posted October 13, 2019 12:30 AM            

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The last two Aries that I've encountered had significant Pisces influences in them that made them more subdued.

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posted October 13, 2019 12:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
I once read that is an Aries is not aggressive than they could be very passive aggressive. LOL guilty!
Aries Sun and Saturn squares it so it's a bit of a damper on the Aries energy.

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Really? The passive aggressiveness you speak of is often attributed to Libra/Cancer from what I have read. More so Mars there.

posted October 13, 2019 12:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Moonbeth:
My favourite colleague is like that. She's all action, hard work, she doesn't waste time theorising, she goes right into the action of working, she's very efficient, all Aries, but very modest, calm, nice, diplomatic too... Not only do I perfectly enjoy her as a person, I also feel she brings the best out of me as a worker, I am SO thankful to have her in my life

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posted October 13, 2019 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
You're welcome. I've been feeling too defensive over the last couple of weeks, and it just occurred to me when I thought of you and your thread - because I feel comfortable around you.

I suppose I can be ram-like when I'm defensive. When I had trouble here before, years ago, I didn't leave, because I refused to be pushed out over something I hadn't done. I got angry a few times, then disappeared for a few months, just for my own mental health, and also because I didn't want to be disruptive.

I can admit when my attitude sucks, and I feel horrible whenever I argue with someone (hate even more, causing stress for others). Being able to admit it, doesn't take away from any stress or pain that it might have caused - it still sucks (so I don't go along with "at least I'm honest" because someone can be honest, and still be kind, in most cases). Depending on how well I know someone, I'll usually remain quiet if I take something personally and wait and see if it's a one-off, just me being insecure, or if there's more to it.

I tend to snap when I don't expect something. For example, I was really quiet in school, after a certain age. When a teacher accused me of something I didn't do (nothing big, but would mean I hadn't been paying attention), she yelled at me across the room. I was so surprised, that I yelled back, and we argued for a while. I was in tears the entire time, and she finally sent me to the bathroom to clean myself up. I was in there, still trying to swallow sobs, when she walked in and apologized. She said she didn't think I would take it so hard. When I walked back into the classroom, the boy across from me, mocked me, and the boy next to him said, "Oh, don't, you might start her off again." And then my energy will be off for a while, as it has been. Like, "Oh god, I'm a horrible person, because I lost my temper."

I tend to take a lot from other people, though. Except for when it comes to politics. There's just too much going on, and it could have been avoided.

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There was a time when there were a lot of flare ups on Lindaland and people left. That was unfortunate. And perhaps much of it was that people were not respectful of each other's opinions or at least not mindful of the tone they use to put their message across(this comes through in the writing mind you).

The "candid" stance I spoke of earlier was not in reference to opinions people share of things outside of them.But more to what is going on with them personally etc.

Like you in the above post became honest and shared your life experience.That is what I mean by that. As I am aware that sometimes when people claim "candor" in issues outside their personal lives, they can be rude and offensive.And this happened a lot on here which lead to many fall outs.

When an issue doesn't affect us, we claim "objectivity" and can be slanderous. Even as we claim that we don't mean to offend. So I stay away from all of that as ot brings everyone(myselr included) down.

In other news, something occurred to me the other day whilst at a seminar with many others.That my Asc in Aries tends to want to push forward and be noticeable(this despite other afflictions that may not be as "imposing")

I recall asking questions in a room full of people and debating with the speaker. I have little idea why I get into that(probably Mars in Libra square Mercury) but I found the speaker's point of view so limited. And the group seemed to applaud and agree with me on my points.

Now of course I was trying not to be offensive or accusatory. But kept a respectful and calm demeanour throughout. Even when the speaker was not really understanding my argument.

Ego gets involved in things we say and write.So being "offended" or "offending" is heightened the more public the space is.Because no one wants to lose face or be looked at as "dumb" by others.

posted October 13, 2019 04:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Does your colleague have easy Sun/Mars or Venus/Mars aspects?

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posted October 13, 2019 02:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I think the Cap Asc part makes sense.I have a friend with Cap Asc and Saturn square Ascendant....very reserved. His Moon/Mars is conjunct in Pisces and so perhaps that also contributes?

Saturn on Sun likes to keep straight face and can come off as serious.It does negate any impulsive actions and may inhibit the expression of extreme emotions. True.

