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Stawr
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posted February 05, 2020 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This transit squares my Sun sign, and conjuncts my first Saturn return.

My boss tries my life more and more everyday. I realize that I am not the problem she is. She needs to feel important, and doesn't feel important enough even though she is my boss.
It is obvious that she doesn't like my art projects because they are my "ideas" The other teachers will do my idea. She has no constructive criticism for how to do art projects more like them. She just wants me to copy them, fine. Whatever it takes to get this dumb ***** to eff off.
It like I just know that if I did another teachers art project and said it was my idea she would decide she doesn't like it. Tells me my art projects need to progress.

Like I am really starting to think she just wants to bring me down because she has her own secret self esteem issues.

Like she made up her mind that she needs to constantly be telling me what to do. This morning she talked to me in a tone like I need to be doing this in my classroom, as if I haven't been doing it at all. I let her know that I do that with my kids every Friday. But you see, she already made up her mind that she needs to tell me "I need to be doing that." So she told me they need to do this everyday in my classroom. I am quite certain that the other teachers are not being told to do this. I was also told to "track all of my students cutting with scissors everyday." None of the other teachers are treated this way.

For whatever reason this director cannot stand me being a leader and not "needing her" I refuse to suck up to this dumb ***** . I'm thinking about building a case towards her to her supervisors who have no idea what goes on.

If it wasn't for the other teachers I do not think I could get through the rest of the year.

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posted February 11, 2020 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 12, 2020 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's been a sh*t show. It's going down in my 12th house/conjunct my Cap ASC currently.

Dealing with mental health issues, old and new addictions, court/legal issues, family dramas, friends, and it seems like everyone around me is dealing with an immense loss, to name a few. I have no filter or patience, anymore. I'm cutting straight through the BS with every interaction I have. And for the first time in my life, I feel like I don't have time for work because of all of the crap I'm dealing with.

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posted February 13, 2020 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm mostly okay, because nothing has changed. That's also part of the problem, though: nothing has changed. I need to do something, because I feel like a sitting duck. I need to at least make small changes, before something takes a battering ram to my comfort zone. I've had enough of that.

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posted February 14, 2020 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by firemoon:
My Sun is 21 degrees Cap, my Saturn Return will be happening soon (26 Cap). I haven't posted in this forum for years but came back because I needed a place to write about this transit with people who understand astrology.. Yet I still can't seem to find the words.

It's been an extremely transformative last couple of years, I've faced my shadow, found my power, all the Pluto cliches. Saturn has made things more difficult but for the most part the build up of pressure has passed. Still not entirely sure what to expect next though..


Hi Firemoon,

I'm sorry to hear you've had such a heavy time, it's certainly not easy having Saturn and Pluto featuring in your Saturn Return at the same time! I'm interested in what's going on for you though and with my natal Venus at 27 Capricorn also, I guess we are going to have a link with timings, if not experiences :-)

Is it your first Saturn return? That's a difficult one but if it helps I posted an article about that recently:
http://askastrology.com/the-importance-of-your-saturn-sign/

I hope this responates somewhat~~~~ ♥


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Shalom and blessings~~~

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posted February 21, 2020 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I have that feeling of deep sadness and dread again. Had it since this afternoon. No point in talking much about it, because you just have to wait for it to pass. Damn it.

Mars is square Chiron, too.

One positive. I reconnected with another family friend today. She was my mum’s friend, she’s stayed with us before, and helped us out when we needed it at certain times (she’s also somewhat local). She talked to dad today, asked for my number, and we’ve texted a few times.

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posted February 24, 2020 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for firemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by waxlobster:
Hi Firemoon,

I'm sorry to hear you've had such a heavy time, it's certainly not easy having Saturn and Pluto featuring in your Saturn Return at the same time! I'm interested in what's going on for you though and with my natal Venus at 27 Capricorn also, I guess we are going to have a link with timings, if not experiences :-)

Is it your first Saturn return? That's a difficult one but if it helps I posted an article about that recently:
http://askastrology.com/the-importance-of-your-saturn-sign/

I hope this responates somewhat~~~~ ♥


Thanks waxlobster! It is my first Saturn return and I’ve sort of been experiencing this transit “with” a Cancer Sun guy (22 degrees). I feel like a lot is still up in the air right now so I don’t want to make any predictions but should know more soon enough.

Of course there’s also a lot of other concerns surrounding my career which I feel is not totally on solid ground yet. Anyway, hope this transit goes well for you, I’d be interested to hear your experiences too..


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posted February 24, 2020 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My bf is a year and four months younger than me. He is 28 currently and I am starting to see similarities when I experienced this early stage of Saturn conjunction.

