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Topic: Sags aren't usually clingy so what's his deal?
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GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1406 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted December 18, 2021 09:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Absolutely 🙏🏿🙏🏿.We all have feelings.
Yes, minus most sociopaths and especially psychopaths. They experience anger, rage, frustration, but that's about it. Otherwise, they are completely numb and gray. Then again, I can't imagine too many ASPD types being at an astrology forum. Generally the above folks are not into esoteric type stuff at all, but usually extremely material focused. Occasionally you do get some that are into the occult, Satanism, or the like, but these are the more rare types. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1406 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted December 18, 2021 10:26 AM
Btw, it's not often talked about, but the Libra-Scorpio and Scorpio-Libra cusp areas of the Zodiac are some of the most potentially co-dependent areas of the Zodiac. You have the strong relationship focus of Libra mixing/blending with the strong attachment, desire nature, and hunger for deeper merging of Scorpio. It's a potent combination, and such blends/mixes are not uncommon in people with strong co-dependent type tendencies. (Btw, I'm not saying that this guy is co-dependent. I don't know enough about the situation to say one way or the other. Most people like others getting back to them within reasonable times, or at least a quick, hey I'm busy, it might be awhile before I get back to you in full. At least, that's the considerate thing to do). IP: Logged |
HeavenlyLove Knowflake Posts: 649 From: Allcity, Nothingland, Earth, Infinity Registered: Jan 2021
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posted December 18, 2021 12:12 PM
@ All: 🎄🎅 By the way, as I said, I hadn't read the thread yet when I posted, so I wasn't referring to anybody, just a general feeling and oppinion about how people often behave online, because they don't meet the others in person. 👫👩👧👨👩👦👦🕺💃🤰👨👦 @ Galactic : 🎄🔔 Could it maybe be that you meant 'dependent' instead of 'co-dependent' ?
Because 'co-dependent' is, at least as far as I heard so far, somebody who is dependent on somebody elses dependency/addiction. So indirectly also dependent, like co/com means 'together with'. For example family members or spouses feeding their morbidly obese (just to take an example) loved one to unconciously keep him/her dependent and not be left alone themselves as soon as he/she would lose weight and could leave the house to make some friends or get a job... And to prevent the family dynamics to become flexible and moving/changing with the help of open communication and/or even better a family therapy/counseling in that case. But maybe I misunderstood something or the expression is used differently in the US (?) Astrological question : 🌌💫
There seem to be different theories about areas within sings and houses. One astrologer had once told me that the very beginning of the sign had the strongest energy of the sign (chart owner did everything to 'reach' the sign with his planet energy, so lots of motivation), the other said the end (the planet went through the whole sign, so much experience and full of the energy of the sign), some say the middle (most pure energy of the sign, uninfluenced by the neighbours). And then there is the theory of anaretic (the very last within the sign) degrees, having to solve some (karmic?) issues there urgently, in the last 'minute'... Or maybe a mix of all 4 theories somehow ? I tend to mix them, looking what fits individually, but I'm not so experienced. 🤷 Maybe a complex subject for a seperate thread though... 🎄🎄🔔🎅🔔🎄🎄
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saronna Knowflake Posts: 1106 From: Sydney Australia Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 18, 2021 12:56 PM
This is hard when its your boyfriend & ghosts you. If your boyfriend ghosts maybe you are not meant to be & you will find a faithful boyfriend IP: Logged |
saronna Knowflake Posts: 1106 From: Sydney Australia Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 18, 2021 01:18 PM
Libra Scorpio cusp & Scorpio Libra cusp can be codependent. & it can be passionIP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1306 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted December 18, 2021 02:27 PM
I don’t see being annoyed with people who don’t respond in time and disappear sometimes as clingy or co-depended. If I answer the messages, I would expect the other person should do also. Doesn’t matter if it’s bf, friend or somebody random. Many people have a tendency to ghost nowadays. So it’s normal to try to find out if your potential date is reliable up front. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1406 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted December 18, 2021 03:40 PM
Hi HeavenlyLove, Co-dependent is a psychological term that means when people are too dependent on an outside relationship for a sense of fulfillment and happiness--to the point that is detrimental to their well being. Typically they tend to be too clingy and needy in a connection, and their insecurity levels tend to be very high (and they can become controlling because of that). A good example is I talked to a guy last night that broke up with his girlfriend because she was telling him that he can't have female friends, even though they were just platonic. He's an Aquarius Sun, and wasn't about to put up with that controlling behavior and so broke up with her. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1406 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted December 18, 2021 03:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by saronna: This is hard when its your boyfriend & ghosts you. If your boyfriend ghosts maybe you are not meant to be & you will find a faithful boyfriend
You got it backwards. She was the one ghosting and not being good at communication. He got upset with that and retaliated. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1406 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted December 18, 2021 03:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: I don’t see being annoyed with people who don’t respond in time and disappear sometimes as clingy or co-depended. If I answer the messages, I would expect the other person should do also. Doesn’t matter if it’s bf, friend or somebody random. Many people have a tendency to ghost nowadays. So it’s normal to try to find out if your potential date is reliable up front.
Yeah, I agree. That's why I clarified at the end of my post this: "(Btw, I'm not saying that this guy is co-dependent. I don't know enough about the situation to say one way or the other. Most people like others getting back to them within reasonable times, or at least a quick, hey I'm busy, it might be awhile before I get back to you in full. At least, that's the considerate thing to do)."
