posted September 10, 2021 03:19 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
@Aries23

When it comes to Leos I *always* reference The Lion King! They are either evil, jealous POS trash like Scar... or extraordinary, regal, loving kings like Mufasa. Leo Men who embody the latter are my TOTAL favorite to partner with.

I'll BRB with more shortly...

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I know what you mean. But usually I see this "regal" nature there when there is earth sign Tau or Cap(especially the latter) involved in the chart. Not Leo alone ime.

James Earl Jones (whom "Mufasa" is in essence fashioned after) has Asc,Sun, Moon,Merc and Sat in Cap. Mars is in Leo though 💁🏿‍♂️

I also see sir Anthony Hopkins as being able to play that role. He has Sun/Merc/ Asc in Cap. Always gave me "Daddy" vibes. Played lots of "Father" roles in his movies.

Cap/Sat always gives me "Father" vibes in the authoritative sense of the word. Giving the child rules and regulations. What to do and NOT to do etc.

Leo/Sun(when evolved) gives me "Father" vibes in the sense of "benevolent giver" i.e. bringing lots of goodies to the child and gifting the child with presents.

And Jupiter/Sag(when evolved) gives me the "Father" vibes in the sense of "Sage" or "wise counsellor" etc.Teaching the child morals/the life essence etc. Expanding the child's view of the world.

Its interesting that Gandolf "The Grey" was portrayed by Asc in Sag Sir Ian McKellan. That seemed to fit.

Sir Richard Harris( playing "Dumbledore" in the 1st Harry Potter) was also a 'Sage" charcter whom has Jup exalted in Cancer trine Sco Asc in Sco.He also has Moon in authoritative Cap( the "headmaster" vibes).

Sir Richard Harris also played Marcus Orelius in "Gladiator". A King who spent a lot of time reading philosophy and neglected his son(Joaquin Phoenix). Can you say "sage"?

posted September 10, 2021 03:54 AM            

Yeah I actually agree with you about Cap heavy men. That's why I was telling Galactic that I don't generally see them as feminine. They are just as regal & masculine as Leo in many ways. Hell, I actually went on a date with a Capricorn last night!

I generally see Earth Sign Men as very rugged yet refined gentlemen. The strong silent types. A reliable, sensual bunch.

posted September 10, 2021 04:16 AM            

Continuing on about man-boys earlier... Gemini can indeed fit the bill. They can be all over the damn place, noncommittal and thoughtless.

You know what I'm confused about though? I've known a couple of men who have Sun, Moon AND Venus in Gemini - yet they seem more grounded & loving (once you've earned their respect) than most other Geminis on average. Why is this? LOL

Same with men who have Aries Sun & Moon combo! As I said earlier, most Aries Men are too selfish & petty for my tastes. But something about the double/triple Aries is HOT and almost changes my mind. Marlon Brando had this!

posted September 10, 2021 02:04 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
If we're both talking about balance, then I agree LovelyAries.

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A man who knows how to lead, initiate & protect. That is also a loving, intuitive, respectful individual. He's a primarily masculine being who has integrated a healthy dose of feminine into his core.

posted September 10, 2021 02:17 PM              

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
A man who knows how to lead, initiate & protect. That is also a loving, intuitive, respectful individual. He's a primarily masculine being who has integrated a healthy dose of feminine into his core.

I'm clearly speaking about Balance here. A woman saying that she doesn't want to be with a doormat lines up with this.

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posted September 10, 2021 03:48 PM              

I put down a boundary in our open relationship a little while ago, NO MORE SEX WITH SEX ADDICTS, and said if that continues, I'm out. And she seems hell bent on breaking that with the latest guy who I can obviously tell from his pictures and chart is most likely a sex addict.

Scorpio Sun conjunct Scorpio Pluto, with Mars in 8th to the degree opposed Jupiter in Aries, and 5th House ruler conjunct that Mars in the 8th, and opposed Jupiter. I ain't f'ing stupid. But she thinks he is "reformed" (because she wants to believe that). However, he is poly/open and in my experience, most guys in that lifestyle are sex addicts--not all, but most (I'm a recovering sex addict, wasn't ever one in this life, but from my last life).

I pointed out to her that if he was truly reformed, then he would be like Russell Brand--he used to be a sex (and drug) addict, and when he realized that, he had to change his lifestyle radically. He is now married for awhile and monogamous. That is how a male sex addict would have to be/become in order to deal with something like that. You don't reform by giving in to it, just as an alcoholic can't be recovering if they keep on drinking whenever the impulse/desire arrives.

