posted December 13, 2020 04:11 PM            

Now in astro charts she is registered as a cancer ascendant, but on astrotheme they have her as scorpio rising.

Watching her interviews I dont think she is scorpio rising. I have three scorpio rising people in my family and they all have that resting cold expression and those piercing eyes. That being said Chrissy has her venus in scorpio, her sun in saggatarius and her mars in libra.

So maybe her moon is what is giving her this soft appearance. What do you think? Its hard for me to believe she is a scorpio rising, but weird that astrotheme has it standing there.

posted December 13, 2020 04:22 PM            

Astrodienst has her down as a Scorpio ascendant, too. She has that Cancer Moon, and has published at least two cookbooks, had a food blog. Her mum lives with her, and just published her own cookbook.

posted December 13, 2020 05:15 PM            

I'm a Scorpio ascendant, who can have that "look" so I think I know what you mean. She has Venus conjunct her ascendant, and a packed first house - she shares a birthday with my mum, who was a social butterfly, and also very hard-working. She loved to get to know people, and also loved a good party, loved to cook, etc. [/QUO

I noticed that both sites have her birth time at 6:10, but one is 6:10 am and one pm. Lol. So that is why there is a misunderstaning.

Yeah maybe its her venus conjunct ascendant? Another thing is the facial expressions she is know for, like she is very expressive with her face and that is a cancer thing.
Maybe her openness comes from the first house planets = alot of fire/aries

posted December 14, 2020 04:44 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Nm, decided to move to its own thread as some of it is off topic.

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posted December 14, 2020 07:18 PM            

If understand, was explaining how much Planets near the ASC can and do modify the Rising Sign archetype.

posted December 15, 2020 04:27 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Didn't understand, or didn't see?

If understand, was explaining how much Planets near the ASC can and do modify the Rising Sign archetype.

If you didn't see it instead, I copy and pasted it over here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/242539.html

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Now I saw the thread.

So for example I know someone who has mars conjunct their scorpio ascendant by less than one degree 1. Acendant is also opposed by saturn and squared by uranus.So how do you think that would affect their appearance ? Said person comes across as abit combative, easiy to get competitive and vengful.

Her appearance: she has the typical scorpio gaze and a strong bone structure

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posted December 15, 2020 03:54 PM            

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So for example I know someone who has mars conjunct their scorpio ascendant by less than one degree 1. Acendant is also opposed by saturn and squared by uranus.So how do you think that would affect their appearance ? Said person comes across as abit combative, easiy to get competitive and vengful.

Her appearance: she has the typical scorpio gaze and a strong bone structure

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Assuming that the physical and spiritual birth times were close, and thus the chart is more accurate than not (I NEVER actually assume this btw):

With Mars conjunction to Scorpio ASC. We would see a more physically energetic, muscular, and wiry build. The sex drive is likely to be even much higher. This is a woman with above average testosterone and related more "male" hormones than typical for a woman. The Saturn and Uranus along with Mars, indicates a much faster metabolism than Scorpio normally indicates.

Depending on how close the respective Uranus and Saturn aspects separately, the height coul either be slightly increased or slightly decreased over the archetypal Scorpio which is from average to shorter than average. If Uranus is closer and stronger, it will slightly increase. If Saturn is closer and stronger then it will slightly decrease--but in that sense they have a bit of a canceling indication as Uranus inclines to height and Saturn inclines to shortness--hence why I say "slightly" for either one. However, they both share a fast metabolism.

Unless they have powerful counterbalancing patterns/indications (i.e. simultaneously very strong Venus, and especially Neptune, Jupiter, and/or Sun), this inclines towards a narcissistic pattern--possibly even towards the malignant end of the spectrum.

As to your other questions I did not quote. Yes, closer trines can shade into the looks and energy.

Conjunctions are strongest, followed by oppositions, squares, trines, and with sextiles they have to be rather close to indicate much of anything (like 2 degrees or less). Parallels are somewhere in between there, but I'm not exactly sure. Kannon McAfee would be better to ask about those.

