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Aries23Degrees
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posted October 08, 2019 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am one(Aries rising).And I wonder if they are a rare find?

Any others out there?

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posted October 08, 2019 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not one, but I'm curious. Would you consider yourself a person of action, but with added sensitivity because of Moon square Asc?

So too sensitive to others and to feelings to be aggressive, but still action-oriented?

How ambitions vs people/family oriented?

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posted October 08, 2019 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My good friend is that Aries (sun), Leo rising. She is one of the most non-confrontational Aries I've met. Her Venus in Pisces makes her forgiving and positive and cooperative (moon in Libra opposite Jupiter).

I barely see her erupt in anger and say anything mean with her Mars trine moon and sextile Mercury. If anything, she would walk away. She suppresses her anger and tears comes falling.

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Didn't realize you mean Aries rising. Excuse my selective reading!

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posted October 08, 2019 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not that rare, they often have Libra placements, stuff in the 7H or sun conjunct venus.

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posted October 08, 2019 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an Aries stellium of Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus and a few more stuffs, with Virgo AC, and I’m not really confrontational. I can be assertive but I’m sensitive to others, empathetic, and dislike conflicts.

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posted October 08, 2019 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I'm not one, but I'm curious. Would you consider yourself a person of action, but with added sensitivity because of Moon square Asc?

So too sensitive to others and to feelings to be aggressive, but still action-oriented?

How ambitions vs people/family oriented?


A person of action...yes. But there is sensitivity in the decision-making process(which makes it slower and other people inclusive). I was also thinking that this could be my Mars in Libra opp the Asc effect mostly.

In my head, I have decided but now the reality emerges and there are other people's feelings to consider i.e other people will be quick to remind me of how insensitively I acted(god forbid)

I am more ambitious than family oriented.But there is guilt over that too.Like I am supposed to "want" family but feel that it would stifle my independence a lot.

Like presently I am wrestling with the very real possibility of moving abroad for the career(and that excites me).But in the same breath, there is guilt that my siblings will be on their own and I will not be there to tend to them

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posted October 08, 2019 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
My good friend is that Aries (sun), Leo rising. She is one of the most non-confrontational Aries I've met. Her Venus in Pisces makes her forgiving and positive and cooperative (moon in Libra opposite Jupiter).

I barely see her erupt in anger and say anything mean with her Mars trine moon and sextile Mercury. If anything, she would walk away. She suppresses her anger and tears comes falling.

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Didn't realize you mean Aries rising. Excuse my selective reading!


This is fine. I meant personal planet Aries placements too.

I guess its her Moon in Libra that softens her approach? Coz I know of an Aries Sun/Leo Asc with Mars in Libra that is super pushy!

So I don't always get how this works.But i guess its because this Aries has Moon in 1st too?So they think their feelings are EVERYTHING?

I have Mars in Libra opp Asc.I have heard it plenty times of how "chilled" I come across and sensitive (even on this forum).I have no planets in 1st but quite a couple in the 7th.


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posted October 08, 2019 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Not that rare, they often have Libra placements, stuff in the 7H or sun conjunct venus.

Oh ok...bingo. I have 7h placements with Mars(ruler) in Libra.

Sometimes I think my Asc is not at all the Aries I read about.

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posted October 08, 2019 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
I have an Aries stellium of Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus and a few more stuffs, with Virgo AC, and I’m not really confrontational. I can be assertive but I’m sensitive to others, empathetic, and dislike conflicts.

Wow.One would assume you'd be an Aries powerhouse. Where is this stellium mostly placed? In the 7th or 8th? Like me, you could have a Western-heavy chart i.e 7-9th house heavy

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posted October 08, 2019 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She has sun Conjunct venus and moon so her sun in Aries will act more like a Libra and cancer, it does not surprise me she is very attuned to others and can be sensitive.

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posted October 08, 2019 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Oh ok...bingo. I have 7h placements with Mars(ruler) in Libra.

Sometimes I think my Asc is not at all the Aries I read about.


Yes with mars in Libra and moon in cancer you will have a high emotional intelligence and be very mindful of others, add both aspect your AC so it will show in how you interact with others.

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posted October 08, 2019 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This used to be me. I still prefer to be that way, and generally am. I told someone yesterday, that I can't get into one argument, otherwise at places like LL, I'm just a stereotypical Aries. In order to not be labeled that way, I would have to be a total lamb, which I practically was before I became a punching bag (literally).

It isn't a rare find. I know quite a few Aries who are like that, and have mentioned it before. They just aren't here.

*edit. Moon conjunct Venus, square Mars in Pisces. Scorpio ascendant conjunct Uranus, trine Mars in Pisces.

