posted May 12, 2021 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:

Look at you high jacking someone else thread, needed more attention your way did you.

Shouldnt you be on tinder having deep and meaningful relationships with both men and women so you can go back and brag about it with your fiancee. If only you just did that bit of extra herion back in the day we'd all be at peace bahahaha.

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posted May 12, 2021 06:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
call me a ***** too, probably will get *'d out starts with a w ends with an e

but do it on vocaroo and say it with some feeling so i can hear it 🥺

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posted May 12, 2021 06:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
@teasel

there's a distinct lack of self awareness here, but it's part of the show, it's all good 😁 how you been? tooth any better?

edit: yeah you've been careful about that i appreciate it, it's cool now no worries about slipping up

some stuff has changed in other circles so i really don't care now 🤷‍♀️ all out in the open just everywhere, easier like this

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posted May 12, 2021 06:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
call me a ***** too, probably will get *'d out starts with a w ends with an e

but do it on vocaroo and say it with some feeling so i can hear it 🥺

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posted May 12, 2021 06:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
make it something like "you're a dirty little ***** " and then tell me how bad i am and how i need to be punished 🥵

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posted May 12, 2021 06:16 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
No, but it isn't worse, so that's good. I do need to make a dentist's appointment, my stimulus money is here. It's just that it's gone so long since I've needed to get (now two) teeth seen to, that I'm feeling like Mr. T, in the A-Team, when he had to be put out in order to deal with flying. My anxiety is going to be through the roof.

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it'll be ok, have you ever tried lemon balm (sweet melissa)? it can help a lot with anxiety some lemon balm tea and then cover yourself in lavender oil or something

i'm not a huge fan of going to places like that either but half my anxiety is related to the ceiling tiles and the overwhelming urge to count and recount them over and over again lol

glad it isn't worse at least and that you can get it taken care of

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posted May 12, 2021 09:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have really bad anxiety, too

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you should try lemon balm too, it's also pretty decent with pain relief (especially if the pain is a result of stress) i feel like i'm always pushing it on people lol but it's a great herb

smells great too, and if you garden it grows really easily and spreads on its own like mint does

posted May 12, 2021 11:24 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
lol I thought this thread was going off the rails because everyone was telling OP she's insane for thinking she's gonna be "forever alone" when she's a Gen Z-er under 25

Come on now girls can't we all just get along?

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too early to blame mercury retrograde's shadow period? 🤔😁

i think in soulofabird's case there's some conflict between her pisces placements (venus and mercury in particular) and her aquarius placements that are causing some of the internal conflict she's feeling

it'll all work out though 🤷‍♀️ her nodes make it pretty clear that partnership is something she'll experience as a big part of her life, and intimacy isn't the same as traditional ideas of commitment (which if i'm not mistaken it seems like that's what she's really hoping for, intimacy and something deep, which doesn't have to be traditional) on top of synastry making a big difference

no doubt she can find someone who she can meet with halfway

i think the stuff about her needing to embrace the independent side of herself that she's coming across is just there to let her know she may be the type who needs strong boundaries and to find someone understanding/complimentary and she could make someone happy because there are people who do want someone like her (people who would prefer it even)

but it's the sort of thing she needs to see happen to feel secure about probably

as for the getting along stuff personality conflicts will always happen one way or another, impossible to avoid altogether

got no ill will on my end personally though

@orange

posted May 13, 2021 06:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
too early to blame mercury retrograde's shadow period? 🤔😁

i think in soulofabird's case there's some conflict between her pisces placements (venus and mercury in particular) and her aquarius placements that are causing some of the internal conflict she's feeling

it'll all work out though 🤷‍♀️ her nodes make it pretty clear that partnership is something she'll experience as a big part of her life, and intimacy isn't the same as traditional ideas of commitment (which if i'm not mistaken it seems like that's what she's really hoping for, intimacy and something deep, which doesn't have to be traditional) on top of synastry making a big difference

no doubt she can find someone who she can meet with halfway

i think the stuff about her needing to embrace the independent side of herself that she's coming across is just there to let her know she may be the type who needs strong boundaries and to find someone understanding/complimentary and she could make someone happy because there are people who do want someone like her (people who would prefer it even)

but it's the sort of thing she needs to see happen to feel secure about probably

as for the getting along stuff personality conflicts will always happen one way or another, impossible to avoid altogether

got no ill will on my end personally though

@orange

sounds kinky 🥵 a ball gag wouldn't stop me from typing though so it wouldn't do much here

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Yes! That is what Im looking for is intimacy and strong connection. I dont know why in my mind I was associating that with traditional and dependent. I definitely dont feel like I have to get married or have kids, I mean I think that would be nice, but not #1 priority, so I suppose in that way Im not traditional. I wouldn't mind getting married though and I think Id want to, but I feel like Im pretty adaptable that say if I was with someone who didn't want to get married then it would be okay. I just ultimately want something romantic and deep.

