posted December 27, 2021 07:50 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
You have a lovely voice Nadja!...

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+1!

And reading your latter reply about your background, Nadja, I would say clearly you are a true, bonafide natural.

posted December 27, 2021 07:58 PM            

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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
GCE, yes, my songs are written in minor keys which gives them a sad tonality...

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Oh yes, I dig the minor keys and melancholy music in general. I think music (and also other arts) in general is good for therapy. Oh, I'm sure you could write a happy song or two, but maybe later, or maybe you just prefer the former for now.

Btw, if you do have Leo Jupiter conjunct Leo Asc, chances are, you'd be rather tall and strong for a woman (likely with an unusually long and/or broad back and/or a larger than average heart--[either physically and/or metaphorically]). If that doesn't apply, chances are, your chart may need to be adjusted a bit. Though, once a the conjunction between an Asc and Planet gets to around 6 to 7 degrees or so, the physical manifestation (gah, indication/correlation part becomes less and less noticeable.

posted December 27, 2021 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
Venus in aspect with Mercury is usually found among singers, as well as writers, poets and dancers and all those who have a very special loving bond with language and generally a creative heart seeking to be expressed. I know Elvis Presley has this aspect. Also Carl Jung, F. Scott Fitzgerald, T.S. Elliot and Rudolph Nureyev. It is an aspect that fills your "voice" with so many colors that all you want to do is to share with the people around you the beauty of love, the beauty of life...

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Makes sense. Thank you for sharing. Sadly, I do not have that aspect.

I've seen different charts for Elvis, but I really favor the very late Taurus or very early Gemini Asc (either way, each cusping the other Sign very strongly). It just fits his looks, personality, and life pattern better. Sag to me doesn't fit as well. Btw, he and I share the same b-day (also David Bowie).

posted December 27, 2021 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:
Merry Christmas loving people... Galactic, Nadja, PlutoWasHere and mee_chryssa...
You all have very beautiful voices...

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A late Merry Christmas to you as well.

posted December 27, 2021 08:12 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
My daughter loves to sing, always has,...

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Very interesting StoneMoon. I've seen strong/highlighted Taurus and/or Venus in so many singer's charts, that it is borderline ridiculous. But, not all charts are accurate, especially when it comes to the Rising Sign.

To add another anecdotal tick to the list--our Kannon M., I'm pretty sure I remember him saying that he used to be very into singing, and he has Taurus Sun, Mercury, and Venus I believe, and I think Mercury is his chart ruler. I'm not sure why he gave it up though.

posted December 27, 2021 08:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Sauerkraut:
well i have venus conjunct mercury in the 5th house, wide trine neptune in the 1st. with an unfortunate kicker - a taurus chiron parallel mercury in the 5th.

i love singing but only do so when all alone. got caught in the act once and was downright mortified - had pulled up to a friends place, sat in the car to finish a song and out of nowhere my door flung open. "wtf! you know how to sing? i dont get it. why do you not sing in front of people ever?" frozen. did not respond. chiron is such a vibe killer sometimes. however, recorded myself once out of curiosity and it sounded atrocious.

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Haha, that's funny and cute.

Most people don't like the sound of their voice when recorded and hearing it for the first time (or first 20 times or so really). There is a physical and psychological reason for that. We hear our voices differently than others and how it is recorded. To us, because of the resonance of our head and bones near the ear, our voice sounds a bit deeper, richer, and more resonant to us in live time.

So when we hear a recorded version--there is like a cognitive dissonance and the immediate reaction for most is, "that sounds horrible" or at the very least, "that sounds off". It really is a common reaction. I definitely experienced it for awhile, until I got used to hearing the recorded version. Lol, in my head, I can sound a fair amount like Elvis, but in reality, his voice is a bit deeper, richer and resonant than mine, which I can more so tell when I hear my voice recorded. Though, first thing in the morning, I can sound "more" like him, since our voices tend to be deeper when we first wake up.

You're in good company, and definitely sing like no one is around, even if people are around. Who cares?! I work in people's homes, and sometimes play my phone's music softly (because I'm usually alone in a different room), and sometimes start singing along. Sometimes I worry that I might be bothering them, but more often than not, I get positive reactions. More people than not, enjoy harmony and nice sounds. It resonates with our Souls on a deeper level. It is the very stuff of creative life force. Spread those high vibes.