Where is your Mars/Moon?

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I feel like personal planets in pisces always add a receptiveness quality to people so I can definitely see that tapering down the impulsiveness and reactivity of aries. I have a friend who has her sun and mars conjunct in pisces. She has that innocent, sweet pisces thing going on but is also quietly assertive and frequently verbalizes how impatient she is (she has her venus in aries, too). To me, she epitomizes the contradictory aries-pisces mix.

posted October 13, 2019 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by mourningfire:
I feel like personal planets in pisces always add a receptiveness quality to people so I can definitely see that tapering down the impulsiveness and reactivity of aries. I have a friend who has her sun and mars conjunct in pisces. She has that innocent, sweet pisces thing going on but is also quietly assertive and frequently verbalizes how impatient she is (she has her venus in aries, too). To me, she epitomizes the contradictory aries-pisces mix.

I have moon in taurus (4th) squaring mars in leo (7th).

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Moon in Taurus....boom! Thats the "Zen" part. That's what overrides the chilly Cap Asc and is all about composure.

posted October 13, 2019 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonbeth:
I have no idea about the rest of her chart, all I can say is she's nearing her 60's and soundly identifies with her Christian upbringing, she's one of those people who really embody the best of those kind values on a daily basis.

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posted October 13, 2019 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Moon in Taurus....boom! Thats the "Zen" part. That's what overrides the chilly Cap Asc and is all about composure.

Cap Asc has been called many things ime, but "zen" is not one of them lol.

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posted October 13, 2019 05:21 PM            

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Originally posted by mourningfire:
That makes sense! Tbh though, I think she wanted to say "indifferent" or "cold" instead of zen but she was trying to be polite lmaoooo. I definitely think I come across as distant way more than zen.

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My friend has Cap Asc/Sun in Aqua. He is gorgeous. Saturn gives amazing bone structure.And when we initially met, I thought he'd be a great model.

But in the same breath, I was NOT romantically attracted to him at all.I just admired his beauty from a distance(it seems) and was not interested beyond that.

The thing I felt most obvious with him was the cold, chilly energy. It was off putting for my Cancer Moon energy. And it came at me like a heavy force of gravity, devoid of form but very dominating overall.

I kept squeezing conversation out of him. But he responded with one word answers before long uncomfortable stares(similar to what I get with the heavy duty Cap Moon placement).

As the night ended,I felt relief and thought "this is probably the last time I will ever see this guy again".So i was indifferent to his non responsive attitude-and became as bubbly as ever. LOL.

After that however,he was very persistent with being friends with me.He would always call, follow up with me and even after some time.of conversing, he awkwardly expressed romantic interest.But I was like "no way".

Had he not insisted on that, I would have walked out his life without looking back.Really, I was unbothered.But upon knowing him much deeper, our friendship has endured for years(14 years)

Cap Asc is extremely distant energy.This ,especially when paired with Aqua.Yikes!

posted October 13, 2019 08:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
My friend has Cap Asc/Sun in Aqua. He is gorgeous. Saturn gives amazing bone structure.And when we initially met, I thought he'd be a great model.

But in the same breath, I was NOT romantically attracted to him at all.I just admired his beauty from a distance(it seems) and was not interested beyond that.

The thing I felt most obvious with him was the cold, chilly energy. It was off putting for my Cancer Moon energy. And it came at me like a heavy force of gravity, devoid of form but very dominating overall.

I kept squeezing conversation out of him. But he responded with one word answers before long uncomfortable stares(similar to what I get with the heavy duty Cap Moon placement).

As the night ended,I felt relief and thought "this is probably the last time I will ever see this guy again".So i was indifferent to his non responsive attitude-and became as bubbly as ever. LOL.

After that however,he was very persistent with being friends with me.He would always call, follow up with me and even after some time.of conversing, he awkwardly expressed romantic interest.But I was like "no way".

Had he not insisted on that, I would have walked out his life without looking back.Really, I was unbothered.But upon knowing him much deeper, our friendship has endured for years(14 years)

Cap Asc is extremely distant energy.This ,especially when paired with Aqua.Yikes!

