posted January 01, 2022 12:25 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
I was searching for Eddie Vedder and his music on the web and I stumbled across a lovely article about him and a Dutch woman he met 27 years ago. She remembers it as a soulmate experience...

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That was indeed a nice and heart warming account P.W.H. Vedder has always struck me as being one of the more positive and older soul types in that crowd. Not that I put him on any kind of pedestal. I only know of one human that truly/fully deserves to be put on a pedestal, and since he doesn't want or like that, I try not to do that with him too much either (talking about the spiritual Teacher of teachers, Yeshua).

posted January 01, 2022 07:02 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
"perfect instrument -- the Human Body"
yes yes yes .... so unique ....
and you can take it with you,
anywhere your feet take you. *Heart*

Nadja! How nice that your govt sponsors community Values: The Arts, and Adult Education!! *bounce* that's fantastic.

Here in the US regarding funds for The Arts, there had been a negative shifting away. Politicians came in who veered money away from it. They have a poverty level austere mindset when it comes to needs of the Human. Schools are barely-funded, and music/arts were stripped from programs.

Story about your brother sounds amazing!! And talent DOES run in family genes, DNA.

Barber shop quartet?

Ever hear of the women's singing group called "Sweet Adeline's"?

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Happy New Year!!

The Finnish governement is generally pretty good at supporting culture, and us Finnish Swedes in particular have a reputation for upholding our culture and community spirit. According to some international study Finnish people are the happiest in the world, and according to a national study Finnish Swedes are generally more satisfied with life than our Finnish-speaking brethren. The study also concluded that said satisfaction is due mainly to the strong sense of community, and dedicated involvement in both recreational and socially useful associations, clubs etc.. Choir singing especially is a very Finland-Swedish thing. During the pandemic when choirs haven't been able to practice there was a virtual choir project where people recorded their parts at home and and all the individual recordings were then digitally compiled. I didn't have sophisticated enough recording equipment to take part, but here is one song they put together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSNO-tqL9tA&t=78s

I did some googling and there is apparently a Finnish barbershop association, but unfortuntely there are no groups active in Swedish or in my part of the country.

posted January 04, 2022 05:38 PM            

Its the same with the differences between having a taurus ascendant or venus conjunct ascendant. The venus conjunct ascendant is a lot more pleasant than the taurus ascendant. And in the first case, you wouldnt see a person having a darker skin like it is the case with taurus sign on ascendant. My sister has this sign on the ascendant and even if we all have a lighter skin tone, she was born with a darker tone. Usually, with planets, its about the energy, and signs give more traits than just energy.

What kind of physical aspect you would give to neptune conjunct ascendant? Its about the energy, not the physical aspect. The person might seem ethernal, fuzzy, cloudy, but you wouldnt say that the person has a cloud around their head just because it aspects the ascendant and thats the physical body. They might be absorbing a lot of energy from the environment and the energy they receive from outside could be good or bad for them. Needing a lot of isolation because of this. But its not like they will look like a pisces ascendant. They will look like the sign of the ascendant and having the energy of the planet being conjunct.

A friend of mine is over 1.80 and he is not a sagittarius ASC or has Jupiter conjunct ASC. Just like having a big hair doesnt mean the ASC is in Leo.

Ive seen a more definitive relation between the ascendant sign and the sign of its ruler, than with the planets energy.
Like I have small feet because the ruler is in Pisces and having small hips too because of Leo ASC.

Anyway, maybe sometime I will list the reasons why I think my time of birth is right, and this conjunction was not one that I "tried" to have it, but because other things change too much for my time of birth to be so wrong (like having Venus conjunct MC instead of Mercury conjunct MC like it is now, or having IC in scorpio instead of Libra) and we will talk more about this 😁, since this thread is not about jupiter conjunct ASC.

posted January 04, 2022 08:38 PM            

So your examples don't really mean anything until they are rectified and made sure to be fully/completely accurate. Celebrity charts in general, even just with the physical time aspect of things, tend to be pretty sketchy at best anyways. Not even factoring in potential difference in time between physical and spiritual/energetic birth times.

Neither Neptune nor Pluto are known to show an altering of the physical archetype of the Rising Sign looks/physical characteristics much, if at all. They are far more vibe oriented. But Sun to Uranus--big time altering of the former.

