posted October 22, 2019 08:11 PM            

You are all heart centered big softies, do you also have a great poker face that likes to hide your inner cancer? Some of you yes but if you feel comfortable you show more and more you are a super softie...

So 3 Capricorns in my team took the enneagram test and 2 of them scored 2 with a wing 3 and one 3 with a wing 2...2, 3 and 4 are heart centered in the enneagram, 2s are caretakers.

Capricorn definitely is yin and wants people to feel included, they are very mindful about this and like to help and feel needed..They are like the earth based solution focused version of Cancer. They are the masculine version of Cancer but still very much Yin.

I am starting to see signs as an axis, two sides of the same coin or like they are a spectrum so your opposite sign is just a variation of you from a different angle, you are not so opposite.

posted October 22, 2019 08:21 PM            

I've said before that if I started a charity I'd want a Capricorn on the board. Yes, they can sincerely perform charity, seeing it as a social responsibility. It might be paternalistic (or maternalistic) in tone, but it's sincere, while at the same time not going to be manipulated by BS, nor discouraged by BS because they already know it's there and are expecting it. They'll get through the BS, from both the system to some of the clients, to make it be all that it can be.

In fact, I've known some different school and library boards, and EVERYONE had a personal angle, whether it was a stepping stone to politics (which may or may not be honorable, but that was always foremost in their minds), pushing a personal agenda or corruption (such as getting favorable deals for relatives in contracts that was literally ripping off schools), or just to have power to exercise with narcissistic grandeur. The ONLY one who struck me as truly service-oriented (and called the others out on their BS) was a Capricorn who expected the rest of the school board to act responsibly and with honor so that they could provide a new generation (including his grandkids) who would, by their efforts, be mentored into becoming responsible and honorable themselves. (Though again, I don't know the charts of the others so it's possible some significant Cap energy was in the others less praiseworthy as well.)

posted October 22, 2019 09:17 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:

I am starting to see signs as an axis, two sides of the same coin or like they are a spectrum so your opposite sign is just a variation of you from a different angle, you are not so opposite.

You get me? What do you guys think?

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This is how I've viewed opposite signs for a long time, like two sides of the same coin. Just like opposite houses, one is like a more personal version and one the more collective version. But they need each other for a greater balance.

Isn't interesting that we have 6 pairs of Signs, and there are 6 major colors of light?

I think there is likely some deep metaphysical correlation there.

It also relates to complimentary colors. When you mix these in equal proportions, interesting things happen. Wavelength/vibration wise, it creates a standing wave. In art with pigment or light, it creates either neutral gray or white, I think.

Lol dare I say, Opposite Signs are like Twin Souls/Flames? Two different but ever connected halves that need each other to maintain a greater balance.

I almost always see opposite signs between major different symbols between charts of people that are very close and connected. Especially common are Sun Sign opposite Rising Sign and Sun Sign opposite Moon Sign. Then when you find Venus opposite Mars, the sexual attraction is electric and palpable.

(Shhh, stop telling everyone Capricorn's secrets, we work hard to convince people away from the truth of our soft innards. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCiZ8pMnLV4 ).

posted October 22, 2019 09:45 PM            

Individual self and others (collective).

The first 6 Signs and Houses represent the more individual self focused aspects of the Sign pairs, and the latter 6 Sign and House compliments represent the more other/collective focused aspects. (and the first Sign pair literally starts this off with self and others).

Both are equally important. You and I as an individual have just as much importance as the collective and Oneness and vice versa, but there is no separating the two, and if you as an individual don't keep a balance between the two focuses, well you'll get lopsided/imbalanced/polarized. This is why Love is so important because it is the unifying, harmonizing consciousness that maintains individuality while also allowing an individual self to experience the Oneness of the Whole.

posted October 22, 2019 11:04 PM            

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(Shhh, stop telling everyone Capricorn's secrets, we work hard to convince people away from the truth of our soft innards. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCiZ8pMnLV4 ).

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Hahahaha Your secret is out lol...I am telling the whole world!

I love that perspective that is two sides of the same coin but one the individual/more personal version and the other expands and has a more collective manifestation. I love how you look at things. But this is why I dont see them as opposites but more like a spectrum. .