I haven't noticed Neptune or Pluto altering the PHYSICAL patterns of the Rising Sign much at all (especially as compared to the other Planets). If and when they do, it is usually more subtle, and all in all, its more of a vibe and/or mannerisms type thing. Neptune can feminize, slightly slow down the metabolism and and give a mystique type look (think Marilyn Monroe who had a rather Yang Rising Sign, Leo).

posted December 15, 2020 04:03 PM            

And again, she is not at the attractive level of someone with Venus closely conjunct her ASC imo. But, she would still be rather Venusian energetically. I'm not saying she is unattractive, but I consider her only a bit more than average. Venus inclines towards balance, proportion, and symmetry more--there is something about her face that is too broad and round that is much more Lunar/Cancer+Scorpio, than Scorpio+Venus.

posted December 16, 2020 07:24 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Assuming that the physical and spiritual birth times were close, and thus the chart is more accurate than not (I NEVER actually assume this btw):

With Mars conjunction to Scorpio ASC. We would see a more physically energetic, muscular, and wiry build. The sex drive is likely to be even much higher. This is a woman with above average testosterone and related more "male" hormones than typical for a woman. The Saturn and Uranus along with Mars, indicates a much faster metabolism than Scorpio normally indicates.

Depending on how close the respective Uranus and Saturn aspects separately, the height coul either be slightly increased or slightly decreased over the archetypal Scorpio which is from average to shorter than average. If Uranus is closer and stronger, it will slightly increase. If Saturn is closer and stronger then it will slightly decrease--but in that sense they have a bit of a canceling indication as Uranus inclines to height and Saturn inclines to shortness--hence why I say "slightly" for either one. However, they both share a fast metabolism.

Unless they have powerful counterbalancing patterns/indications (i.e. simultaneously very strong Venus, and especially Neptune, Jupiter, and/or Sun), this inclines towards a narcissistic pattern--possibly even towards the malignant end of the spectrum.

As to your other questions I did not quote. Yes, closer trines can shade into the looks and energy.

Conjunctions are strongest, followed by oppositions, squares, trines, and with sextiles they have to be rather close to indicate much of anything (like 2 degrees or less). Parallels are somewhere in between there, but I'm not exactly sure. Kannon McAfee would be better to ask about those.

I haven't noticed Neptune or Pluto altering the PHYSICAL patterns of the Rising Sign much at all (especially as compared to the other Planets). If and when they do, it is usually more subtle, and all in all, its more of a vibe and/or mannerisms type thing. Neptune can feminize, slightly slow down the metabolism and and give a mystique type look (think Marilyn Monroe who had a rather Yang Rising Sign, Leo).

With Pluto, it's more of a hyper charging of the aura, an intensity that you can feel, especially in the eyes. If the conjunction, opposition or square is really close (-3 degrees), there might be a slight increase in physical strength and muscularity, but I haven't noticed too much "obvious" about Pluto when it comes to looks altering all in all.

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Its interesting what you were saying. The girl with the scorpio ascendant is actually is slightly taller than average, and she does have a fast metabolism can eat quickly and in masses. And she still looks healthy and slim.Like you said abit wiry and sometimes muscular. From her energy shes definitely abit too competitive for leaning towards masculine. But I think her virgo venus and moon give her abit femininityto balance it out.

With the narcissistic thing you mentioned. Her dominant planet is mars then Jupiter, sun, mercury and pluto. Her sun is in leo, moon and venus retograte both in virgo. (Mars in scorpio). And she has ALOT of squares from uranus, saturn neptune and pluto.

Sun square Mars
Sun square Ascendant
Sun opposite Uranus
Sun square Saturn
Venus square Pluto (orb 6)
Venus Conjunction Moon
Sun square Mars
Mars opposite Saturn
Mars square Uranus
Mercury opposite Neptune
Mercury square Jupiter

Ok Im deviating from the main topic. But Im kind of wondering if her chart really indicates narcissistic traits. As you see she has alot of hard aspects, I didnt list the soft ones.

posted December 16, 2020 07:38 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
If Teigen does have Scorpio ASC, it's likely earlier and very closely trine the Cancer Moon--that is what would indicate the rather round face, which combined with the Scorpio would also show a broad, round face.

And again, she is not at the attractive level of someone with Venus closely conjunct her ASC imo. But, she would still be rather Venusian energetically. I'm not saying she is unattractive, but I consider her only a bit more than average. Venus inclines towards balance, proportion, and symmetry more--there is something about her face that is too broad and round that is much more Lunar/Cancer+Scorpio, than Scorpio+Venus.

Check major life events, etc to see if fits earlier Scorp Rising very closely trine Cancer Moon or current chart fits better. From a looks indication/correlation, imo, the former fits better.

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Ok so I think opinions differ, maybe its her style thats making her more attractive and feminine. She has venus in scorpio, mars in libra and I dont find her style very scorpio like. The scorpios I know lean towards black, dark colours, leather, metalic stuff.

