posted October 07, 2019 12:59 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Uranus was conjunct his Ascendant. There is no more amplifying condition in astrology than a Planet conjunct the Ascendant.

There are multiple Life Readings that point out he was predominantly Uranian.

You certainly can believe what you want to believe, but methinks you don't really care either way, but are trying to get a rise more so.

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North Node is an amplifier too.

posted October 07, 2019 01:00 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Not sure who you are addressing?

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u.
https://www.facebook.com/maja.tesic.391
if u dont mind
i feel i gave my soul to the anti christ...and i feel ive repeated this cycle many times...i might get one more chance but it might be pointless...

let me know when u get it so i can take down my link

posted October 07, 2019 01:01 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
There is an important difference between repression/suppression, and conscious redirection and transmutation.

The former leads to many problems, sometimes problems bigger than the things one is trying to get away from.

The latter leads to true freedom.

No one said to cut out the first 3 centers. But neither is it constructive or helpful to over indulge them either. The body has it's rhythms and rules, the Soul has it's rhythms and rules, and the Spirit has it's rhythms and rules, and the wise person learns how to harmonize and balance these.

Having a Libra Moon, I kind of have this thing about balance.

And, as someone with Sun as the chart/Ascendant ruler, in Capricorn closely square Pluto, Scorp IC with Scorp Uranus in the 4th, and Moon conjunct Saturn, I'm well acquainted with the dark side of life, others, and self.

Ain't no monk.

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posted October 07, 2019 01:06 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Dang right, and thank Source.

Most of the messages I have received about the probable future have been ultimately very positive in the long term sense. I've been shown, time and time again, a very collectively challenging/intense period of collapse and restructuring, but after that, people coming to together in a more collectively positive way, and rebuilding a world truly worth living in.

However, one time I was shown a possible future. This was a sort of lucid, intensely vivid and real feeling dream (so much so, that at first I thought I was awake and focused in the physical level), but a knowing told me very clearly, "No, this is a possible future if humanity allows itself to continue to be overly influenced by both inner and (especially) outer dark forces (which btw, includes a collectively very negative, psychopathic ET group, but that's a long, complicated account).

Anyways, I cannot even being to describe how bad it was in this possible future. It was hell on earth. Take the Dark ages and put it on a combo cocktail of meth, crack, and testosterone and you might get an inkling.

There was immense collective human suffering. This world had become a lost cause, and the helpers had no choice but to abandon it. When I awoke from this dream, I was shaken to my core.

Just as an individual Soul can reach total consciousnesses entropy, so can worlds, and it has happened before, and Guidance is doing everything in it's power to prevent that happening here, including sending in some of it's best and brightest helpers that don't normally incarnate in elementary level schools like this.

This is why we helpers need to step up our game and get ourselves as intune as possible. The more who do so, the easier it becomes for all, for we are so much more interconnected than most realize.

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posted October 07, 2019 01:18 AM            

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Originally posted by ithinkimightbewrong:
i dont think ill ever be able to learn my lesson...i think my soul will die this time

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posted October 07, 2019 01:37 AM            

Got your link. Btw, I don't think you are anywhere close to experiencing the Soul death.

You wouldn't be worried about it to begin with, if you were close to it.

These kind of Souls that experience this are hard core psychopaths that are extremely numb and think everything about themselves is great, and in fact they think they and their ways are far superior.

You more so sound like you have empathy and conscience, but are depressed. Perhaps also very energy sensitive and are at times influenced by negative energies.

posted October 07, 2019 02:39 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Hi IthinkImaybewrong,

Got your link. Btw, I don't think you are anywhere close to experiencing the Soul death.

You wouldn't be worried about it to begin with, if you were close to it.

These kind of Souls that experience this are hard core psychopaths that are extremely numb and think everything about themselves is great, and in fact they think they and their ways are far superior.

You more so sound like you have empathy and conscience, but are depressed. Perhaps also very energy sensitive and are at times influenced by negative energies.

Anyways, goodnight for now.

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posted October 07, 2019 02:41 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I'm sorry to hear that. I don't know if I believe in soul death, and life can be hard. Even those who seem to have it all together, have their own lessons to learn. I don't know one person who is perfect in every way.

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posted October 07, 2019 03:10 AM            

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The kind of Souls that experience the Soul death are hard core psychopaths who are extremely numb and think everything about themselves is great, and in fact they think they and their ways are far superior.