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The thing is Chryssa is that we are dealing with a kind of Law here. The Ascendant literally and directly represents the physical body--that is its meaning and archetype. How and why does it so often work in many cases but not in others? That is breaking the Law of cause/effect that underlines this reality. Jupiter literally and directly represents the principle, pattern, and effect of expansion the most of any symbol. If it is powerfully connected to the Asc, some kind of expansion has to happen--it is natural Law.

And yet, it only seems to work "sometimes", even if the slight majority of time. Doesn't that strike you as kind of odd and out of place? Why would it show up sometimes, but not always? The real reason is because of inaccuracy of charts i.e. Jupiter is not actually closely conjunct that person's Ascendant. I've seen plenty of people just on this forum alone reference to people with Jupiter conjunct the Asc who were moderately to well above average height, or who had broad, strong bodies (like some Polynesian groups tend to have).

posted January 04, 2022 11:36 PM            

Sign wise, the tallest to least tall Signs (in an archetypal sense) goes, Sagittarius, Gemini, Leo, Aquarius, Aries, Libra, Virgo, Pisces, Scorpio, Taurus, Capricorn, and Cancer. Planetary (or other) symbols besides Jupiter that are known to indicate increased height: Sun, Uranus, North Node, and Mercury to a lesser extent. So someone with say Gemini Rising with Sun or Uranus conjunct their Asc, can be VERY tall.

Uranus though, correlating to the extremes and unusual, CAN swing into the opposite direction and correlate to extreme/unusual shortness as well (or weird things going on with the body part(s) that the Asc sign rules). But most often, I observe it as a height increasing correlation.

I actually have a female acquaintance with Sag Rising, between Sag Uranus and Saturn, but closer to Uranus, and she is on the shortest side of average to slightly below. Since she is rather fair complected, seems to relate to Uranus more than Saturn, as Saturn predominating is known to indicate increased melanation over the Rising archetype.

posted January 05, 2022 12:01 PM            

I have my chart as an example and it's not so far off so that conjunction wouldn't be there.

posted January 05, 2022 04:34 PM            

I was a singer. I was a soloist in high school at my own initiative. Then I got a scholarship to college for voice. I didn't get to use it or and my life took a turn. It was complicated and I didn't know how to deal with it, but it wasn't a wrong turn so much as I just failed to keep music close and slid into depression.

Lately, when my energy is strong and my mood positive, I can feel my voice coming back with power. I sing to my dog and around my wife. But it's hard to think of myself as a singer. But overall, I'm an introvert. So it's like I don't have a push to perform anymore as much as I just want to let my voice loose again.

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posted January 05, 2022 06:26 PM            

Sometimes I feel like there is an internal battle within me between the very strong Capricorn, strong Virgo, Angular Pisces SN, Sun Pluto square, etc vs the Leo Rising, Libra Moon, and 7th House Aqua Venus that rules Moon, MC, 3rd, and Pluto.

The former is QUITE introverted, and the latter is definitely more expressive. I've had guidance messages unexpectedly tell me I should put myself/energies out there more. For an example, I used to work at a school, and one of the parents whose children went to that school is a long time professional medium/intuitive (with some connection to the A.R.E.), and to give back, she decided to give a group of our staff free readings one time.

One of our relatives came through, and one of the messages given was basically to share my father's song, Dr. Everywhere, with others. It felt like a definite nudge. Not long after that, I went to the A.R.E.'s annual members congress for the first time, and sang it at their talent show--nervous AF. Then not long after that, my spouse was in grad school and for her art and technology class, she had to make a video of some kind related to art and/or performance, and she requested that a mutual friend and I record that song while she filmed/edited etc. If she hadn't made that specific request, doubt I would have ever recorded it--definitely not video wise.

posted January 05, 2022 06:36 PM            

Like in my partner's case, her chart ruler Saturn is conjunct Jupiter with less than a degree of separation (i.e. quite close). She has the average to short, and usually skinny and slight Sign of Capricorn Rising, and yet, if her spine had developed optimally, she would have been almost 6 foot/about 1.83 meters tall, which is fairly tall for a woman. And she is above average strong and vital for a woman, with a somewhat larger bone structure than average, where Capricorn Asc for women, in an archetypal sense, is more petite and diminutive physically.

