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Aries23Degrees
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posted December 19, 2021 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
[QUOTE]That guy was your boyfriend that’s different. This is someone I just started talking to. But yes we like to disappear I don’t need to talk everyday.

Even if it's someone you just started talking to, the bond has been formed and they are progressively getting attached with each back/forth response.

I talk to dudes online and perhaps it ends nowhere with some. But for others, i do tell them when I am going off the grid. I just think it doesn't take anything away from me to do that.

Infact, it may give them some hope that there are decent people online who do value connection🙏🏿

When you are inconsistent & erratic, I often see that as emotional immaturity & insecurity. Somehow I always think the person is emotionally retarded.

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posted December 19, 2021 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by saronna:
[b]This is hard when its your boyfriend & ghosts you. If your boyfriend ghosts maybe you are not meant to be & you will find a faithful boyfriend

Couldn't agree more. The thing is that i thought we were stable.I don't know what was going on in his head. But yes, I think with Ven-Ura aspects at times this can happen.

I showered him with affection & perhaps he couldn't deal with it? Maybe mistook it for "suffocation"? It wounded me tbh. But am over it now.I realize the problem wasn't me. It was him.

Sometimes when you give love and another rejects it(either intentionally/not)u can feel "wrong" for being affectionate then start to "harden" yourself.

The problem with that however is that u are being "reactive" and not "creative". Because the base part of u that started in the relationship wasn't about concealing affection/withholding it. It was about opening up and giving it away.

So i went back to my base self. And ironically ran into other Ven/Moon -Ura suitors.But the experience was different🤷🏿‍♂️

The one I am seeing now has Moon opp Jup square Uran🤔(i am attracted to & attract Ura types a lot).

Moon-Ura square folks tend to feel 'safe' (Moon)in open-endedness or uncertainty (Ur).The aim here is towards emotional independence/ flexibility & the need to avoid being let-down by promises/ engagements (which are by nature "fixed"). Or being tied to them in any way.

Moon-Jup is in opposition. The gambler and chance taker. He also has Mars in Aries which adds to that. It's no wonder he opened up to me so quickly.His intention is to be emotionally (Moon) expansive (Jup) and let more in.

This once again suggests to me that he isn't necessarily looking for good old "consistency" . But is more attuned to looking for "consistent changes"🤷🏿‍♂️

Jup square Ura nurtures interest in the new & unusual: Unpredictability/ the weird/inventive & exciting(their own definition)call them towards "expansion" in life. They wouldn't be happy with things being hum drum. It may even make them restless if they are.

He is an electrician (Ura). And can drop our appointment off at the drop of a hat to attend to a call by a client.

He says he "hates" how unstable his life is(this is the typical "square" effect). I am not so sure he "hates" it.The square is the aspect that often doesn't recognize its own role in the chaos it creates for itself. But perhaps he is not aware that he creates it?

I think he may have chosen it (maybe even unconsciously) to be this way. Because perhaps it is emotionally stimulating & invigorating for him(Moon aspects)?

Out of all careers, he chose to be an electrician & work with something unpredictable like electricity. Add to that, to be at other people's "beck and call" at any minute of the day. 💁🏿‍♂️

There is something about that that suggests being drawn to crisis. And being at home in it.

#i don't know why I told u all this. But I was on a roll.🤣🤣

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posted December 19, 2021 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do like talking to him though we stay up late and talk on the phone. But I don't know if there is physical attraction between us. He's a Venus in Capricorn with Mars in Virgo. I'm a Venus in Pisces with Mars in Gemini. Our Venuses are in each other 5th houses and my Mars is in his 8th house but I don't know.

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posted December 19, 2021 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Like that Manson guy. He to me appeared like a sociopath. An influential sociopath made worse by delusions of grandeur of his own "greatness". Very unsettling.

Do you mean Charles Manson or Marilyn Manson? Either one, I could see as being possible, though the latter strikes me more as NPD (more specifically, probably malignant narcissism). There are some similar, cross over traits between these at times, but folks on the NPD spectrum do have at least some attunement to some empathy and conscience, even though their selfishness levels are quite high and empathy levels lower than typical. They can still occasionally feel somewhat bad for doing hurtful things to others, etc. (though, it is rather hard for them to face their selves honestly and fully often, when it comes to such things).

To me, NPD is the consciousness stage before ASPD. Meaning that if a Soul persists on a NPD type path of beingness, they will eventually devolve to the full ASPD at some point. Rarely in the same life though, though I suppose that is possible.

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posted December 21, 2021 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does this guy have any womanizer placements?

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posted December 21, 2021 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Does this guy have any womanizer placements?

For real?

Mercury ruler of the 8th in Sag, conjunct Sag Sun (an expander) and Sag Uranus (the extremes).

Jupiter ruler of the 5th in Scorpio conjunct Scorpio Asc and Libra Saturn and Pluto.

And Mars fairly closely trine Venus and square Neptune, with Venus closely conjunct S. Node (over attachment to Venus energy/patterns in other lives).

What do you think? Hint, it may as well say "Don Juan wannabe" on his chart.

Also, if the chart is pretty accurate, chances are he is quite a bit larger than average. Jupiter tends to indicate expansion, and Scorpio rules you know what. That can give a guy a lot of extra confidence and he can go to extremes with it. My spouse dated a guy like that a long while back.

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posted December 22, 2021 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
For real?