But I get it. Capricorn is my strongest Sign, and Virgo is not far behind, especially since the ruler of my Cap Sun and Merc is in Virgo, along with NN in 1st, Mars (co ruler of IC), and Jupiter retrograding back in the 1st. It took me A LONG time to even start to get semi comfortable singing in front of others. If I don't do karaoke at least once in awhile, I really feel it when I finally go again, and I get rather nervous, tight, uncomfortable, etc.

Apparently even to this day, when Eddie Vedder (a Cap Sun with fairly strong Virgo with Moon and Mars in same) does a live event, he experiences a fair amount of nervousness, discomfort, and has been known to drink a fair amount before shows to loosen up. I saw Pearl Jam live once some years back and he definitely was drinking something.

posted December 27, 2021 08:38 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
GCE .. Can you read music?

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Hi Mirage,

As I wrote Chryssa earlier, "But so far, just voice for me. (Played a little trumpet in elementary and started to learn how to read music, but I don't really count that since I don't remember any of it)."

So no, unfortunately I cannot. I would like to get back into music more though. Just a matter of time and energy, neither of which I have a lot of extra. I went through a period during my teen years where I really wanted to learn violin--but we were quite poor by American standards and there was no way that was going to happen. When I played trumpet briefly, I had to borrow my uncles.

If I did pick up an instrument again, it would likely be guitar, and maybe, eventually violin or cello.

What about yourself--can you read music?

posted December 28, 2021 02:32 AM            

When I was younger I had some features bigger. In time, my body adjusted and I love it now.

[ Edited because it was linked to my facebook account ]

Thats a picture of me.

My time of birth is right. It might be a couple of minutes off, but with the time of birth that the hospital gave it to me, its an exact conjunction, so I doubt that my time of birth is so far off.

I really dont like this typo of ascendant conjunct jupiter means that someone is fat, large, have a strong body. I havent donr any sport in my life. My mars is in Gemini, I cant do any physical activity and its rather weak.

I have problems with eating, eating too much, too little, or having special diets, like being vegan, vegetarian. My moon is in Taurus but its opposite Pluto.

Because I started smoking, now if I stop smoking, I will put some weight on, but this happens to everyone, so I doubt its because of jupiter conjunct ASC.

But metaphorically, yes. Im mostly laughing all day long and talking with everyone even if I dont know them well, im a bit naive in this matter. Someone was stalking me at work because he thought that Im giving this attention because I like him, but that how I talk with everyone. I told our manager about this because I was really scared when I realized that guy was stalking me, it was pretty bad, and he said that he didnt know that you talk like that with everyone and he thought that you are being open just with him.

I was so scared at that time. I had to shut myself off and not do these things that I naturally do. Since then, I keep in mind that I never know the person im talking with entitely and I can get hurt and just because I talk with everyone the same. But I cant do it. I changed the job and started the same 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I just cant... i feel really bad if I stop me being me.

I just looked online just by pure curiosity because you said this and on astrotheme I can't find a single person that has a large body or features because of this conjunction. Carmen Electra, Lorde, Sharon Tate are some of the people mentioned and none of them is like that. This conjunction affects the whole life of the native and gives and optimistic approach to life in general and tons of hope, to say it in a few words, since the ASC is how we react to the environment and life in general (since it points out where the other houses are too), and a healthy body. I never had any medical problems. But ny north node is in the 6th house, so it might be on the way, so to say.

posted December 28, 2021 07:13 PM            

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Nadja!
Your voice is outstanding!!
You definitely have Talent.

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Thank you!

I sang in the school choir while I was underage, then later in various student choirs while I was at university, and now I sing in a small local choir where I'm by far the youngest member. The school choir was lead by the music teacher but other than that I don't think any of my choir leaders have had much formal training, and mostly the levels of ambition and ability both have been rather low. I've taken part in some projects that were more challenging and that included some singing technique workshops and the like though. I'd love to do more projects like that, or maybe find a small ensemble or other singing venue that would be more demanding. But I live rurally and am part of a language minority too, so the options are kind of limited.

One thing that singing in a choir has taught me is musical instinct/intuition. I don't know much about how to read music nor am I very technically skilled, but I like to think I have a good ear and a quick mind for learning music. Good sense of rhythm too. I'm not very analytical or intellectual when it comes to singing... I feel the music and try to become one with the music I guess. I'm kind of sensitive to dissonance though, so if the choir isn't very harmonious it can throw me off. But I do love those times when the choir reaches such harmony that it almost feels like one voice.

posted December 28, 2021 11:23 PM            

I really really hope that one day you'll be able to attend another one of those projects, or that among the various church groups there, you could get together with a much smaller group just to Harmonize some hymns, or something like that.

