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Dumuzi
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posted August 13, 2020 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Moonbeth

it's cool, she hasn't shown up to murder me yet so it's all good

at least so far maybe that's next 🤣 she already did the leaving her stuff with me threatening me with cops **** , offering me drugs, sending pictures of her in lingerie, calling me to tell me she was going to kill herself and missed me, having packages mailed to me with her name on them, using covid as an excuse to try to get in touch with me and then my mother, and going through ex fwbs more recently etc

still alive though and if i had covid totally asymptomatic so no big deal

i'm so done with this quarantine **** though, it's making it so hard to get weed, smoked my way through an oz in a little under 2 weeks not too long ago and had some edibles that was with months in between

had shrooms then though but that was through a friend told her it'd been a while and she sent me a bunch of chocolates that were about 2g each and the first time i ate 7 of those and ******* tripped so hard i could only see shroom visuals with my eyes closed and open 🤣

is that why most people get into astrology? i got into it because this witch i ended up hooking up with was into it and a bunch of crazy occult **** (long story have i told you? i dont think i was sober pretty much at all around the last time i emailed you, pretty sure i was drinking i havent done that since december) when i hit a dead end i thought i'd learn enough to try to find a new witch to possibly hook up with/learn some **** from, needed to be able to add to the conversation

i don't have that love for pluto that you do, no hate either just a general indifference can be good can be bad either way it's a ride so it has that going for it at least

i just think that in synastry in particular it can only be taken into account so much because it moves so slow you'd have aspects with so many people you know? doesn't seem valid to me

being fair can't always judge whether or not someone will hit that rebirth point if you're only viewing them at a particular time in their life so saying plutonian for all that **** is fitting even without the rebirth which may or may not occur in a timely enough fashion for you to view it

i used to be attracted to plutonian energy now i'm like "nah let's scale the intensity down a bit" had too many people with too much of it in my life and had all of it go to ****

a close friend actually recently said to me the way other people can view me can be a disservice for me because they never assume i've got all this pain and **** going on under the surface, and i suppose in a way that's true

people close to me know though, but that's different otherwise it's more the expectation that i'll understand or won't care or whatever

i withdraw from time to time but it's always in a if someone really needs it i'll be there for them sort of way and always has to come with warning otherwise people think i'm dead

understandable why they think it but it makes things a little difficult

i'm not generally seen as cold though, especially not irl, i can be though people who have called me cold have usually seen me mad

when i'm very angry i'm cold as **** , but generally speaking people expect me to care about them and the apathy is viewed as more of a me centric thing

i'm ok with whatever, i'm unaffected by most things, i'm really laid back so it's all good etc but they simultaneously have the expectation that i care about their problems which is true i often do

people tend to come to me when they want someone to cheer them up or listen or whatever and then when im not good i tend to just remove myself entirely

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posted August 13, 2020 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

people tend to come to me when they want someone to cheer them up or listen or whatever


Yeah, that's what I've been trying to avoid. I've been doing more around the house, cooking more, I need to sort the garden out, and have been trying not to lose it over things I can't control.

People tend to think that I'm either utterly helpless, or that I can handle everything - even things that they couldn't. I don't know if that's my Aries + Scorpio ascendant, versus my Moon conjunct Venus, Mars in Pisces, and episodes of depression and shyness.

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@Dumuzi

Absolutely a not yet for the killing you lol

I'm sort of admiring the confidence it requires to do all these things, I stay outside if I knock and some noise covers the "please come in" lol

Lockdown's over here, I'm done with people though lol

Yep, people mentioned the effects on drug users, thieves too, it's a bad economy for everyone ROFL !!!

I was addicted to swimming, made it 3 months and a half without, have now blocked how painful it was. I'm trauma girl

Pretty sure most people get into astrology via synastry, at leats on this site, I was born into it, drew the sign symbols in the family's astrologer charts by 5, knew my venus and moon before I could read, the idea of it, the presence, is as basic to me as religion to most.
Yup, you did tell me about the witch and the drinking, you were probably drunk

Hey, don't underestimate nods and throw ups, they're valid additions to any conversation okay?

I have Uranus hate if you want? Neptune fear? Can i interest you in any of my outer planet problems? 😊


Thought the same, but then, it still has to happen so... like sure many Scorpio Plutos, but then don't all touch my mars and thus sextile my moon...

I was just trying to wash the aggro ***** from the adjective, it's a classy word, it deserves more than Misery Kathy Bates vibes

I'm super attracted to one bloke, he's got everything, Pluto, Uranus, Neptune, I don't know which triggers me but it is so triggered it's painful...

