posted October 23, 2019 10:40 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Galactic: I have two good male friends who are Virgos (one might still lurk on this board, but he told me he'd never posted here). My best friend from this site, was a Virgo moon, too - one of my best friends.

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Makes sense, but often with strong 8th House connections, it's far more sexual than just a friend type connection. These are the kinds of patterns that indicate a hard time keeping away from someone because it's like you want to merge not just your body but your essence/Soul with them.

posted October 23, 2019 10:49 PM            

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I remember reading that we have something of our opposite signs in us. A Libra telling me that I wasn't like other female Aries she'd known, and she could be argumentative, which is what is placed on our shoulders. She could be lovely, too.

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This is especially true of Sun Signs (and to a lesser extent the Rising/Descendant). This is because Sun Signs don't involve just one planetary body. It's actually a pair. The Sun and the Earth. The Sun and Earth are always exactly opposite each other--there is a sort of reflection action that can happen with these.

It's a bit like the North Node and South Node.

One can think of the Earth placement (you being an Aries Sun, your Earth would be in Libra), as sort of like the South Node. There is almost like a "past" vibe and pattern there. Me, my Earth is in Cancer at the border of the 11th and 12th (or just 12th if one uses the equal house system).

I'm not the only astrology student to have noticed this. I believe Alan Oken also talks about this some (though, imo, he went off the deep end with the whole buying Bailey's esoteric astrology stuff hook, line, and sinker--I don't).

posted October 24, 2019 01:03 PM            

GalacticCoreExplosion this is my chart:

posted October 24, 2019 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Capricorns are definitely attracted to me, the midpoint between Virgo and Capricorn is SCORPIO so composite charts between virgo and cappy's have sun in scorpio. I attribute this attraction to this more than my venus conjunct mars in leo and the attraction is mutual.

GalacticCoreExplosion this is my chart:

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posted October 24, 2019 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I mean you are not Cancers but you are, hear me out lol....

You are all heart centered big softies, do you also have a great poker face that likes to hide your inner cancer? Some of you yes but if you feel comfortable you show more and more you are a super softie...

So 3 Capricorns in my team took the enneagram test and 2 of them scored 2 with a wing 3 and one 3 with a wing 2...2, 3 and 4 are heart centered in the enneagram, 2s are caretakers.

Capricorn definitely is yin and wants people to feel included, they are very mindful about this and like to help and feel needed..They are like the earth based solution focused version of Cancer. They are the masculine version of Cancer but still very much Yin.

I am starting to see signs as an axis, two sides of the same coin or like they are a spectrum so your opposite sign is just a variation of you from a different angle, you are not so opposite.

You get me? What do you guys think?

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Sun, Ascendant, Mercury, Venus, Vesta in Capricorn. And I very much agree.

posted October 24, 2019 07:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
They are very similar in my eyes too, the difference I guess is Capricorn is more stable with emotions while in Cancer not. But Cancer is more creative than Capricorn IMO.

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posted October 24, 2019 08:29 PM            

EDITED, realized I made a big mistake, and mixed up MMarie for Hypatia238.

posted October 24, 2019 11:31 PM            

I mean most of my life I was underweight in line with slight/slender until my mid 20s when I met my partner with Taurus rising and moon in cancer who is a foodie then I stopped been underweight but still slim and I was bony for a long time but I am white in line with my spanish ethnic background but I do have brown eyes and hair and curly brown hair.

Which is more likely to generate curly hair???

Saturn in Scorpio conjunct Pluto in Libra in the 10th house

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Jupiter conjunct Uranus in Sagittarius in the 12th House.

I thought it was weird that I was so skinny growing up and everyone was constantly pressuring me to gain weight even though I was a sag riser which tend to be more expansive in size or at least not be prone to been underweight LOL

My father is a sun in capricorn square neptune and I look like him, If I have AC in Capricorn conjunct Neptune this fits. My Neptune in Sag would still show since is near the AC so I would present as this hybrid of Sag and Cappy.

posted October 25, 2019 08:22 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I mean you are not Cancers but you are, hear me out lol....

You are all heart centered big softies, do you also have a great poker face that likes to hide your inner cancer? Some of you yes but if you feel comfortable you show more and more you are a super softie...

So 3 Capricorns in my team took the enneagram test and 2 of them scored 2 with a wing 3 and one 3 with a wing 2...2, 3 and 4 are heart centered in the enneagram, 2s are caretakers.

Capricorn definitely is yin and wants people to feel included, they are very mindful about this and like to help and feel needed..They are like the earth based solution focused version of Cancer. They are the masculine version of Cancer but still very much Yin.

I am starting to see signs as an axis, two sides of the same coin or like they are a spectrum so your opposite sign is just a variation of you from a different angle, you are not so opposite.