What worried me too was the whole me needing freedom part. I come across that a lot and I dont feel like I need "freedom" per se, but I think meaning more so I like my alone time. I am introverted and used to spending a lot of time by myself, so maybe that's what they are referring to?

Could unconventional be possibly referring to interracial relationships? Because if that's the case I can see that too. I tend to prefer guys not my own ethnicity.

posted May 13, 2021 06:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
@SoulOfABird

Where in your chart is showing a lack of commitment? I don’t see it... and I don’t agree with Aquarius being uncommitted. I know many in committed relationships. They just need a lot of independence and emotional space which means they don’t like people exercising too much control or get emo-drama with them all the time. What you need is someone who understands you and give you that; someone who is willing to be adventurous with you. And don’t forget your loving, dreamy Pisces stellium. Your 7L in the 1H means your partner will come to you, so just wait.

Also your NN in 7H (I’ve the same placement). I’ll be frank that it’s a difficult placement as it shows your desire for partnership but at the same time finds it hard to achieve as you can either give too much or too little and you can have high expectations of your partner (according to Vedic interpretation), so love life can be turbulent. However, this placement is not a death sentence as it stabilises as we get older. NN in 7H is indicating lessons in partnerships, how we cooperate with others especially in a love relationship where emotions usually run high and you’ve to accept that your partner is not perfect.

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Thank you Hikaru! Your replies are always comforting for some reason lol you're very kind

I am glad finally someone recognized my Pisces placements lol I feel like people always tunnel vision on my Aquarius moon etc and often it's interpreted by people that Id be detached or need freedom.

It's odd, maybe I dont know myself very well, but I don't see myself needing freedom. I guess if you consider my dreams of going overseas in a whole new country, some may call me free spirited for that. Especially since I have to leave may family behind. I done feel like Ive ever had a problem with rules or being bounded with relationships. Even with moon conjunct Uranus in aqua I have a close relationship with my grandma who is my maternal figure basically, and I hate leaving her behind but somehow I feel like Id be more "at home" abroad in another culture oddly! Im not leaving my home because I need to be away from her, but because she can't come with me.

But I dont know Im kind of confused how people define someone who needs freedom haha I do have to learn to be independent if I want to reach my goals so that's another thing. But Im not afraid of commitment I just take time opening up

posted May 13, 2021 06:50 AM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
lol I thought this thread was going off the rails because everyone was telling OP she's insane for thinking she's gonna be "forever alone" when she's a Gen Z-er under 25

Come on now girls can't we all just get along?

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posted May 13, 2021 06:55 AM            

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Originally posted by TaurusVenusGirl:
I don't know why I cannot commit. My mother always told me that getting married and having children was the biggest mistake of her life. Guess she was always sending me a warning. Even if she wasn't, those words have stuck with me. Perhaps she always wanted me to be alone with her evil ways.

If I'd have had a child when I wanted to, I'd be a single mother and misrable, suffering trying to make ends meet. Glad I'm not in that situation.

Many marriages are very unhappy. It's a tough trott. Most are complaining about their spouse.

At work recently, all the young ones in their 20s and 30s were just sitting around complaining about their relationship problems. Then they just looked at me and see how happy I am and were saying it's not fair that I'm happy and single. I was bragging about how awesome my happy single life is.

So much so, one of them came to work the next day saying she wants a divorce as I sold her on the single life .

I work with what life gives me. I focus on the things that I can change. I don't think anyone can change their relationship status from single into a relationship whenever a person wants.

People fall in and out of love frequently. I think real love is rare.

Most people say they generally fall in love unexpectedly but if I ever had any kind of romantic feeling toward a man ever again, I'd tell him to fu ck off in an instant. I know what as s holes they really are. And it's highly unlikely a man would ever really treat me well. A lot of women put up with a man's sh it, I am not one of those women!

Each to their own though. I'll never commit to a man. Why tf should I, as most men are liars and cheaters.