Just found out about my biological Father in my 30's
He is Aqua Sun/Cap Moon/Merc Cap/Ven Aqu/ Mars in Cap.I never know what to say to him. So I never call him.Ever

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We can seem so cold bc we never give anything away on our face. And we don't have a problem coming off that way either. Well, most of the time

All the aquas I've known have either been super zany/air-y and social or very reserved. What's made the difference ime has always been whether or not they have cap placements. A cap merc will shut down the airiness so fast

posted October 22, 2019 03:09 AM            

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Originally posted by mourningfire:
We can seem so cold bc we never give anything away on our face. And we don't have a problem coming off that way either. Well, most of the time

All the aquas I've known have either been super zany/air-y and social or very reserved. What's made the difference ime has always been whether or not they have cap placements. A cap merc will shut down the airiness so fast

My dad's a cap moon and mars too but an aqua merc. Cap moons EPITOMIZE the whole cap coldness thing for me. They're rocks, there's no other way I can describe them. I've gotten really good at spotting it in people, especially men. There's just such a potency about it, all I have to do is look at them and I just know. Like Bryan Cranston, I knew he had a cap moon instantly. Instantly!

I have to admit, it's usually endearing to me though. Something about that energy feels familiar. Maybe bc their moon ends up either in my 1st or 12th house. I never feel intimidated by them, but it's not exactly a warm feeling either, I mean that distance is absolutely there. The shared silences never feel awkward, I guess that's the best way I can put it lol.

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Its interesting that you say Bryan comes across Cap to you whereas to me, he came across quite animated lol.

Someone who epitomizes the Cap energy for me is James Earl Jones. Such an authority figure. And they use him a lot for "father" related roles i.e "Mufasa" on Lion King being the most famous.

He has Asc in Cap, Sun/Moon/Mercury/Saturn in Cap. The added Mars in Leo adds a "fixed" aura to the energy and complementing the Cap somehow.

But with Venus in Sag/Mars in Leo and Uranus in Aries as a grand trine in fire,I think there is an eccentric and maverick side to him which may offset the heavy Saturn energy.

He made an appearance on Will&Grace when people were still up in arms about the gay marriage thing (many of them still stuck there ofcourse) and actors were avoiding such polarizing shows.

James appeared as himself and shared a scene with the amazing Sean Hayes(Jack MMcFarland). And in the scene, Jack was helping James to improve his "acting" The results were hilarious orcourse.

posted October 22, 2019 10:00 AM            

My mom is the firecracker type of Aries - bold, assertive, opinionated and downright aggressive at times - while my dad is the complete opposite. He has a very calming, serene energy. He will insert his opinion where necessary but will never force it on others without being prompted. He is loyal, simple, stable, a homebody, a creature of comfort, loves children and gets along with just about everyone. Women and men alike find him very approachable and not at all threatening. "Nice guy" is a good way to describe him. The only time I've seen him angry about something is when someone does something that he doesn't agree with or believes should be done differently, so I guess that's where he can be stubborn and set in his ways. So stubborn sometimes that he will write someone off if he determines it's not worth his time to engage them any further. He won't go out of his way to start an argument unprovoked though. He has a very long fuse that way. I think a lot of his energy is directed inwards, so he uses exercise as an outlet to burn some of that off. It keeps him sane. I think that also causes him to hold himself to a higher standard so he works very hard and will finish anything he starts.

posted October 22, 2019 01:36 PM            

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My parents are both Aries Suns (their birthdays being a day after the other) and it's been SO interesting for me learning about astrology to see how two people with Suns conjunct almost exact can be so different from each other depending on their chart overall.

My mom is the firecracker type of Aries - bold, assertive, opinionated and downright aggressive at times - while my dad is the complete opposite. He has a very calming, serene energy. He will insert his opinion where necessary but will never force it on others without being prompted. He is loyal, simple, stable, a homebody, a creature of comfort, loves children and gets along with just about everyone. Women and men alike find him very approachable and not at all threatening. "Nice guy" is a good way to describe him. The only time I've seen him angry about something is when someone does something that he doesn't agree with or believes should be done differently, so I guess that's where he can be stubborn and set in his ways. So stubborn sometimes that he will write someone off if he determines it's not worth his time to engage them any further. He won't go out of his way to start an argument unprovoked though. He has a very long fuse that way. I think a lot of his energy is directed inwards, so he uses exercise as an outlet to burn some of that off. It keeps him sane. I think that also causes him to hold himself to a higher standard so he works very hard and will finish anything he starts.