You get me? What do you guys think?

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cap stellium here.

posted October 25, 2019 08:42 AM            

Just realized I made a big mistake and mistook MMarie for Hypatia238. Sorry to both of you for that.

posted October 25, 2019 09:12 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
^^ohh let met just drop the bomb that you might be a Capricorn riser! hahahaha

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When us Jupitarians are not putting our foot in our mouths (or exhausted from lack of sleep, like I was yesterday), we be dropping truth bombs on the daily.

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I mean most of my life I was underweight in line with slight/slender until my mid 20s when I met my partner with Taurus rising and moon in cancer who is a foodie then I stopped been underweight but still slim and I was bony for a long time but I am white in line with my spanish ethnic background but I do have brown eyes and hair and curly brown hair.

Which is more likely to generate curly hair???

Saturn in Scorpio conjunct Pluto in Libra in the 10th house

Or

Jupiter conjunct Uranus in Sagittarius in the 12th House.

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Not generate as that implies causing. Chart doesn't cause anything, simply reflects/indicates what is already there genetically, psychologically, consciousness wise.

But it's tricky. On one hand, Sagittarius tends to indicate curly hair more than does Capricorn, but on the other hand, Scorpio is more inclined to indicate curly hair than even Sagittarius. But as you noted further below, if your Rising is very early Capricorn, then both via the cusping and via the Sag Neptune conjunction, there is a fair amount of Sagittarius shading in at the same time, so it makes things more complicated since you are as you say, a "hybrid" of the two.

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I thought it was weird that I was so skinny growing up and everyone was constantly pressuring me to gain weight even though I was a sag riser which tend to be more expansive in size or at least not be prone to been underweight LOL

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This potential issue is why if I'm going to do someone's natal, I either want to briefly meet them first or get a couple good pics of them. Helps one to do the quick and dirty rectification.

The archetype of Sagittarius is in youth, lean and lanky, but their metabolism is known to slow way down after their youth, but their tendency to excess doesn't, and so they can definitely pack it on. Capricorn on the other hand, tends to keep an unusually fast metabolism as a more constant and they tend to be both more sparing and disciplined in their eating habits (speaking only in an archetypal sense).

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My father is a sun in capricorn square neptune and I look like him, If I have AC in Capricorn conjunct Neptune this fits. My Neptune in Sag would still show since is near the AC so I would present as this hybrid of Sag and Cappy.

I mean you have surely given me something to think about! On another hand most cappies would land on my 1H anyways bc my 2nd house starts with cappy at 24 degrees.

It would explain why I was born surrounded by Capricorns, my mom, dad and brother are all Capricorns and my sister is a cancer, my husband is a Libra with moon in cancer which would fall on my angles too if you are right about the 30 minute difference that would put my AC in Cappy at Aries point. At work I am surrounded by 3 Capricorns and the director has moon in cappy with venus in cancer and we are a very small center, another has Venus in cancer, pretty much my whole team would fall on my 1H and 7H axis like my family. It would explain this weird phenomenon.

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First, I want to apologize for earlier. I originally thought I was responding to you when I was really responding to MMarie, and furthermore I thought "you" were speaking on "our" chart comparison, which is why I went into what I went into. I feel especially bad now that I know you're married. How untoward of me.

Re: the 1st House, that is true, but there would be a much stronger resonance with Capricorn Sun and Moons etc, if your Ascendant is technically in Capricorn. Sag and Capricorn don't have much in common and little innate attraction to each other. Often the Sign behind, doesn't particularly like the Sign ahead, because they don't understand and have a hard time perceiving what they are all about. (Out of all these cases, it probably least applies to the Capricorn Aquarius combo, but as you've probably noticed, I happen to think they share both traditional and modern rulers, so there is a slightly stronger resonance than usual in that particular set of combo).

posted October 25, 2019 11:38 AM            

Lol hahahaha yep I can relate, even if I have cap rising, I would then have Neptune in Saggitarius ruling my 3H and conjunct my AC and yes I speak my truth and let my intuition guide me and can be blunt bc I won't not say something if it comes from intuition, add I would still have mercury in the 9th.

I mean I dont know...See my pic below, do I look like a Cappy Saggy Hybrid? Or just Saggy?

As for the mix up I am the one that posted my natal chart so figured you quoted her response by mistake since your response was clearly about my chart, no biggie! You are been so cappy! Lol relax! As for you commenting on my chart and making comparisons I do that with everyone, its automatic bc we are astrologers, we cannot help it lol....

posted October 25, 2019 12:05 PM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
Your mars/ Venus sits right on my moon! And close to my sun. (I’ve actually thought this would be a perfect placement for a guy that id hope to meet haha) My mercury is also right in between your sun & mercury and my mars Sextile your moon.

