posted December 17, 2020 10:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
with who? we cool 🤷‍♀️

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Yeah not you at all just seems to be a tricky subject...we cool we cool 😄

posted December 17, 2020 10:37 AM            

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Originally posted by lumičre-gitan:
sauerkraut, i hadn't thought of the right word. i meant a boyfriend or girlfriend thief. a person who wants and takes what is already taken.

those ladys who date married men and break families or long term relationships up. men sometimes do too. yes competitive but against what? if the one being cheated on does not know there is a competition?
could pluto have inclination for this?

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posted December 17, 2020 01:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Travelman:
Well, in that case (unevolved), it could be any sign...

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obviously. as i implied in my second post after looking at a small batch of empirical data, it could be any sign for conquest or unfaithfulness. i went with aries in theory for the conquest part of the question based on what ive read and myself. the raw data showed otherwise.

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Originally posted by lumičre-gitan:
sauerkraut, i hadn't thought of the right word. i meant a boyfriend or girlfriend thief. a person who wants and takes what is already taken.

those ladys who date married men and break families or long term relationships up. men sometimes do too. yes competitive but against what? if the one being cheated on does not know there is a competition?
could pluto have inclination for this?

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the title of the thread is throwing the discussion off here. the real inquiry seems to be more lilith based synastry or maybe not? a person cant really “steal” someone who is supposedly committed if that person didnt want to stray. the emphasis shouldnt be on the “homewrecker” but on the one who made and broke the commitment. maybe you mean someone who gets off on that? that could be anyone with low self esteem or worth.

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Originally posted by MMarie:
Haha how many times do I have to say it I wasn’t saying cheating more so liking the unattainable aspect. ... Everyone’s different and experience things differently. That was just my opinion of attraction towards the unavailable with the knowledge I have.

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THIS. lol mmarie.. i admire your patience.

posted December 18, 2020 05:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Sauerkraut:
hmm on second thought, not sure what you are asking exactly? someone who wants what is taken is technically not a cheater..

a handful of people in question that i no longer associate with for various and obvious reasons:

- guy with aries venus in 3rd (sag mars 12th) who “stole” his current fiance from her long term bf. he told me the story in a very conquest-ish way. although he is faithful in action, he has many crushes and finds it a conquest for any of them to like him back
- guy with scorpio venus in 7th (libra mars 6th) who cheated on all his girlfriends with new girls, exes, married girls.. it didnt matter to him, no barriers could stop him and actually excited him. a serial “monogamist” with serial affairs
- girl with leo venus (cancer mars) who loved flirting inappropriately with guys who were taken. she would meet up with them “innocently” and publicly praised their relationships, however she would make snide remarks about their wives or girlfriends to me. she is also a serial “monogamist” who isnt exactly loyal. it seem like she strayed when not getting the attention but still talked about how great her relationship was
- guy with leo venus (virgo mars) who was/is in a good loving marriage and constantly tried to hit on me behind his wifes back. both him and his wife were loved by many close to them who thought they were the epitome of a great marriage. it got very awkward for me as i was cool with the wife. i removed myself from them and that whole circle of friends
- guy with virgo venus (libra mars) who cheated on his girlfriends with exes whenever the current one was on the outs
- guy with capricorn venus (aquarius mars) who married his long term girlfriend expressed to me that humans arent meant to belong to one person, although his wife doesnt need to know this

i guess the pattern here is that cheaters gonna cheat, conquesters gonna conquest, people gonna people? the actual cheaters on my list all have venus and mars in adjacent signs but i dont think thats a thing and is also only true for my small bit of data..

i have aries venus in 5th square cancer mars in 8th. when i was younger (late teens/early 20s), you could say i liked conquests. i didnt particularly care for the person afterwards and whether they were taken or not didnt matter. that didnt necessarily excite me and actually appalled me mostly. i hated disloyal liars. i just didnt care because it had nothing to do with me - feed my sad sad ego > my hypocritical idealistic spout. fortunately i became more conscious of these ways and realized that was not cool at all. i have always been loyal in relationships though, even when they were casual.

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I also know someone with Virgo Venus/Libra Mars who has a pattern of 'exit cheating'. Cheating when they felt a relationship was over anyway, and then ending the relationship because 'it's definitely over now, so I have to end it'. Almost like not being happy isn't a good enough reason to end it, and cheating to provide a 'good enough' reason.

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posted December 25, 2020 05:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Could be the asteroid Lie or even Bilk, but this is more with money. Neptune in hard aspect to Mercury may do it too. This is the lie aspect

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posted December 26, 2020 05:02 AM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
I don't know if someone said this one already, but a Sagittarius Venus is a cheater placement, I think. I always saw them the hard to commit type.

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posted December 26, 2020 05:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
men with a Venus-Neptune hard aspect in their natal, and men with a Mars - Uranus hard aspect - i havent met one that hasnt cheated.
If you know of a man with the aformentioned aspects who is not a cheater, please let me know because at this point I am getting very biased and whenever i see it in a man's chart i am like "i know what you are doing, dudums" tz, tz,tz

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Venus-Neptune by itself is not enough in a man's chart. He may idealize his lovers and be in love with those he can't have but it's not enough to make him cheat.

posted December 26, 2020 05:50 AM            

Moon/Venus in Cap or in hard aspect to Saturn when compared with naughtier Moon/Venus/Mars placements will probably cheat later in the relationship because they stay in one way longer than they should thanks to Saturn but their naughtier side can't take it.

posted December 26, 2020 06:23 AM            

Moon square Mars and Jupiter, conjunct Uranus
Mars square Uranus
Mars is chart ruler and is retrograde in Virgo
Neptune square Sun, Saturn and widely Mercury
She has all planets retrograde minus Venus and Neptune.
Skipped steps with Moon and Uranus.

posted December 26, 2020 11:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
men with a Venus-Neptune hard aspect in their natal, and men with a Mars - Uranus hard aspect - i havent met one that hasnt cheated.
If you know of a man with the aformentioned aspects who is not a cheater, please let me know because at this point I am getting very biased and whenever i see it in a man's chart i am like "i know what you are doing, dudums" tz, tz,tz

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posted December 26, 2020 11:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
When Moon-Venus-Mars are in difficult aspects with each other. The person's emotional needs do not match their tastes and/or their sexual desires.

