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ChildofVenus
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posted August 10, 2020 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've heard bad things about men who have this. The orb is at 9 degrees so maybe it wouldn't be as bad?

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posted August 10, 2020 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have it 1 degree orb what exactly do you think it makes a person into?

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posted August 10, 2020 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A non-astrology related response: If you're asking this, maybe you're not that much into him, so I would say yea (avoid).
Practically everyone has at least one harsh aspect in their natal chart, and 9 orbs is quite wide, but if you were falling in love with him, even your Mars square his Pluto on the exact degree wouldn't make you run away.
I kind of believe in first impressions. I myself consulted astrology in the past in matters of the heart, but I do believe if a romantic connection is meant to be, astrology can help examine the relationship to help solve any possible issue instead of deciding for you in the first place.

That's just my way of seeing this.

Besides, astrologically speaking, a person with an opposition between his moon and Venus in his chart could maybe successfully date a woman who has a personal planet or planets sextile one of the opposing forces and trine the other. That's one way to come across this.

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posted August 10, 2020 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
A non-astrology related response: If you're asking this, maybe you're not that much into him, so I would say yea (avoid).
Practically everyone has at least one harsh aspect in their natal chart, and 9 orbs is quite wide, but if you were falling in love with him, even your Mars square his Pluto on the exact degree wouldn't make you run away.
I kind of believe in first impressions. I myself consulted astrology in the past in matters of the heart, but I do believe if a romantic connection is meant to be, astrology can help examine the relationship to help solve any possible issue instead of deciding for you in the first place.

That's just my way of seeing this.

Besides, astrologically speaking, a person with an opposition between his moon and Venus in his chart could maybe successfully date a woman who has a personal planet or planets sextile one of the opposing forces and trine the other. That's one way to come across this.


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posted August 11, 2020 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Besides, astrologically speaking, a person with an opposition between his moon and Venus in his chart could maybe successfully date a woman who has a personal planet or planets sextile one of the opposing forces and trine the other. That's one way to come across this.

That would be me and my guy. I've Moon opposite Venus on my 1-7 axis and his Moon/Venus are trine/sextile my planets, forming a cradle. This provides some sort of emotional stability for me. With him I'm less confused and less doubtful and more secure of our connection.

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posted August 11, 2020 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
A non-astrology related response: If you're asking this, maybe you're not that much into him, so I would say yea (avoid).
Practically everyone has at least one harsh aspect in their natal chart, and 9 orbs is quite wide, but if you were falling in love with him, even your Mars square his Pluto on the exact degree wouldn't make you run away.
I kind of believe in first impressions. I myself consulted astrology in the past in matters of the heart, but I do believe if a romantic connection is meant to be, astrology can help examine the relationship to help solve any possible issue instead of deciding for you in the first place.

That's just my way of seeing this.

Besides, astrologically speaking, a person with an opposition between his moon and Venus in his chart could maybe successfully date a woman who has a personal planet or planets sextile one of the opposing forces and trine the other. That's one way to come across this.


I am into him I'm just wondering because people always have negative things to say about this aspect and the square. My MC conjuncts his Moon and my Pluto conjuncts his Venus. My Sun is in the same sign as his Moon but the conjunction is wide so I don't know if that really counts.

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posted August 11, 2020 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I am into him I'm just wondering because people always have negative things to say about this aspect and the square. My MC conjuncts his Moon and my Pluto conjuncts his Venus. My Sun is in the same sign as his Moon but the conjunction is wide so I don't know if that really counts.

The conjunction between your sun and his moon counts, though It's a bit less powerful because of the wide orb. His moon and Venus on your MC and Pluto respectively is meaningful. Actually, Pluto conjunct Venus is an extremely powerful aspect to have in synastry. It can be overwhelming and intense, and signify love that can linger beyond this life.

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posted August 11, 2020 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
The conjunction between your sun and his moon counts, though It's a bit less powerful because of the wide orb. His moon and Venus on your MC and Pluto respectively is meaningful. Actually, Pluto conjunct Venus is an extremely powerful aspect to have in synastry. It can be overwhelming and intense, and signify love that can linger beyond this life.


Thanks for your input I wish you were around more often lol. It's just his Moon that conjuncts my MC, not his Venus. So his Moon conjunct's my MC and my Pluto conjuncts his Venus.

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posted August 11, 2020 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I agree about Venus conjunct Pluto I've never had the conjunction in synastry before. As the Pluto person, it's really intense for me.

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posted August 11, 2020 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To avoid casual or personal interaction with someone because of one aspect they have in their birth chart is to put way too much emphasis on it, and in my opinion is fear-based.

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I've heard bad things about men who have this. The orb is at 9 degrees so maybe it wouldn't be as bad?

What about him? Why make assumptions about him based on rumors about others?

A 9į orb is barely an aspect.