I was hoping you would comment on this thread.

posted October 22, 2019 11:09 PM            

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There are some deeper metaphysical and spiritual truths encoded in astrology for those willing to dig deeper.

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That sounds fascinating! I would love to learn more...

posted October 22, 2019 11:14 PM            

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The vast majority of those I examined the charts of was those I liked rather than disliked, so based on that, Capricorns weren't jerks, and could be surprisingly sentimental (one I'd say was downright maudlin in a way).

I've said before that if I started a charity I'd want a Capricorn on the board. Yes, they can sincerely perform charity, seeing it as a social responsibility. It might be paternalistic (or maternalistic) in tone, but it's sincere, while at the same time not going to be manipulated by BS, nor discouraged by BS because they already know it's there and are expecting it. They'll get through the BS, from both the system to some of the clients, to make it be all that it can be.

In fact, I've known some different school and library boards, and EVERYONE had a personal angle, whether it was a stepping stone to politics (which may or may not be honorable, but that was always foremost in their minds), pushing a personal agenda or corruption (such as getting favorable deals for relatives in contracts that was literally ripping off schools), or just to have power to exercise with narcissistic grandeur. The ONLY one who struck me as truly service-oriented (and called the others out on their BS) was a Capricorn who expected the rest of the school board to act responsibly and with honor so that they could provide a new generation (including his grandkids) who would, by their efforts, be mentored into becoming responsible and honorable themselves. (Though again, I don't know the charts of the others so it's possible some significant Cap energy was in the others less praiseworthy as well.)

Oh yeah, I read on some internet site that Cappie Mars is Satan as for doing anything to get sex. I know one guy with a Cappie Mars who was sensual and was uninhibited when it came to sex, but he would not if it was unethical or if he thought that by doing so it would imply the ONLY reason he liked them was to get into their pants. Cappie Mars 1, Astrology site 0.

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posted October 22, 2019 11:15 PM            

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I love Capricorn energy 🤷🏼‍♀️😄.

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posted October 22, 2019 11:42 PM            

To play Devil's (our Tarot card--thanks Tarot creator(s)! :P ) advocate a bit, Capricorns can be hard arses and tune into tough love too though.

I have a couple memorable unhappy personal examples of this. A year after we moved a few states away from our home state, I got a call from my bio dad. My bio dad is alcoholic and was largely absentee when I was growing up. Visited occasionally but that was it.

Anyways, he said he was down on his luck and he asked if he could move in with us for a little while. Somewhat naively, I said yes.

It quickly became clear to me that he was in a cycle of drinking heavily, and after a number of shenanigans that crescendo'd in him throwing a punch at me, I told him very firmly, I'm sorry, but you have to leave. My dad is a great person when he is sober, but when he is drinking, well to someone rather intuitive/psychic like myself, I could almost see a black cloud of negative nonphysicals around him trying to and sometimes influencing him to his and other's detriments. I was not about to keep living with someone who allowed themselves to be a puppet to such nasty energies.

A handful of years or so later, my half brother (much younger than myself) who was living with my psychopathic step father, called me up and told me that his father was up and moving to Germany to shack up with some well off lady, and leaving him to fend for himself. He was 17 or 18 at the time, but not equipped psychologically and financially to take care of himself.

I told him he could live with me. Gave him many chances, and tried my utmost to be patient, loving, and forgiving with him, but the disrespect just continued, and he was starting to get me in trouble via his shenanigans (I was living in an apt. complex at the time, and he kept having his homeless friends stay over, which I was mostly ok with, but my landlady was very much not. He was also selling weed out of my place. One day I came home and my home theater system was gone. "Um, Johnny, where's my home theater system?" "Oh, I let my friends borrow it." "How come you didn't call me and ask me first?" "I couldn't get ahold of you." "Then wait till you can fer crying out loud.").

It broke my heart, but I had to kick him out. It was especially hard because when my mom died and my step father went to prison a little while after, my half brother and sister got put up for adoption. Shortly after, we tried to adopt them, and as they were not in their teens yet, they might have been helped. But because we had just moved out of state, the adoption process was taking a long time and they both got impatient and went with the first well meaning person connected to the family that would take them, but they were not prepared to put up with their damage/acting out behaviors. Though I tried and it wasn't my choice, I think part of me felt somewhat guilty about the whole thing and how it ended up.