I've been seeing youtubes of older teens who had come together in the stairwells of their school (echoey places) to "just sing together." I've seen older teen females that get together to sing acapella(unaccompanied) in echoey restrooms/lavatory-- but for right now, I only found some males.

(music) Bathroom Serenade
{teen boys in lav singing 'For The Longest Time' acapella}
[4:02] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UklNu2NS4Q

When I was in middle-school/high-school, I'd meet with a few musical friends outside an echoey cove of a building to rehearse (with no accompaniment/ a capella) some of the harmonies of the songs we were learning in choir class.

This group of guys did that-- and have created professional albums. They get invited to visit, on tours. You never know 'what you got' until you TRY it.

(music) Motherless Child
(Kings Return, acapella, July 2021)
[3:05] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2OAIPe45Ms

When the holidays would come, we'd go caroling door-to-door. Such GREAT memories!!

After school concerts we'd go to a certain restaurant to order ice cream sundaes {one was the size of a punchbowl, called "the kitchen sink"}.

You don't have to be 'formal' about it--
just hang with some ~crazy friends who LOVE to sing, and have musical ears.

GalacticCE! .. re Read music.
If you wanted to, it is totally possible to teach 'yourself' how to read music.
You asked-- and that's what I did.

Want to Learn? --
I described a way to teach yourself how to 'read' music, described using asteroids! Asteroid Astrology forum, thread called --

"Music lovers, everybody-- Asteroid 1266 Tone"
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/004036.html

Nadja had mentioned learning by 'listening'-- that's what I did too. I learned rhythms by 'listening' to recordings, then pretending to play the piano-- making it 'sound like the record'!
Well, at least first in my imagination?

I didn't know about it back then but -- There's a technique invented for learning how to play instruments called the Suzuki Method? Japanese children learned violin at a very early age using that method.
{google it!} They even have it for learning guitar.

Mee__Chryssa! (I missed seeing your picture awwww).
I'm looking forward to your furthering this new project idea! Wow, that was your first time. I liked the flavor of the track you laid down.

GalacticCE.. Look into watching youtubes. There are 'tubes on EVERYTHING!!!
There are keyboard lessons, and guitar,
and voice lessons to watch.

There are BOOKS on singing, and some of those come with recordings for practicing exercises and scales to 'strengthen' the voice.

Came across one in a library, by a vocal coach named Roger Love.
Go google the dude's name.
He's got 'free' stuff available online.

And, go join a choir, GCE!! Have FUN.
Meet interesting other kinds of people.

Choirs..
I first belonged to a church choir when I was 12 years old. Sang in all the school choirs, All-State Choirs (usa), Music Camps, then several years of University-level choirs. Several (talented) community choirs.
Church choirs (methodist, baptist, presbyterian, catholic; non-denominational).
Got to sing 'back up' for some visiting Christian celebrities.
Was on a mega-church worship team for several years.

All-that above was from my past present life. *laughing*
Haven't sung at all now since ~2009.
My music reading and other skills are rusty.
But ear for music has not gone away.

Sorry, I can't remember all my 'music' placements. Should have collected and written them down together on one page. Chart has more than several.

The main one is classic ----

Venus in Taurus, in the 5th House Taurus.
Venus rules my 5th, 6th, and 10th cusps.
placidus

I also had a wider vocal range.
Like Nadja, my voice is mezzo-soprano.

In choirs I LOVED singing with the Alto Sections. *bounce*
(Have infectious ability to 'boost' the corps d'esprit in a group, and encouraged the fun-factor of being in our group of 'altos'! I've noted the tendency of altos to hold themselves back-- when you have a few who will 'dare' to sing, then the rest don't feel as intimidated. I truly understand how that feels..)

Could usually manage to bring a 'charge' to musical atmospheres because on one hand, music is like caffeine! I have love in my heart that percolates. I sing with my heart and soul; 'with' the Understanding. Sacred music is incredibly profound, and can draw down the Spirit, so thickly.

Mercury in Gemini is trine Neptune r Libra 10th.
(out-of-sign & out-of-bounds Mercury Gem cj Mars Cancer)
Mercury sextile Pluto

Later-Virgo Moon conjunct early-Libra MC.