I sleep peacefully every night knowing I'll never have my heart broken again, and that's probably what makes it so so easy to never commit to a man.

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posted May 13, 2021 07:46 AM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Yes! That is what Im looking for is intimacy and strong connection. I dont know why in my mind I was associating that with traditional and dependent. I definitely dont feel like I have to get married or have kids, I mean I think that would be nice, but not #1 priority, so I suppose in that way Im not traditional. I wouldn't mind getting married though and I think Id want to, but I feel like Im pretty adaptable that say if I was with someone who didn't want to get married then it would be okay. I just ultimately want something romantic and deep.

What worried me too was the whole me needing freedom part. I come across that a lot and I dont feel like I need "freedom" per se, but I think meaning more so I like my alone time. I am introverted and used to spending a lot of time by myself, so maybe that's what they are referring to?

Could unconventional be possibly referring to interracial relationships? Because if that's the case I can see that too. I tend to prefer guys not my own ethnicity.

For the record I would say Im a pretty loyal gal. I can like the same guy for several years even without them noticing my exist haha

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i think it's pretty ingrained in us to associate the two just because of traditional values, so that can cause that sortof subconscious mentality that intimacy is dictated by those things even if on another level we can recognize that it isn't

i think with the freedom part it's just the sort of thing you have to take into consideration when you're finding someone, but i don't see it as a big deal in the sense they literally no one is compatible with everyone and all different kinds of people are looking to connect (though my own personal views on fate mean i think we cross paths with people who play major roles in our lives simply because we're meant to and those connections are all pre-existing even before we know these people)

you're good enough for someone, you're what someone else wants, and there are guys who will appreciate that you're that way but the feelings and intimacy can still be there

the alone time could definitely translate into that i think because people who need that have to detach at times to get it and if they need a lot of it then it's a frequent thing

this is acceptable to some people though, i personally am fine with people like that and can prefer it, what matters more is the quality of the time spent together and how far people are mutually letting each other in

it's all a matter of balance

i genuinely think you'll be fine because it's just part of your chart anyway that finding that balance is a part of this life, you may find some people along the way where it doesn't work out but those learning experiences are valuable too

i think some people find that unconventional, i don't personally but i'm latina/italian (pretty much entirely european ancestry but eh... still) so mixed by default to a degree hard for me to see it as a thing but it is to other people

depends on things culturally i think with that, i meant it in terms of just a nontraditional marriage or living arrangement etc because people can find all kinds of things that work for the individuals involved

i also was unsure of how your need for freedom played out, in an introverted alone time sense it's still fitting but not the same as someone who needs lots of space and is project oriented or has to travel etc

i don't see a need for freedom as a lack of loyalty so that doesn't surprise me, but that's always a good quality to have

the longterm crush thing is something i can't really relate to but find very cute when people are like that, i've seen it a lot with water venus in particular

i really think you'll be ok, i genuinely think it's just a reminder that you emotionally need firm boundaries which can sometimes conflict with the piscean tendency to merge/dissolve rather than some "forever alone" message

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posted May 13, 2021 10:30 AM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:
Thank you Hikaru! Your replies are always comforting for some reason lol you're very kind

I am glad finally someone recognized my Pisces placements lol I feel like people always tunnel vision on my Aquarius moon etc and often it's interpreted by people that Id be detached or need freedom.

It's odd, maybe I dont know myself very well, but I don't see myself needing freedom. I guess if you consider my dreams of going overseas in a whole new country, some may call me free spirited for that. Especially since I have to leave may family behind. I done feel like Ive ever had a problem with rules or being bounded with relationships. Even with moon conjunct Uranus in aqua I have a close relationship with my grandma who is my maternal figure basically, and I hate leaving her behind but somehow I feel like Id be more "at home" abroad in another culture oddly! Im not leaving my home because I need to be away from her, but because she can't come with me.

But I dont know Im kind of confused how people define someone who needs freedom haha I do have to learn to be independent if I want to reach my goals so that's another thing. But Im not afraid of commitment I just take time opening up

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I think some may interpret needing freedom as something like a wild horse, cannot stay in relationships? But I’ve a different take. I love my freedom too. I hate it if my partner tries to dictate what I can/cannot do, how I think, where I can go, who I go out with etc. If they try to do that they’ll suddenly see a very rebellious side of me. I want marriage and kids yet I’m afraid to be tied at home and not be able to go out or have my own time. This is mainly out of fear based on what I saw happened to others, but later I realised it’s a personal choice as some chose to be helicopter parents. Anyway it’s because of this fear that I didn’t think of wanting a family when I was in my 20s as I felt that I wasn’t ready to give up my freedom, haha. I think I only started thinking of having a family in my 30s. Does wanting freedom make me a commitment phobe? Nope. I have always wanted long-term relationships and I can be totally faithful no matter what my Gemini Venus says. And if I’m in a relationship and have kids I’ll definitely give them priority, just that I’ll need my space too.

