posted August 05, 2021 08:42 PM            

I am a Scorpio Moon in conjunction with Pluto.

The Moon is our intimate place.

Every Scorpio Ascendant I have ever met seems to be able to read me. It is so awkward. I hate it. I hate it.
Starting with my adoptive father, who has a Scorpio Ascendant .... It's so awkward. Always looking at me and reading me.

I've met 4 more Scorpio Ascendants, and it's always the same story. It is so awkward. I hate that these people look at me.

This only happens to me with Scorpio Ascendants, as they simply have the Scorpio mask but are not Scorpio.

This has never happened to me with the Scorpio Suns. Because Scorpio suns ARE SCORPIO, and it doesn't bother me at all that they can read me. Since we share absolutely the same energy, And only real Scorpios know the hell we have to deal with, and everything we have to do to just survive.

But the Scorpio Ascendants, they are not Scorpios, they are only a mask but they have the ability to read me. And it is uncomfortable.

posted August 05, 2021 09:11 PM            

Do you consider those of us who have Pluto in the 1st to be Scorpios? Do you hate it when we read you?

posted August 05, 2021 09:33 PM            

Ok then.

posted August 05, 2021 10:26 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
if you saw yourself as the beautiful soul you are maybe they wouldn't bother you but you don't want them to see through you.

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posted August 05, 2021 11:34 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Damn what don't you hate

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posted August 05, 2021 11:41 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
No, your ascendant is a lot more than a mask, is a huge part of who you are, your chart ruler is determined by your ascendant, think about that: your chart ruler is determined by your ascendant.

My best friend from high school had a Scorpio rising and my last lover who is now dead also had Scorpio rising, I love reading others with them, with him we talked a lot about psychology and I loved that.

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An important part, yes. Who are you. No. The Sun is what we are, our life force, our Spirit. The Ascendant is small compared to that.
I can see the difference right away between a Scorpio Sun and a Scorpio Ascendant.
With Scorpio Suns it's like "okay, read me, I don't care. We're in the same boat."
With Scorpio Ascendants it's like "impostor, you look like it, but you're not, stop reading me, I don't trust you."

posted August 06, 2021 12:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
I do feel uncomfortable when people trying to read me. I have Scorpio stellium and 1st Pluto. I’m partly mystery for myself. And I think it’s hilariously delusional when people think they can read me. I could be different. And they end up disliking and distrusting me because I could prove their reading to be wrong all the time. I think what Scorpio placement they have doesn’t matter.

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Well, I’ve thought this about everyone who makes assumptions about people - thinking they know things, when they don’t. Honestly, the same could be said of the OP, assuming that people are reading her.

We all have times when we look around, and take things in. We also all have our times when we couldn’t care less, about who or what other people may be. That isn’t a callous thing to say, it’s true. Like when I’m in a bookstore cafe: I’m not sitting there, studying people. I’m reading, or checking my phone.

posted August 06, 2021 12:42 AM            

I have randomly seen something or heard it but it was not atm registered as significant data. Yet later the recall floods forward (consciousness, replays it).

posted August 06, 2021 12:58 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
@teasel, yet there's another superpower Scorpio weilds. Not to be "actively" paying attention, yet recording things perceived
in the minds eye, ear - total sensory mind. Instant replay when their Spidey Sense Ques in.

I have randomly seen something or heard it but it was not atm registered as significant data. Yet later the recall floods forward (consciousness, replays it).

I have(trop) Jup there. Pluto is in Virgo so details are my mojo.

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posted August 06, 2021 01:14 AM            

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Originally posted by WhiteBirds:
An important part, yes. Who are you. No. The Sun is what we are, our life force, our Spirit. The Ascendant is small compared to that.
I can see the difference right away between a Scorpio Sun and a Scorpio Ascendant.
With Scorpio Suns it's like "okay, read me, I don't care. We're in the same boat."
With Scorpio Ascendants it's like "impostor, you look like it, but you're not, stop reading me, I don't trust you."