I think when intense doesn't work out it's always somehow miserable because of the promise intense carries out. But it's not intense's fault, it's just the way it is, with "not so intense" you may recover more easily or feel it didn't go to **** , but if it does work out, it has to be equally mellow.
I love mellow, I need mellow, but I also need passion. ...and reason, I want everything, I have Leo ffs, I want it ALL lol

The way other people can view us is always a disservice my lovely.

I used to be so available, regardless of my own states, now I'm severely withdrawing and because people are SO confident I'm fine and strong, they don't reach out, so, slowly but surely I heal from caring about them. They'll come around one day happy to see me and eager to pick up where we left of, and I'll barely remember their faces... Cappy moon does alone its way.


Yes, god the line between apathy and arsehole is thin lol It's a weird thing that the aloofness of not caring (seemingly) attracts and entices, but it also frustrates, like, it makes people not feel special, but also coveting the extra specialness of cracking you, and also,it can be a turn off if you're only in it for the conquest or not into conquest at all...
I was a huge if you don't like me at my worse you don't deserve me at my best before it was a meme frenzy, now I'm more of a "we don't deserve each other." I don't even bother, tis both sad and liberating...

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posted August 14, 2020 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Yeah, that's what I've been trying to avoid. I've been doing more around the house, cooking more, I need to sort the garden out, and have been trying not to lose it over things I can't control.

People tend to think that I'm either utterly helpless, or that I can handle everything - even things that they couldn't. I don't know if that's my Aries + Scorpio ascendant, versus my Moon conjunct Venus, Mars in Pisces, and episodes of depression and shyness.




my garden has beer cans from last summer in it, and everything is overgrown

it could be your demeanor in person, here you seem more vulnerable, not weak youve gotten through plenty just not like you never need another person

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posted August 14, 2020 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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my garden has beer cans from last summer in it, and everything is overgrown

it could be your demeanor in person, here you seem more vulnerable, not weak youve gotten through plenty just not like you never need another person


Thanks.

I was thinking of a few people, who acted like I was helpless in the past - like I shouldn't be expected to do this or that. One person was shocked when I swore in front of them - I was over thirty, and I got an, "Angela!" for that. Like I was a kid.

Then there was everything that happened over the past eight/nine years, at home. I'm reconnecting with people (family), but it's hard to trust them again. My own dad said that I say I can'd handle (certain) things, but I do - he said that when I was in the hospital, because I couldn't handle things anymore.

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posted August 14, 2020 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Moonbeth

oh yeah definitely just a not yet, it would be more shocking if she doesn't show up to try something crazy than if she does

a good friend of mine got me some acid at least, so i've got that but that's not an every day sort of thing like weed is so that part sucks

can't wait for quarantine to be over i used to be like keep it on lockdown hard and see what happens but now i'm just like **** it let god sort everyone out 🤣

i don't swim, hate being submerged in water i like boats i like being near water but not in it

people in my family were into it growing up, my mother was into looking at my birth chart specifically because of weird **** during her pregnancy + cusp birthday she wanted to know what sign i was for real

i probably was drunk, almost definitely yeah, i don't remember a whole lot from that but it sounds like me 🤣 i'm so used to doing that just saying "well that definitely sounds like me" when i've been too wasted to remember something

she was my intro into all this **** , the occult in general on some level though it's more complicated than that more of a catalyst of sorts

dionysus "calling dream" as well, which i answered because i was drunk and high and wanted to see what would happen

tell me all about them

i like uranus in particular as far as they go, need those shake ups or things get boring tight? i see uranus transits and i get excited like something will happen finally

neptune i'm just like "does this mean i'll have drugs?" and then that's about it

a lot of them won't but plenty will so it's hard to care about giving that weight for me

though when my pluto was conjunct this one guy's mars that was a pretty terrible experience so who knows? i imagine it might be something like how the individual feels an outerplanet is how it's expressed to them in synastry or transit or whatever

like uranus is very positively aspected in my chart and i'm all about that kind of **** i look forward to those transits and whatnot even the hard ones because i know it means something might just ******* sideline me into something new and i love that ****

there's different kinds of intensity and i think it's easy for negative **** to have that sort of addictive intensity to it like a ******* rollercoaster almost, but you know being strapped into one for 15 ******* years get off and it's like "yeah done with that"

that's where i'm at anyway, but see i say that and my actual love life is this whole dramatic trainwreck right now

but that's sort of just my luck


i wouldn't say always but definitely sometimes

that bit i can't relate to, people tell me all the time i make them feel special and loved and all that good **** people want to feel, i'm good at that the aparty works in their favor on some level because someone can tell me virtually anything and i dont give a **** i'm not going to judge

makes people comfortable but maybe that's the result of the libra influence and cap not being my moon