Mercury ruler of the 8th in Sag, conjunct Sag Sun (an expander) and Sag Uranus (the extremes).

Jupiter ruler of the 5th in Scorpio conjunct Scorpio Asc and Libra Saturn and Pluto.

And Mars fairly closely trine Venus and square Neptune, with Venus closely conjunct S. Node (over attachment to Venus energy/patterns in other lives).

What do you think? Hint, it may as well say "Don Juan wannabe" on his chart.

Also, if the chart is pretty accurate, chances are he is quite a bit larger than average. Jupiter tends to indicate expansion, and Scorpio rules you know what. That can give a guy a lot of extra confidence and he can go to extremes with it. My spouse dated a guy like that a long while back.


I don’t know what to think of him he said he’s been hurt. He said he was doing long distance with some woman. And that she turned out to be married. He said he’s afraid to give his heart to another woman. He said he doesn’t like cheaters. I guess he’s a player though it really sucks because I’m actually starting to like him.

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posted December 22, 2021 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HeavenlyLove:

Oh, thank you Saronna, that's so sweet. 🎀🎄🎀

I'm very happy with my husband, he is very faithfull, but he's indeed ghosting me since years.

He has left his body already but is still living with me here in our house on earth, while at the same time in another dimension somehow (very exceptional circumstances).

He's now waving friendly to all of you, 👋🙂
wishes a heartfelt Merry Christmas ! (I'm serious)

🎄🎅🎅🔔🎅🎅🎅🎄🎅🎅🎅🔔🎅🎅🎄


Don't worry, we are both not sad about the situation (planned it before we were born) and enjoying the joke about it...


Can you open a new thread and talk more about it? I'm intrigued.

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posted December 22, 2021 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I don’t know what to think of him he said he’s been hurt. He said he was doing long distance with some woman. And that she turned out to be married. He said he’s afraid to give his heart to another woman. He said he doesn’t like cheaters.I guess he’s a player though it really sucks because I’m actually starting to like him.

Not necessarily. People are not their charts. We are more than same. We have freewill and can change from the patterns indicated. Yeah, he does have a few player type patterns, but I don't know how he is using his freewill or not. Give him a chance, but just keep your eyes open.

Also, Jupiter seems to be his strongest Planet. Jupiter is the one of the symbols of "oldsoulness" and in an archetypal sense, is pretty fast vibratory (though his is pulled down some by the Saturn Pluto conjunction to same).

Jupiter tends to be sincere, well meaning, well intentioned, deeper (both in mind and feelings/heart), service minded, tendency towards the positive. People don't think of it in this way, but Jupiter is one of the symbols of love--not romantic love, but spiritual love.

Edgar Cayce's guidance usually had mostly positive things to say about Jupiter and those who had it very strong to strong.

Hence, he may be telling the truth with all that. Jupitarians do tend to be more sensitive than average, though not quite to the degree of Neptunians. People seem to forget that Jupiter co-rules Pisces. That never stopped happening just because Neptune entered the scene. Jupiter is a bit more red shifted than Pisces (purple vs violet), but more blue shifted than fiery Sagittarius (more reddish and lighter purple, akin to magenta). It is kind of in between.

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posted December 22, 2021 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for saronna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If he's been hurt before in a long distance relationship & she was married give him space & distance. I agree give him a chance

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posted December 23, 2021 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
Not necessarily. People are not their charts. We are more than same. We have freewill and can change from the patterns indicated. Yeah, he does have a few player type patterns, but I don't know how he is using his freewill or not. Give him a chance, but just keep your eyes open.

Also, Jupiter seems to be his strongest Planet. Jupiter is the one of the symbols of "oldsoulness" and in an archetypal sense, is pretty fast vibratory (though his is pulled down some by the Saturn Pluto conjunction to same).

Jupiter tends to be sincere, well meaning, well intentioned, deeper (both in mind and feelings/heart), service minded, tendency towards the positive. People don't think of it in this way, but Jupiter is one of the symbols of love--not romantic love, but spiritual love.

Edgar Cayce's guidance usually had mostly positive things to say about Jupiter and those who had it very strong to strong.

Hence, he may be telling the truth with all that. Jupitarians do tend to be more sensitive than average, though not quite to the degree of Neptunians. People seem to forget that Jupiter co-rules Pisces. That never stopped happening just because Neptune entered the scene. Jupiter is a bit more red shifted than Pisces (purple vs violet), but more blue shifted than fiery Sagittarius (more reddish and lighter purple, akin to magenta). It is kind of in between.


Thank you for your input but the Composite chart is really bad. Which is why I'm afraid to go any further.

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posted December 25, 2021 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavenlyLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Originally posted by kani:
Can you open a new thread and talk more about it? I'm intrigued.



I'm glad that somebody is so openminded to be even interested, thank you. 🙂
I'm not sure if I should open a thread about it though...

But in case anybody here reading this should consider something like I said here to be possible in principle, then my husband would be very happy if he could read in the physical world, that somebody is sending him some Christmas greetings or waving to him.
He didn't tell me that, but I know...
He is still, just like we are, partly at least, in the earthly dimension, but nobody sees him except me (not with my physical eyes)...💙

But maybe then in my thread about end degrees of houses... I'll put a link in a minute...
Just in case anybody should genuinely feel like it and not find it creepy...🙂
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/243279.html

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posted January 01, 2022 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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