The most beautiful look they have given me was of two people with Scorpio Sun.
The most invasive, and uncomfortable, glances were from the Scorpio Ascendants.

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If your chart ruler is the Sun you would identity with your sun a lot! And you think you have Leo rising.

posted August 06, 2021 01:36 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
I mean the surroundings, background people.
Not necessarily the one's we actually in past interacted with. Like the interesting characters not watching always within our periphery. I can't explain it I guess.

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You and Teasel are having an interesting discussion!

posted August 06, 2021 02:24 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Some people say that’s what intuition really is. a collection of things we’ve taken in, but haven’t always registered.

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Hmmm, wish those some people would explain being given a random set up numbers that symbolically connect to a target that you don't know anything consciously about at all, and then using that random set of numbers to tune into the target, then pick up accurate and way beyond chance information about said target?

Nor is this just my experience. Every year, black op remote viewing programs in the US military and/or DIA would go up for review and get refunded, for almost 18 years straight. Military tends to be filled with pretty grounded and pragmatic type people. They wouldn't have kept refunding such programs if there wasn't something to it.

They also paid Robert A. Monroe some 30, 000 back in the 80's to train agents using Hemi-Sync and the Monroe Institute's particular techniques for exploring consciousness.

No, I'm pretty sure intuition is a lot more than that. Cayce also proved that in a pretty good percentage of his readings, and he was sometimes tested by doctors and other trained professionals. And not just those types, but the infamous fraudulent medium busting Houdini investigated Cayce, and Cayce was the only person he ever investigated in that arena who he didn't publicly denounce after.

Not only that, but later on, Houdini went on to try to make a movie centered around a love story based on reincarnation themes of all things, when he was a noted skeptic.

posted August 06, 2021 02:34 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Some people say that’s what intuition really is. a collection of things we’ve taken in, but haven’t always registered.

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Those same folks would likely also have a hard time explaining certain phenomenon observed in quantum physics. Such as quantum entanglement and how two quantum objects not connected by any known physical force or connection, can still interact and influence each other as if they were somehow connected, AND measurably at faster than light speeds (which until Quantum physics was discovered, and in the Einstein relativity days, was thought to be completely impossible).

It is the fundamental Oneness/interconnection of all, that both allows for psychism and quantum entanglement to exist and operate. And in the latter, it can be faster than light speed, because it is beyond physicality. Speed of light is purely an attribute of this physical dimension alone, but consciousness is more than this, and consciousness doesn't have to abide by physical rule sets since the physical comes from consciousness and not the other way around.

posted August 06, 2021 02:37 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
No, your ascendant is a lot more than a mask, is a huge part of who you are, your chart ruler is determined by your ascendant, think about that: your chart ruler is determined by your ascendant.

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posted August 06, 2021 04:07 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Well, I’ve thought this about everyone who makes assumptions about people - thinking they know things, when they don’t. Honestly, the same could be said of the OP, assuming that people are reading her.

We all have times when we look around, and take things in. We also all have our times when we couldn’t care less, about who or what other people may be. That isn’t a callous thing to say, it’s true. Like when I’m in a bookstore cafe: I’m not sitting there, studying people. I’m reading, or checking my phone.

I was amused earlier, but not so much now.

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I think there’s nothing wrong with reading people as long as you don’t make drastic conclusions and decisions for somebody you don’t know well based on it. I could read people also, but I give them the benefit of the doubt or sometimes ignore red flags for a while to protect my Neptunian clouds. And they often disappoint me.
I see how hardcore Scorpio people save themselves from many disappointments thinking they could know everything about people just observing them several times, but it’s kinda superficial.

Also, I believe some people could be read easier than the others, and many Scorpio don’t like people simply because they cannot read them.

I had a class when we needed to observe somebody in a public place and write a short story about it. Basically, it was stalking for learning or learning to stalk lol