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posted August 14, 2020 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i've had plenty of good opportunities + alcohol (and other drugs) and never cheated even with the aspect

**** one time i was tripping balls on shrooms and my ex was passed out and my friend with benefits was drunk and getting touchy trying to get somewhere with it and i turned him down just because her and i hadn't discussed sex in that context yet

perfectly capable of self control with that

i flirt and **** don't get me wrong that's just my personality, i dont do it secretly though and it doesn't mean anything but actual cross lines cheating? never have

questionable gray area stuff? sure but you know limits

granted i'm not necessarily big on monogamy but for the right person i'd be able to i'm pretty sure and i'd even avoid the gray area type **** and the flirting (as far as i can help it, it's very accidental sometimes someone flirts with me and i just respond in turn with whatever they put out rather than any actual feeling on my part)


It’s kinda impressive when you drugged up, but still manage self-control.
I don’t think flirting means cheating or feelings. However, I’d avoid flirting men mostly because I’m not good at it, and I’d be jealous because someone does it better 😊

Edit: I wonder if Mars is more important here because it’s responsible for actions. So your Venus could be pretty bad, but some good aspects to mars can beat it.
Or Mercury aspects can beat it all.

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posted August 14, 2020 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It’s kinda impressive when you drugged up, but still manage self-control.
I don’t think flirting means cheating or feelings. However, I’d avoid flirting men mostly because I’m not good at it, and I’d be jealous because someone does it better 😊

Edit: I wonder if Mars is more important here because it’s responsible for actions. So your Venus could be pretty bad, but some good aspects to mars can beat it.
Or Mercury aspects can beat it all.


funny thing about that is people who are on drugs always tell me i handle them well, i'm very good at controlling my **** typically and hiding it

i've worked on acid and all kinds of other **** and in all the years i've used drugs i've only ever blacked out and been really ******* weird once but that just me and my ex at home so it was all good

i think part of it is just when you're using all the time you get used to it, but i also am told i have exceptional control by others

i flirt by accident so it's never this thought out thing i'll have people tell me **** and i'm completely ******* oblivious it's reflexive

my venus is in libra on my ascendant and it's sextile uranus and mercury which are both trine my aries moon, so it's part of a kite, but then it's also part of a t-square with the moon and my cap mars

my mars is very loosely conjunct neptune and my ic so it's not the best but it works out

it could be the cap mars though that makes things that way, i could see that

it is connected to the opposition afterall

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posted August 14, 2020 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not a terrible aspect. Maybe, not that comfortable socially

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posted August 15, 2020 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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funny thing about that is people who are on drugs always tell me i handle them well, i'm very good at controlling my **** typically and hiding it

i've worked on acid and all kinds of other **** and in all the years i've used drugs i've only ever blacked out and been really ******* weird once but that just me and my ex at home so it was all good

i think part of it is just when you're using all the time you get used to it, but i also am told i have exceptional control by others

i flirt by accident so it's never this thought out thing i'll have people tell me **** and i'm completely ******* oblivious it's reflexive

my venus is in libra on my ascendant and it's sextile uranus and mercury which are both trine my aries moon, so it's part of a kite, but then it's also part of a t-square with the moon and my cap mars

my mars is very loosely conjunct neptune and my ic so it's not the best but it works out

it could be the cap mars though that makes things that way, i could see that

it is connected to the opposition afterall



I know several Cap Mars (why do I attract them, it squares Libra ..) It seems like they always control at least some part. He could drink and it’s barely noticeable. One girl messed around a lot, but it was before her Saturn return. And I think it was a conscious choice she’d justified for herself.

My flirting is completely unconscious. It happens very seldom, and I’m like «was it me?”

Oh, you should like me. Aries, Capricorn like me (before we start to get on each other nerves) if our Pluto in the right places, but I’ve never met Libra Venus before. It might go in my 12th. Unfortunately, Ive never could go far with fellow Libra because 12th house stuff could make me like on acid without any drugs.

