posted September 25, 2020 12:40 PM            

Yep, though they seem to be more rare then men, they're definitely still out there. Wasn't aware from your earlier postings she was quite to that level of such a lack of empathy and conscience.

posted September 26, 2020 01:18 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
"that being said her being a woman doesn't mean she felt empathy, she clearly didn't and would say as much repeatedly throughout my relationship with her."

Yep, though they seem to be more rare then men, they're definitely still out there. Wasn't aware from your earlier postings she was quite to that level of such a lack of empathy and conscience.

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i didn't find it initially relevant to the conversation or topic and like i've said before for as much as i do say there's plenty i don't

people often think they know me better than they do because i'm rather open about personal things, but i don't share plenty particularly here and it's only through one on one conversation and becoming close that a person gets a full scope

initially i was just talking about venus/pluto **** before odette decided she was capable of fully judging me and my situation based on her life and herself, and quite honestly even still there's a lot i haven't said

but that's not for here

the reality is karmic situations can be quite **** but growth from them is invaluable so i hold no ill will toward my ex on any level

posted September 26, 2020 06:10 PM            

I mean I'm an Aries so that’s something I'm particularly good at! 😂 Lol...

Seriously, please don’t take offence. These are just my opinions based on my own life experience and knowledge.

I realise some of the things I'm saying are absolutely not the "norm".

A great majority of people apply the DSM criteria and believe that cluster B disorders are significant and an important way to classify psychological illness.

For many years I did myself. I ended up reading extensively about this and came to different conclusions, but thank you for the book suggestion Galactic! That sounds interesting.

posted September 26, 2020 06:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I'm talking about myself lol

I mean I'm an Aries os that’s something I'm particularly good at! 😂 Lol...

Seriously, please don’t take offence. These are just my opinions based on my own life experience and knowledge.

I realise some of the things I'm saying are absolutely not the "norm".

A great majority of people apply the DSM criteria and believe that cluster B disorders are significant and an important way to classify psychological illness.

For many years I did myself. I ended up reading extensively about this and came to different conclusions, but thank you for the book suggestion Galactic! That sounds interesting.

I probably shouldn't have given you unwanted advice here Dumuzi.. I honestly just felt like - how passionate you are about this and the way you're expressing yourself - reminded me of my own emotional reactions in the past...
But I'm sorry if I upset you in any way!

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yeah, you're right, you shouldn't have because you gave it without knowing the situation on any real level and just told me about your projections

i don't need advice what's done is done and even if i did taking it from someone who has no clue what they're talking about and doesn't know the situation would be idiotic on my part

you weren't just talking about yourself though, in the sense of projections yes but you clearly made a lot of assumptions

i wouldn't say "upset" as that implies some level of pain and hurt and that's not how i feel 🤔 there's no real nice way of saying this so i'll just say it: i think you just sounded like an idiot and i dislike unsolicited advice coming from ignorant places particularly when things are implied about me as a person that are completely off base

so upset isn't the right word (as far as i would define it) really more that i found everything about it distasteful, repulsive, and ****** on your part

but it's a reflection of you not me so i'm not really inclined to take it too personally ultimately, however because you did that i felt the reality of my situation needed to shared to a larger extent for balance and a clearer picture

ultimately it comes down to the fact that i just don't care for people speaking passionately out of sheer ignorance at me as if they have room to talk about things they don't know about

it's grating and obnoxious and i'm not a fan of having to deal with unpleasant ******** and yet here we are... so in the sense that you've made me have to deal with garbage for balance purposes when really i'd rather not be bothered i suppose you could say i'm "upset" at the exertion and time spent on something unpleasant

i find it very inconvenient to have to deal with that sort of thing and i really hate it when people speak to someone they've imagined and projections rather than me

"i'm sorry if i upset you" isn't an actual apology btw, you can't really apologize for other people's feelings only your own behaviors, so spare me the inauthentic apology it's unnecessary and i don't need it

posted September 26, 2020 06:40 PM            

Dumzi has attacked me several times for who knows what, my Friend.

I ignore all attacks, of which there have been many.

You are an amazing person who should not waste time on things that are not worth your valuable time!

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posted September 26, 2020 06:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Odette

Dumzi has attacked me several times for who knows what, my Friend.

I ignore all attacks, of which there have been many.

You are an amazing person who should not waste time on things that are not worth your valuable time!