I don’t have anything in Aqua other than my Sun-Moon mp but I’ve the same dream as you... to live in a foreign country. It satisfies my adventurous spirit. Our NN in 7H will incline us to foreign cultures and partners so it’s not a coincidence that my boyfriend is a foreigner. NN in 7H may also lead you into relationships that go against convention or even sudden marriage. What is “convention” will depend on your culture.

posted May 13, 2021 07:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Chart wise, you tend to see too much from your own perspective. It is hard to shift into the perspective of other people and see they are afraid, they are vulnerable, they need to be loved. With the house placement, people have a hard time seeing this kind of thing in others and it makes social things harder

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Where do you see this in my chart? Is it because my Aqua moon? I see you tend to have this bias that you often have against Aqua moons, and I guess a lot of people have for some reason.
I dont feel like it's hard to see from others perspective. I think I can put myself into others shoes quite well.
I can watch movies and I cry often watching them. I am able to feel from their view so I dont see how I am only able to see from my own perspective?

posted May 13, 2021 07:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I think some may interpret needing freedom as something like a wild horse, cannot stay in relationships? But I’ve a different take. I love my freedom too. I hate it if my partner tries to dictate what I can/cannot do, how I think, where I can go, who I go out with etc. If they try to do that they’ll suddenly see a very rebellious side of me. I want marriage and kids yet I’m afraid to be tied at home and not be able to go out or have my own time. This is mainly out of fear based on what I saw happened to others, but later I realised it’s a personal choice as some chose to be helicopter parents. Anyway it’s because of this fear that I didn’t think of wanting a family when I was in my 20s as I felt that I wasn’t ready to give up my freedom, haha. I think I only started thinking of having a family in my 30s. Does wanting freedom make me a commitment phobe? Nope. I have always wanted long-term relationships and I can be totally faithful no matter what my Gemini Venus says. And if I’m in a relationship and have kids I’ll definitely give them priority, just that I’ll need my space too.

I don’t have anything in Aqua other than my Sun-Moon mp but I’ve the same dream as you... to live in a foreign country. It satisfies my adventurous spirit. Our NN in 7H will incline us to foreign cultures and partners so it’s not a coincidence that my boyfriend is a foreigner. NN in 7H may also lead you into relationships that go against convention or even sudden marriage. What is “convention” will depend on your culture.

You’re still in your 20s? With NN in 7H I would say don’t be in a hurry to settle down. Most times people with this placement needs to learn what they need and what they can offer in a relationship before they can find a truly satisfying one.

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Ah you can relate then! I agree with what you said about not liking to be tied at home. It's true for me too, there are times I start feeling sad just staying at home. I have to get fresh air, go to a coffee shop or something! lol and it doesn't have to be some crazy out there thing, just going for a walk in nature or going out to eat is something I like doing. Going different places now and then. I dont believe I can be a stay at home housewife! I love being home and I spend a lot of time there, but like you I think I just don't want to spend everyday the same thing over and over. I like to spice it up in subtle ways here and there.
I definitely did imagine like a wild horse not wanting to settle down haha
I find it hard to describe it's like being a homebody but adventurous at the same time is that even possible? lol

I agree about not rushing into a relationship, your right I feel as I get older the more mature I get and more prepared for a relationship I am. That's why Ive stayed single, I don't like a relationship that is shallow. My friends used to date in high school, even to guys that they weren't crazy about they dated for fun. That's okay, but for me I dont like it. I want something strong and serious, and I used to feel bad being such a late bloomer but now Im grateful for it. I will date when I feel I am mentally healthier and in the right place, because I dont want to be a taker in the relationship I want to give my all and the best parts of myself. I dont want to enter a relationship broken looking for completion in another, I cant give my all then and it won't be healthy. So when I feel better then will I be ready for a relationship. I also feel I know more what traits I like in a guy so maturity is important!