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posted October 07, 2019 05:28 PM            

I am currently reading Astrology, Karma, and Transformation. I am going to look more into the Cayce readings re: Saturn.

posted October 07, 2019 10:40 PM            

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But you did say Saturn transiting ascendant made you selfish, perhaps thats what you needed at the time ? First house governs the self, ain't being selfish also a part of it ? The lessons of the ego are learned when you pass through the ego, only an egoist best knows the limitations of the ego, how can someone who has never been an egoist learn the lesson of it? Ain't nobody knows his limits like a Saturnian, trust me, and this is coming from someone who has Saturn in a stellium.

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I did need self's shadow stirred up some so as to work on it more consciously. A good chunk of why I went through that cycle though, was about becoming more aware of psychopathic forces that exist spiriutally/psychically and how much they can influence us humans if we allow them to.

Part of how I got out of that was by asking for specific help for shielding and protection on the part of Beings far more aware and powerful than myself, such as Arch Angel Michael, whose primary job and role is to protect and help those Souls who are trying to become Light.

Consciously asking for this help, made a noticeable and rather quick difference in my energetic attunement at the time. But first, I had to become aware of what was really going on, and that was a process, and I got little clues here and there from different places.

One was from a fellow astro geek who is also rather energy sensitive and intuitive, who at the time, said that she saw a very dark, large, and powerful being/Spirit, near me, trying to get in my proverbial space and trying to influence me. At first, I was a bit skeptical. But turned out that she was very right.

I also got confirmation that Michael was involved with helping me, as some time later after this cycle, I had a psychic reading, and one of the first things she said was that a very powerful spiritual being named Michael had helped/was helping me.

As regards Saturn cycles in general, what I wrote earlier sums it up: "In hindsight, though it was a very testing period, it was also very enlightening and purifying.

That's the positive side of Saturn's meaning as a symbol. There is a usually a deeper and pre planned reason of why we go through these difficult and testing cycles."

Though, I am not one of those that thinks "everything happens for a reason" in the sense of everything is spiritually pre-planned. Much is, but because of the chaos potential of freewill, sometimes stuff happens because others aren't sticking to their plans and start using their freewill in ways not foreseen or planned for.

posted October 07, 2019 11:03 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I think this is part of the reason that movies like IT Part 2, are popular. That might sound silly, but I saw it tonight, and whilst it wasn't the greatest movie, it was just what I needed. Movies about friendship tend to be my favourites anyway, but "the loser's club" is a reminder of what we can do as a team, against any "big bad". Pennywise thrives on people's fear, and their thinking that they can't do anything to stop it.

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Very much agree. And Pennywise is a good metaphor for the psychopathic plutocrats and even more so for the principalities/cosmic forces which rule/influence them. These operate completely from a fear and severe lack of love base.

posted October 07, 2019 11:44 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
North Node is an amplifier too.

Whether I'm here for the rise or the lows, most points I've made are valid astrologically.

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I didn't say that Cayce didn't have some attunement to Saturn. He definitely did. But he was not a Saturnian. Uranus was by far, his dominant/most highlighted symbol.

The factors need to be put into holistic and relative understanding context.

And again, there is no more singly amplifying condition than a Planet conjunct the Ascendant. The Ascendant is like a giant magnifying lens, and any Planet or point near same, gets very enlarged/amplified.

It is possible (though rare in actual practice/observation) for a Planet not conjunct the Ascendant to become more highlighted/dominant than a Planet conjunct the Ascendant.

I'll give a hypothetical example of that. Say we are dealing with Cancer Rising, with Venus conjunct same with about 7 degree separation.

Yet, the Moon, the ruler of the Ascendant Sign is closely conjunct Mars in Aries, Mars is very closely conjunct the MC and square the Ascendant degree within 3 degrees.

In such a hypothetical example, Mars is likely to be even more highlighted than Venus. However, in this example, they first started off probably feeling more attuned to Venus in their earlier years, but eventually came to feel more strongly Martian attuned, especially as they got closer to their career years/cycle.

As to Cayce, we are fortunate that his guidance outlined all the specific lifetime memories and energetics that went in to make up his Uranian extremist attuned Soul.

On the mostly Light side, he had Uhjltd who was said to be from Arcturus (rather that dimension/consciousness level that Arcturus represents), Asapha who we don't know from what specific level he was from, but was very high, Ra Ta who was said to be from the Sun (referred to as the "infinity forces"), Lucius who was said to be from Jupiter, and his first self in the Earth plane who was nearly or completely Source realized and an androgynous/merged being.

