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Topic: The non-aggressive and less "in your face" Aries
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7926 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 09, 2019 08:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: You generously spend a lot of your time helping others here, when it comes to their relationships. You listen to them, and try to help. You also really look at the chart of the other person, and try to get a feel for them, or explain what they might be feeling/who they might be as a person.Mars in the 7th, in Libra. On another forum, five years ago, I received a PM from a man who pointed out how welcoming I was to everyone (Aries Sun, Moon conjunct Venus in Gemini). I don't like people to feel or be left out. I've noticed that you try to respond to people who have no other responses to their threads. That could also be your Sagittarius Sun, or your Moon in Cancer (wanting everyone to feel at home).
That is the loveliest thing I have heard in a long while. Thank you  I think its because I feel connected to people on here as all of them nurture me in ways that are hard to explain(Ceres in Aqua sextile Sun in Sag exact from the 11th);the insights,the humour,the sensitivity, the sense of community and even the DRAMA!  So even as it may seem like I am "helping" another.I am myself being helped tenfold to come to a better understanding of me. Its pure ecstasy. This is especially when the posts are candid, personal, earnest...bravo to all  IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 12312 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 09, 2019 11:26 AM
Tbf Aries23 the vast majority of people would not buy that ET theory. I think Neptune if anything makes people more susceptible to believing anything that is out there wether is twin flames or that ET theory. Neptune is known for psychic receptivity and the idea that there is more to the story than we can see. Neptune is more open to mystery but this makes the native also more open to deception and delusions and more naive, open mindedness without discernment can make you too open and we know with Neptune imagination can run wild and if you operate from a place of fear this leads to a lot of anxiety bc you are feeding fear with your imagination and reinforcing this habit in you over and over again. I feel this is why you brought up the law of attraction. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 12312 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 09, 2019 11:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by SimplyLuna: My good friend is that Aries (sun), Leo rising. She is one of the most non-confrontational Aries I've met. Her Venus in Pisces makes her forgiving and positive and cooperative (moon in Libra opposite Jupiter).I barely see her erupt in anger and say anything mean with her Mars trine moon and sextile Mercury. If anything, she would walk away. She suppresses her anger and tears comes falling. edit Didn't realize you mean Aries rising. Excuse my selective reading!
A lot of women cry when they feel angry. There is also self-righteous anger which people may not realize is addictive or be aware they struggle with that. Your friend has moon in Libra and she is a woman, she will own more her moon and this may show more than her sun until she integrates more her masculine side. I had an aura reading done this summer and the report said that my feminine side is a little bit more active than my masculine side but they are pretty balanced and integrated which fits my chart: I have venus conjunct mars by 1 degree. Sun opposite Moon with both sun and moon square Neptune but Neptune squares more tightly my sun and Neptune is a feminine energy so it weakens a little bit my masculine side making it harder to own my sun in Virgo. Interesting enough historically I have always had a harder time identifying with sun in Virgo and always identified more with my moon in pisces. You add to this that women own more easily their moon and venus to start with. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7926 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 09, 2019 12:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Tbf Aries23 the vast majority of people would not buy that ET theory. I think Neptune if anything makes people more susceptible to believing anything that is out there wether is twin flames or that ET theory. Neptune is known for psychic receptivity and the idea that there is more to the story than we can see. Neptune is more open to mystery but this makes the native also more open to deception and delusions and more naive, open mindedness without discernment can make you too open and we know with Neptune imagination can run wild and if you operate from a place of fear this leads to a lot if anxiety bc you are feeding fear with your imagination and reinforcing this habit in you over and over again. I feel this is why you brought up the law of attraction.