New job, higher pay!
After 6 months he got promoted to leader. People were happy for him. Well one of these “nice people” are having issues with him telling them what to do, and throwing fits. This person text him this lengthy text everything he is doing wrong.

We both experienced being a super visor around the same age, and getting out of our comfort zone in this new territory when we are use to being at “the bottom”

I had somewhat similar issues with my assistant last year. She was on her own time. I frequently used reverse psychology so she would complete her tasks in a timely manner. She got in my face, tried to micro manage mmmme. Like I really felt like I just had to be b1+(h, and call her out sometimes.

When he told me someone was crossing the line with him that he supervises.I realize that Saturn will be in Aquarius in March. I think he has Saturn in Aquarius 1 degree from what I remember.

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posted February 25, 2020 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Wow FireMoon, how interesting to be experiencing Pluto conjunct Sun, alongside somebody experiencing the opposition. No doubt you were brought together for a reason, often timings of relationships can be predicted succinctly via joint transits, but that¡¦s not to say the longevity, if you have otherwise weak chart contacts, it could be that you are together as mirrors and support systems to one another.
On the otherhand this ¡¥trial through fire¡¦ beginning to a relationship can give you a very strong and enduring connection, as you say, you will learn more soon. Pluto has it¡¦s final party at 22 degrees from August to November ¡V turning direct at this degree, so there is a lot to experience on this one yet.
I like to think that it won¡¦t reach my Asc (at 22¡¦10 but it¡¦s probably too close to be ignored!!) I¡¦d be interested to hear how it¡¦s all affection your relationship but I¡¦m quite private about my own personal life, so I understand if you don¡¦t want to share that information on here.
Good luck you with your first Saturn return, I hope it¡¦s going wonderfully for you. ƒº

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Shalom and blessings~~~

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posted February 25, 2020 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Stawr,

That sounds like a difficult situation with your boyfriend having his authority questioned, of course that will be part of the Saturn lesson and important to his journey into leadership, as you can testify yourself.
You do however have different Saturn signs and you’re correct Saturn will affect him exactly soon, in April with the lesson being reinforced until the beginning of next year. Perhaps my article will benefit him:
http://askastrology.com/the-importance-of-your-saturn-sign/

I don’t know what the legal system is like where you are based, but the advice I would give in the UK for such a situation, would be have an informal meeting with the employee in question. To ask during this session whether there is anything your boyfriend can assist said employee with in terms of support, training, role development and to raise the issues that have come up between them also. Maybe a mediator would be helpful and then notes of agreement made and signed by both parties. The point of this is to have a written record of the boundaries, and also an agreement by the employee that they are aware of these. Any breach of which then goes to a formal meeting with a warning as an outcome.

The notes will still go on file, it covers your boyfriend and allows him to assert his authority in a reasonable and conscientious manner.

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Shalom and blessings~~~

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posted March 02, 2020 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much waxlobster. Another crazy thing is that he is having a family emergency with his Grandpa now. Last year I had a family emergency with my grandma, and she passed away last March.

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posted March 03, 2020 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Stawr,

I'm sorry to hear that, Saturn can bring mortality into the mix so easily, and obviously Pluto challenges us to learn to let go and allow transformation.

It isn't easy to have Saturn AND Pluto conducting your Saturn Return and Jupiter may or may not be supportive, but hopefully he'll be okay.

I'm sorry for your loss too. I've had a lot of loss myself in recent years and it doesn't get easier. The waves of grief still rise to the surface years later sometimes.

Sending reiki vibes~~~

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Shalom and blessings~~~

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posted March 03, 2020 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by waxlobster:
Hi Stawr,

I'm sorry to hear that, Saturn can bring mortality into the mix so easily, and obviously Pluto challenges us to learn to let go and allow transformation.

It isn't easy to have Saturn AND Pluto conducting your Saturn Return and Jupiter may or may not be supportive, but hopefully he'll be okay.

I'm sorry for your loss too. I've had a lot of loss myself in recent years and it doesn't get easier. The waves of grief still rise to the surface years later sometimes.

Sending reiki vibes~~~


I'm picking up my boyfriend from the airport sometime after midnight then going to work at 8am.
My boyfriend will finally be home but not under the most ideal circumstances.
Luckily his next job is in our state so he will only be 2 hours away from me and his family.

It is so true about grief and I think you are right about that.
Thank you so much.

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posted March 11, 2020 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 11, 2020 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manymoones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi Manymoones,
Wow what a Saturn Return!! You certainly didn't choose to do this by halves!! :-) I'm so glad you're coming into your own and have found it liberating. Truth is the Saturn return is often felt for the whole year (or even 2!) prior and with Saturn not coming back as far as 22-23 again, you're on the home run, just as you feel. This will be the year in which you carve out your new paths ~knowingly~


Thanks, waxlobster!!