So I guess 20 years of a mostly happy and very close relationship is overshadowed by a likely fleeting romantic connection with a guy who is not good for her. Yep, have fun with that. (and like most of her previous connections, there is a Venus-Mars square which in her case has indicated sexual chemistry but lack of deeper, real compatibility).

posted September 10, 2021 04:54 PM            

One thing I have noticed is that most people that I am close to, those I really click with, tend to have something major in the mid parts of Aries. My mother's Moon, father's Sun, favorite grandmother's Sun/Mercury conjunction, best friend's Mars/Venus conjunction etc... It's a notable pattern.

posted September 10, 2021 05:38 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
@Aries23

Yeah I actually agree with you about Cap heavy men. That's why I was telling Galactic that I don't generally see them as feminine. They are just as regal & masculine as Leo in many ways. Hell, I actually went on a date with a Capricorn last night!

I generally see Earth Sign Men as very rugged yet refined gentlemen. The strong silent types. A reliable, sensual bunch.

You are also correct about evolved Sag. Most of the Sag Men I've known made me want to call them "daddy" and allow them to spank me after our deep conversations!

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Lol. I see Leo and Cap couple up a lot. Barrack and Michelle are an example of a famous one. But in that coupling ,Cap is low-key pulling the strings most of the time.

I like the rugged nature of the Earth sign males too. You are right. For me Tau takes the cake here and represents earth in its fundamental "i am here on earth" expression.

posted September 10, 2021 06:33 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
@Aries23

Continuing on about man-boys earlier... Gemini can indeed fit the bill. They can be all over the damn place, noncommittal and thoughtless.

You know what I'm confused about though? I've known a couple of men who have Sun, Moon AND Venus in Gemini - yet they seem more grounded & loving (once you've earned their respect) than most other Geminis on average. Why is this? LOL

Same with men who have Aries Sun & Moon combo! As I said earlier, most Aries Men are too selfish & petty for my tastes. But something about the double/triple Aries is HOT and almost changes my mind. Marlon Brando had this!

As for Cancer Men... I'm neutral about them and can go either way. If he's a passive-aggressive crybaby sitting deeply in his feminine - it's a NO. If he's loving & intuitive but also assertive, protective and primarily operating from his masculine - then it's a YES.

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Gemini actually DOES grow up but is able to keep the youthful nature. I don't know how they are able to "shake off" their more childish dispositions and "get with it". But they do it.

I think it could be the Mercurial nature that is about adaption and knowing when and where the cycle of life begins and evolves? I.e time to party, time to get serious etc.

I actually know of a Gem Sun/Moon/Ven who got married 2 years ago and is STILL the doting hubby to his man.

Out of all people that I assumed would marry, he was at the very bottom of the list. I really didn't see it coming-what with all the sexual escapades he has had.😄

I don't think Gem fears commitment per se. But its all about timing for them. Isn't Mercury about changing and moving with the times? I see this manifest in Virgo as a form of "scheduling". So why not with Gemini?💁🏿‍♂️

Aries is not afraid of commitment either. But it has to be on their terms. THEY have to be ready for it and choose it. Aries can be the 1st to marry actually. This way before Can or Cap.

Aries Moon for me can be the most spontaneous of them all. With Aries Moon, things tend to develop emotionally very QUICKLY. They don't waste time.

Marlon Brando had Ari sun/moon/mercury with Asc in Sag. I reckon he lived for himself. Great as a boyfriend. But I wouldn't bet on him as a husband.

Interestingly Paul Rudd has more Aries planets than Brando. And he comes off so sweet "boy next door". Sun/Mercury/Ven/Sat/ Chiron are in Aries.

It could be his Asc in Cancer that has him come across "sweet"? Neptune tightly trines the Asc too with MC is also Aries 🤔

Anyways, Cancer men are tricky ime. The moon/mars in Cancer ones especially give off the protective "mama bear" vibes. Cancer is one position that is very feminine in expression imo. In that it is very receptive and functions strongly on a passive level.

The men can be incredibly "macho" too. Some exhibiting the typical "toxic hyper- masculinity" traits that are considered "unevolved" socially.

I have actually seen more Cancer me be homophobic, prone to misogynistic behaviour and generally very "old school. A man is a man is a man" types of fellaz. More so than Caps tbh. The former tends to be more obsessed with societal roles of whom plays what role i.e men in the barn/garage/basement and women in the kitchen/garden or laundry type of mentality.

