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Topic: what would show in a chart of a cheater
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lumičre-gitan
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posted December 16, 2020 02:04 PM
  
bad title up there. not cheaterwants romantic with the unobtainable What will show in a chart of somebody who wants to be with the ones who are not attainable? anybody not single. not only women. can a chart show somebody who likes already committed people. IP: Logged |
MMarie
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posted December 16, 2020 02:29 PM
I think Venus in the 12th is capable of this or possibly Pisces Venus. Venus in the 12th could attract affairs/ hidden love due to the nature of the 12th house being “hidden”. Maybe even Aqua or Gem Venus but for other reasons. I’d love to hear others thoughts on this as well! IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted December 16, 2020 02:34 PM
I have cheated. If this is Venus’ fault, I have a Cancer Venus 11 square Uranus. My husband has a Pisces Venus 12H op. Pluto. Never cheated. IP: Logged |
Sauerkraut
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posted December 16, 2020 02:46 PM
maybe an unevolved aries venus for love of the chaseIP: Logged |
MMarie
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posted December 16, 2020 02:48 PM
I have Venus in the 12th conjunct ASC. and while I don’t think I’m capable of cheating and hate cheaters, I have been attracted to people who already are committed probably due to self esteem issues or not feeling good enough to be in a real relationship. IP: Logged |
vansio
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posted December 16, 2020 03:05 PM
interesting questionIP: Logged |
lumičre-gitan
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posted December 16, 2020 03:17 PM
thanks everybody. venus in 12 gets most votes then.
there are those people who always want what is taken and they find it a conquest maybe? is that venus and mars maybe?
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MMarie
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posted December 16, 2020 03:20 PM
The conquest aspect is more so Aries, Scorpio or Capricorn Venus/Mars I would think. IP: Logged |
Sauerkraut
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posted December 16, 2020 11:14 PM
hmm on second thought, not sure what you are asking exactly? someone who wants what is taken is technically not a cheater..a handful of people in question that i no longer associate with for various and obvious reasons: - guy with aries venus in 3rd (sag mars 12th) who “stole” his current fiance from her long term bf. he told me the story in a very conquest-ish way. although he is faithful in action, he has many crushes and finds it a conquest for any of them to like him back
- guy with scorpio venus in 7th (libra mars 6th) who cheated on all his girlfriends with new girls, exes, married girls.. it didnt matter to him, no barriers could stop him and actually excited him. a serial “monogamist” with serial affairs
- girl with leo venus (cancer mars) who loved flirting inappropriately with guys who were taken. she would meet up with them “innocently” and publicly praised their relationships, however she would make snide remarks about their wives or girlfriends to me. she is also a serial “monogamist” who isnt exactly loyal. it seem like she strayed when not getting the attention but still talked about how great her relationship was
- guy with leo venus (virgo mars) who was/is in a good loving marriage and constantly tried to hit on me behind his wifes back. both him and his wife were loved by many close to them who thought they were the epitome of a great marriage. it got very awkward for me as i was cool with the wife. i removed myself from them and that whole circle of friends
- guy with virgo venus (libra mars) who cheated on his girlfriends with exes whenever the current one was on the outs
- guy with capricorn venus (aquarius mars) who married his long term girlfriend expressed to me that humans arent meant to belong to one person, although his wife doesnt need to know this i guess the pattern here is that cheaters gonna cheat, conquesters gonna conquest, people gonna people? the actual cheaters on my list all have venus and mars in adjacent signs but i dont think thats a thing and is also only true for my small bit of data.. i have aries venus in 5th square cancer mars in 8th. when i was younger (late teens/early 20s), you could say i liked conquests. i didnt particularly care for the person afterwards and whether they were taken or not didnt matter. that didnt necessarily excite me and actually appalled me mostly. i hated disloyal liars. i just didnt care because it had nothing to do with me - feed my sad sad ego > my hypocritical idealistic spout. fortunately i became more conscious of these ways and realized that was not cool at all. i have always been loyal in relationships though, even when they were casual.
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ChildofVenus
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posted December 17, 2020 12:47 AM
I don’t know why people always think Venus in Pisces are cheaters. Also Venus in the 12th house could have hidden love affairs. But it could also be that they like to keep their relationships secret. I think I like men with Venus in the 12th house because I’m Venus in Pisces.IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted December 17, 2020 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by MMarie:
The conquest aspect is more so Aries, Scorpio or Capricorn Venus/Mars I would think.
So Scorpio and Capricorn Mars men only want the conquest but not a relationship? IP: Logged |
MMarie
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posted December 17, 2020 01:50 AM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
So Scorpio and Capricorn Mars men only want the conquest but not a relationship?
No I didn’t say only - I just think that conquest could be an aspect or more appealing to Aries, Scorp, Cap Venus/Mars placements for various reasons. I was saying it as opposed to Venus in 12th where I see as more passive and illusive, IMO not really the chasing type. Any Venus/Mars sign at the end of the day could be a cheater, like conquest etc. I was listing the ones I thought might be more prone to like unavailable people. IP: Logged |
lumičre-gitan
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posted December 17, 2020 02:22 AM
sauerkraut, i hadn't thought of the right word. i meant a boyfriend or girlfriend thief. a person who wants and takes what is already taken. those ladys who date married men and break families or long term relationships up. men sometimes do too. yes competitive but against what? if the one being cheated on does not know there is a competition?
could pluto have inclination for this? IP: Logged |
vansio
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posted December 17, 2020 04:42 AM
(from experience, of a woman's chart who shows traits of this) the asteroid Ixion is conjunct her Juno 0°, in ScorpioIP: Logged |
Somna7H
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posted December 17, 2020 05:40 AM
What about Mars and Venus on Asc ? Tight Mars Venus Aspects ? Are there any Good ?IP: Logged |
honeyloveee
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posted December 17, 2020 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by MMarie:
The conquest aspect is more so Aries, Scorpio or Capricorn Venus/Mars I would think.