Tough Love. Not easy to attune to or choose, but sometimes necessary.

Do you have your chart up here somewhere Hypatia238? I'm curious what it looks like. I like the way you look at things as well and how you question established "truths" and dogma.

posted October 23, 2019 12:06 AM            

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That sounds fascinating! I would love to learn more...

You should start a metaphysical club and have meet ups a few times a month, each meet up focuses around a topic, there could be a presentation or just a discussion or both! Ahhhhh sounds fun.

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You're making me blush..

But more seriously, that's an interesting idea and once I get certain aspects of my life together more (trying to grow an astrological practice is harder than one realizes), it's something to keep in mind and maybe try out.

If you ever visit central VA and I've got something like that going on, you're more than welcome to drop in.

But no telling Capricorn secrets, and no making me blush, or else, you'll meet a fate worse than death....

merciless tickling bwhahahaahaha.

posted October 23, 2019 02:10 AM            

I really had to think about this.. I'm the youngest of two siblings.

My older sister being a Capricorn and both my parents being Cancers.

I've noticed that both my Capricorn and Cancer parents will take charge and do things for the ones they love without asking and take the assumption its in the persons best intrest.

Of course Mr. Gemini didn't like it and would rather be free and do things his way and should have asked him first.

But yes Capricorns and Cancers have that trait of trying to go above, beyond and take charge.

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posted October 23, 2019 03:31 AM            

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I mean you are not Cancers but you are, hear me out lol....

You are all heart centered big softies, do you also have a great poker face that likes to hide your inner cancer? Some of you yes but if you feel comfortable you show more and more you are a super softie...

So 3 Capricorns in my team took the enneagram test and 2 of them scored 2 with a wing 3 and one 3 with a wing 2...2, 3 and 4 are heart centered in the enneagram, 2s are caretakers.

Capricorn definitely is yin and wants people to feel included, they are very mindful about this and like to help and feel needed..They are like the earth based solution focused version of Cancer. They are the masculine version of Cancer but still very much Yin.

I am starting to see signs as an axis, two sides of the same coin or like they are a spectrum so your opposite sign is just a variation of you from a different angle, you are not so opposite.

You get me? What do you guys think?

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posted October 23, 2019 04:03 AM            

Sincerely,

posted October 23, 2019 11:49 AM            

Oppositions really do represent the strongest and deepest attraction between the Signs.

Oddly, inconjunct relationships and Sign pairings can also indicate very strong attraction, but in that case, it's often more one sided. This is because it has a natural 6th-8th House connotation. The Sign/Planet combo that is acting as the one "capturing the other Planet's in their 8th House" often has a very intense magnetic draw for the other person.

I'll do a quick write of up these connections.

Strong Aries is attracted to strong Virgo in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Taurus is attracted to strong Libra in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Gemini is attracted to strong Scorpio in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Cancer is attracted to strong Sagittarius in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Leo is attracted to strong Capricorn in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Virgo is attracted to strong Aquarius in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Libra is attracted to strong Pisces in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Scorpio is attracted to strong Aries in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Sagittarius is attracted to strong Taurus in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Capricorn is attracted to strong Gemini in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Aquarius is attracted to strong Cancer in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Pisces is attracted to strong Leo in that 8th House kind of way.

It is these patterns more than most that can correspond and correlate with those oh so painful, unrequited "love"/attachment patterns. Because the Sign on the other side is usually a lot more "meh", and at best they try to be of helpful service to the other. Well to some extent, 5th House connections can relate some too to this unrequited, but these tend to be a bit more mutual than the 6th-8th Sign combos.

Lighter charts, energies, and charts though, sometimes don't like the feel of these kind of 8th House type patterns. It's too intense, heavy, binding, and/or unconsciously disturbing for them. People with strong Scorpio, Pluto, and/or 8th House tend to LOVE these kinds of connections.

If you're someone with a combo of very strong Aries (8th type attraction), Taurus (opposite attraction), and Cancer (5th House type attraction) (especially if these relate to Rising, Sun, Moon, Venus and Mars), and you're thinking of getting involved with someone with very strong Scorpio--if you don't like super intense and deep focus on you, or intensity in general, run for the hills!