In the other corner we have Xenon who committed suicide and I believe came to and/or from Mars and who was energetically connected to Uhjltd. While Uhjltd was a very unusually fast vibratory and love attuned personality, in his last moments on the earth, he died in deep anger and rage. For he was deeply, painfully, and cruelly betrayed by someone he thought was his friend/confident, and he saw his beloved mate/Twin Soul murdered in front of him while he was severely injured and left to slowly die. Uhjltd after the death of his body, apparently temporarily phased to the level represented by Mars, which corresponds to one of the lower levels (bit slower vibratory than earth, but not nearly so as what Saturn represents and correlates with).

Then we have the 1st John Bainbridge who was primarily Venusian, (which is a mid vibratory symbol), but increasingly became more and more Saturnian in attunement through limited use of freewill.

Then we have the 2nd John Bainbridge who entered directly from or was said to be under Saturn predominantly.

These are the primary memories and energetics that went into make up Cayce's Soul. And because he had such an extreme mix of very fast and slow vibratory sides to him, his birth time correlated with a very strong Uranus.

Since two of those selves were very much resonant with Saturn, then indeed, Cayce had some attunement to Saturn. He definitely had a selfish, materialistic, and occasionally grass is greener on the other side tendencies and inclinations.

As mentioned earlier, he was sorely tempted by other women in his karmic based marriage to Gertrude.

While some have put Cayce on a pedestal, he clearly was no pure Saint and really not particularly close. His own guidance was sometimes rather harshly critical about him, referring to him at times as overly stubborn, piggish, extremist/little balance or moderation, with a much greater need for attunement to love and spirituality, etc. i.e. his Uranus Saturn, and Mars sides.

But when he was good, he was real good and his Arcturian, Solar, Jupitarian, and Neptunian (all also highlighted in his Life readings as indications for him, either directly or indirectly through connection to those specific other lives/selves) sides shown through powerfully.

But he swang from opposite side to side like a pendulum out of control. Eventually, towards the end of his life, he started to gain control and smooth it out, and move more and more consistently to the Light side. If Edgar decides to directly reincarnate again, he'd likely be born under either Jupiter or the Sun.

According to the dreams I've had in relation to him, Edgar though is very much still in the nonphysical, acting as a guide/helper. I don't think he has any plans in directly reincarnating anytime soon. (Though his Spirit's other Soul self, Ra Ta, already has).

posted October 08, 2019 12:24 AM            

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I did need self's shadow stirred up some so as to work on it more consciously. A good chunk of why I went through that cycle though, was about becoming more aware of psychopathic forces that exist spiriutally/psychically and how much they can influence us humans if we allow them to.

Part of how I got out of that was by asking for specific help for shielding and protection on the part of Beings far more aware and powerful than myself, such as Arch Angel Michael, whose primary job and role is to protect and help those Souls who are trying to become Light.

Consciously asking for this help, made a noticeable and rather quick difference in my energetic attunement at the time. But first, I had to become aware of what was really going on, and that was a process, and I got little clues here and there from different places.

One was from a fellow astro geek who is also rather energy sensitive and intuitive, who at the time, said that she some a very dark, large, and powerful being/Spirit, near me, trying to get in my proverbial space and trying to influence me. At first, I was a bit skeptical. But turned out that she was very right.

I also got confirmation that Michael was involved with helping me, as some time later after this cycle, I had a psychic reading, and one of the first things she said was that a very powerful spiritual being named Michael had helped/was helping me.

As regards Saturn cycles in general, what I wrote earlier sums it up: "In hindsight, though it was a very testing period, it was also very enlightening and purifying.

That's the positive side of Saturn's meaning as a symbol. There is a usually a deeper and pre planned reason of why we go through these difficult and testing cycles."

Though, I am not one of those that thinks "everything happens for a reason" in the sense of everything is spiritually pre-planned. Much is, but because of the chaos potential of freewill, sometimes stuff happens because others aren't sticking to their plans and using their freewill in ways not foreseen or planned for.

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Yeah, it does exist though I feel too, kinda like I've been there myself, and I have possessed an absolutely ruthless streak in the past, I kinda miss it now tbh, but when I go there again now, it doesn't quite feel like it used to, coz there is far more....aye ?

About asking help ? Are some supposed to reach there without help, ? Kinda like I have been helped too, and its is sorta beyond describable I guess, but at the same time sometimes I feel this rejection towards it because I sort of have learned most things in life on my own ?

posted October 08, 2019 08:39 AM            

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Yeah, it does exist though I feel too, kinda like I've been there myself, and I have possessed an absolutely ruthless streak in the past, I kinda miss it now tbh, but when I go there again now, it doesn't quite feel like it used to, coz there is far more....aye ?

