moonbeth
Knowflake Posts: 171
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posted August 20, 2019 03:55 AM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
On the other hand, I would understand if an Asian has a plastic surgery so that we can easily recognize them though.
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DRVM614K
Knowflake Posts: 397
From: Tugsten Depths Province, SA
Registered: Nov 2018
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posted August 20, 2019 06:16 AM
Im going to tell you the truth. Its cause your black in canada where they clearly haven't taught you to value your true natural self. Your paying money to change your facial features to look like people who hate you. In reality you hate your self. IP: Logged |
bananaz
Knowflake Posts: 1010
From: Orlando, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2015
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posted August 20, 2019 06:36 AM
Dental work is one thing. Surgery is a whole other ball game. In my experience, you trade one problem for another. I regret the work I've had done because while I enhanced certain features, I've also made some worse. I wish I would have just been happy with my body. Same goes for the friends I know who have had work done. Sagittarius isnt typically a perfectionist. You can feed your moon in other ways. Usually virgo placements give that desire to have perfection along with pluto will trigger it. It was pluto in my case. I was obsessed for like a year before I had my surgery. IP: Logged |
bananaz
Knowflake Posts: 1010
From: Orlando, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2015
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posted August 20, 2019 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by DRVM614K:
Im going to tell you the truth. Its cause your black in canada where they clearly haven't taught you to value your true natural self. Your paying money to change your facial features to look like people who hate you. In reality you hate your self.
I've spent a lot of time in canada and no lie, one Halloween i met a girl dressed up as a black girl, complete with black face, a fro, and a pick in her hair. I told her if she wore that costume where I'm from (FL) she would get beaten up. Granted, this was about 8-9 years ago, but still...couldn't hardly believe it then. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
Knowflake Posts: 7611
From: South Africa
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted August 20, 2019 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by bananaz:
I've spent a lot of time in canada and no lie, one Halloween i met a girl dressed up as a black girl, complete with black face, a fro, and a pick in her hair. I told her if she wore that costume where I'm from (FL) she would get beaten up. Granted, this was about 8-9 years ago, but still...couldn't hardly believe it then.
Wow!! You know, I take it for granted that I am black. And that is because in South Africa, a majority of people look just like me. So having dark skin, a big nose, big lips and big d**** is typical  I don't know what to make of people who make fun of a particular race. In my experience its always been whites who make fun of Indians,Black people etc. And I don't understand why such people believe it A-Okay to do that. I went to a white school and therefore I have never thought myself "sexy" because I wasn't blue-eyed and blonde. So I never questioned it. It wasn't important to me. It was only after going to varsity that when I had people do a double take on me, I would giggle at that & think "hey,maybe I'm not that bad looking after all."  Point here is that environment is EVERYTHING. It can either floor your self -esteem or heighten it etc. That all those guys who were considered "hot" in the white school that I went to, would really fade into oblivion in a predominantly black one. That they would(in an attempt to fit in) "modify" their physical appearance to give the impression of being more "black". I get it. I really do.That's it. Within the context of that knowledge, I must add the importance of that Sun in 2nd. This could definitely be a self-esteem issue pertaining to looks? I didn't know you were black and how these external factors alter the reality you face somewhat. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi
Knowflake Posts: 2106
From: degenerate#5188
Registered: Oct 2018
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posted August 20, 2019 07:46 AM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Yaa every motherfuckerr starts looking the same, cant separate Jenna from Kim.On the other hand, I would understand if an Asian has a plastic surgery so that we can easily recognize them though.