I have venus in aries and never cheated. But can you ecplain the other two? Scorpio is fixed and hates dishonesty and Capricorn is a slow earth sign. IP: Logged |
Travelman
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posted December 17, 2020 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by Sauerkraut:
maybe an unevolved aries venus for love of the chase
Well, in that case (unevolved), it could be any sign... IP: Logged |
hearttreasure
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posted December 17, 2020 07:09 AM
I've read Juno in Scorpio. Anyone has this and can tell? IP: Logged |
MMarie
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posted December 17, 2020 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by honeyloveee:
I have venus in aries and never cheated. But can you ecplain the other two? Scorpio is fixed and hates dishonesty and Capricorn is a slow earth sign.
Sorry this got out of context a bit, I’m not meaning these signs would cheat (or not) but are more interested in conquest in romance which could lead to liking unavailable people. I was answering more his first quote than the title of the forum. Mars rules Aries & Scorpio (traditionally) which could like the idea of fighting for what they want, competition, the idea of “wining”. I’d also possibly group Leo Venus/Mars in here. I’d say more so for Cap Mars (Mars is exalted in Cap) than Venus that they like also like winning and being the best but may do it in a more strategic reserved way. Caps don’t mind working hard for something they want. Again not about cheating but liking the idea of conquest. And I just want to add on a personal note that I know many Scorpio suns/moons who have cheated so I’m not sure how much they don’t like dishonesty. One I know did while his wife was pregnant and with clients/ people he worked with. Any sign is capable of cheating at the end of the day. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi
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posted December 17, 2020 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by MMarie:
Sorry this got out of context a bit, I’m not meaning these signs would cheat (or not) but are more interested in conquest in romance which could lead to liking unavailable people. I was answering more his first quote than the title of the forum. Mars rules Aries & Scorpio (traditionally) which could like the idea of fighting for what they want, competition, the idea of “wining”. I’d also possibly group Leo Venus/Mars in here. I’d say more so for Cap Mars (Mars is exalted in Cap) than Venus that they like also like winning and being the best but may do it in a more strategic reserved way. Caps don’t mind working hard for something they want. Again not about cheating but liking the idea of conquest. And I just want to add on a personal note that I know many Scorpio suns/moons who have cheated so I’m not sure how much they don’t like dishonesty. One I know did while his wife was pregnant and with clients/ people he worked with. Any sign is capable of cheating at the end of the day.
i have a cap mars i dont care for the conquest bit, have an aries moon too (and mars square venus) i'm all for working on things when i have them, but i don't like the whole chasing after someone ******** if i have to chase i'm not interested why work hard for something i can get easily elsewhere? i've never cheated either IP: Logged |
MMarie
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posted December 17, 2020 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i have a cap mars i dont care for the conquest bit, have an aries moon too (and mars square venus)i'm all for working on things when i have them, but i don't like the whole chasing after someone ******** if i have to chase i'm not interested why work hard for something i can get easily elsewhere? i've never cheated either
Haha how many times do I have to say it I wasn’t saying cheating more so liking the unattainable aspect. For example I said to begin with Venus in 12th (which I have myself) could like unattainable people for different reasons - low self esteem/not feeling love able (which I say because I think this is how my Venus in 12th manifests), unsure of preferences in romantic love, attracted to hidden love. Have I been attracted to someone who was unavailable? Yes. Would I ever act on it or cheat? No. Everyone’s different and experience things differently. That was just my opinion of attraction towards the unavailable with the knowledge I have. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi
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posted December 17, 2020 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by MMarie:
Haha how many times do I have to say it I wasn’t saying cheating more so liking the unattainable aspect. For example I said to begin with Venus in 12th (which I have myself) could like unattainable people for different reasons - low self esteem/not feeling love able (which I say because I think this is how my Venus in 12th manifests), unsure of preferences in romantic love, attracted to hidden love. Have I been attracted to someone who was unavailable? Yes. Would I ever act on it or cheat? No. Everyone’s different and experience things differently. That was just my opinion of attraction towards the unavailable with the knowledge I have.
say it at least 3 more times so it really sinks in please 🥺 IP: Logged |
MMarie
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posted December 17, 2020 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
say it at least 3 more times so it really sinks in please 🥺
🤣🤣🤣😅
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MMarie
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posted December 17, 2020 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
say it at least 3 more times so it really sinks in please 🥺
I shouldn’t comment on these cheating threads anymore...you can get yourself into some real trouble hahaha IP: Logged |
Dumuzi
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posted December 17, 2020 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by MMarie:
I shouldn’t comment on these cheating threads anymore...you can get yourself into some real trouble hahaha
with who? we cool 🤷♀️ IP: Logged |
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