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I know several Cap Mars (why do I attract them, it squares Libra)

I've always found squares lack a lot less in compatibility than often claimed, they're just a wee bit too similar in how they express things compared to how different they handle them, for it all to be smooth but the ties are potentially strong. For example, sagittarius is one of the few signs that can fully understand virgo's integrity; in the case of cappy and libra, social is a key word, these 2 signs know how to navigate the world like no other, put through mars' lens it doesn't feel so odd that both would attract one another as they both strive for long lasting establishments. There are probably many other explanations for you specifically but in itself square signs are in a powerful relationship, it means something and can be very good 😊

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I just thought it'd be so funny if she actually never tries anything, relying on the idea that your expectation she will will keep you on your toes and ruin your peace at the worst times, that would be some Scorpio 😝

I'd take it as an opportunity to jazz things up and just change my habits 😊


Everywhere that's reopened is ******** and threats of closing again, I'd have taken another month to really be free and I've already had 4, so one extra, as a shielded category.

I have no such choice, water is the only way to manage some of the pain and regulate my illness, it's a very practical addiction, it's reliance actually.

Lol I'd be so curious too with a cusp baby

Again, no such luck, I remember everything, not necessarily when I want, damn illness, but the imprint is stored for sure and I get access. I envy using "sounds like me" so authentically...


I remember you telling the full story, it was very "atune" of you, somehow odd that someone so receptive as you had to have such an ushering, felt to me it unlocked things that were well established in you long before.


Uranus is in my 4th and squares my sun/ASC conjunction, basically my scapegoat for my miserable childhood, as if plain existing angered others and everything I am comes off as a challenge when I mean no such harshness. I don't fear boredom, I'm rarely bored, almost never. Last transits I remember just frustrated me as I didn't have the proper outlet for its energy. Was gratuitously restless lol

Neptune? Astrologers have ruined Neptune for me, as if even the good will turn sour with it, I fear those transits like the plague, any good thing will turn out nasty deception blah, blah...

Saturn, I don't mind, I just don't live a life that allows me to have something to show for myself when he comes up so I always end up disappointing him...

I had pluto mars with a bloke, nothing terrible...

I think natal rules indeed, though pluto and uranus both square and sextile my personal planets in natal so I don't know why I find one bad-difficult when it gives me work while I play earnest student with the other...

I think those 15 years beginning when you were 15 also has had a major impact on the experience and how you feel now.
I like pluto now, 15 years ago, I wasn't ready for it in ways that made liking or not liking it not even on the table, it was just overwhelming, now it's more from my inner self on the way out than some tidal wave that comes from the outside and ravages my insides, it's a completely different experience of the energy, it's actually not always intense, but serenely deep rather, most of the time.


No luck, those are your choices, only a year since you broke up from a 15 years relationship you had from 15 on that still looms over you, you expect something else than a train wreck? Get your virgo on brother 😉😘 lol


I didn't mean in your relationships but rather in conversations, like for example here, I'm pretty sure I've seen people be doubly angered by you because you disagreed and not caring about how that made them feel angered them in itself as it made them really feel like shite lol like a basic pride upset machine.

Yup, double edged sword, tolerance/ acceptance and indifference have lots in common, when the thin line is blurry it can feel ugly.

I think air moons get away more easily with being private than us earth moons because it's less apparent. Earth moons, it's like we owe people to nurture them and if we don't we're the bad guy. I feel air moons are expected to be distant and detached so a plain connection appears as surprisingly social and pleases people instantly.

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posted August 15, 2020 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Librapurr:

i only know 3 cap mars people one is a chick i went to middle school with her birthday is a few days after mine, another is a friend ive had for a few years, and my niece is the other

i've been able to hide a lot of my drug use in spite of its severity, no one in my family knew i was on heroin until after (my ex spite told my family about it) and none of them have known how bad my drinking and **** was or about all the pills or coke and psychs etc

i've been on acid in front of them and **** nothing

when i worked in a restaurant people knew i was drunk and high at work but i was in the kitchen and we'd go out back and smoke and one of the waitresses would give me pills sometimes they'd hand alcohol and **** too

most people know about my frequent weed use but i dont bother to hide it, i smoked daily for years multiple times a day