People with Moon opposite (or square) Venus have a hard time distinguishing between their true needs and their wants. As a result, some of them prefer to be spoiled to cover all possibilities. A heterosexual man with this aspect may prefer the women he's involved with to spoil him a bit. Doing this in little ways with small gifts and tokens of admiration or appreciation is fine, but it is important to have healthy boundaries, that's all.

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posted August 11, 2020 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DecimaLife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
To avoid casual or personal interaction with someone because of one aspect they have in their birth chart is to put way too much emphasis on it, and in my opinion is fear-based.

What about him? Why make assumptions about him based on rumors about others?

A 9į orb is barely an aspect.

People with Moon square Venus have a hard time distinguishing between their true needs and their wants. As a result, some of them prefer to be spoiled to cover all possibilities. A heterosexual man with this aspect may prefer the women he's involved with to spoil him a bit. Doing this in little ways with small gifts and tokens of admiration or appreciation is fine, but it is important to have healthy boundaries, that's all.



As a heterosexual man with Moon(Leo) opposite Venus(Aqu), I agree with this statement.
But I must say this opposition can make him a little bit moody, someday hot and the next day cold, at least in my case, prepare for that.If you keep communication lines open in your relationship everything can be solved.
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posted August 11, 2020 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
To avoid casual or personal interaction with someone because of one aspect they have in their birth chart is to put way too much emphasis on it, and in my opinion is fear-based.

What about him? Why make assumptions about him based on rumors about others?

A 9į orb is barely an aspect.

People with Moon square Venus have a hard time distinguishing between their true needs and their wants. As a result, some of them prefer to be spoiled to cover all possibilities. A heterosexual man with this aspect may prefer the women he's involved with to spoil him a bit. Doing this in little ways with small gifts and tokens of admiration or appreciation is fine, but it is important to have healthy boundaries, that's all.



Moon square or opposition Venus in a man's chart is said to be a cheaters aspect it's been discussed on this forum.

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posted August 11, 2020 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have it on my ascendant/descendant (ascendant is 18 degrees libra venus is 16 degrees libra and moon is 17 degrees aries) and it's close orb and it's all square mars (12 degrees cap) and positively aspecting both mercury (17 degrees leo) and uranus (18 degrees sag) and i've never cheated

have my nodes there too 22 degrees (libra south node aries north node)

it's kind of ******** to assume someone's going to do anything ****** up just based on that

i'm bi i was in a longterm open relationship but i never have violated anyone's trust

if i say i'm committed and agree to monogamy 100% then that's what i'm doing

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posted August 11, 2020 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i have it on my ascendant/descendant (ascendant is 18 degrees libra venus is 16 degrees libra and moon is 17 degrees aries) and it's close orb and it's all square mars (12 degrees cap) and positively aspecting both mercury (17 degrees leo) and uranus (18 degrees sag) and i've never cheated

have my nodes there too 22 degrees (libra south node aries north node)

it's kind of ******** to assume someone's going to do anything ****** up just based on that

i'm bi i was in a longterm open relationship but i never have violated anyone's trust

if i say i'm committed and agree to monogamy 100% then that's what i'm doing


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posted August 11, 2020 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Moon square or opposition Venus in a man's chart is said to be a cheaters aspect it's been discussed on this forum.

Just because some people have said this on this forum, it doesn't make it so. People love to go on about Venus in Gemini, and I don't live up to what they supposedly know about *all* of us.

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posted August 11, 2020 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thanks for your input I wish you were around more often lol. It's just his Moon that conjuncts my MC, not his Venus. So his Moon conjunct's my MC and my Pluto conjuncts his Venus.

You're welcome yea I've figured that out, that's why I wrote "respectively" (moon-MC, Venus-Pluto).
I personally would love to have a Venus-Pluto conjunction with a soulmate / twin-self... the passion... (of course it shouldn't be the only aspect in the synastry, but hey, a twin self is a twin self, and while his chart would surely harmonize with mine, I suggest you read "Gooberz" by Linda Goodman if you haven't by now, it has the right message to put all these issues into perspective.

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posted August 11, 2020 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You're welcome yea I've figured that out, that's why I wrote "respectively" (moon-MC, Venus-Pluto).
I personally would love to have a Venus-Pluto conjunction with a soulmate / twin-self... the passion... (of course it shouldn't be the only aspect in the synastry, but hey, a twin self is a twin self, and while his chart would surely harmonize with mine, I suggest you read "Gooberz" by Linda Goodman if you haven't by now, it has the right message to put all these issues into perspective.

had that with my ex but she had venus/pluto in scorpio conjunct natal so she had that with plenty of people, nothing special i don't think

other aspects worked well, together almost 15 years, but she on/off stalks me now and i want nothing to do with her so ultimately not worth it