race blindness actually happens with all races funny enough some people just have a look about them too i always see people who look just like my younger brother to a point where im always tempted to take ninja pics to make a him collage out of them with a picture of him thrown in to see if he can pick himself out (too much work to actually do though) never see anyone who looks like my older brother though and no one ever tells me i look like anyone either IP: Logged |
teasel
Knowflake Posts: 12449
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 20, 2019 07:54 AM
My Cappy/Pisces/Pisces sister has always been into skincare, makeup, etc. I look thrown together, a lot of the time, but I've had issues with hair loss, due to stress and illness. I'm trying to rectify it, but it's taking years.I'm useless with skin care, and makeup. I forget to moisturize, rarely use masks. I was better about it when I was younger, and didn't need it as much. I take collagen for my stomach, and another supplement that supposedly helps skin and hair. it's easier to remember - and the collagen helps the skin outside, as well as the stomach tissue. I'm Aries/Gemini/Scorpio. Uranus conjunct ascendant. More slap-dash, I guess. Last night, I needed to buy more liquid foundation, and I didn't know if I should get the same one (also couldn't remember which tone I had at home), or whether I should try something new. I sat on the floor for ten minutes, wishing that I had my mother or sister there with me - or another woman to just help, and talk about this stuff. I might be more into it, if I had that. IP: Logged |
teasel
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 20, 2019 07:59 AM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Yaa every motherfuckerr starts looking the same, cant separate Jenna from Kim.On the other hand, I would understand if an Asian has a plastic surgery so that we can easily recognize them though.
I can tell Asian people apart, and I find Asian men attractive. I actually find people of all races attractive. IP: Logged |
teasel
Knowflake Posts: 12449
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 20, 2019 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
Hi everyone
Eyebrows excluded, although I have not devoted any time, nor energy, into wearing makeup, for the past 3 years, I'm very interested in (eventually) having a perfectly symmetrical face. My family members think I should accept my attractive face the way it is, but I'm not happy with it; and the Sagittarius Moon in me, wants to make myself happy happy happy.
When I hated my uneven gums and teeth, my mother paid to get them fixed through dental surgery; now I LOVE my smile.
There's nothing anyone can do about having uneven eyes, but since I have big beautiful watery eyes, I've accepted that I have one higher than the other. However, I cannot stand my asymmetric nose because it ruins, the symmetry of my feminine bone structure and proportions. I'm not 100% sure about getting a rhinoplasty, since I have what-is-considered a "small" nose; but I'm very interested in starting off with either a non-surgical nose job, or an alarplasty to correct my nose. Also, my lips are slightly too big and asymmetric, so I'm contemplating getting a lip-reduction done, at some point in my 20s. It's not a top financial priority though.
Oh no, please don't have surgery!! I have a younger friend, a Taurus, who deals with these feelings, too. She wants to have surgery, and she's so pretty.
I've never really liked the way I look, but never wanted to go under the knife, either. When I was fifteen, I read a book called Psycho-Cybernetics. It was written by a man who was a plastic surgeon, and was mystified by how many people weren't happy once they had surgery, even though he had given them what they wanted. He hadn't botched anything, it was that they still had the same feelings and insecurities that they had before. So he wrote a book, in an effort to help them to change their thinking.
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Still_Hopeful
Knowflake Posts: 701
From: Boston,USA
Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 20, 2019 09:26 AM
I am not sure why so many of you so against PS? It is ok imho. But it needs to have all consideration of an ADULT (at least 25+, better in 30s) person.Take into considerations of all the medical Risks, recovery, finance so on. In addition, you have to understand that with any plastic surgery person can somewhat loose their facial "identity". You do not want to look like "Instababy". Honestly you do not want to look like EVERYBODY else (It is not attractive in any way).But if a person (I am not talking about OP) wants to fix a HUGE crooked nose. Why not?
PS: I personally did not have PS (besides: filler, botox and IPL) But I see myself doing it when I am in my 55's or 60'sPS: Do you want to hear a funny story? about 15 years ago I went to a couple of PS's for a consult to make my cheekbones less prominent (Honestly you can cut paper with my cheekbones )Both of them told me."God, people pay top dollars to have cheekbones like yours, are you in a right mind?" one of the PS even took pictures of my cheekbones so he can "model" his future patients. So in their eyes it was really beautiful. Funny as it is (maybe even pathetic), after my consults I started to appreciate my cheekbones. Now, I would never allow anybody come close to them with knife or injectables IP: Logged |
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