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moongaze Knowflake Posts: 271 From: Registered: Sep 2016
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posted October 09, 2019 01:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Are you easily offended or feel your emotional nature "out there" a lot? Cancer and Aries in my case mix to create Surface(Aries)sensitivity(Cancer)
No, not in a general sense where one has to walk on eggshells around me. I'm rather laidback, having Mars in Taurus. I'd mostly get offended if someone is being rude towards me or to someone else when it's unnecessary. But I wouldn't usually act out towards someone unless I know them well because I hate causing a scene and have general anxiety when it comes to that sort of stuff. There is a slightly extroverted side that creeps out every so often when I feel comfortable in the moment, but otherwise I'm very, very introverted and am especially secretive with my feelings. My Moon is in the 12th house in Pisces though, exactly trining Pluto in Scorpio in the 8th, so I'm sure that has much to do with it. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 381 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted October 09, 2019 03:18 PM
Neptunians can indeed be overly trusting, and naive to the dark side in others and life. Bruce definitely had some of that, but he was quite aware of earthly corruption and knew/believed that nine eleven was an inside facilitated job. I guess that Libra thing doesn't apply to Libra Moons (or maybe the Virgo Saturn conjunction damps it down), because I don't think people find me especially charming. I think I could be more so, but go out of my way to not be. My brother is a Libra Sun with Venus Mars conjunction conjunct his Ascendant, and the ruling planet in Libra (barely). He apparently didn't feel he got enough attention or something at home, so he learned to hone his charm, as well as was born a magnetic person and is quite attractive physically (though shorter than average). Seeing that go a bit to the extreme, kind of turned me off from it. Charm can be a tool of manipulation, and I try to avoid that both in self and in others. There is certainly something to the whole Law of attraction thing, but I'm not a fan of that source. If you dig deeper, there are some major issues around them. Funny that you mention Icke. Icke was one of the reasons that for awhile I was overly skeptical of the whole reptilian ET thing. I don't particularly vibe with the guy and he has long struck me as being quite an attention seeker. However, I try to remain open minded to things, and I started asking my internal guidance if there was any truth to it, because of an experience I had working with a client with mild to moderate ID. He didn't have a particularly strong imagination, but he came to trust me and confided in me that one time when looking out his window at night, he saw this being that looked like what a reptilian ET is reported to look like. Like I said, I became curious as to if there was anything to it and I started to ask guidance with no preconceptions. My partner had a dream shortly after (and me not telling her any of this) that dealt with Reptilian ET's. I also ended up getting direct guidance about it. Then, a friend of mine, someone who I deeply respect spiritually and is even faster vibratory than Bruce Moen (this was literally laid out in a dream to me, where I was at a social function, and talking to Bruce and Bruce said intently to me, "go find so and so, he is more intune/aware than I am". He was referring to my friend who I hadn't talked to in awhile. Anyways, around the same time that we were receiving information about it, he started to receive information from his guidance. There is a lot more to the account, but suffice it to say, I've experienced enough direct and indirect guidance and synchroncity to be VERY open minded to the concept. They are also talked about a lot in various different historical sources in various different ways. Serpent "people", dragons, etc show up all around the world in different ways. Heck, the scientific researcher who ran lab experiments with DMT, reported that a number of the volunteers all independently reported disturbing experiences with reptilian ET's. Now, I've had some direct, in my face experiences with ET's (not the above kind), so I have no doubt that ET's in general exist. My guidance has told me that most are from decent to very positive in nature. But like Robert A. Monroe, I've also been told that there are MANY groups out there, and the odds of them all being positive is unlikely. IP: Logged |
madambec55 Newflake Posts: 8 From: Sydney Registered: Oct 2019
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posted October 10, 2019 10:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Not that rare, they often have Libra placements, stuff in the 7H or sun conjunct venus.
Yes I am Libra rising/ Libra Mars, Aries Sun, I am more passive aggressive - but I can pop off if something is very unfair - but it takes a lot to get me there.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7926 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 11, 2019 01:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by moongaze: No, not in a general sense where one has to walk on eggshells around me. I'm rather laidback, having Mars in Taurus. I'd mostly get offended if someone is being rude towards me or to someone else when it's unnecessary. But I wouldn't usually act out towards someone unless I know them well because I hate causing a scene and have general anxiety when it comes to that sort of stuff. There is a slightly extroverted side that creeps out every so often when I feel comfortable in the moment, but otherwise I'm very, very introverted and am especially secretive with my feelings. My Moon is in the 12th house in Pisces though, exactly trining Pluto in Scorpio in the 8th, so I'm sure that has much to do with it.