Moon/Venus in Cap or in hard aspect to Saturn when compared with naughtier Moon/Venus/Mars placements will probably cheat later in the relationship because they stay in one way longer than they should thanks to Saturn but their naughtier side can't take it.

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🤔 i have a t-square between all of them on my ascendant/descendant/ic/midheaven and mars loosely conjuncts neptune

i'm not a cheater though, if i'm with someone and i feel like something would be lacking if it was just me and them im honest and say i'd date them and other people

i can be very committed though not necessarily monogamous, but i wouldn't rule out monogamy with the right person

but that's all feelings based

i won't have a relationship though if i can't honestly say that to someone before it starts and they accept what i can be to them fully 🤷‍♀️

that'd just be ****** up, i can give someone exactly as much as i say i can

by that i mean the general feeling i get from a connection

i always tell people exactly how it is because you can't actually have a relationship without that transparency

i have been the other person before though it's been incidental and i've never made the first move but it's not something i'm into

didn't always know in the first place

but long stories there, my initial point was i guess if i did things secretly i'd be a cheater but i've always been open and **** just sort of happens anyway

can't really plan for some ****

could be the uranus/mercury easy aspects to moon-venus/ascendant/descendant off setting that a bit

nodes are there too so 🤷‍♀️

posted December 26, 2020 12:45 PM            

i also find detached people somewhat soothing, so there's that, like people who are quiet and introspective and can be detached are very easy for me to get along with

i feel very comfortable with someone who can be a bit cold, i find it grounding provided they also have some of feeling there this is why i tend to like earth moons in western and people with water placements

i don't avoid relationships where all my needs are not met by a single person partially because i can either meet them myself or there's other people and sometimes there's things to learn from a specific person that warrant time spent and so on 🤷‍♀️

it's not something i care for but eh

i also prefer to be physically attracted to someone who im emotionally attracted to but it isnt necessary, i don't care

because other people exist to some degree and to another degree both these needs are preferences i can be happy with either for some period of time even if there isnt both but that doesnt mean that i'll ever actually stray away from any promises of commitment i made

posted December 26, 2020 07:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i have a cap mars i dont care for the conquest bit, have an aries moon too (and mars square venus)

i'm all for working on things when i have them, but i don't like the whole chasing after someone ********

if i have to chase i'm not interested why work hard for something i can get easily elsewhere?

i've never cheated either

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posted December 26, 2020 07:19 PM            

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Originally posted by efaki94:

Hello dumuzi
Does your moon have aspects to Uranus and neptune?
My bf has aries moon squaring neptune and uranus and I have read bad things for all these unfortunately.

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my moon is conjunct my descendant trine uranus (sag) and trine mercury in leo (they're both sextile my venus, my moon is opposite venus so it's part of a kite, and my moon/venus is also part of a t-square with my mars + i have south node conjunct venus/ascendant and north node conjunct moon/descendant)

my neptune is loosely conjunct my mars, sextile pluto, and trine my sun but that's it i think

mars loosely on my ic

my ex had aries moon square neptune and that was difficult to say the least lot of scorpio too though to make it more fun

i'm great though 😉

posted December 27, 2020 01:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
my moon is conjunct my descendant trine uranus (sag) and trine mercury in leo (they're both sextile my venus, my moon is opposite venus so it's part of a kite, and my moon/venus is also part of a t-square with my mars + i have south node conjunct venus/ascendant and north node conjunct moon/descendant)

my neptune is loosely conjunct my mars, sextile pluto, and trine my sun but that's it i think

mars loosely on my ic

my ex had aries moon square neptune and that was difficult to say the least lot of scorpio too though to make it more fun

i'm great though 😉

edit: if this is all written stupid my bad, i've been smoking weed for days

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posted December 27, 2020 05:06 PM            

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Originally posted by efaki94:

Hahaha
It's okay
I think I got the point
Just asking because aries moon is said to be the most unfaithful but I'm happy to hear one expectation
Haha

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the only exception? damn that'd be a lot of pressure 😁 but it's not really that simple as just one placement being everything

that's very broad you know? also i have a while to go never know what you might do right? 🤣 i don't want to rule it out 100% and be someone's example, it's unlike me though

ive had opportunities i didn't have to look for and have turned them down while in a relationship just on the foundation that the situation had not been openly discussed

i'm not necessarily monogamous, but i could manage it for a long time even with the wrong person

posted December 27, 2020 05:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
the only exception? damn that'd be a lot of pressure 😁 but it's not really that simple as just one placement being everything

that's very broad you know? also i have a while to go never know what you might do right? 🤣 i don't want to rule it out 100% and be someone's example, it's unlike me though

ive had opportunities i didn't have to look for and have turned them down while in a relationship just on the foundation that the situation had not been openly discussed

i'm not necessarily monogamous, but i could manage it for a long time even with the wrong person

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alot of pressure i know
hahaha
i dont know why but if you make some searches they say its the most unfaithful moon
but you r right one placement doesnt make u cheater
i just wanted to hear from somebody with this moon
that he can be monogamus too.
haha
sorry if its sounds silly.