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i haven't attacked you, i've disagreed with you about stuff but that's about it

if you can't handle people disagreeing with you ever maybe forums aren't for you, but i don't recall ever even arguing with you

posted September 26, 2020 07:13 PM            

whatever's happened between us i must've been high during because i really have no recollection and i know i haven't spoken to you recently (i responded in your mars neptune thread but only to explain the placement) so i can only assume i was completely wasted when i did

i'd honestly love to know because i'm wracking my brain trying to remember these attacks you're talking about and drawing blanks

though that being said your personal bias isn't really fair in this situation and disregards what's actually happened

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posted September 26, 2020 07:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I ignore you because you have attacked me many times. End of discussion. Odette is my long term friend and I pass my love and wisdom to her.

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what have i said to you though? when? i honestly don't remember ever saying anything to you other than disagreeing about your views on an asteroid

i avoid speaking to you and have for a while because i can tell you don't like me and i'm fairly sure it was due to an asteroid discussion, and if i recall correctly i think i pointed out that i noticed you wouldn't speak to me after that once

neither was an attack as far as i remember, hence the genuine confusion here

i'm aware of my substance abuse issues though and my habit of saying things in a way that can be harsher than what i mean so i can assume it's possible i said something but again... no idea i don't think i've directly spoken to you in like a year because it seemed pointless and i never really feel the need, maybe more 🤔

if you remember specifics i'd love to know what you're annoyed about though

anyway loyalty is nice and all but it's not really about who you like better here, she projected her issues onto me and brought things to a personal place

even our friends can be in the wrong

posted September 27, 2020 06:57 AM            

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i would talk to you elsewhere about other things the same as i would anyone else so it's really irrelevant

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Ok. I'm cool with that ^

I wasn't speaking to projections or to "someone I imagined" and wasn't making assumptions. I was sharing my life experience and opinions.
But I apologise - as I said - for the unasked/unwanted advice.

posted September 27, 2020 08:25 AM            

That means a lot to me.

I found my passion when I found Astrology. I am so happy to have it!

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posted September 27, 2020 12:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Dumuzi -

Ok. I'm cool with that ^

I wasn't speaking to projections or to "someone I imagined" and wasn't making assumptions. I was sharing my life experience and opinions.
But I apologise - as I said - for the unasked/unwanted advice.

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you phrased things in a way that came off differently than intended, which i get (aries moon myself) so it's all good

i don't hold grudges, that's why i said i thought what you said was dumb rather than calling you dumb, even smart people say stupid **** sometimes would be unfair to let that be something that colors my entire perspective of someone

sorry for being harsh myself, i could stand to think before i speak and try a different approach myself

to get back on topic:

i think one strong thing i've noticed with venus pluto is that there's a possessiveness that extends well beyond the break up and regardless of actions or distance

this sort of desire to own the other person's soul without reflecting on what's right there and whether or not it's even meant for them in a sense

posted October 06, 2020 10:44 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Venus/Pluto trine.

If I want a break up I usually tell the partner immediately and straight forward. (Aries influence)

If the partner wants a break up with me, I'll ask first what's wrong, then I will try to explain if there's a misunderstanding, but 99% I usually agree, I don't like make things complicated, if they don't want the relationship, I won't try to make them stay, no matter how much I like them. (Aqua Sag influence) -- but I hate a disappear-reappeared act in a relationship, like ghosting but then reappear claiming no break up once you enjoy your single life or someone gets close to you. wtf.

Usually once break up/off time, my trust starts decreasing, if the relationship has too many on-off the trust keeps decreasing until I don't care anymore. (Pluto influence)

I don't think I relate with "all or nothing" because I don't think I can fully hate someone (exalted venus + moon/jupiter conjunction) but I can fully detach from someone if I reach a stage of "I don't care anymore" and it's very hard for me to change my mind no matter how much
the partner tries to make it up because the process to that stage is painful for me.

I don't think I have a hard time to move on, but I usually need a long time for myself to be in another relationship. I honestly enjoy single life because the freedom you can't get from having a relationship.

Soft aspect gives a very positive influence I think for the individual although not that in your eyes luck. In a relationship, the partner feels enchanted by this aspect in the individual.

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posted October 07, 2020 11:56 AM            

If I love someone unconditionally I would do it my whole life. It doesn’t matter if they were ***** , I would always want them to be okey.

I can let go people, but people have a hard time letting me go. Kinda weird but true.

posted October 07, 2020 05:58 PM            

It is extremely hard for me to let go... and the man I ve loved they refuse to let me go either ( they want me to be their everything forever but dont want commitment )...

Once I let go, I cant be friends. I will be civilised and be friendly if we come across but other than that...no...cant be friends.

the memory of my broken heart and the pain I had to go through will stand in between us.

The ones I deeply loved, who gave me deep scars.. they call once or twice every year.. I talk... but I refuse to meet for a coffee...

Venus square Pluto, opposite Saturn, square chiron woman