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posted October 08, 2019 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Oh ok...bingo. I have 7h placements with Mars(ruler) in Libra.

Sometimes I think my Asc is not at all the Aries I read about.


That's just it, it probably isn't, because you aren't a stereotype.

I remember my mother telling me, about a decade ago, that she was happy when I stood up for myself to someone, because I rarely did. I would stand up for other people, but not myself.

*edit. I'm very political now. I will always argue against certain things happening now.

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posted October 08, 2019 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3rd decan Aries is the least aggressive Aries and more to the Jovial side, Yes I believe in decans . 3rd decan co-ruler is Jupiter.

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posted October 08, 2019 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad is like that, aries sun conjunct moon at one degree aries, plus an aries mars, and he's the biggest teddy bear! Tears up at commercials every now and then. But he's got a Pisces mercury.

I've got aries moon, and a mars square pluto /jupiter in the first, and i may look mean i'm mostly playful and nothing phases me much. most you'll get out of me is a diss even if i'm fuming.
Leo rising , sag sun, sag mercury and scorp venus too. Must be my virgo mars keeping me all icy...

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posted October 08, 2019 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moongaze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me. I have an Aries Ascendant, but it's the only fire sign in my chart. I have only negative aspects to it, squaring both my Sun and Venus. My chart is overruled by Cancer and other water placements. I notice that others tend to assume that I'm some sort of dominant force at first glance, until they get to know me and realize that I am actually very shy and quiet underneath it all.

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posted October 08, 2019 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol repeatedly beats head against wall while repeating over and over to no one in particular..., "Planetary energy is so much stronger and more important than Sign, Planetary energy is so much stronger and more important than Sign..etc, etc. ad nauseum."

A really good example of this is a guy who for a few years, I placed on a fairly high pedestal as a spiritual teacher/revelator for me and my path. His name is Bruce Moen.

He had Aries Sun and late Capricorn Moon cusping Aquarius. But, more importantly, he had Libra Rising with Libra Neptune in his 1st, and the chart ruler, Venus, was in Taurus. He was quite well acquainted with astrology, and I remember seeing him one time refer to his lazy Libran or Venusian energy. (rather, more accurately, it would be a combo of the very strong Neptune and moderate Venus).

He was a very gentle, kind, wise, and loving Soul (and rather psychic for a male). We didn't always see eye to eye, especially towards the end, but for the most part, I deeply respected him. His books are some of the best spiritual/nonphysically focused and direct experience based books I have read.

He was predominantly Neptunian (and Arcturus was also in his 1st, though I'm not sure what the paran/Brady type picture looked like).

He and Robert A. Monroe are part of the same Spirit btw (Interesting note about that, Bob was a Scorpio Sun and Bruce had a Scorpio South Node. I know of a few incarnation cases where this pattern of same Sun to South Node occurred). Bruce wrote about finding this out at a Monroe Institute program in his 3rd book.

I had a dream about being in Bruce's class, which confirmed this information, as I saw Bruce's face morph into Bob's temporarily and back to his own. It was less about this specific information, and more about the concept that Bruce was talking about in that traditional reincanation theory wasn't quite so accurate, and that we have a larger/expanded self that creates and projects out various Soul selves to have lifetimes. My own guidance was confirming that concept, while also confirming Bruce's claim.

Anyways, Bruce was one of the fastest vibratory people that I have met and spent some time with. Definitely not the most, but within probably the top 10.

But being an Aries Sun still, and with his ruling planet in Taurus he could be a little self focused and overly fixed at times.

After his body died, he briefly visited me and let me know that he had become much more clearly aware of certain truths that we had disagreed on when he was alive, and that he had been very wrong/off, and there was a bit of an apologetic impression that came with this info.

(one being about a very negative ET group that is very involved with manipulating and causing major problems for humanity. He didn't seem to think that such a group existed, whereas my partner, a good and unusually spiritually intune friend of mine, and I all had received multiple guidance messages about this group).

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posted October 08, 2019 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
A person of action...yes. But there is sensitivity in the decision-making process(which makes it slower and other people inclusive). I was also thinking that this could be my Mars in Libra opp the Asc effect mostly.


You generously spend a lot of your time helping others here, when it comes to their relationships. You listen to them, and try to help. You also really look at the chart of the other person, and try to get a feel for them, or explain what they might be feeling/who they might be as a person.

Mars in the 7th, in Libra.

On another forum, five years ago, I received a PM from a man who pointed out how welcoming I was to everyone (Aries Sun, Moon conjunct Venus in Gemini). I don't like people to feel or be left out. I've noticed that you try to respond to people who have no other responses to their threads. That could also be your Sagittarius Sun, or your Moon in Cancer (wanting everyone to feel at home).