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posted October 25, 2019 12:09 PM            

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Originally posted by sis:
Sun, Ascendant, Mercury, Venus, Vesta in Capricorn. And I very much agree.

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posted October 25, 2019 12:13 PM            

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Originally posted by coffeecuriosity:
cap stellium here.

you're right.

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posted October 25, 2019 12:34 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
This is me with my brother who has sun in capricorn and AC in Cancer....

What do you think Saggy Rising or Cappy Rising with Neptune in Saggy on the AC?....

...You are been so cappy!

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To me, you definitely look like you have strong Capricorn blending in. In the older astrology books of the times of B.P.C. (Before PC era), Capricorn was strongly associated with the Jews and Hebrews, and the descriptions of Capricorn Rising often gave one an impression of an archetypal/stereotypical Hebrew descent looking person (and all the Earth Signs correlate most to the darkest complexions in an archetypal sense with perhaps mid Taurus being the most swarthy).

Being of Hispanic heritage, as you probably already know, within a percentage of Hispanic descended people there is often some Moorish/Arabic blood from the Moorish invasion/conquest that happened in Spain (and of course, Arabic and Hebrew are both Semitic and very closely related).

I can see some of that Moorish/Arabic blood in you and your brother. But at the same time, I can also see the Sagittarius blending in some too, such as the widish mouth/smile, not that dark skinned, and more bubbly/laid back vibe. (In Caucasians, the Fire Signs and Planets correspond most to Celtic descent, and there is also plenty of that within Hispanic people as well. I've met actual Spaniards in Spain lighter and more Celtic looking than myself. Especially noticeable in the Galacia region. I hiked the Camino many years back).

Where is your brother's Moon and does he have any major aspects to his Ascendant?

P.S., thank you for understanding regarding my faux pas earlier. As to being Cappy, it's especially bad when one also has Libra Moon, Venus in 7th, and Pisces South Node in the 7th. There's always this little voice in the back of the head in Thumper's voice, "Mind your mannahs". Spent many years being a classic "people pleaser". But now I let out the Fire energy more (and occasionally the Scorp IC and moderate Pluto shows it teeth).

posted October 25, 2019 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Hypatia you look soo sweet!

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posted October 25, 2019 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
The slightly slanted, almond shaped eyes are also something that comes up a fair amount with Sagittarius as being part of an indicator.

I don't know what her Rising is, but Liv Tyler for example, looks to me like what a classic Sagittarius Rising is "supposed" to look like, in most ways. From the height, to the wide hips, to the long face, the wide mouth, and almond'ish shaped eyes.

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Liv has Sun in cancer and AC in Cancer with Moon in wait for it.......! Capricorn!!!!!!

posted October 25, 2019 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
To me, you definitely look like you have strong Capricorn blending in. In the older astrology books of the times of B.P.C. (Before PC era), Capricorn was strongly associated with the Jews and Hebrews, and the descriptions of Capricorn Rising often gave one an impression of an archetypal/stereotypical Hebrew descent looking person (and all the Earth Signs correlate most to the darkest complexions in an archetypal sense with perhaps mid Taurus being the most swarthy).

Being of Hispanic heritage, as you probably already know, within a percentage of Hispanic descended people there is often some Moorish/Arabic blood from the Moorish invasion/conquest that happened in Spain (and of course, Arabic and Hebrew are both Semitic and very closely related).

I can see some of that Moorish/Arabic blood in you and your brother. But at the same time, I can also see the Sagittarius blending in some too, such as the widish mouth/smile, not that dark skinned, and more bubbly/laid back vibe. (In Caucasians, the Fire Signs and Planets correspond most to Celtic descent, and there is also plenty of that within Hispanic people as well. I've met actual Spaniards in Spain lighter and more Celtic looking than myself. Especially noticeable in the Galacia region. I hiked the Camino many years back).

Where is your brother's Moon and does he have any major aspects to his Ascendant?

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My brother and I have the same mother but different dads. My father's parents are from Spain (Asturias and Valencia). Idk if my brother has Spanish background as my mother is adopted.

He has moon in Taurus conjunct Mars in Taurus, Moon in Taurus trine Sun, Moon in Taurus trine mercury, Moon in Taurus square Venus conjunct Jupiter. Moon in Taurus inconjunct Neptune potentially if time of birth is 💯 accurate.

posted October 25, 2019 03:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonbeth:
Hypatia, still giving JLo a run for her gorgeous looks 😉😊🤗💖😘

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Hahahahaha you are making me smile widely giving me this cute twinkle in my eyes and making me blush a little