Moon sextile Uranus Cancer,
Moon sextile Jupiter Cancer.... 8th
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Moon conjunct Fixed Star Alkies --
{musical family; talents handed down through generations.}
have musicstage&filmworldfamous dna2nd cousin

Terpsichore Aquarius {choirs}
cj FixedStar Altair,
Terpsichore trine MC Libra,
trine Sun Gemini, trine Harmonia Libra

I like the modern giant 'cluster chords'. To some ears it sounds terrible and 'unresolved'? The unresolve is actually a 'suspension'. Sounds like The Music of The Spheres!

(music) Harmonic Analysis:
"Sleep," by Eric Whitacre
(David Bennett Thomas, Univ of The Arts in Philadelphia, Oct 2019)
[6:12] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7o0GHVU_i0

Mee_Chryssa!
The 'base' line of this modern composition reminds me of your first piece of work.

Christmas Song ---

(music) Little Lamb by John Tavener
(The Erebus Ensemble, Oct 2017)
[4:05] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp1Eq4nfnKc

Here's the same song, without the people.
In this vid you can follow the notes,
and read the text.

(music) Little Lamb
{Motivic Development analysis}
(David Bennett Thomas, Univ of The Arts in Philadelphia)
[3:59] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqZYA9EU6PI

posted December 29, 2021 12:45 PM            

(music) If Music Be The Food Of Love
by Henry Purcell (1659-1695)
(Leon Dreher tenor, Alexander Feih pianist;
Recorded for the Vienna International Music Competition 2018)
[2:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82xzBvH2veE

posted December 29, 2021 03:34 PM            

I've actually never sung in a church choir. I'm an atheist so I'd rather avoid singing devotional music... my heart just wouldn't be in it. I've sought out the only other kind of choir that can be found around here, which is organized by the adult education center, a municipal institution that offers affordable language courses, a vide variety of lectures, arts and crafts, workout groups... and choirs. There is an acapella group too, that I've been eyeing, but I always work on the evenings when they practice so it's just not meant to be right now... I do love singing acapella though, so maybe sometime in the future. I also love barbershop style singing, so something similar would be awesome.

posted December 31, 2021 10:03 AM            

Hi Chryssa, there are some very good reasons for these kind of associations, like centuries of observation and correlation. By "larger", I did not mean "fat/overweight" btw, but broader and/or taller than average. Some examples. I met a woman while traveling and we had an instant connection. She was vending and I just started talking to her more personally (which at the time was a bit unusual for me, many years ago). She has Capricorn Rising (but with Cap Jupiter moderately closely conjunct same (I think there was like a 4 or 5 degree separation). In an archetypal sense, Capricorn is one of the shortest and slimmest Rising Signs (and it is the most melanated Sign after Taurus, which is the most in an archetypal sense).

She was not tall, tall, at 5' 8", but definitely taller than the average or archetypal Cap Rising. Weight wise, she had a little extra but more so had a somewhat larger/stronger skeletal structure, but for me, still in a nice womanly way and facially she was quite pretty/attractive to me. I really liked her, but unfortunately I had a girlfriend at the time, and wanted to stay true to her (which, ironically, as soon as I got back from the trip, my girlfriend dumped me).

Ok, my partner has Cap Rising, but her chart ruler, Saturn is in Libra and conjunct Jupiter with less than a degree of separation. She is a bit under 5'10". After seeing her X ray, her chiropractor said that if her spine had developed optimally, she would have been around 6' tall, which is pretty tall for a woman. She also has a somewhat broad body with large, strong bones. She is quite strong for a woman. But she is also attractive, definitely slightly better than average looking.

For a different example. I briefly dated a woman that has Aries Sun, Aries Rising, and Aries Mars. Her Aries Sun and Asc were fairly closely conjunct. She is about 5' 9" and has a very broad and strong type of skeletal and muscle structure (I mean, she probably could have played American football really well among women and probably decently among males. She had a broad, strong back and shoulders). She is also somewhat masculine looking, and I would say average or slightly below in looks facially. Sun, like Jupiter, is an expanding, strength, and vitally increasing symbol/indication, and both Aries and Sun are Yang/masculine. Since her Mars was also in Aries--that was some very, very Yang/masculine energy in relation to her Asc, and I've noticed that women with this very over Yang condition, tend to be less "classically" attractive facially and/or bodily.