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posted October 09, 2019 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Yes with mars in Libra and moon in cancer you will have a high emotional intelligence and be very mindful of others, add both aspect your AC so it will show in how you interact with others.

I feel like a fish out of water with other Aries people in orbit. Its like it takes me longer to do things because I don't bypass the negotiation table.

Sometimes the irony of astrological interpretation is that one is blind to their own chart but more knowledgeable about those of others.

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posted October 09, 2019 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
This used to be me. I still prefer to be that way, and generally am. I told someone yesterday, that I can't get into one argument, otherwise at places like LL, I'm just a stereotypical Aries. In order to not be labeled that way, I would have to be a total lamb, which I practically was before I became a punching bag (literally).

It isn't a rare find. I know quite a few Aries who are like that, and have mentioned it before. They just aren't here.

*edit. Moon conjunct Venus, square Mars in Pisces. Scorpio ascendant conjunct Uranus, trine Mars in Pisces.


I enjoy debate. But is that "arguing"? This especially in real life.Not do much on here as words can be misconstrued and it can get personal very quickly.

On Lindaland, I am a lot more maternal. I don't know how that comes about really? Like I will read post from someone and literally feel the pain of the author come thrpugh.

I imagine their face and where they are sitting etc. I can even feel out their aspects(more so the Moon position). And I literally follow their chain of thought in the post that the response seems "clear" on my end.

This happens with posts about confusion and heartbreak etc. But it also depends on how effectively I am able to connect with the writer.

It is the strangest thing. Its like many of my responses write themselves.I never know what I will.say-till I say it.

The trick is to however not ramble on(am still working to minimize that)

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posted October 09, 2019 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
That's just it, it probably isn't, because you aren't a stereotype.

I remember my mother telling me, about a decade ago, that she was happy when I stood up for myself to someone, because I rarely did. I would stand up for other people, but not myself.

*edit. I'm very political now. I will always argue against certain things happening now.


I had that issue too. I agree with the YouTube video that suggested that the Asc is the energy that we are conditioned to play within the relationship dynamics of the early environment.

I have always felt that i was expected to "stand up",be the example, be honest and upright etc. and in times where I stuggled to grow the nerve or tempted to stick my head in the sand,I would think of someone I care for being in my shoes etc. And then the "standing up" part would be easier. Coz I would be standing up for "them".

I am too unhappy with politicians and politics. I have detached and gone the spiritual route-something I can control.

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posted October 09, 2019 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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3rd decan Aries is the least aggressive Aries and more to the Jovial side, Yes I believe in decans . 3rd decan co-ruler is Jupiter.

Really? My cousin spoken of earlier has her Moon on the cusp of Taurus. And she is very rowdy.

But then again her Sun/Moon are square-so perhaps this equates to inner discomfort more than the energy of the moon sign alone?

Moon/Pluto opp and Sun/Pluto square in her case.

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posted October 09, 2019 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
My dad is like that, aries sun conjunct moon at one degree aries, plus an aries mars, and he's the biggest teddy bear! Tears up at commercials every now and then. But he's got a Pisces mercury.

I've got aries moon, and a mars square pluto /jupiter in the first, and i may look mean i'm mostly playful and nothing phases me much. most you'll get out of me is a diss even if i'm fuming.
Leo rising , sag sun, sag mercury and scorp venus too. Must be my virgo mars keeping me all icy...


Does your Dad have Neptune in aspect to Sun/Moon?

You have a grand trine in fire.Wow. I missed out on that with my Moon in Cancer

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posted October 09, 2019 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by moongaze:
Me. I have an Aries Ascendant, but it's the only fire sign in my chart. I have only negative aspects to it, squaring both my Sun and Venus. My chart is overruled by Cancer and other water placements. I notice that others tend to assume that I'm some sort of dominant force at first glance, until they get to know me and realize that I am actually very shy and quiet underneath it all.

Are you easily offended or feel your emotional nature "out there" a lot? Cancer and Aries in my case mix to create Surface(Aries)sensitivity(Cancer)

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posted October 09, 2019 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Lol repeatedly beats head against wall while repeating over and over to no one in particular..., "Planetary energy is so much stronger and more important than Sign, Planetary energy is so much stronger and more important than Sign..etc, etc. ad nauseum."

A really good example of this is a guy who for a few years, I placed on a fairly high pedestal as a spiritual teacher/revelator for me and my path. His name is Bruce Moen.