He is a Cap ASC/Aries Sun(3)/Taurus Moon(4)/Pisces Mercury(2)/Taurus Venus(3)/Sag Mars(12).

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Taurus Moon mellows the nature out.Even when Aries is in the exalted solar position, it will still will be more reserved than excitable.

Well,that's unless you are Elton John-who has Moon/Mars conj square Uranus( erratic temper). And you also have Saturn/Pluto squaring the Moon(pent up emotional rage).

If that's the case, you are as peaceful as smouldering volcanoe

Does your Mom have Moon/Mars square, Moon in fire or possibly Moon in Gemini?

posted October 22, 2019 03:36 PM            

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Taurus Moon mellows the nature out.Even when Aries is in the exalted solar position, it will still will be more reserved than excitable.

Well,that's unless you are Elton John-who has Moon/Mars conj square Uranus( erratic temper). And you also have Saturn/Pluto squaring the Moon(pent up emotional rage).

If that's the case, you are as peaceful as smouldering volcanoe

Does your Mom have Moon/Mars square, Moon in fire or possibly Moon in Gemini?

Sometimes when two same signs come together, one is the calmer one whilst the other takes it up a notch. Like the "good cop/bad cop" thing.

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The way it stands her Moon is at 29 deg. Virgo in the 1st, opp. Mercury, trine Mars and sextile Uranus. She had her birth time recorded, but back in the 50's who knows how accurate it was. Moon in the 1st I can definitely see though as she holds virtually nothing back. She is more subdued with strangers but warms up very fast. With the people she knows well and loves there are no limits lol.

If my dad wasn't so loyal and patient, I don't think they would still be together 34+ years later. Perhaps having trined moons helps (Taurus/Virgo).

posted October 22, 2019 04:31 PM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
The way it stands her Moon is at 29 deg. Virgo in the 1st, opp. Mercury, trine Mars and sextile Uranus. She had her birth time recorded, but back in the 50's who knows how accurate it was. Moon in the 1st I can definitely see though as she holds virtually nothing back. She is more subdued with strangers but warms up very fast. With the people she knows well and loves there are no limits lol.

If my dad wasn't so loyal and patient, I don't think they would still be together 34+ years later. Perhaps having trined moons helps (Taurus/Virgo).

I can definitely see the good cop/bad cop dynamic with them. My dad was always the voice of reason in our house (unless he was pushed to his absolute limit then his temper would flare).

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Yeah, I thought there is a definite Mercury influence when you mentioned "firecracker". The assertion you speak of is Mercury.

Mercury finds every reason to express itself(this especially when in hard aspect to Moon). So when in the 1st house, its out there in its full unedited version and has a "first felt-first published to all" outcome.

Does she say things now to later change her mind later on? Is she all up in her feelings most times and hard to talk to when calm and reason are needed?

Do you feel that you have to tiptoe around her in order to not have her react in a volatile manner? That can be Moon in 1st in hard aspect to Mercury or Mars for sure.

I find it interesting that your Dad and Mom appear to be different.But noticing that his 7th house ruler (Moon) is in the 4th, he is attracted to her because of her emotions.

posted October 25, 2019 02:22 PM            

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Yeah, I thought there is a definite Mercury influence when you mentioned "firecracker". The assertion you speak of is Mercury.

Mercury finds every reason to express itself(this especially when in hard aspect to Moon). So when in the 1st house, its out there in its full unedited version and has a "first felt-first published to all" outcome.

Does she say things now to later change her mind later on? Is she all up in her feelings most times and hard to talk to when calm and reason are needed?

Do you feel that you have to tiptoe around her in order to not have her react in a volatile manner? That can be Moon in 1st in hard aspect to Mercury or Mars for sure.

I find it interesting that your Dad and Mom appear to be different.But noticing that his 7th house ruler (Moon) is in the 4th, he is attracted to her because of her emotions.

He may altogether be projecting his more emotional side to his partner(7th house in Cancer) and since your Mom has Moon in 1st, she fulfills the role(albeit in an extreme manner)

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Yes! We do have to tip toe around her sometimes. Particularly after she's had a glass of wine...woah boy. No filter to the extreme. It can quickly turn volatile in her case and then it is almost impossible to reel her back in. There is a ton of backstory from her childhood that helped form the person she is today, and so I think these characteristics are amplified because of it (how a chart of one person can vary so differently from another). There have definitely been moments where she has said one thing and then changed her tune the next day, almost as if it never happened. Or at least she plays it off like it was no big deal.

posted October 29, 2019 08:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Really? The passive aggressiveness you speak of is often attributed to Libra/Cancer from what I have read. More so Mars there.