16 degrees libra (venus, my ascendant is 18 degrees and south node is 22) moon is 17 degrees aries (like i said it's a tight opposition)

i wish 12th house **** made me feel like acid without drugs, but instead i just find virgo mercuries generally frustrating and that's about it

like you so far 😁

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posted August 15, 2020 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Moonbeth
i like earth moons generally, find them balancing and calming, i appreciate the detachment a lot

trainwreck situation is with a taurus moon (married but that's ending due to said situation technically havent done anything yet though, blurred lines there)

oh that, got you, i find most conversations frivolous and unless i care about someone i'm pretty indifferent

i like to make noise a lot but that's about all i'm doing half the time even when i argue

i can't find a reason to take most things personally or care very much particularly in settings where the person isn't connected to me in any deeper way

it's just sort of like "well who the **** are you to me?" and that's it, done

with my ex i was over it before it was over, sort of like how people who have elderly relatives with dementia grieve their "deaths" before they're dead

pluto can be alright don't get me wrong does some good **** , but in a person i only do the rollercoaster thing so much

uranus is mostly positively aspected in my chart (trine moon, trine mercury, sextile venus/ascendant, square jupiter) and pluto lands in my first house and is only positively aspected (sextile my sun and sextile neptune, my sun is trine neptune)

my pluto mars experience was **** but probably more in the charts there, had that with that witch too and that was another mess but different kind

her jealousy and insecurity was ******* mind numbing, got yelled at once for a woman standing way too close to me and i didnt even know the chick was there because i was high as ****

she legit gave me like a jump scare when i turned around and bumped into her

immediate "was she pretty? did you like her more than me?" all that ******* ******** nonsense

the only thing saturn does in my chart is square my sun, i appreciate saturn more now than i used to but it's still sort of ******** sometimes

uranus is ******* your chart, makes sense, my childhood was absolutely ****** but my whole life has been (worse than you even know, but very few people know all of it)

shake ups are appreciated when **** is a mess

i'm used to just push spiritual **** down i was raised catholic and catholic school made me an atheist for some time and i ignored a lot of things and just didnt take them seriously

i'm like that i can experience something play with it etc and give it no real weight

i have a fairly good memory, but ive got blank spots too and i don't pay much attention to what i say so i'll forget that but i can remember small details about other people and so on

im only hours away from being a leo sun in tropical

just finished parachuting kratom for some pain relief, waiting for it to kick in, i have empty capsules for it but that's irritatingly tedious and i ******* hate drinking it because it's hydrophobic and tastes ******* disgusting

i find shopping really boring so i order everything and don't exist like a human at all really so i havent been particularly affected by quarantine outside of getting weed

her last attempt to get in touch was a couple weeks ago and every time i forget about her she just pops up in some way that's just ******* weird and like "how the **** did you even remember this existed because i didn't?" kind of way with social media i dont even use or havent in forever and whatnot

not really on my toes i don't think about it much

it surprises me every time and it's been over a year since we broke up, and it's kind of weird to me because i told her i was done with even trying to be friends a little over a month post break up

and also i mean who the **** breaks up with someone and then stalks them? i feel like stalking makes more sense if the other person broke up with you and really not even there's so many ******* other people in the world why focus on the one who doesnt want you?


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@Dumuzi

I apparently have a thing for Taurus moons, not even the potential grand trine as my sun technically doesn’t trine my moon but I imagine the completion of earth with lots of emotion creates a safe place for me 😊

I try to take everything personally as much as I try never to act on it. It’s an exhausting gymnastic but, I imagine it’s the Leo, 5th and 1st house parts of me, I think only when you take something personally you truly take it and so it’s a way of having empathy or really understanding “make it about yourself”, “treat it like it’s about you, like it’s yours” sort of thing, and then, once you’ve taken it, walk a few steps back and reason. If I don’t do that, I feel like I’m avoiding, if I fail to step back after addressing the thing from a personal point of view, I feel like I touched an issue and I should work on it.

It’s quite rare for me to completely discard someone’s input about me, it does happen (happened here actually lol) but it’s rare cause it takes one massive **** who is wrong and passes me by entirely from the first second to last, and then I really can’t be arsed as they are no one to me, but I’ll spit fire if they insist, makes me think of that Liz Greene line about trying to enter a Virgo’s personal private sphere and getting the same result as if you tried physical assault. Someone’s who’s nothing to me pretending otherwise is one of the rare things that can get me physically violent because essentially it’s a rape and I want to destroy it as I was too young to fight my abusers, so new ones walk into a bar with a history.