I find Cancer Sun Tom Cruise quite "macho". It could be that his Moon in Leo is exaggerating it? He also has Personality number 1-which is very self driven in essence and highlights his Leo Moon.

posted September 10, 2021 06:41 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
The reason why I may be leaving my relationship of 20 years is because I don't want to be a doormat--not even for my twin soul or any person.

I put down a boundary in our open relationship a little while ago, NO MORE SEX WITH SEX ADDICTS, and said if that continues, I'm out. And she seems hell bent on breaking that with the latest guy who I can obviously tell from his pictures and chart is most likely a sex addict.

Scorpio Sun conjunct Scorpio Pluto, with Mars in 8th to the degree opposed Jupiter in Aries, and 5th House ruler conjunct that Mars in the 8th, and opposed Jupiter. I ain't f'ing stupid. But she thinks he is "reformed" (because she wants to believe that). However, he is poly/open and in my experience, most guys in that lifestyle are sex addicts--not all, but most (I'm a recovering sex addict, wasn't ever one in this life, but from my last life).

I pointed out to her that if he was truly reformed, then he would be like Russell Brand--he used to be a sex (and drug) addict, and when he realized that, he had to change his lifestyle radically. He is now married for awhile and monogamous. That is how a male sex addict would have to be/become in order to deal with something like that. You don't reform by giving in to it, just as an alcoholic can't be recovering if they keep on drinking whenever the impulse/desire arrives.

So I guess 20 years of a mostly happy and very close relationship is overshadowed by a likely fleeting romantic connection with a guy who is not good for her. Yep, have fun with that. (and like most of her previous connections, there is a Venus-Mars square which in her case has indicated sexual chemistry but lack of deeper, real compatibility).

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Wow. Sorry to hear that. ❤❤

posted September 10, 2021 06:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Nadja:
I have my descendant at 6 degrees Aries, along with North Node at 9 degrees and Jupiter at 21 degrees, all in the 7th. Mars is in Cancer 9th, tightly conjunct Midheaven and Mercury.

One thing I have noticed is that most people that I am close to, those I really click with, tend to have something major in the mid parts of Aries. My mother's Moon, father's Sun, favorite grandmother's Sun/Mercury conjunction, best friend's Mars/Venus conjunction etc... It's a notable pattern.

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posted September 10, 2021 07:09 PM            

So you're in an open relationship that you don't truly want to be in? And you want to stop being a doormat about this?

posted September 10, 2021 07:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Lol. I see Leo and Cap couple up a lot. Barrack and Michelle are an example of a famous one. But in that coupling ,Cap is low-key pulling the strings most of the time.

I like the rugged nature of the Earth sign males too. You are right. For me Tau takes the cake here and represents earth in its fundamental "i am here on earth" expression.

As for Sag, when evolved and tied with grounded placements, Sag CAN be a wonderful teacher, counsel and confidant. And yes, the males can give off "Dzaddy" vibes🤣

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Oh hell yes about Taurus Men taking the "rugged cake" here. The Rock is the epitome of a masculine Taurean God!! And I put Jason Mamoa in his same category - just on the Leo side. One ruled by Venus, the other by the Sun - both appear to be strong leaders of their homes & their careers. Which I love.

Barack & Michelle are like the Ultimate Power Couple. BOTH have Alpha Energy... but it works out. Why? Because although Michelle is a powerful woman, she respects & values strength & power in a man as well. She isn't going out of her way to compete with or emasculate him! I guarantee you that. Barack feels loved & admired by Michelle and it shows.

Whereas you have a similar dynamic with Bill and Hillary Clinton but the *opposite* result. Being an unevolved Scorpio, I'm sure she's tried to control and belittle him; Him being unevolved Leo... he roars "f**k off woman" and goes on to have several affairs with ladies who make him feel powerful.

Same story, different day LOL

posted September 10, 2021 10:48 PM              

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Wow. Sorry to hear that. ❤❤

Is Saturn in Aqua transiting your 7th? I see this transit present in couples deciding to call it quits.🙏🏿

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Thank you Aries23Degrees. It just seems like a stupid waste to me, and over what, a guy/connection that likely will be relatively brief as most of the other ones have been (minus one guy).

Sort of, it was, but then retrograded too far past conjuncting the Desc for now. Meanwhile, T. Jupiter, ruler of my 5th and co-ruler of my 8th, is also in my 7th and retrograding back to conjunct N. Venus in 7th (Venus rules my 10th). On the bright side of things, I just got a pretty good new job. So if she decides to play chicken with me about this issue, I'll have enough saved up in a bit to move out.

posted September 10, 2021 11:16 PM              

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
@Galactic

So you're in an open relationship that you don't truly want to be in? And you want to stop being a doormat about this?