But I agree she could be scorpio ascendant I definitely see it now. However in case she had cancer, her 7th house would be in capricorn. And shes married to John Legend who has mostly capricorn placements, which would make him fall in her 7th or 8th house. They always seems so deeply in love so I could see that.

posted December 16, 2020 03:59 PM            

Venus is her Lunar Loka planet in the nirayana zodac decans and is a very good way of helping confirm an Ascendant since we're drawing from something inside her chart instead of subjective associations of Asc with appearances.

Check the source data at Astrodatabank. A news report gave birth time as 6:10 AM. So the speculations of Cancer rising are a miss.

Plus look at her synastry with her husband, John Legend, whose Venus-Uranus conjunction is conjunct her Asc, and whose Jupiter at 18N59 is contra-parallel her Asc 18° south.

His North Node is also sextile this Asc.

posted December 16, 2020 04:11 PM            

This is about as easy a confirmation as you'll see. Couldn't done this one in my sleep.

posted December 16, 2020 06:40 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I think she’s pretty.

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well beauty is in the eye of the beholder 🤷‍♀️ i find her extremely unattractive, and like i said in the same way i do khloe kardashian (though i'd **** all of her sisters so i'm assuming there's astrology at play here)

posted December 16, 2020 07:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
well beauty is in the eye of the beholder 🤷‍♀️ i find her extremely unattractive, and like i said in the same way i do khloe kardashian (though i'd **** all of her sisters so i'm assuming there's astrology at play here)

i'm assuming you aren't bi teasel because she's the sort of woman mostly straight women and gay men will find pretty

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posted December 17, 2020 05:37 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I don't think I am. I've never wanted to date a woman. I'm not gorgeous, but I sometimes think I look okay, and men have been attracted to me. I used to get the "sexy" thing more, though, and Chrissy started out in Sports Illustrated, didn't she?

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i can tell, because there's a sort of woman people who aren't attracted sexually attracted to women find appealing (her) so you calling her pretty made it obvious to me 😁 i dont know that ive ever seen you 🤔 maybe, if i did this past however long was distracting enough to push out of my head

i know you've seen me, you're the only one here who has and i know i saw your mom 🤔but cant recall actual visual (i cant visualize though)

idk where she started this is my first time seeing her ever tbh, but that seems irrelevant people get there for their bodies and its her face that i find unattractive

posted December 17, 2020 06:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
well beauty is in the eye of the beholder 🤷‍♀️ i find her extremely unattractive, and like i said in the same way i do khloe kardashian (though i'd **** all of her sisters so i'm assuming there's astrology at play here)

i'm assuming you aren't bi teasel because she's the sort of woman mostly straight women and gay men will find pretty

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posted December 17, 2020 07:08 AM            

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Originally posted by honeyloveee:
Not comparable. Khloe is all plastic.

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when she wasnt, the plastic is an improvement

i'm talking about the pug face

posted December 17, 2020 08:28 AM            

her cheeks look like she mightve had them done 🤷‍♀️ if we're going to talk about plastic

she also wears a lot of make up

edit: headlines like this kind of make that plastic point a bit worthless

posted December 17, 2020 10:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

her cheeks look like she mightve had them done 🤷‍¡đ️ if we're going to talk about plastic

she also wears a lot of make up

edit: headlines like this kind of make that plastic point a bit worthless

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I thought you were talking about her face and now this post about her breast implants. If you look at her before pictures she looks pretty much the same, always had a fuller broad face. Khloe has transformed into a different human being. Yes Teigen got the breast fillers. I wrote that in the initial comment but edited it out because it doesnt have much to do with the topic: her rising sign.

Im not trying to convince you that shes attractive either.

posted December 17, 2020 10:26 AM            

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Originally posted by honeyloveee:
I thought you were talking about her face and now this post about her breast implants. If you look at her before pictures she looks pretty much the same, always had a fuller broad face. Khloe has transformed into a different human being. Yes Teigen got the breast fillers. I wrote that in the initial comment but edited it out because it doesnt have much to do with the topic: her rising sign.

Im not trying to convince you that shes attractive either that´s not my topic.

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i was talking about her face and khloe's pre-surgery face, when you said plastic though (literally said "when she wasn't"

also from what i can see she's openly had fillers and botox at the very least which would distort certain things (and you can see the difference in her lips in a time lapse) though body is also part of rising sign

i can spot a cancer ascendant woman based on their **** , with like 90% accuracy for example

khloe kardashian's face is plastic surgery now but it wasnt always

and i see common points there in head shape how their features are on their face etc and so on

edit: also initial point was that her face does look like some things have been done, her cheeks sit oddly on her face for example (in a way that's common with plastic surgery