Oh ok, i see. I thought the Moon on the cusp of Aries conj your Asc. But when in 12th Pisces and nowhere near the Asc,it is more private. I say this because I have Moon/Asc square in Can/Aries respectively.Getting angry publicly?Absolutely 
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7926 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 11, 2019 01:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Neptunians can indeed be overly trusting, and naive to the dark side in others and life. Bruce definitely had some of that, but he was quite aware of earthly corruption and knew/believed that nine eleven was an inside facilitated job. I guess that Libra thing doesn't apply to Libra Moons (or maybe the Virgo Saturn conjunction damps it down), because I don't think people find me especially charming. I think I could be more so, but go out of my way to not be. My brother is a Libra Sun with Venus Mars conjunction conjunct his Ascendant, and the ruling planet in Libra (barely). He apparently didn't feel he got enough attention or something at home, so he learned to hone his charm, as well as was born a magnetic person and is quite attractive physically (though shorter than average). Seeing that go a bit to the extreme, kind of turned me off from it. Charm can be a tool of manipulation, and I try to avoid that both in self and in others. There is certainly something to the whole Law of attraction thing, but I'm not a fan of that source. If you dig deeper, there are some major issues around them. Funny that you mention Icke. Icke was one of the reasons that for awhile I was overly skeptical of the whole reptilian ET thing. I don't particularly vibe with the guy and he has long struck me as being quite an attention seeker. However, I try to remain open minded to things, and I started asking my internal guidance if there was any truth to it, because of an experience I had working with a client with mild to moderate ID. He didn't have a particularly strong imagination, but he came to trust me and confided in me that one time when looking out his window at night, he saw this being that looked like what a reptilian ET is reported to look like. Like I said, I became curious as to if there was anything to it and I started to ask guidance with no preconceptions. My partner had a dream shortly after (and me not telling her any of this) that dealt with Reptilian ET's. I also ended up getting direct guidance about it. Then, a friend of mine, someone who I deeply respect spiritually and is even faster vibratory than Bruce Moen (this was literally laid out in a dream to me, where I was at a social function, and talking to Bruce and Bruce said intently to me, "go find so and so, he is more intune/aware than I am". He was referring to my friend who I hadn't talked to in awhile. Anyways, around the same time that we were receiving information about it, he started to receive information from his guidance. There is a lot more to the account, but suffice it to say, I've experienced enough direct and indirect guidance and synchroncity to be VERY open minded to the concept. They are also talked about a lot in various different historical sources in various different ways. Serpent "people", dragons, etc show up all around the world in different ways. Heck, the scientific researcher who ran lab experiments with DMT, reported that a number of the volunteers all independently reported disturbing experiences with reptilian ET's. Now, I've had some direct, in my face experiences with ET's (not the above kind), so I have no doubt that ET's in general exist. My guidance has told me that most are from decent to very positive in nature. But like Robert A. Monroe, I've also been told that there are MANY groups out there, and the odds of them all being positive is unlikely.
Totally off topic.But I would love to delve deeper.Perhaps under the forum "Universal codes"? This is all very fascinating  IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7926 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 11, 2019 03:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by madambec55: Yes I am Libra rising/ Libra Mars, Aries Sun, I am more passive aggressive - but I can pop off if something is very unfair - but it takes a lot to get me there.
So this would put a hole in the argument that Mars in house 1 would immediately default towards aggression right? I mean you have the ingredient and yet that is not the case.Are there other aspects to Mars or the Asc? Perhaps from Neptune? IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 12312 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 11, 2019 11:00 AM
He is a libra riser so again that neutralizes a lot his Aries energy since Venus rules his chart unless his Mars is afflicted but passive aggressive is an anger issue too just like self rightous anger.IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7926 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 11, 2019 11:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: He is a libra riser so again that neutralizes a lot his Aries energy since Venus rules his chart unless his Mars is afflicted but passive aggressive is an anger issue too just like self rightous anger.