And that's with the more indirect connection to her Asc than having Jupiter directly closely conjunct same.

posted January 08, 2022 04:28 AM            

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But I also use conscious shielding techniques at times, which helps. I sometimes practice a technique that The Monroe Institute calls a REBAL, which is a sort of acronym for "resonant energy balloon". Just Bob Monroe's convoluted and unique way of saying "psychic/energetic shielding". (Bob LOVED acronyms). In my experience, it works. Particularly helpful for people with predominant to powerful Neptunes, Pisces, and to a slightly lesser extent Jupiter, and/or Uranus.

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thank you for this. fun fact: did some hemi-sync about 2 decades ago for a month or so (casually) and never came across anyone who knew what it was and had forgotten all about it until i stumbled upon your posts here.

posted January 08, 2022 04:37 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:

You and I have Sun sextile Sun.

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posted January 09, 2022 02:23 PM            

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thank you for this. fun fact: did some hemi-sync about 2 decades ago for a month or so (casually)...

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That's funny. How did you like it?

Yeah, for awhile, I was pretty into that whole scene and culture. I started using Hemi-Sync when I was 16, read all of Monroes' books (and also the two biographies about him), then read Rosalind McKnights' books (she was one of his volunteer "Explorers"), Bruce Moens' books, and Tom Campbell's book (he was another of one of Monroe's volunteer Explorers).

My partner and I ended up going to The Monroe Institute to take the Gateway Voyage program for one of our honeymoons (we had two marriage ceremonies and two honeymoons) back in 2007. Awhile before we went, I had a dream that my partner and I (in other lives/selves) had helped Monroe and family* somehow. Shortly after, I got in touch with Rosalind McKnight and became friends with her (and found out that not only did we share the same b-day, but also Moon Sign, our Mercury's were at the same degree in Cap, and our Aqua Venus's were respectively 21 vs 22*!). Then around that time, I took Bruce Moen's "Afterlife Knowledge" training down at his home in FL, and ended up sort of becoming friends with him as well (we ended up hanging out a couple times after the training as well as occasional emails, but we had a sort of falling out based on major difference of perception on ET's). But, it all feels like a lifetime ago at this point.

*Eventually, I found out exactly what that dream meant, and it was no accident that we developed somewhat more personal connections to people that were close to Monroe. (Bruce Moen and Bob Monroe were part of the same Higher/Expanded self and had been friends).

posted January 09, 2022 02:28 PM            

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I've grown up singing in choirs and was in glee club...

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Nice Gracha, thank you for sharing. Clearly both Venus and Taurus are pretty highlighted in your chart with that combo. Btw, do you have Leo Rising, or Cancer or Virgo?

I think my Higher/Expanded self has another Soul in it that became a singer in his life, but I'm not sure--never dug too much into it. But when my brother was getting really into guitar years ago and told me I should get more into music, I told him that something similar--that I felt I have already been there, done that. But there is part of me that would love to sing and perhaps play/write music for a career.

posted January 09, 2022 03:47 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:
Nice Gracha, thank you for sharing. Clearly both Venus and Taurus are pretty highlighted in your chart with that combo. Btw, do you have Leo Rising, or Cancer or Virgo?

I think my Higher/Expanded self has another Soul in it that became a singer in his life, but I'm not sure--never dug too much into it. But when my brother was getting really into guitar years ago and told me I should get more into music, I told him that something similar--that I felt I have already been there, done that. But there is part of me that would love to sing and perhaps play/write music for a career.

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posted January 14, 2022 10:10 AM            

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To Gracha: Who knows, T. Uranus is currently in Taurus and closely conjunct my MC and closely trining my Jupiter in 1st and ruler of 5th and co ruler of 8th, so anything could happen...

And thank you for the answer to the question. I would imagine that Cancer Rising tends to have a bit harder time performing, or rather being as comfortable, as compared to say Leo Rising.