I was a student of the Edgar Cayce work for many years. I very much accept what his guidance talked about between the possible (and fairly common) difference in time between the purely physical birth and the "spiritual birth". Spiritual birth being when the Soul completes its energetic connections to the body via the endocrine glands and brain. Cayce's guidance strongly indicated at least a few times, that it was the time of the spiritual birth that was the correct chart. There are cases in there of a half a day or so difference in time between the physical and spiritual birth times, (though they can also be quite close as well).

One of the reasons why I was open to this info besides my built up trust in that work (due to the large amount of hard evidence verification), is that my mom told me that when she was having me, that it was a little while after my body was born, that she saw a bright light descend and enter into my body, and indeed, a bit later of a chart does fit better holistically.

Anyways, I've been doing this astrology thing for nearly 30 years now. I probably have a bit more real world observation under my belt, and probably have read more books than the average person here at this site. And I'm telling you, when Jupiter is powerfully connected to the Asc AND the chart is accurate, it indicates some expansion of the body in some way, and usually in height, and/or broadness, skeletal structure, and/or yes, sometimes in weight (but not necessarily). Sometimes it more focuses on the part(s) of the body that the Rising Sign rules though.

I'm not saying you aren't predominantly or very strongly Jupitarian. As long as Jupiter is in your 1st or even widely conjunct your Asc, you will have a very strong, and most likely, predominant Jupiter. But once a Planet starts to get around 6 degrees or so away from the Asc, then you start to see less and less of the physical part of the indicating. The astrology does NOT cause ANY of this btw. But the larger consciousness system "matches up symbolically" the genetic, Soul/consciousness, family, etc conditions with the timing of the birth so that they correlate with (astrologically/symbolically) each other. It is pretty silly and superstitious to think that somehow Saturn "causes" a person to be shorter, slimmer, bonier, and/or more melanated when more closely conjunct the Asc, as if Saturn was directly influencing genetics. No, it is a Jungian type synchronicity that happens. Nothing more, nothing less.

And there is a hierarchy of indication or like a "strength chart" to follow. For example. Close Planetary conjunction wins out over the Rising Sign some, and way over the Sign placement of the chart ruler. Planetary conjunctions or oppositions of the chart ruler can really modify the archetype of the Rising Sign, but not as much as a direct conjunction or opposition to the Asc. The least strong of these, is the Sign of the chart ruler. It is the most subtle part of these potential factors. Even close cusping of the Asc Sign with another, is often far more noticeable than the Sign of the chart ruler.

Like Edgar Cayce had Leo Rising with Leo Uranus closely conjunct his Asc and with his chart ruler, the Sun, in Pisces. He was unusually tall for his generation (6'2") as well somewhat gangly, awkward, and somewhat odd looking (due to his high nervous energy + chain smoking, for most of his life he was rather skinny). For an American who was born in the 1800's to grow to 6' 2" is roughly equivalent to American men growing to like 6' 4" or 6' 5" today, which is definitely above average. That's Uranus primarily, combined with some of the Leo, whereas Pisces tends to be shorter and/or sometimes a bit more slower metabolism.

Btw, I never saw your pic. This is an older pic of me below. I'm quite "classically" Leo looking, except for my height which is slightly below average, whereas in an archetypal sense, Leo Asc is usually at least average to moderately above same. In my chart, it is correlated to chart ruler, the Sun, in Capricorn inconjunct the Asc. I have a shorter than usual back. When a chiropractor took an X-ray of my back, he told me that I was genetically missing an entire lumbar vertebrae. If that had not been the case, I would have been around like 5' 10" to 5' 11" or so. I know this, because I've had male friends around that height where my hips were at the same height of theirs. Ironically perhaps, but the males on my mom's side of the family tend to have fairly long backs--including my grandfather who also had Leo Rising but with Leo Mars widely conjunct his Asc and Sun in Sag (he reportedly had been quite strong for his size, slightly under 6 ft, back in the day).