Let me know if I'm interpreting this correctly.

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A little more complex. We've had an open option for about 13 years now. I'm fine with her having sex with other guys generally. But earlier in the summer when she was traveling across Europe and Turkey, it dawned on me that she has a repeating pattern. Almost all the guys that she has gotten sexual with, have been sex addict types. Yet the nicer and faster vibratory guys that have shown interest in her, she passes over and friend zones.

I told her about my realization about this pattern, and told her that if she continues to have sex with guys that are like this, then I'm not interested in being with her. At first she denied she had this pattern (which made me very angry, because it was so obvious), but then she did finally admit that it is a pattern.

Then not long after these arguments, discussions, etc, she met a new guy, and he is clearly a repeat of the pattern. She rationalized to herself that if she takes it slower and develops a relationship with him, that it will be ok if she has sex with him. I said, no, that wasn't even part of my issue and boundary, but that he seems obviously to be a sex addict type and a continuance of that pattern. I don't care how long they date before they have sex etc, I just don't want her continuing this pattern anymore. She has now convinced herself that he is reformed, because he himself has admitted to issues around this area.

So I have stressed that if she does have sex with him, I'm done. She doesn't believe me, because I've always have been very tolerant, laid back and forgiving. I have Venus in Aquarius, and most of the time I act like it. But I have drawn the line here and it seems like she is planning on crossing it no matter how I feel and what I have said, it's all about, "but I really like him." I told her she needs to work on attracting faster vibratory men, and to specifically ask guidance/her Expanded self and the Creative Forces to send her such types of guys.

T. Pluto is conjoining her Asc currently. Because she won't deal with her shadow directly and consciously, she is attracting outside conditions and people that reflect it back to her. It's almost comical, but the last 3 guys have had Scorpio Sun (two of which who had the same birthday!). She is not normally into strong Scorpio, and previously wasn't involved with guys with strong Scorpio for the most part until this transit.

She has had countless dreams over the last couple years telling her in various different ways, "time to face and deal with your shadow", but its like she refuses (she is stubborn as all heck and a half). Its too uncomfortable for her, and so she distracts herself with outside things and people. Well, me leaving will be a very big wake up call and I hope it sparks some real self examination and self growth.

Because we are twin souls, no other relationship will fulfill her like ours does, not unless she meet another self from my Expanded self. Deep down she knows this. I don't know how many times she has gone on dates and been super disappointed with the guy or compared them to me where they fall short of me and/or our connection.

She has made boundaries for me in the past, such as not hitting on her friends, which I have respected after a couple of incidences many years ago. In fact, I've had had friends hit on me, and rebuffed them. I generally stay away the open thing anyways. It's been mostly a headache and full of either disappointment or emotional pain. I also don't seem to attract the faster vibratory people that I would prefer to, but seem to attract and/or be attracted to a lot of low level narcissistic types, types that tend to use and take, and don't give much in return, if at all. I'm tired of that, so I generally stay away, or end things as soon as I see too many red flags.

Thank you for asking, I appreciate it. I did need to vent some about this. I've been mostly holding it in most of the time.

posted September 11, 2021 01:33 AM            

Oh yeah Aries doesn't usually fear commitment. We just have to be SURE about you and the depth of our connection together. Same with Gemini. I was mostly talking about how surprisingly mature they can be with a tripple dose of Aries/Gemini compared to many others of their ilk. It's like the **purest form** of that sign's energy comes through and makes you want to cut them more slack than usual. It's interesting!

Great point about some Cancer Men. They (especially Suns) can be quite insecure and over-the-top at times. You mentioned Tom Cruise. But you know who I think of? 50 Cent! That dude is hyper-masculine but is overly sensitive and unneccesarily mean. Always has been! Such a turnoff. And yup - whenever someone is extremely homophobic they are usually hiding the fact that they are homosexual themselves.

posted September 11, 2021 01:53 AM            

You're welcome. We all need to vent & decompress sometimes.

I'm not into open relationships so I can't really relate to your dynamic. But if it isn't working for you (or her) anymore... just let it be. Don't force things EVER. You can love & support one another in a different form than this - as friends even.

posted September 11, 2021 02:15 AM              

When a person sleeps with people that get around a lot, then they increase their chance of getting STD's. That is irresponsible to their partner, because if they get something, they can pass it along. It is a numbers game statistically speaking.