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Sounds like because you are spiritually growing. That's a good thing.

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About asking help ? Are some supposed to reach there without help, ? Kinda like I have been helped too, and its is sorta beyond describable I guess, but at the same time sometimes I feel this rejection towards it because I sort of have learned most things in life on my own ?

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We are often receiving help from our nonphysically focused helpers without our conscious awareness because of prior agreements and planning.

In my case, it was something I needed to become more conscious of, and so I needed to consciously ask for help. Also, the particular force that was focusing on me, was a combo of a head honcho negative being and a collective, group energy that is ET in origin. The latter is compared to most humans they are much more adept psychically, much more aware of how certain things work, and being a collective/group energy, far more powerful than almost all Souls in human form.

I know of only one human who could have successfully dealt with these and this combo completely on his own. And to paraphrase a bit, I'm not fit to tie his made in America New Balance shoes.

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And I feel my path is yang, I can surrender and let go too, but even if I do that I seek confrontation even with it, and I do have the ability to handle high level of aggressive energy. When I act according to the "help" I sort of feel like a medium, amazing experience, but somewhat used, I feel I am here to walk my own path, not become someone else's medium.

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In a general sense, I've long observed that the more mature the Soul becomes, the more balanced, integrated, and eventually merged between the inner Yin and Yang it becomes.

But it could be that you are coming from a past of being over polarized to the Yin, and in this life you need to focus on the Yang (to attain a better balance). A holistic combo of the Moon, the IC/4th House, and the South Node and their related factors can give a pretty good picture of what the dominant past patterns coming over from another life or other lives were.

The most Yin polarized symbols are the Moon, Taurus, and Cancer. Moderately so are Venus, Virgo, Scorpio. Somewhat Yin polarized but least so are Neptune, Capricorn, and Pisces. I'm not sure where Pluto fits into this? Sometimes I think Pluto is slightly Yin polarized, and at other times I think it's slightly Yang polarized. Either way, it's definitely more a blend than say Moon and Mars.

posted October 08, 2019 08:46 AM            

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Originally posted by manymoones:
Thank you, thank you for this thread! I am a Capricorn with Uranus, Neptune, Saturn, Venus, and NN in Capricorn in my 12th house experiencing my first Saturn return

I am currently reading Astrology, Karma, and Transformation. I am going to look more into the Cayce readings re: Saturn.

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Am glad to know you are enjoying this thread Manymoones.

(Don't have any book recommendations alas).

posted October 08, 2019 12:40 PM            

It should be mentioned though, that many of these nonphysical helpers helping us, are actually Souls that are from and part of the same Spirit self as we are.

Hence, in a loose sense, it's like you are still helping you. I mean, who knows you better than you? Graduated you's. (I say "loose" because these are still very much individuals with their own self awareness and freewill, and they will likely have some energetic differences as compared your Soul).

Lol, I hope that helps to ease your independent mind!

If a Spirit doesn't have any graduates/guide types yet (does happen/is possible), then other Spirits and Souls will step in as helpers until their own Spirit and other Soul selves can.

The larger reality is a lot bigger and more relative than most even begin to get an inkling of. The more we can open up to and attune to pure Love, the more it expands and clarifies our perception. There is nothing that helps this more, though while connected to a human body, certainly body balance and health facilitates it as well.

Geesh, maybe I should just start handing out fortune cookies already?

posted October 08, 2019 12:56 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
"We are often receiving help from our nonphysically focused helpers without our conscious awareness because of prior agreements and planning."

It should be mentioned though, that many of these nonphysical helpers helping us, are actually Souls that are from and part of the same Spirit self as we are.

Hence, in a loose sense, it's like you are still helping you. I mean, who knows you better than you? Graduated you's. (I say "loose" because these are still very much individuals with their own self awareness and freewill, and they will likely have some energetic differences as compared your Soul).

Lol, I hope that helps to ease your independent mind!

If a Spirit doesn't have any graduates/guide types yet (does happen/is possible), then other Spirits and Souls will step in as helpers until their own Spirit and other Soul selves can.

The larger reality is a lot bigger and more relative than most even begin to get an inkling of. The more we can open up to and attune to pure Love, the more it expands and clarifies our perception. There is nothing that helps this more, though while connected to a human body, certainly body balance and health facilitates it as well.

Geesh, maybe I should just start handing out fortune cookies already?

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