I understand the over before it’s over thing, I end most things that way, like with my job, I was terrified of losing it and then I had actually kept it, stellar performance and character review… all clear. Then ******* boss did something unethical and all the abuse I underwent to keep the position came rushing back and I spoke up (there was something at stake too, not just integrity, my speaking up ended my career but it did a ton of good for someone who needed it). Boss couldn’t take not being followed by some temp adjacent junior so he actually revised his review and since he couldn’t say a thing about my work, he went for character. He was told what we wrote didn’t hold up, but he still had the power to not keep me, that was his prerogative, and since my illness prevents me from holding such a demanding position farther away from home and I can’t move that easily… I loved that job so much and then it became so small, like if I keep it at that price it’s not so good and I don’t love it so much. By the time I spoke up I knew what was going to happen, I knew I was dealing with a dickhead but I had made mind being aware so I had already accepted the consequence and grieved. Bonus was that ******* so tried to make me cry and I was glowing, receiving tons of love and support from everyone else in the workplace.
It’s funny because to me Uranus is the rollercoaster, Pluto is intense and deep but not particularly shaky, it goes down under in a steady way, so I actually agree with you 100% about the rollercoaster 😊
Again, I admire that, it takes confidence, I may feel such awful waves of insecurity, I’ll die before I express it, when bad Pluto works me, I destroy the relationship by ending it because it makes me miserable, more than crash it by constantly making scenes… I have a neat and polite process about self-sabotage
I’m different, when it’s a mess, I want a safety blanket, not shake ups, shake ups are usually what creates mess lol
No one ever knows how bad it is for anyone, also because how you experience it affects the degree of bad a LOT and that’s not something you can anticipate. Some kids lose both parents and turn out great, others lose one and are forever broken…
The family’s astrologer never mentioned my Uranus oddly enough, to her I was doomed to being alone because of mars in Scorpio (she has that too), to her Scorpio mars can’t live with anyone. I’ll say there is a lot to dig there, but I wouldn’t condemn it so harshly.
“I’m like that i can experience something play with it etc and give it no real weight “ that I relate to plenty 😊
Do you feel Leo sometimes?
Lockdown barely affected my life, except for pool, walking… being an introvert spoonie doesn’t make for a social butterfly
Didn’t think it’d work, but if I was to torment someone Scorpio style, I’d go for the ominous threat card and the keeping on the toes…
As I’ve said it makes sense with all you say about her that she breaks up and yet she stalks. Why you focus on the one person who doesn’t want you? Obviously because it’s who YOU want, it’s not about you wanting her or not, it’s about what she wants, that’s how obsessions operate.
Thing is, over a year and you were over only a month after yet you still abundantly talk about her. It’s taken me way longer to get over my big mess of a relationship but I never talk about him, it just is too difficult, I have nothing to say lol

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I've always found squares lack a lot less in compatibility than often claimed, they're just a wee bit too similar in how they express things compared to how different they handle them, for it all to be smooth but the ties are potentially strong. For example, sagittarius is one of the few signs that can fully understand virgo's integrity; in the case of cappy and libra, social is a key word, these 2 signs know how to navigate the world like no other, put through mars' lens it doesn't feel so odd that both would attract one another as they both strive for long lasting establishments. There are probably many other explanations for you specifically but in itself square signs are in a powerful relationship, it means something and can be very good 😊

It makes sense. Also, squares have the same group characteristics as Cardinal, Mutable and so on..
I thought they came for my Saturn.

The Push-pull dynamic, of course; that’s what I found:

“The square aspect creates a push-pull dynamic. It’s the relationship that helps you work through issues with a difficult parent, usually by reactivating old, painful wounds. There can be power struggles and clashing agendas. Don’t expect to kick back and put your feet up in this match. The dynamic tension will keep you active and keyed up. Of course, that could be exactly what you want. The opportunity of the “square” aspect is to teach you how to compromise with an equally strong-willed partner. “

Hm, I’d think opposition is supposed to be Push-pull.

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@ Dumuzi:
Maybe, all these people weren’t really observing 😊Good for you, you still go on after all the fun.
There was the time when I had Ibuprofen couple times per day. And I thought I’m killing my body with it. 🙂

Too overstimulated. If you’d slow down on Pluto, drugs, and rock n roll, and let yourself to be bored sometimes, you could find little Neptune things entertaining.


Oh, your SN is 1 to my AC (Maybe Tob not really correct, and AC is much deeper in 3rd decan ) + 12 house looks like much Karmic trouble. I might need to block you, I have too many hard transits a year lol kidding.