Jupiter is way, way to far away from my Asc to indicate any altering. But I am quite Jupitarian in a lot of deep and consistent ways. In fact, when first learning about astrology, for awhile I identified a lot more with a combo of Pisces and Aquarius than Capricorn. Astrologically I chalk that up to a combo of Jupiter in the 1st which is conjunct the faster moving ruler of IC (which also rules the 9th), chart ruler the Sun being parallel Neptune (and being aspected to ruler of Sun and Mercury, as well as ruler of Moon), ruler of the 12th--the Moon being widely conjunct the ruler of Sun and Mercury, angular Pisces SN, Uranus Angular and aspected to ruler of Sun and Mercury and to chart ruler, and ruler of my Moon being in Aqua, Angular, and moderately square Uranus.
http://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lm3R0Vi0ctmTtbqRqnBPeuluzg9-BhxQ/view?usp=sharing

posted December 31, 2021 07:22 PM            

As I had expressed in that linked asteroid Tone thread, music was KEY.

It's played a vital part in the important {cleansing} work-- processing emotions. 'E-motions'. Opened my Heart, was behind deep prayer and mystical experience.

GCE, before I close this post---
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I want to mention what a gift you have, in the crafting of your deep and thoughtful replies to others here.

Choir----
If you're serious about singing--
join a group! Be part of a choir.
You'll learn soooo much.
Would open-up {free it up, expand} your voice.
Lets you discover even more of what you can do.
And, you'll be making a collective group Contribution.
Lots of choirs want more men!

Wishing you a Special New Year.
{And, go finish writing that BOOK?!! }

(music) Earth Song, by Frank Ticheli
(teen ensemble, New Zealand Choir Federation,
2012 competition)
[4:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJewD4xdJ3c

lyrics
Sing, Be, Live, See
This dark stormy hour,
the wind, it stirs.
The scorched Earth cries out
in vain.

Oh 'war and power',
you blind and blur.
The torn heart cries out
in pain.

But music and singing
have been my refuge,
and music and singing
shall be my light.

A light of song, shining strong.
Hallelujah! Hallelujah.

Through darkness
and pain and strife,

I'll sing,
I'll Be,
Live,
See...

Peace.

posted December 31, 2021 07:47 PM            

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I've sought out the only other kind of choir that can be found around here, which is organized by the adult education center, a municipal institution that offers affordable language courses, a wide variety of lectures, arts and crafts, workout groups... and choirs.

There is an acapella group too, that I've been eyeing, but I always work on the evenings when they practice so it's just not meant to be right now... I do love singing acapella though, so maybe sometime in the future. I also love barbershop style singing, so something similar would be awesome.

Speaking of the Suzuki method... My brother is blind and taught himself to play a variety of instruments entirely by ear.
. . . .

He struggled sometimes with technique, but reproducing a piece of music was otherwise easy for him. It's interesting really... we both have a talent for music, but it's expressed so differently.

I've never had any inclination to learn to play an instrument. I felt like I already had the perfect instrument in my own body.

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"perfect instrument -- the Human Body"
yes yes yes .... so unique ....
and you can take it with you,
anywhere your feet take you. *Heart*

Nadja! How nice that your govt sponsors community Values: The Arts, and Adult Education!! *bounce* that's fantastic.

Here in the US regarding funds for The Arts, there had been a negative shifting away. Politicians came in who veered money away from it. They have a poverty level austere mindset when it comes to needs of the Human. Schools are barely-funded, and music/arts were stripped from programs.

Story about your brother sounds amazing!! And talent DOES run in family genes, DNA.

Barber shop quartet?

Ever hear of the women's singing group called "Sweet Adeline's"?
- http://sweetadelines.com/about/barbershop-101

They have a chapter here-- then found out it costs a LOT of money-- high monthly dues, and added fees on top of that. You must buy your own uniform, pay for your own travel and hotel costs when attending competitions.

You might not have one in your area since it's more rural where you live.

Been great chatting with you and getting to know you better.

Much Love,
Happy New Year 2022!!

posted January 01, 2022 01:29 AM            

this past year, transit chiron has been up on my sun (exact again atm) and this time period has definitely offered much awareness for the rhyme and reason with chiron wounds. had a life changing revelation last night with my dad. while in the middle of an argument, we discovered that my usage of my mother tongue has been incorrect for over 40 years! (apparently i have also not been fully aware of my propensity and urge to "butcher" language in general. then add that to [mis]communication with oblivious, offended immigrant parents who punished me and told me to not speak, instead of connecting the dots). obviously this had great bearing on the extreme alienation, anger/violence and misunderstandings between us. for the first time, our eyes connected in complete mutual understanding and forgiveness. both our minds were blown. never thought we would ever connect on a genuine human level. still digesting it really.

posted January 01, 2022 05:53 AM            

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Apparently even to this day, when Eddie Vedder (a Cap Sun with fairly strong Virgo with Moon and Mars in same) does a live event, he experiences a fair amount of nervousness, discomfort, and has been known to drink a fair amount before shows to loosen up. I saw Pearl Jam live once some years back and he definitely was drinking something.