Hmmm..I wonder. If I get angry at someone and then not talk to them until such time where I can address the issue with them one on one, is that "passive aggressiveness"? The silent treatment part is necessary for me as I find it difficult to pretend everything's hunky dory for that period of time. I have a friend whom likes to hang out with this guy who I think is an outright douche! My friend says he feels bad breaking off the friendship because the guy has no friends. I can see why that would be so He(the douche) is wealthy and treats people as if they owe him something or that he is better than they are. On one occasion when we were out,he said something brusque to me and I snapped at him.Then my friend backed him up and was defending him.I was livid! I didn't talk to either of them for the rest of the time we spent there together. After that,I called my friend over and had it out with him.I told him how I felt about what he did and said I wouldn't be spending any more time with him if he was with his douchey mate. Was I passive aggressive with the initial silent treatment?
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kani Knowflake Posts: 767 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted October 11, 2019 01:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Totally off topic.But I would love to delve deeper.Perhaps under the forum "Universal codes"? This is all very fascinating 
Yeah, me,too! Galactic, can you tell us more? there is also a theory that reptilian ETs are using the moon as their base.. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7926 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 11, 2019 05:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by kani: Yeah, me,too! Galactic, can you tell us more? there is also a theory that reptilian ETs are using the moon as their base..
Read that too somewhere...Oh yes, it was on Alex Coulier's writings from being a "contactee"  IP: Logged |
Robin Goodfellow Knowflake Posts: 308 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 11, 2019 06:37 PM
I think there are two types of Aries the rams and the lambs, I think I like the lamby bamby ones not sure about the full on stereotype rams. I'm not sure really how I might be with an 'aggressive' direct in your face types but I'm a gem so ...I don't know if she is hot I wouldn't mind I guess.IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 12312 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 11, 2019 07:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow: I think there are two types of Aries the rams and the lambs, I think I like the lamby bamby ones not sure about the full on stereotype rams. I'm not sure really how I might be with an 'aggressive' direct in your face types but I'm a gem so ...I don't know if she is hot I wouldn't mind I guess.
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ithinkimightbewrong Knowflake Posts: 255 From: Registered: Nov 2018
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posted October 11, 2019 09:33 PM
mercury and venus travel pretty close to the sun...so areis often have either pisces or taurus mercuries and venuses.... my brother is aries, but he has venus and mars in psicesIP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7926 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 12, 2019 12:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow: I think there are two types of Aries ; the rams and the lambs.I think I like the lamby bamby ones,not sure about the full on stereotype rams. I'm not sure really how I might be with an 'aggressive' direct in your face types but I'm a gem so ...I don't know if she is hot I wouldn't mind I guess.
I think Benedict Cumbermatch -Aries Moon- comes off as the lamb to me. I have known pretty rowdy Moon in Aries folks who can say whatever lol.And he surprises me as to how controlled he comes off -not to mention careful with words. But then again Saturn/Venus and Mercury are in Leo and conjunct. And Mars is in careful Virgo. Tom Hiddleston has the Moon in Aries too(conj my Asc in his case) and he comes across sensitive.It could be that Saturn/Jup conj in Lib in his case has him be very controlled. And with Mercury/Mars conjunct in Pisces, there is sensitivity(Pisc) in approach to assertion(Mars) of speech(Merc)? But i was suprised that he the Aries energy on the Moon.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7926 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 12, 2019 12:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by ithinkimightbewrong: mercury and venus travel pretty close to the sun...so areis often have either pisces or taurus mercuries and venuses.... my brother is aries, but he has venus and mars in psices
True. These can contribute a lot. This especially Mars. IP: Logged |
mourningfire Knowflake Posts: 27 From: Registered: Aug 2019
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posted October 12, 2019 12:40 AM
I have an aries sun and merc and I'm not "in your face" either. Could be my cap asc though, as I'm very big on keeping my composure no matter what. Someone actually told me I come off as "zen" the other day haha. Someone else told told me I seem "professional." I have sun contraparallel pluto and saturn so that probably plays into it, as well as sun square ascendant. IP: Logged |
DualGemV2 Knowflake Posts: 722 From: Toronto, Ontario Registered: Aug 2016
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posted October 12, 2019 01:12 AM
hmmm...The last two Aries that I've encountered had significant Pisces influences in them that made them more subdued. My Planets ========================================= ☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑ IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 4187 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted October 12, 2019 03:55 PM
I once read that is an Aries is not aggressive than they could be very passive aggressive. LOL guilty! Aries Sun and Saturn squares it so it's a bit of a damper on the Aries energy. IP: Logged |
Moonbeth Knowflake Posts: 343 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted October 12, 2019 04:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: I am one(Aries rising).And I wonder if they are a rare find?Any others out there?