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posted August 11, 2020 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
had that with my ex but she had venus/pluto in scorpio conjunct natal so she had that with plenty of people, nothing special i don't think

other aspects worked well, together almost 15 years, but she on/off stalks me now and i want nothing to do with her so ultimately not worth it



Nothing special really? Do you mean it wasn't anything special to your ex because she had Venus conjunct Pluto in her natal chart? The guy I have this with also has Venus conjunct Pluto in his natal chart. I've never had Venus conjunct Pluto in synastry before so it feels like something to me lol. And I would imagine that this aspect is probably one of the reasons why this guy likes me or maybe it's the house overlays. He said he thinks I'm perfect for him I think that's kind of odd lol. Especially since our synastry is bad. I don't think Venus conjunct Pluto in synastry feels the same with every person you have it with. Because orbs can be different so the feeling wouldn't be the same with each person.

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posted August 12, 2020 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dumuzi:
[b] had that with my ex but she had venus/pluto in scorpio conjunct natal so she had that with plenty of people, nothing special i don't think

other aspects worked well, together almost 15 years, but she on/off stalks me now and i want nothing to do with her so ultimately not worth it



Nothing special really? Do you mean it wasn't anything special to your ex because she had Venus conjunct Pluto in her natal chart? The guy I have this with also has Venus conjunct Pluto in his natal chart. I've never had Venus conjunct Pluto in synastry before so it feels like something to me lol. And I would imagine that this aspect is probably one of the reasons why this guy likes me or maybe it's the house overlays. He said he thinks I'm perfect for him I think that's kind of odd lol. Especially since our synastry is bad. I don't think Venus conjunct Pluto in synastry feels the same with every person you have it with. Because orbs can be different so the feeling wouldn't be the same with each person.[/B][/QUOTE]

i mean it just isnt very special on its own

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i mean it just isnt very special on its own

😊 what phases you though? 😝
Do you think any aspect is special on its own? I don't think I do, it's like flour, not as nice on its own as chocolate, but taken as everything it's part of, flour outranks chocolate by far...

@Child I think if you ask that way you should avoid guys, or astrology, or at least not do both at once.

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posted August 12, 2020 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know someone with Venus sq, moon and bunch of other hard aspects with Venus- still not a cheater. He concentrates his attention at one woman at time, even kinda clingy, had only serious relationships,
I often see the opposite energies in charts. I think they can counteract each other expressions.

If there is a good opportunity and some alcohol , many men with well-aspected Venus could go South.

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posted August 13, 2020 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus opposite/square Moon individuals are eager to please and keep peace because they're sensitive to their partner's needs, so in return they also need constant reassurance that they're loved and appreciated. It can be small gestures like saying 'thank you', little gifts, acts of service etc.

I don't know how this cheater image got developed. Perhaps they encountered people with this aspect who cheated on them or perhaps they've been misinformed (just like how Gemini Venus are also often being branded as cheaters) but if anyone feels unloved & unappreciated for too long they will start to look elsewhere too, whether or not they have this aspect.

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posted August 13, 2020 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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quite a bit can actually, i'm pretty ******* sensitive somewhere in there lol i can be extremely apathetic and most people can't get under my skin but when i do care that's very different altogether

also plenty of me is rubbed raw, didn't spend most of my life drowning in drugs for no reason you know

but anyway i don't think my pluto being conjunct her venus/pluto meant much because it's an outer planet and while mine does aspect my sun, my sun didn't aspect that conjunction (wouldve been 8 degrees too large an orb for a sextile)

i'd argue my mars sextiling that was probably more meaningful in our synastry

if i remember right her sun sextiled my venus and so on, the kite in my chart hit her sun and some other ****

really though it was ultimately just a mess, felt like that song no children by the mountain goats i was just going to stick with it til i died due to promises and out of obligation felt bad for her (all her trauma and issues), we knew each other a long time, and when we did get along we had a lot of fun together frequent sex too

i wouldn't say it was pluto that did it though she was very plutonic just generally (scorpio stellium, pluto/venus square her ascendant) i think that's why she doesn't entirely **** off even though she was the one who broke up with me initially and ive told her since to leave me alone (tried being friends after didnt work out, couldnt deal with her weird erratic crazy **** )

if it meant a lot though to her in particular anyone in our age group would have affected her the same and if it meant a lot to me then ive known a few people aside from her that wouldve hit me like that and didnt

new person who's affecting me more deeply than she ever did doesnt have that going on so there's that

edit: i also agree, nothing in synastry can hinge on one aspect

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posted August 13, 2020 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I know someone with Venus sq, moon and bunch of other hard aspects with Venus- still not a cheater. He concentrates his attention at one woman at time, even kinda clingy, had only serious relationships,
I often see the opposite energies in charts. I think they can counteract each other expressions.