He had Aries Sun and late Capricorn Moon cusping Aquarius. But, more importantly, he had Libra Rising with Libra Neptune in his 1st, and the chart ruler, Venus, was in Taurus. He was quite well acquainted with astrology, and I remember seeing him one time refer to his lazy Libran or Venusian energy. (rather, more accurately, it would be a combo of the very strong Neptune and moderate Venus).

He was a very gentle, kind, wise, and loving Soul (and rather psychic for a male). We didn't always see eye to eye, especially towards the end, but for the most part, I deeply respected him. His books are some of the best spiritual/nonphysically focused and direct experience based books I have read.

He was predominantly Neptunian (and Arcturus was also in his 1st, though I'm not sure what the paran/Brady type picture looked like).

He and Robert A. Monroe are part of the same Spirit btw (Interesting note about that, Bob was a Scorpio Sun and Bruce had a Scorpio South Node. I know of a few incarnation cases where this pattern of same Sun to South Node occurred). Bruce wrote about finding this out at a Monroe Institute program in his 3rd book.

I had a dream about being in Bruce's class, which confirmed this information, as I saw Bruce's face morph into Bob's temporarily and back to his own. It was less about this specific information, and more about the concept that Bruce was talking about in that traditional reincanation theory wasn't quite so accurate, and that we have a larger/expanded self that creates and projects out various Soul selves to have lifetimes. My own guidance was confirming that concept, while also confirming Bruce's claim.

Anyways, Bruce was one of the fastest vibratory people that I have met and spent some time with. Definitely not the most, but within probably the top 10.

But being an Aries Sun still, and with his ruling planet in Taurus he could be a little self focused and overly fixed at times.

After his body died, he briefly visited me and let me know that he had become much more clearly aware of certain truths that we had disagreed on when he was alive, and that he had been very wrong/off, and there was a bit of an apologetic impression that came with this info.

(one being about a very negative ET group that is very involved with manipulating and causing major problems for humanity. He didn't seem to think that such a group existed, whereas my partner, a good and unusually spiritually intune friend of mine, and I all had received multiple guidance messages about this group).


Thats the thing...i can't look past the sign because it is also extremely evident to me.So i read both together now

I have Mars conj Dsc for instance and that means being attracted to "Aries" right?The rough and tumble types? No. Not at all. And this is only when we consider Mars.

But if we see that Mars is in Libra and we add that Mars in Libra tends to suggest very charming folks who are assertively(Mars) charming(Libra) ,those who apply a lot of energy(Mars) into getting along(Libra) or even(as "Dog Whisperer" Cesar Millan would say) those who have "Calm assertiveness", then YES.

I have remained on good terms with many of my exes because of this-either they are Libra Sun/Asc or have many planets in Libra. I wouldn't describe them as aggressive at all but very charming, attractive & (annoyingly) very indecisive.

The Aries with Neptune in 1st probably didn't want to believe in those ET's because of Neptune. I have Nep/Sun conj and Neptune never wants to believe in "evil" but "perspective".

Add to that their 1st house Libra would have made them a master at coming across to palatable to others, persuasive, agreeable and sweet tongued. I myself with Mars in Libra would have probably enjoyed him too.

Its interesting what you mentioned there about him passing on and appearing to you in a changed frame of mind about malevolent forces manipulating humanity etc. As I think I was meant to read that and thank you for adding it.

I have been following Abraham Hicks for years now and the "Law of attraction" and whilst I agree with its profundity, I am also deeply disturbed my crimes/ diseases and unfortunate circumstances that seem to befall people very randomly.

The thought energy never asserts the presence of such things nor does it entertain much talk in that direction. And perhaps that's on purpose?

Seeing that there is much momentum and power in collective thought etc. The idea is to redirect the masses towards the affirmation of inner divinity and presence of source, instead of the speculation of an external dark presence and the dangerous light/dark power game with Source?

When on one hand I consider that there is the "your thoughts create your reality" school of thought that is juxtaposed but the random(atleast from my perspective) rape of infants/women etc. How can this square up neatly with divine laws?

That is the missing piece for me and the subsequent point of diffidence to believe in the law emphatically and holistically .

Then there is David Icke with his Reptilian theory and the amazing fellow countryman Credo Mutwa-who backs his (David)claims .

Not to mention Credo's own incredible experiences with ET's that fidget with reason /logic of what this thing called "life" is.And whether this world is really as its told to be? Aih,it's all very confusing.

Neptune's answer(in the face of all this) is to numb oneself out ,avoid or bury ones head in the sand until a "reality" that one agrees with, is created.Its a very passive state of mental being-nevermind how easily this state can be manipulated through staged "divine" intervention i.e "God spoke to me" stuff.

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