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seems to be quite common among performers to be under the influence, especially in that scene. some of the best music/artistry have been created from really f*cked up states of mind. achieving a state of no fear and pure rawness while sober would be a feat.

creative expression and play flowed pretty well when i was an addict for sure. chiron was pleased. other things, not so much. still could not sing in front of people though.

posted January 01, 2022 07:40 AM            

https://www.iheart.com/content/2019-06-14-eddie-vedder-reunites-with-dutc h-woman-he-met-27-years-ago/

posted January 01, 2022 09:14 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
I was searching for Eddie Vedder and his music on the web and I stumbled across a lovely article about him and a Dutch woman he met 27 years ago. She remembers it as a soulmate experience.

https://www.iheart.com/content/2019-06-14-eddie-vedder-reunites-with-dutc h-woman-he-met-27-years-ago/

It made me smile and makes me feel hopeful for a humanity where random acts of kindness are the norm and not the exception. A good way to start the new year.

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posted January 01, 2022 10:16 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Galactic..
Thanks so much for your comment, and for opening this topic. This subject has been as important to me, as Breath...

...Be Blessed

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Hi Mirage,

That is very cool, and yes, a combo of music and sound in general has been fairly important to my path as well. Especially so via The Monroe Institute's binaural beat audio called "Hemi-Sync" and chanting/toning (Ah Omm type stuff). Speaking of the latter, have you done any work with chanting/toning?

It is quite powerful stuff. I initially thought it was a bit silly and pointless, until I had some interesting experiences while attending a program at The Monroe Institute. Long account shorter, I gave it a try despite my initial skepticism and experienced some definite effects.

You as well.

posted January 01, 2022 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Sauerkraut:
seems to be quite common among performers to be under the influence, especially in that scene. some of the best music/artistry have been created from really f*cked up states of mind. achieving a state of no fear and pure rawness while sober would be a feat...

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Yep, and especially it seems for introverts, for the very reason it tends to become easier (especially being in front of others, crowds, or the like). But there are plenty of great musicians/performers that are completely to mostly sober, so it can be done for sure. Maybe just a bit easier on average for extroverts since they in a sense, feed off others energies.

My partner is slightly tipped to the extrovert side of the spectrum while I'm slightly tipped to the introvert. It's funny but we literally cannot understand each other in that sense. She can't understand how and why I tend to feel drained around others after awhile, while I cannot understand how she tends to feel energized (unless the people are negative, slow vibratory, etc).

But I also use conscious shielding techniques at times, which helps. I sometimes practice a technique that The Monroe Institute calls a REBAL, which is a sort of acronym for "resonant energy balloon". Just Bob Monroe's convoluted and unique way of saying "psychic/energetic shielding". (Bob LOVED acronyms). In my experience, it works. Particularly helpful for people with predominant to powerful Neptunes, Pisces, and to a slightly lesser extent Jupiter, and/or Uranus.

posted January 01, 2022 11:17 AM            

VERY Profound testimony ...
left me in tears.

We can daily feel like we need to 'tolerate' and merely 'accept' what's going on in our relationships, and all the while having that tension present there to the point of even much suffering from within.

The Remedy came Beautifully for you both.
You BOTH worked at it.... together.

The "Understanding" was opened between the two of you, which released the pressure and resolved tensions.

The 'opening' of The Understanding places everything else in right-context. What is left is to fulfill what you know needs to happen. And for that glorious Grace to remain like a healing balm, upon you and your Dad.

You and I have Sun sextile Sun.
(I'm still crying at your beautiful story! Good tears.)

Words, are all we have...
The lyrics to this song seem to 'fit' the chironic healing event.
How Glorious!!

(music) Overjoyed
(Bastille, 2012 acapella)
[3:12] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZKu_q3qFPk

(And thank you for letting me know that what I said was able to Make A Difference.... {just really-Wow!} helps the realization that there is a 'meaning' to my Life.)

LYRICS
Oh I feel overjoyed
When you listen to my words --
I see them sinking in
Oh I see them crawling underneath your skin

Words are all we have
We'll be talking
We'll be talking
These words are all we have
We'll be talking