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posted March 12, 2020 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My pleasure ManyMoones :-)

Hi Stawr, wishing you both a much happier time with Mercury Direct and closer proximity :-)

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posted March 12, 2020 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charmander1761     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dunmuzi,
It's strange how similar my situation was to yours.
My relationship had been falling apart for a while, but on January 1st I was done. I wasn't doing drugs, he was. He had been lying to me about a drug abuse problem. I mean, I was pretty delusional about the relationship so I'm pretty sure that neptune connections being highlighted in capricorn play a role in this.
Our neptunian synastry:
Mine neptune:
Neptune square his moon
Neptune trine his mars
His neptune:
Neptune trine my moon
Neptune square my sun, chiron, venus stellium
Neptune sextile my pluto
I'll talk more about this relationship, but my phone is dying and to be honest, I'm still processing it.

I am interested if she's moved out yet. I know i havent x.x good luck and treat yourself with the respect you deserve.

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posted March 13, 2020 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charmander1761     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My phone is charged so I'll talk a bit more on this relationship.

connections we do have:
Saturn square saturn
My saturn trine his mars
His mars conjunct my pluto
His mars sextile my moon
My pluto opposite his mars
His mars trine my sun, chiron, venus stellium
His jupiter oppose my venus

Hmmm... Now what to say about this...

I feel like hes always been rather noncommital about my aspirations. I'll give him the emotional boost so that he feels like his work is worth something and he wants to take care of my desires (his jupiter oppose my venus) but I feel like if I'm not feeling fulfilled in life then there's no gift he could give me to fill that void. And it's hard to feel fulfilled with this man because i feel so creatively stifled.

Sometimes, when i talk about my aspirations and dreams he'll look at me and say "then go do them, if you even will". Which is hard because I tend to have a lot of anxiety about failure so i tend not to fulfill a lot of my dreams.
It doesnt help that he asks me to manage his career for him all the time, but I don't want to so I declined. I'm your lover, I want to support you and I want your support. I don't want to manage your life like a mother.

A mother to a child, that's exactly how I feel. I constantly pick up after him. If I have to ask him to throw the empty milk jug into the garbage can instead of put it back into the fridge one more time, I'm going to scream. He's done the dishes, maybe 8 times in the 5 years that weve been dating. Ive seen him with a broom but only in the garage. I've seen him mop only when he flooded the bathroom by flushing a clogged toilet too many times. I have to clean up after him or my surrounding area becomes a whirlpool of clutter and wrappers that haven't found the garbage.

Because of the heavy pluto and mars connections, there is a lot of jealousy in the relationship. I've defriended exes on facebook because I didn't want him to be mad at me, and I've had a few of episodes of being mad at him for going to other women's house to repair stuff for them without him telling me. This person has gone through my phone so many times, I can't leave it within their reach. I'm comfortable sleeping when it's dead and hidden away. I've let him go to concerts and been happy to let him have a fun night out with his brothers, but then the next fight we have he will bring up the fact that there were so many girls talking to him and he could have been with any of them. I am not allowed to go to the bar, or to concerts without him because there are other boys there.

His abusive behavior escalated when he started doing cocaine and hiding it. Every phone call he would bring up the fact that im probably cheating on him, he would demand that i tell him the truth. I would tell him the truth, I've never seen any other person naked in the 5 years that weve been dating. He would bring it up at least once a day, if not more. He was paranoid and I couldn't argue with him because he felt he was right.

He's been the main breadwinner of our relationship and that played in our power dynamic. That's how he wanted it. But when he was spending most of his money on drugs i couldn't do laundry. I didn't have $20 to put towards it. I was being harassed, and when i noticed that he would have nose bleeds at night; i knew something was up.
I asked him and he told me no. I asked him again and he said he didnt want to talk about it because it would upset me. I asked him again and he said he was.

I tried to help him. I got in touch with a previous drug counselor that he had. She didn't help me at all. Instead, he deleted her because he felt like we were conspiring against him.

When Juno transited my venus this year, sometime in mid december, he came home saying "my grandma gave me an engagement ring for you, if you want it." Which is NOT how i want to be proposed to.

On January 1st, i was done with it all. I wanted no part of him or whatever he's doing. I knew i wanted to be out of this relationship. Yet, here I am waiting for him to fix his truck so that I can drive my suv across country to move in with my dad again. Im being way too hospitable to him, making sure that he isn't stranded from work even though he's left me stranded at home plenty of times. His mars is in my 12th house of taurus.

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