The combo that would be most attracted to me, is far too mutuable and/or airy/detached to have that kind of intensity and longevity. (sad face) Any mix of a person with very strong Sagittarius, Pisces, and Aquarius. (These connections are often most noticeable in relation to one's Rising Sign).

And to a lesser extent Leo (1st to Rising, 8th to Sun, and 7th to Venus type connections), Taurus (5th to Sun and 8th to Moon), and Cancer (7th to Sun). (These relate more to my Sun, Rising, and/or Moon combo).

posted October 23, 2019 12:19 PM            

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Will say that opposite does work in describing the attraction between them though. Because they really do indicate a sort of coming together of like the north and south pole of a magnet (though sometimes they flip to the same polarity and repel).

Oppositions really do represent the strongest and deepest attraction between the Signs.

Oddly, inconjunct relationships and Sign pairings can also indicate very strong attraction, but in that case, [b]it's often more one sided. This is because it has a natural 6th-8th House connotation. The Sign/Planet combo that is acting as the one "capturing the other Planet's in their 8th House" often has a very intense magnetic draw for the other person.

I'll do a quick write of up these connections.

Strong Aries is attracted to strong Virgo in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Taurus is attracted to strong Libra in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Gemini is attracted to strong Scorpio in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Cancer is attracted to strong Sagittarius in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Leo is attracted to strong Capricorn in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Virgo is attracted to strong Aquarius in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Libra is attracted to strong Pisces in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Scorpio is attracted to strong Aries in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Sagittarius is attracted to strong Taurus in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Capricorn is attracted to strong Gemini in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Aquarius is attracted to strong Cancer in that 8th House kind of way.

Strong Pisces is attracted to strong Leo in that 8th House kind of way.

It is these patterns more than most that can correspond and correlate with those oh so painful, unrequited "love"/attachment patterns. Because the Sign on the other side is usually a lot more "meh", and at best they try to be of helpful service to the other. Well to some extent, 5th House connections can relate some too to this unrequited, but these tend to be a bit more mutual than the 6th-8th Sign combos.

Lighter charts, energies, and charts though, sometimes don't like the feel of these kind of 8th House type patterns. It's too intense, heavy, binding, and/or unconsciously disturbing for them. People with strong Scorpio, Pluto, and/or 8th House tend to LOVE these kinds of connections.

If you're someone with a combo of very strong Aries (8th type attraction), Taurus (opposite attraction), and Cancer (5th House type attraction) (especially if these relate to Rising, Sun, Moon, Venus and Mars), and you're thinking of getting involved with someone with very strong Scorpio--if you don't like super intense and deep focus on you, or intensity in general, run for the hills!

The combo that would be most attracted to me, is far too mutuable and/or airy/detached to have that kind of intensity and longevity. (sad face) Any mix of a person with very strong Sagittarius, Pisces, and Aquarius. (These connections are often most noticeable in relation to one's Rising Sign).

And to a lesser extent Leo (1st to Rising, 8th to Sun, and 7th to Venus type connections), Taurus (5th to Sun and 8th to Moon), and Cancer (7th to Sun). (These relate more to my Sun, Rising, and/or Moon combo).

You might be spilling Crappicorn's secrets, but I'm spilling EVERYONE's secrets lol. [/B]

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posted October 23, 2019 02:04 PM            

There is sometimes a peculiar and strong magnetism when 4th House is involved, but it's not necessarily sexual or romantic, but more of a deep kinship.

To give a good example of this 8th House pattern in real life. My partner was friend's with a woman that is bi. The friend has very strong Virgo and Scorpio, Aqua Moon (don't know her Rising), and Cap Mars. Absolutely gorgeous and charming as all heck--I had a major crush on her, but it was mostly lower center based. (We have double Sun Mars conjunctions, and all that Virgo represented a 5th House attraction for my strong Capricorn).

My partner has very strong Aqua (including Sun and Venus, and Rising cusping same), Cap Rising, and Aries Moon. But, she's not sexually attracted to women.