My favourite colleague is like that. She's all action, hard work, she doesn't waste time theorising, she goes right into the action of working, she's very efficient, all Aries, but very modest, calm, nice, diplomatic too... Not only do I perfectly enjoy her as a person, I also feel she brings the best out of me as a worker, I am SO thankful to have her in my life  IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 12890 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 12, 2019 11:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: That is the loveliest thing I have heard in a long while. Thank you  I think its because I feel connected to people on here as all of them nurture me in ways that are hard to explain(Ceres in Aqua sextile Sun in Sag exact from the 11th);the insights,the humour,the sensitivity, the sense of community and even the DRAMA!  So even as it may seem like I am "helping" another.I am myself being helped tenfold to come to a better understanding of me. Its pure ecstasy. This is especially when the posts are candid, personal, earnest...bravo to all 
You're welcome. I've been feeling too defensive over the last couple of weeks, and it just occurred to me when I thought of you and your thread - because I feel comfortable around you. I suppose I can be ram-like when I'm defensive. When I had trouble here before, years ago, I didn't leave, because I refused to be pushed out over something I hadn't done. I got angry a few times, then disappeared for a few months, just for my own mental health, and also because I didn't want to be disruptive. I can admit when my attitude sucks, and I feel horrible whenever I argue with someone (hate even more, causing stress for others). Being able to admit it, doesn't take away from any stress or pain that it might have caused - it still sucks (so I don't go along with "at least I'm honest" because someone can be honest, and still be kind, in most cases). Depending on how well I know someone, I'll usually remain quiet if I take something personally and wait and see if it's a one-off, just me being insecure, or if there's more to it. I tend to snap when I don't expect something. For example, I was really quiet in school, after a certain age. When a teacher accused me of something I didn't do (nothing big, but would mean I hadn't been paying attention), she yelled at me across the room. I was so surprised, that I yelled back, and we argued for a while. I was in tears the entire time, and she finally sent me to the bathroom to clean myself up. I was in there, still trying to swallow sobs, when she walked in and apologized. She said she didn't think I would take it so hard. When I walked back into the classroom, the boy across from me, mocked me, and the boy next to him said, "Oh, don't, you might start her off again." And then my energy will be off for a while, as it has been. Like, "Oh god, I'm a horrible person, because I lost my temper." I tend to take a lot from other people, though. Except for when it comes to politics. There's just too much going on, and it could have been avoided. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 7926 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 13, 2019 12:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by mourningfire: I have an aries sun and merc and I'm not "in your face" either. Could be my cap asc though, as I'm very big on keeping my composure no matter what. Someone actually told me I come off as "zen" the other day haha. Someone else told told me I seem "professional." I have sun contraparallel pluto and saturn so that probably plays into it, as well as sun square ascendant.
I think the Cap Asc part makes sense.I have a friend with Cap Asc and Saturn square Ascendant....very reserved. His Moon/Mars is conjunct in Pisces and so perhaps that also contributes? Saturn on Sun likes to keep straight face and can come off as serious.It does negate any impulsive actions and may inhibit the expression of extreme emotions. True. Where is your Mars/Moon?
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