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i prefer taurus and cap moons to virgo, but yeah i find their groundedness refreshing because i'm not particularly that way myself

i find most things aren't worth taking personal because they just aren't, they're more about the other person than anything, too much to hold onto to take everything in and make it part of you

if someone doesn't know me well i have no issue discarding their input, particularly when it's based on a handful of conversations and they're acting like they have such deep insight

i don't judge other people in that manner because it's unfair and unbalanced and i view those judgements from others in the same light

someone who doesnt know me well acting as if they do means very little to me, i just view it as a them problem and move on with my life

i just don't care enough to worry about it

yeah exactly you accept it, move on from it in your head, and then when it happens it's been dealt with

uranus doesnt feel like a rollercoaster to me because it's a sudden change and then it's done whatever's in front of you is what is and that's it you deal with that

pluto on the other hand will drag you down to the depths and pull you back up, can cycle, over and over again all the way down all the way up until you step away if that's how things are meant to be

it's very rare for me to end something, but if i do it's final and i'm cold about it, when i'm angry it's cold anger i don't give a **** anymore

i'll let things slide for a long time and give a lot of chances because i find it unfair otherwise but eventually my patience runs out

i've had people tell me i'm like a robot then, and the coldness is overwhelming

sure but i mean it more in the sense that i tell very few people about a lot of things, my life has been ****** , and whatever i say is generally tip of the iceberg type ****

the scorpio mars people i have met were ultimately difficult for me in my view though i didn't necessarily attribute it to that

i can relate a good deal to leo, my mercury is there though sun/mercury in mutual reception

i can't really grasp wanting to torment something, drive them down into the ground and then walk over them sure but no looking back nothing further

seems like a waste of time

that's a fair point about her but i guess i can't grasp it fully because if someone dislikes me then i don't like them, and if someone is uninterested there's no desire for them because **** them

which is why i took the break up how i did, it was just like ok we're done so i'm done and why i find the obsessive behavior confusing because there's something pathetic to me about beating a dead horse and chasing someone who's clearly uninterested

it's beneath me

she was a big part of my life for about 20 years, more than half of it, it's not really possible for me to talk about my life without discussing her, but i don't have any feelings towards her anymore she thoroughly destroyed all that with erratic ******** behavior

i told her as much though i said i'd care enough to try while she was around and i'd do it indefinitely because i promised as much but i told her if she thought i'd care if she was gone she was kidding herself

so while i did make an attempt to remain on good terms and be friendly because my niece loved her and she had been family for so long etc when i saw that what she wanted was some one sided ******** and to tell me what she wished i had done during the relationship etc it became not worth the effort

her suicidal phone call followed by her next day "everything is perfect and i'm happy and everything i said yesterday is meaningless" thing was what did it for me

because that was the rollercoaster with her and i wasn't going to bother anymore

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maybe not i think i just tend to act in a way where no one's ever sure if i'm sober or not to begin with so they don't know the difference

the funny thing is when i take **** like that often for pain or whatever i feel very uncomfortable with it, but when it comes to drugs that are recreational i don't care

it's like how i won't touch something with gelatin in it normally because i don't eat meat or anything, but if it has thc in it then i don't give a **** i'd eat a steak if it was going to get me high

i'm not typically bored funny enough i can be content with meditating or reading and so on

i feel you on the hard transits my venus/ic/ascendant/descendant/marsmoon/nodes/mc have all been hit with saturn and pluto and whatnot pretty ******* hard

but i'm mostly harmless 😉

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Recreational drugs side effects are more tolerable than regular ones is without questions 😊 Nothing works good with me thought. Edible chocolate gave me major anxiety and panic attack.
I do feel Pluto transits transformational power. I might be the different person from year and half ago. However, I’m not sure where this’s going, and if it’s for good.

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Recreational drugs side effects are more tolerable than regular ones is without questions 😊 Nothing works good with me thought. Edible chocolate gave me major anxiety and panic attack.
I do feel Pluto transits transformational power. I might be the different person from year and half ago. However, I’m not sure where this’s going, and if it’s for good.

have you tried kratom? red vein is a bit opiate like, it's why i like it, legal in plenty of places too

with edibles dosing can be an issue for a lot of people and usually people who get paranoid from weed need an indica strain over sativa or a hybrid

my issue with edibles is the wait for them to work, i prefer to have edibles and bud so i can smoke while i wait and get pre-high

only have lsd and kratom right now though, going to take the former tonight

i've had pluto, saturn, jupiter, and nodes all hit every one of my angles, nodes, venus, mars and moon so it's hard to tell what's doing what but **** 's very different


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I tried Kratom for medicinal purpose. I didn’t know people getting high from it. I recalled there were a scandal and protests when they wanted to outlaw Kratom. And year or half after, they started to make cannabis legal. Go figure.