Then, you're also polluting your energy/aura when you become intimate with slower vibratory people. Then you bring that home with you. Can manifest in various different ways, increased ego, increased sexual attachment, shorter temper, less patience, etc. Stuff I have to deal with.

I've seen this with her just hanging around friends as she is more energy sensitive than the average and picks up their energy. When you have sex with someone, the energy mixing is far more intense and longer lasting in effects.

posted September 11, 2021 02:27 AM            

I said if this isn't working for you, don't force it. Leave if you aren't truly compatible. If you're super worried about STDs and/or keeping a clean aura... it's probably best to stay in monogamous partnerships rather than open ones. You deserve to be happy.

posted September 11, 2021 02:35 AM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
Thank you Aries23Degrees. It just seems like a stupid waste to me, and over what, a guy/connection that likely will be relatively brief as most of the other ones have been (minus one guy).

Sort of, it was, but then retrograded too far past conjuncting the Desc for now. Meanwhile, T. Jupiter, ruler of my 5th and co-ruler of my 8th, is also in my 7th and retrograding back to conjunct N. Venus in 7th (Venus rules my 10th). On the bright side of things, I just got a pretty good new job. So if she decides to play chicken with me about this issue, I'll have enough saved up in a bit to move out.

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Maybe checkout progressions too. I swear I smell either Saturn or Uranus involved. Maybe even Mars?

posted September 11, 2021 02:48 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
@Aries23

Oh yeah Aries doesn't usually fear commitment. We just have to be SURE about you and the depth of our connection together. Same with Gemini. I was mostly talking about how surprisingly mature they can be with a tripple dose of Aries/Gemini compared to many others of their ilk. It's like the **purest form** of that sign's energy comes through and makes you want to cut them more slack than usual. It's interesting!

Great point about some Cancer Men. They (especially Suns) can be quite insecure and over-the-top at times. You mentioned Tom Cruise. But you know who I think of? 50 Cent! That dude is hyper-masculine but is overly sensitive and unneccesarily mean. Always has been! Such a turnoff. And yup - whenever someone is extremely homophobic they are usually hiding the fact that they are homosexual themselves.

As for Cancer Mars, they have their flaws. But I have steamy chemistry with them, as we have that Moon-Mars conjunction that I freaking love! We have emotional AND sexual passion together. I've always had the hots for Chris Hemsworth so funny you should mention him. His Leo Sun-Cancer Mars energy is just calling my name!! He's strong & masculine but not obnoxious like 50 Cent is.

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Yes....50 cents definitely. I was actually thinking of him but failed yo mention him (for some reason) when I was writing this post.

50 is very duplicitous though. He has Moon/Mercury in Gemini and so you should never take Gem Moon seriously. I have learned not to.

Add to that, he has Neptune in Sag opp Moon in Gemini-tendnecy to stretch the truth or exaggerate for shock value. Swings back/forth in extremes of opinion. Doesn't stick to one consistent belief.Very contrary

The Cancer man can be very insecure(at worst). I lived with one that would constantly aggravate my Cancer Moon (admittedly he also had Aries Moon which really grinds my gears by reacting with my natal T-square).

My Dad is also one. He can resort to intimidation and manipulation to get his way. He did this a lot when we were younger.

I also havesome steamy chemistry with Mars in Cancer. Lol. My Moon is in Cancer too. But its typically those who are wuthin 5 degrees (applying or separating) from my Mars.

I was in involved with a Libra with Mars in Cancer. Awful temper. I initially avoided him until we hung out one day with another mutual friend.

posted September 11, 2021 09:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I wonder if romantic relationships are hard to come by?🤔. North node in Aries in 7th may give the impression of someone who doesn't need anyone OR has trouble seeing the value of romantic ties long term(beyond physical gratification). Perhaps even attract partners withtye latter attitude reflected in their personality?

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posted September 11, 2021 11:03 AM              

Anyways, if she does sleep with him, there won't be any drama, fighting, or recrimination, it will just be a quiet and sad, well I'm moving out and we're not together anymore. I will always love her and care about her, and if we can, we'll stay friends.

If this happens, the plan is to stay single and celibate most likely. When I meditate a lot and consistently, I lose all sex drive and focus, and I'll have more free time to do that much intense meditation. If I happen to meet a very old Soul type of person who more or less matches my Soul energies, then I would be open to getting romantically involved, but I'm not holding my breath on that one. My guidance has shown me quite clearly that on a soul level, there aren't too many that have a similar wavelength and maturity level. The one person that I have met that is similar is a guy that lives on the other side of the country, and neither of us have any same sex attraction bodily wise.

Anyways, back to Aries.