Boy did her friend try and try to seduce her. It was almost comical the lengths she went to. I'm not normally into the whole 3some thing, but in this situation I was like, "dammit Rebecca, can't you take one for the team!" as I knew her friend would have JUMPED for that opportunity. (Mostly was joking, because I recognized it was mostly a lower center connection and that's not the kind of energetic merging/interconnection I'm into).

posted October 23, 2019 02:54 PM            

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Depends on what they have going on in their chart as well. If a person with very strong Capricorn, also has strong Aqua, Leo, Sagittarius, and/or Pisces, there will be mutual attraction back if the symbols involve Rising, Sun, Moon, Venus, and Mars especially (or rulers of the 1st, 7th, 5th, and 8th).

There is sometimes a peculiar and strong magnetism when 4th House is involved, but it's not necessarily sexual or romantic, but more of a deep kinship.

To give a good example of this 8th House pattern in real life. My partner was friend's with a woman that is bi. The friend has very strong Virgo and Scorpio, Aqua Moon (don't know her Rising), and Cap Mars. Absolutely gorgeous and charming as all heck--I had a major crush on her, but it was mostly lower center based. (We have double Sun Mars conjunctions, and all that Virgo represented a 5th House attraction for my strong Capricorn).

My partner has very strong Aqua (including Sun and Venus, and Rising cusping same), Cap Rising, and Aries Moon. But, she's not sexually attracted to women.

Boy did her friend try and try to seduce her. It was almost comical the lengths she went to. I'm not normally into the whole 3some thing, but in this situation I was like, "dammit Rebecca, can't you take one for the team!" as I knew her friend would have JUMPED for that opportunity. (Mostly was joking, because I recognized it was mostly a lower center connection and that's not the kind of energetic merging/interconnection I'm into).

Well anyways, I'm already derailing this thread enough as it is, so I will stop here.

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Wow you seem so aware and in touch psychologically/ spiritually. It is great you can pinpoint the type of attraction and connect it to astrology (with a lot of knowledge). I am a much more confused person - when it comes to these things and in general 🤣. The Capricorn I am talking about has mars in Aqua opposite my sun/moon conjunction and Aqua Venus/Merc/Juno conjunct my descendant/north node conjunction. I believe there was some attraction but not enough for a relationship. Couldn’t tell because he was distant and a bit detached at times. Actually stopped talking to me then showed back up out of no where a few months later. I recently texted and saw him and he was very responsive. Ohhh Capricorn’s! ❤️

posted October 23, 2019 03:45 PM            

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getting in touch with and listening to your own internal guidance system.

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Along with learning from various sources, yes I believe this above is key to everything.

posted October 23, 2019 10:07 PM            

My sister likes to be generous. She can be a very good person, but it doesn't negate other things that are also a part of her.

posted October 23, 2019 10:35 PM            

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Along with learning from various sources, yes I believe this above is key to everything.

And so cool you can access your past lives. Hope to do the same one day!

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In the earlier days, did read a lot of different books and tried to correlate where they agreed most. So definitely is a potential factor.

For self, it started with dreams (and this is not uncommon, so I've observed). Before you fall asleep while going to bed, a few nights a week, say to your guidance/Expanded-Spirit self level, something like, "If it's helpful for me, can I have a clear dream outlining another life that is particularly influencing, or connected to me in the present?"

Meditating a bit before you fall asleep definitely helps. Some of my most intense and vivid guidance dreams occurred when I was actually seeking information during meditation at night, but ended up falling asleep before I received anything. But then I had a powerful dream speaking to the question/issue.

Eventually something is likely to come through. The more attention you pay to your dreams, the better you will tend to remember them. So much of life is a matter of focus, attention, and desire.

Though, sometimes too much desire and focus, can hinder or slow things down some. The best state for receiving is a sort of a relaxed attentiveness which sounds a bit contradictory or paradoxical and yet, this is what I've found works best. (It's a balanced/integrated state between the Yin and Yang, and the right and left hemispheres of the brain. Speaking of which, some Hemi-Sync audio stuff is quite good at helping with all of this. I really like "Higher" and "Opening the Heart").

posted October 23, 2019 10:36 PM            

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GalacticCoreExplosion I will get back to you later tonight but so everyone knows I don't mind if people have side conversations that get off track, it happens and this forum is about connecting and learning so even those conversations have a purpose so if it flows another direction for a while that is okay

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