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posted January 23, 2022 11:14 AM            

As for self, I actually don't have Taurus that highlighted, though it is the sign on my MC (with Taurus Chiron closely conjuncting), so maybe it is more highlighted than I tend to think. But MC is more specific to career and how you serve the larger society around you. Venus is pretty strong in my chart since it is in the 7th and in a wide opposition to my Asc. Besides the Taurus MC, I also have Moon in Libra. And Venus is my only planet above the horizon (and closest to MC). Venus is not my strongest Planet by any means, but she's definitely fairly highlighted.

Do you love to sing? Do you have a talent and/or skill for it? Astrologically, do you see any other factors that relate to it beside Taurus and Venus? Who are some of your favorite vocalists?

I LOVE, Love to sing and write poems/songs, I make up songs to sing for my kids too. However, I dance better than sing and dancing is where I shine the most...

Chart Ruler is Venus (Taurus) and my Venus is exalted in Pisces. My sun/moon midpoint is conjunct my Venus and my south node loosely conjuncts her as well. I am a 1st deg Aqua sun 9th/10th house conjunct MC (29 Cap)
Mars conjuncts Jupiter, part of a 5th house stellium (with NN) too if that comes into play at all ...

posted January 23, 2022 11:37 AM            

"Neither Neptune nor Pluto are known to show an altering of the physical archetype of the Rising Sign looks/physical characteristics much, if at all. They are far more vibe oriented. But Sun to Uranus--big time altering of the former."

Interesting, astromatrix does interprets for Draco to Natal aspects.
My Draco Pluto conjuncts my natal ASC in Taurus, and they gave a big description about Pluto here will add Plutonian/Scorpio ASC phenotype (hook nose, dark penetrative eyes, ect) which I have both, and the high intuitive nature.
I've got a Witchy Scorpio woman face, but definitely a taurus figure, petite, curvy, but athletic and very strong for my size. No one ever knows I am an Aqua Sun until I talk lol.

Just mentioning this because I was surprised to read that about a draco to natal contact, but in my case it definitely applies to my looks.

posted January 24, 2022 08:59 PM            

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I LOVE, Love to sing and write poems/songs, I make up songs to sing for my kids too. However, I dance better than sing and dancing is where I shine the most...

Chart Ruler is Venus (Taurus) and my Venus is exalted in Pisces. My sun/moon midpoint is conjunct my Venus and my south node loosely conjuncts her as well. I am a 1st deg Aqua sun 9th/10th house conjunct MC (29 Cap)
Mars conjuncts Jupiter, part of a 5th house stellium (with NN) too if that comes into play at all ...

My music taste is pretty eclectic, I like singers from Billie Eilish to Van Morrison, Depeche mode to Kid Cudi. Lady Gaga has a super strong voice and range, I think I will take a peek at her chart actually lol.

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Hi there Stargirl2122,

Thank you for sharing. Interesting about the preferring dancing to singing, though also loving the latter. Wonder if that relates to your Pisces Venus as chart ruler placement? I've noticed that Pisces and/or sometimes Neptune tends to be highlighted in charts of people that really like to dance.

Though I'm a guy, I actually do like to dance a fair amount, and I have angular Pisces SN and a highlighted Neptune (with Jupiter as my 1st or 2nd strongest Planet). But I'm the reverse of you, singing edges out dancing some for me. I used to write poetry, but my heart has been closed down some and I haven't wrote any for awhile.

Btw, I also have Mars conjunct Jupiter and connected to my 5th, since Jupiter rules my 5th (and co-rules my 8th).

Yep, nice eclectic mix there. I've looked up Gaga's chart before, but don't remember it too well. Remember a mix of Aries and Pisces, but that's about it. Years ago I had a dream where she and I met, and she wanted to have sex with me, but I sensed it was partly out of a sense of insecurity and feeling down about something (like she was kind of using me as a distraction from that), and so I gently rebuffed her though I was attracted to her.

I didn't know it at the time of the dream, but her 3rd album had recently come out and wasn't doing as well as the first two had. Don't know if its related to the dream or not.

posted January 24, 2022 09:05 PM            

Pisces is the most intuitive-psychic sign of them all, followed by Aquarius to a slightly lesser degree. Two rather highlighted Signs in your chart, and you're connected to a female body which tends to be more intuitive than male bodies on average.