I guess I didn’t do much research how to use it, I tried to mix it with something, make tea. The taste was not good. One time, It had relaxation effect. Second, it made me nauseas.
Currently, I’m looking for something to make me more present and concentrated. Uranus and Neptune transits make me more ADD.


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with edibles dosing can be an issue for a lot of people and usually people who get paranoid from weed need an indica strain over sativa or a hybrid

my issue with edibles is the wait for them to work, i prefer to have edibles and bud so i can smoke while i wait and get pre-high



Ha, this’s so Aries moon, cannot wait 20 minutes for drugs to kick in. 😊
I see you know your stuff. I didn’t think a sort of edible could be the issue.
I wish you sticked to natural stuff. That chemical crap can really screw you up.

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i parachute kratom because drinking it is terrible and it's not cost effective to buy it as pills and filling pills yourself is annoying

too much and you'll puke yeah but when you find the right amount the red vein is good

can't recommend anything like that i guess adderall made me not mind doing boring **** and took all the songs out of my head but i didnt get all the good productive **** people mention about it or any kind of rush

ive smoked and eaten a lot of weed over the years, safest drug i enjoy with the least consequences when you use it frequently

i hate waiting for things to kick in i like feeling something instantly and when i dont i like to have something else to go with it that i will feel

this lsd is pretty safe got it from my friend's personal stash and she's already used it herself so it's all good

when lsd is legit it's not particularly dangerous, when it's that other **** though then that's different

ive gotten research chemicals once but that was instead of molly, only took one because im not a huge fan of molly anyway weird high but very similar

my ex did the same and she didnt care for it either

ex friend with benefits and some of his friends took a shitton and were pretty ****** though

this friend though i trust she's given me a shitton of shrooms before and those were amazing

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You probably have some idea altering your mental state like that often is not gonna end up well. I don’t wanna be annoying Virgo-Libra and read you a lecture, but this stuff can turn turn your brain in mush. I just recommend you to stick to the natural because you probably cannot live without it now.

If it doesn’t exist in live biology, It shouldn’t be in you. You take FDA approved stuff because the positive effects outweigh the side effects. When you take something that strong what messing your brain without supervision, you have no awareness what it does. You could be brain washed by a random person or yourself.

This mostly ends up well when you’re wealthy enough to put bunch of money to fix your body and health when you’re no longer young and beautiful.

You don’t care about it now anyway, but I guess I need to be annoying Virgo and give you a warning.

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You don’t care about it now anyway, but I guess I need to be annoying Virgo and give you a warning.


>often
i don't use lsd frequently at all, you just can't really the high doesnt work when you do because your tolerance goes way up instantly

can't annoy me with legit caring/concern even if i disagree with your stance

there are many research papers that suggest that lsd does not have longterm effects on the brain outside of the chance of psychosis which is something else and even something more natural like weed can cause this in people who are predisposed to develop these issues

many people do not

it sounds very much like you're basing your views on paranoia rather than actual research or experience

lsd is non addictive and even natural substances like weed or shrooms can have issues, shrooms in particular are very much comparable to lsd and research about them is very positive generally (including longterm effects)

i'm sober more often than i'm not lately, and i can live without drugs i just wouldn't want to because there's no reason to not enjoy this sort of thing

the fda has approved drugs that have negatively impacted people in the past, they are not an infallible organization and taking chemicals is pretty normal people do all the time

things being developed in a lab does not make them inherently unsafe and many are derived from natural things

lsd for example is in part derived from ergot and chemically similar drugs have been produced for a very long time by people even in ancient times

there are death/rebirth cults that used something similar to create ecstatic states during worship

as for the brainwashing that's very paranoid thinking borne of a lack of knowledge about how these drugs work and how present a person still is while under the influence

sleeping on your side, using straws, make up etc can all age a person poorly do you tell people not to do those things? many drugs do not age a person visually particularly when used infrequently and things which have no real longterm effects aren't a huge issue

stress is far worse on the body than many drugs, so are processed foods and chemicals used on foods that aren't heavily processed

i'm 34 most people think i'm significantly younger, part of aging and the effect things have on our bodies is genetic

not really a matter of caring just a matter of understanding what these drugs are and how they work

but yes i would prefer to enjoy the present rather than bank on living a long life

could get hit by a car and die well before i even see the effects of this sort of thing it's not like being alive is a guarantee of seeing old age

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