If there is a good opportunity and some alcohol , many men with well-aspected Venus could go South.


i've had plenty of good opportunities + alcohol (and other drugs) and never cheated even with the aspect

**** one time i was tripping balls on shrooms and my ex was passed out and my friend with benefits was drunk and getting touchy trying to get somewhere with it and i turned him down just because her and i hadn't discussed sex in that context yet

perfectly capable of self control with that

i flirt and **** don't get me wrong that's just my personality, i dont do it secretly though and it doesn't mean anything but actual cross lines cheating? never have

questionable gray area stuff? sure but you know limits

granted i'm not necessarily big on monogamy but for the right person i'd be able to i'm pretty sure and i'd even avoid the gray area type **** and the flirting (as far as i can help it, it's very accidental sometimes someone flirts with me and i just respond in turn with whatever they put out rather than any actual feeling on my part)

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Iís of course teasing but, actually, thanks for reminding me, I always tend to forcefully obliterate this idea that lots of people turn to drugs and whatnot for numbness out of heightened sensitivity for some reason thatís probably exactly halfway between ďis so not how I manage mineĒ and ďitís been made such a cliche by the music industryĒ lol
But yes, of course you do, we all do 😊
I was thinking of you the other day as Iíve well entered some long ass Pluto transit thatís also paired with other Pluto transits, letís just say my instincts say withdrawal and decluttering and Iím answering that call, so of course, people who tended to rely on me for emotional babysitting are a little miffed. So I was told off by some princess the other day and I completely not reacted as it was obviously unfair, but she was being emotional so of course to her I was a cold hearted monster and I imagined how often you probably got that response for no reason at all because of your go-to apathy. Most people tend to see that as some uber strength but as Iíve said, we all care, I imagine itís harder when youíre that much either/or, you donít get to micro manage until you can cope with the big stuff, and then you probably have to deal with othersí image of you that youíre never affected which can add a fuckton to any feelingÖ

Iím super attracted to Plutonian energy so I want it to matter, okay? lol Anything lower than those notes and it sounds bland to me, thatís just how Iím wired, Pluto squares my moon, sextiles my Venus and ASC, my mars is Scorpio, I do tend to sense it when these babiesí (read anyone a ďdayĒ younger than I am lol) Pluto comes to mess with my mars or moon, and it annoys me as all hell because it does not mean everything either, I can get over it quite easily if nothing else happens, but I donít want to because it always seems like some waste of Pluto power ďWhy is your Mercury so unstimulating and your Sun so distant? With anything to tell each other and some basic common point we could have had Pluto going on for us!!!!Ē lol

Also, can we agree on setting a new trend and stop calling ĎPlutonianí people who are hardcore vintage poor Pluto and do the jealous thing to an extreme, self-destruct etcÖ? I mean, sure those are classic Pluto moves, but these people fail to do the interesting bit, the rebirth part, so could we start some astrological movement thatís going to consist in maybe just the two of us ever but where we only grant the Plutonian adjective to evolved types who actually make the most of it? I mean, thatís when it gets *really* sexy and Iím in a Pluto mist right now, I need deep real hot sexy like I need air 😊
That said, I think how it works with Pluto is itís you affecting yourself by some rebound mechanism, which is why itís so binding, itís as if the other person unlocked something in you only they can, but the thing itself is in and from you. I was wondering because of that, if, and that not to diss my Pluto baby, I will always love Pluto and want it in some form somewhere, otherwise youíre not in check, you donít know if youíre true if you the bullshite Ďrevealerí doesnít strip it raw; contacts to the Sun shouldnít be ďoverĒevaluated, and I mean Sun to Sun mostly, in synastry.
We make a whole fuss out of everything, but even as ourselves, we donít express our patterns or all our planets every day, most of us got into astrology either because our mere sun sign clicked or not at all with us, so why seek SO much meaning in some inconjunct or remote parallel between some outer planet and a secondary personal one? If anything, Iím pretty sure the first bint to conjure up a synastry did it to explain an absence of obvious compatibility in sun signs lol Why look further? Sure squares will create interesting tensions, but if the Suns say yes, thatís a lot of the road already walked, isnít it?
(probably not, I imagine the total absence of science and childishness of the point will be severely debunked by people who donít even need to be proper astrologer but, but lol sometimes a girl needs to vent 😊 . It also annoys me how relationship astrology is being buried in cook book sums of aspects, and squares, to outer planets especially, are being looked at deal breakers when most of us have them natal anyway and one thing even teenagers know is no marriage is perfect, so why do readers keep on debunking charts because they donít show relationships that do not even exist in reality? Iíll stop venting before it becomes ranting 😊

Iím sorry your ex still is there in that way for you, but on the plus side Iím glad youíre posting which proves you survived your risky lockdown situation as well as putting that deep Virgo sensitivity (donít worry, they donít believe us when we tell them, no one will accept to know 😉 to use 😊

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