I have the opinion that Saturn adds a large dose of restraint on the planet it touches. This especially when Asc/Sun or Moon. Very interesting...

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I have Cancer Jupiter, but people are more likely to guess I am a Cancer before Aries. Aries is one of the last things people will guess about me.

I have no Libra in my chart. Kind of glad.

I never really appreciated Saturn squaring my Sun until lately. I have a friend with Aries Moon and she is way more impulsive and impatient than me. It kind of makes me feel like thank God I have something squaring my Sun so I can focus on tasks, and not decide to go kayaking when I have a paper to turn in that night.
Or feeling like I have to go on a vacation immediately because their friend is going on a vacation.

I have an Aries rising friend who is totally aggressive. She is four years older than me, so she use to talk to me like her younger siblings at times. It wasn't until I was more mature in my mid 20's that I told her to mind her business. LOL

posted October 30, 2019 02:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
I have Cancer Jupiter, but people are more likely to guess I am a Cancer before Aries. Aries is one of the last things people will guess about me.

I have no Libra in my chart. Kind of glad.

I never really appreciated Saturn squaring my Sun until lately. I have a friend with Aries Moon and she is way more impulsive and impatient than me. It kind of makes me feel like thank God I have something squaring my Sun so I can focus on tasks, and not decide to go kayaking when I have a paper to turn in that night.
Or feeling like I have to go on a vacation immediately because their friend is going on a vacation.

I have an Aries rising friend who is totally aggressive. She is four years older than me, so she use to talk to me like her younger siblings at times. It wasn't until I was more mature in my mid 20's that I told her to mind her business. LOL

My Aries Venus friend is sweet, but I've seen her get like "WTF are you doing?" I use to work with her and she got sassy once like "Why did that take you so long seriously?" And I simply explained that one of the boys that went inside the classroom with me started taking off all of his winter gear. Then she understood, and knows that he gets confused and does that.

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Yeah, Saturn puts responsibility and duty before anything else.And that includes romance and fun.

I have Neptune/Sun conj. I can come across very "distant" to others.The Jupiter trine to the Asc in Aries just adds this "distant" impression. Not agressive, just distant.

posted November 01, 2019 04:23 AM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
My parents are both Aries Suns (their birthdays being a day after the other) and it's been SO interesting for me learning about astrology to see how two people with Suns conjunct almost exact can be so different from each other depending on their chart overall.

My mom is the firecracker type of Aries - bold, assertive, opinionated and downright aggressive at times - while my dad is the complete opposite. He has a very calming, serene energy. He will insert his opinion where necessary but will never force it on others without being prompted. He is loyal, simple, stable, a homebody, a creature of comfort, loves children and gets along with just about everyone. Women and men alike find him very approachable and not at all threatening. "Nice guy" is a good way to describe him. The only time I've seen him angry about something is when someone does something that he doesn't agree with or believes should be done differently, so I guess that's where he can be stubborn and set in his ways. So stubborn sometimes that he will write someone off if he determines it's not worth his time to engage them any further. He won't go out of his way to start an argument unprovoked though. He has a very long fuse that way. I think a lot of his energy is directed inwards, so he uses exercise as an outlet to burn some of that off. It keeps him sane. I think that also causes him to hold himself to a higher standard so he works very hard and will finish anything he starts.

He is a Cap ASC/Aries Sun(3)/Taurus Moon(4)/Pisces Mercury(2)/Taurus Venus(3)/Sag Mars(12).

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I'm mostly like your dad. Any aggressiveness that has come out, has been because it was brought out by things that happened. Now I wonder if I will ever fully revert to who I used to be. I literally had to fight (mentally, physically) to defend myself. I was talking to a friend who is in treatment for PTSD, and reassured her that I used to write everything down, I'd list everything that happened, to remind myself of why I was feeling the way I was, why things happened, so that others couldn't rewrite history, and I also would talk about it to anyone online, so that there was a record somewhere. Maybe that's why I still talk about it: a reminder of why I feel the way I do now, what I'm still dealing with in ways, and emotionally. So that people can't rewrite history.