posted May 13, 2021 07:25 PM            

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i think it's pretty ingrained in us to associate the two just because of traditional values, so that can cause that sortof subconscious mentality that intimacy is dictated by those things even if on another level we can recognize that it isn't

i think with the freedom part it's just the sort of thing you have to take into consideration when you're finding someone, but i don't see it as a big deal in the sense they literally no one is compatible with everyone and all different kinds of people are looking to connect (though my own personal views on fate mean i think we cross paths with people who play major roles in our lives simply because we're meant to and those connections are all pre-existing even before we know these people)

you're good enough for someone, you're what someone else wants, and there are guys who will appreciate that you're that way but the feelings and intimacy can still be there

the alone time could definitely translate into that i think because people who need that have to detach at times to get it and if they need a lot of it then it's a frequent thing

this is acceptable to some people though, i personally am fine with people like that and can prefer it, what matters more is the quality of the time spent together and how far people are mutually letting each other in

it's all a matter of balance

i genuinely think you'll be fine because it's just part of your chart anyway that finding that balance is a part of this life, you may find some people along the way where it doesn't work out but those learning experiences are valuable too

i think some people find that unconventional, i don't personally but i'm latina/italian (pretty much entirely european ancestry but eh... still) so mixed by default to a degree hard for me to see it as a thing but it is to other people

depends on things culturally i think with that, i meant it in terms of just a nontraditional marriage or living arrangement etc because people can find all kinds of things that work for the individuals involved

i also was unsure of how your need for freedom played out, in an introverted alone time sense it's still fitting but not the same as someone who needs lots of space and is project oriented or has to travel etc

i don't see a need for freedom as a lack of loyalty so that doesn't surprise me, but that's always a good quality to have

the longterm crush thing is something i can't really relate to but find very cute when people are like that, i've seen it a lot with water venus in particular

i really think you'll be ok, i genuinely think it's just a reminder that you emotionally need firm boundaries which can sometimes conflict with the piscean tendency to merge/dissolve rather than some "forever alone" message

there's nothing wrong with you or your chart that will keep you from love and intimacy, it's all just fears snd insecurities you have to deal with and move away from

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Thank you so much for this! This gave me some relief haha I tend to worry too much about things. Especially if they are important to me I get let down and Im like oh no my life is over! Dramatic much I know haha

posted May 13, 2021 08:27 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOfABird:

Thank you so much for this! This gave me some relief haha I tend to worry too much about things. Especially if they are important to me I get let down and Im like oh no my life is over! Dramatic much I know haha

I currently like this guy who has Scorpio venus and a lot of other very intense placements and I was like oh no what if were not a good match? 🤦🏻‍♀️ But you're right thats probably why synastry is important!

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you're welcome, i understand worrying too much pretty well that's why i spent years of my life working on learning how to clear my head

i get disappointments cutting that deep too, though in my case i've been through so much **** that it's become pretty hard to look forward to things so i don't tend to get my hopes up at all

can't be disappointed when you don't expect or want anything you know? probably not the best outlook but 🤷‍♀️ i leave room for the idea that life can surprise me with something good at any point, afterall flip a 2 sided coin enough times even if you get heads 10x in a row you're bound to get tails eventually right?

it's ok to be sensitive like that as long as you bounce back from it i think, to fully feel something like that isn't all bad

synastry is one part of the equation the other part is how the individuals handle the energy and so on, i really just think if something is meant to be it will be and if it doesn't last forever that's ok too you can still learn and grow and experience

sometimes things can be life changing and deep, but only meant to be brief, this doesn't make them any less meaningful or worthwhile

longevity isn't the sole indicator of success or value, plenty of people tie themselves to something that makes them unhappy because of that idea

i have north node conjunct descendant myself (moon too) and my first relationship was very long right out of high school (open though) and i learned a lot, but at a very high price i wouldn't recommend

now i'm doing the alone reevaluate thing, because i know someone else will be in my life to learn from at another point and i'd like to learn some better lessons

as far as this guy goes... you have some strong water placements and i imagine that might help

keep in mind too that every placement and aspect can show up in a variety of ways, it's like drug side effects not everyone will experience the same ones

get to know him and let life run it's course, all the thinking ahead in the world won't change how things play out anyway

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Originally posted by Orange:
Sure, we can all get along of course. Someone please make sure Dumbduzi is tied up to a small chair and ball gagged.
Thats peace!
Dumuzi, two blinks is a yes, one blink is a no.
Kumbaya everyone.

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