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5902 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted December 18, 2021 04:25 PM
Sometimes I don't respond and will disappear it depends on who it is though. If I just started talking to someone I don't feel like I'm obligated to respond right away. But if it's someone who I've talked to for awhile whether it's a friend or whatever I'll respond right away. There are times when I just don't like being bothered at all though. And I don't feel like I should have to explain myself to someone I just started talking to. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1406 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted December 18, 2021 04:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: Sometimes I don't respond and will disappear it depends on who it is though. If I just started talking to someone I don't feel like I'm obligated to respond right away. But if it's someone who I've talked to for awhile whether it's a friend or whatever I'll respond right away. There are times when I just don't like being bothered at all though. And I don't feel like I should have to explain myself to someone I just started talking to.
I understand all the above. But an interesting question to ask, is how do you feel when others do that to you? If that ever makes you feel kind of upset, disappointed, or the like, then wouldn't it be a bit hypocritical to do that to others? The beginning of spiritual wisdom is to always ask self, "How would I feel if someone did or didn't do what I'm thinking of doing or not doing to another?" It's also related to empathy. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5902 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted December 18, 2021 04:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2: I understand all the above. But an interesting question to ask, is how do you feel when others do that to you? If that ever makes you feel kind of upset, disappointed, or the like, then wouldn't it be a bit hypocritical to do that to others? The beginning of spiritual wisdom is to always ask self, "How would I feel if someone did or didn't do what I'm thinking of doing or not doing to another?" It's also related to empathy.
I just simply like having my space sometimes. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. I'm sure it's probably the Venus/Uranus aspect. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1406 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted December 18, 2021 04:49 PM
You didn't answer the question though. I've sure others have done that to you right? How did you feel? If it was always a reaction of, "well whatever" and you truly felt that way, then sure, go with that. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1406 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted December 18, 2021 04:54 PM
Btw, I'm not judging you or even in general. I occasionally am not so great about getting back to people within reasonable times.IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5902 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted December 18, 2021 04:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2: You didn't answer the question though. I've sure others have done that to you right? How did you feel? If it was always a reaction of, "well whatever" and you truly felt that way, then sure, go with that.
Yes they have and I deal with it.
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5902 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted December 18, 2021 04:56 PM
Do you have Venus square Uranus in your chart?IP: Logged |
saronna Knowflake Posts: 1106 From: Sydney Australia Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 18, 2021 04:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2: [QUOTE]Originally posted by saronna: [b]This is hard when its your boyfriend & ghosts you. If your boyfriend ghosts maybe you are not meant to be & you will find a faithful boyfriend
You got it backwards. She was the one ghosting and not being good at communication. He got upset with that and retaliated. [/B][/QUOTE] It was for heavenly love IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1406 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted December 18, 2021 04:57 PM
Well, we have no choice but to "deal with it" when it happens to us. But that's still kind of an avoidance of the deeper point of the question, isn't it? IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1406 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted December 18, 2021 05:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: Do you have Venus square Uranus in your chart?
It's even worse than that. I have Libra Moon with Aqua Venus in the 7th square Scorpio Uranus in the 4th. I tend to attract and be attracted to erratic, extremist, going from attached/loving to cold and detached, hot and cold types--the very types prone towards ghosting and inconsiderate communication styles--sometimes because they are also the type to get overwhelmed by life, others, themselves, or what not, easily. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5902 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted December 18, 2021 05:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2: It's even worse than that. I have Libra Moon with Aqua Venus in the 7th square Scorpio Uranus in the 4th. I tend to attract and be attracted to erratic, extremist, going from attached/loving to cold and detached, hot and cold types--the very types prone towards ghosting and inconsiderate communication styles--sometimes because they are also the type to get overwhelmed by life, others, themselves, or what not, easily.
Uranus is my 7th house ruler and it squares Venus.
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GalacticCoreExplosionV2 Knowflake Posts: 1406 From: Registered: Jul 2021
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posted December 18, 2021 05:24 PM
Yeah, it's mine as well. But it's worse when the ruler of the Descendant AND Venus placement (Uranus) are square Venus, and it's all Angular. IP: Logged |
HeavenlyLove Knowflake Posts: 649 From: Allcity, Nothingland, Earth, Infinity Registered: Jan 2021
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posted December 18, 2021 05:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by saronna: This is hard when its your boyfriend & ghosts you. If your boyfriend ghosts maybe you are not meant to be & you will find a faithful boyfriend
Oh, thank you Saronna, that's so sweet. 🎀🎄🎀
I'm very happy with my husband, he is very faithfull, but he's indeed ghosting me since years. He has left his body already but is still living with me here in our house on earth, while at the same time in another dimension somehow (very exceptional circumstances). He's now waving friendly to all of you, 👋🙂 wishes a heartfelt Merry Christmas ! (I'm serious) 🎄🎅🎅🔔🎅🎅🎅🎄🎅🎅🎅🔔🎅🎅🎄 Don't worry, we are both not sad about the situation (planned it before we were born) and enjoying the joke about it...
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saronna Knowflake Posts: 1106 From: Sydney Australia Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 18, 2021 06:03 PM
Your welcome Heavenly Love. It was meant for Aries23degrees. Merry Christmas. I'm so happy your husband lives with youIP: Logged |
HeavenlyLove Knowflake Posts: 649 From: Allcity, Nothingland, Earth, Infinity Registered: Jan 2021
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posted December 18, 2021 06:15 PM
Thanks Saronna, Merry Christmas to you as well and everybody !🎄🎀🎄 🎄🎀🎄 IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9015 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 19, 2021 12:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2: Yes, minus most sociopaths and especially psychopaths. They experience anger, rage, frustration, but that's about it. Otherwise, they are completely numb and gray. Then again, I can't imagine too many ASPD types being at an astrology forum. Generally the above folks are not into esoteric type stuff at all, but usually extremely material focused. Occasionally you do get some that are into the occult, Satanism, or the like, but these are the more rare types.
Like that Manson guy. He to me appeared like a sociopath. An influential sociopath made worse by delusions of grandeur of his own "greatness". Very unsettling. IP: Logged |