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Topic: Which one is THE most aggressive & violent: Aries Moon, Aries Venus, or Aries Mars?
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LovelyAries86
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posted March 17, 2022 01:03 AM
  
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Aries Venus in women are more assertive and go getting than Aries Venus in a male, who does not pursue well. If he seems to, he will not retain it once he gets you.
Hi Ami. So why do you feel there's a difference specifically when men have Aries Venus? Why do they struggle to pursue? You may be right about that part. But I do not feel that Aries Sun, Moon or Mars people are inherently violent like some are suggesting. Passionate?? Yes, definitely. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted March 17, 2022 09:14 AM
To look for violence, you need more than a sign. You need things like Mars conjunct Pluto, Mars square Pluto or Mars oppose Pluto. Then, you can add asteroids such as Nessus, which is abuse. I hate to say the old adage that you need to look at the whole chart, but you do. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted March 17, 2022 09:17 AM
Just another note. I have been noticing how guys who have achieved a lot in life often have Mars conj Pluto. I think Steven Tyler has its, as well as Kobe Bryant. I did an article on a prominent lawyer who was a true golden boy who had it. He murdered his girlfriend. So, I was intrigued to see how the man who had it all ended up in this position. He had the aspect for temper and violence.------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted March 17, 2022 09:37 AM
Hi LA  It is a weird oddity that women with Venus in Aries are assertive/aggressive while men are passive. The men may appear assertive at first but it is not really how they are. When you get with them, they will become passive. It is an outer show. ------------------
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Gracha
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posted March 17, 2022 11:44 AM
Aries mars and moon. As an Aries woman with Mars in Aries, I can controll my emotions but will verbally annihilate someone if pushed further enough, I don't have a history of physically fighting past the age of 12 (friends and I was in a fight club with some where we'd meet on some evenings and fight but afterwards talk as if nothing happened). I dated two Aries guys and they both had a history of verbal and physical aggression. I find the men to be very aggressive though. Also, I have several Aries women friends and they are some of the most peaceful people I know. No history of physical aggression. IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted March 17, 2022 05:14 PM
Russel Brand has a Mars/Moon conjunction in Aries opposite Pluto. I can’t really fathom him being violent or aggressive. To be fair it’s all connected to a lovely Mystic Rectangle, and of course he’s a completely different person now than he used to be.IP: Logged |
Librapurr
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posted March 17, 2022 05:24 PM
They’re not like aggressive all the time. They also could be nice and peaceful. It’s a topic about aggression.
Also, we have usually enough Pluto and Mars in charts so we probably wouldn’t last that long if they were really violent.
I’d say I get from my Aries moon friend bimonthly supplies of platonic passion and drama. Sometimes, it’s too much and aggressive. I often need a break. IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98
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posted March 17, 2022 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by Gracha:
Aries mars and moon. As an Aries woman with Mars in Aries, I can controll my emotions but will verbally annihilate someone if pushed further enough, I don't have a history of physically fighting past the age of 12 (friends and I was in a fight club with some where we'd meet on some evenings and fight but afterwards talk as if nothing happened). I dated two Aries guys and they both had a history of verbal and physical aggression. I find the men to be very aggressive though. Also, I have several Aries women friends and they are some of the most peaceful people I know. No history of physical aggression.
Out of curiosity, what’s your Mercury Sign, House Placement & Aspect(s)? Do you have any planet(s) in The 3rd House? IP: Logged |
sashavittoria
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posted March 17, 2022 11:36 PM
10th house Aries moon (my chart ruler) and Mercury "female" here, with the moon in an out-of-sign conjunction with my Taurus Venus and Mercury square Uranus. Moon is at the apex of a T-square, squaring Chiron opp Lilith. I was violent when I was younger, but almost entirely in defense of myself or others (against injustice), and it was a product of living in a violent household in which such behavior was modeled and provoked the necessary defense. I have not been violent since I was a teenager, and now get called "aggressive" only in the most sexist ways.  People are usually deceived by my sweet Cancer ascendant, only to be surprised by the strength and force of the Aries placements. I have Mars in Pisces, which is more my natural M.O. - rather passive aggressive in action, while the Aries Mercury is verbally direct. I have not been "aggressive" since I was an angry, abused teenager. I now find anger generally frustrating and useless, and just try to get at whatever is lurking beneath it.My ex has Mars in Aries conjunct Chiron in his 4th, opposite Uranus and more widely, Pluto. He was violent, but never towards another person or living being. He had a temper and would break things, especially items of great personal significance, but only his own property, never others'. He had extremely violent thoughts. But he also grew up in a civil war with a violent father and was abused, etc. My belief is that such placements may give the POTENTIAL for violent or aggressive behavior, but if the environment or trauma triggers don't draw it out in some way then it doesn't occur. My double Pisces mother, on the other hand, had nothing in Aries but her north node (conjunct my moon/Venus), and she was extremely violent and temperamental. Like MoonMystic, teasel, Ami Anne, and others have pointed out, it's not so cut and dry. IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98
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From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada
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posted March 18, 2022 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by sashavittoria:
10th house Aries moon (my chart ruler) and Mercury "female" here, with the moon in an out-of-sign conjunction with my Taurus Venus and Mercury square Uranus. Moon is at the apex of a T-square, squaring Chiron opp Lilith. I was violent when I was younger, but almost entirely in defense of myself or others (against injustice), and it was a product of living in a violent household in which such behavior was modeled and provoked the necessary defense. I have not been violent since I was a teenager, and now get called "aggressive" only in the most sexist ways. People are usually deceived by my sweet Cancer ascendant, only to be surprised by the strength and force of the Aries placements. I have Mars in Pisces, which is more my natural M.O. - rather passive aggressive in action, while the Aries Mercury is verbally direct. I have not been "aggressive" since I was an angry, abused teenager. I now find anger generally frustrating and useless, and just try to get at whatever is lurking beneath it.My ex has Mars in Aries conjunct Chiron in his 4th, opposite Uranus and more widely, Pluto. He was violent, but never towards another person or living being. He had a temper and would break things, especially items of great personal significance, but only his own property, never others'. He had extremely violent thoughts. But he also grew up in a civil war with a violent father and was abused, etc. My belief is that such placements may give the POTENTIAL for violent or aggressive behavior, but if the environment or trauma triggers don't draw it out in some way then it doesn't occur. My double Pisces mother, on the other hand, had nothing in Aries but her north node (conjunct my moon/Venus), and she was extremely violent and temperamental. Like MoonMystic, teasel, Ami Anne, and others have pointed out, it's not so cut and dry.
What was your Double-Pisces mother’s Mercury, Venus & Mars? How were they aspected?! IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted March 18, 2022 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Hi LA It is a weird oddity that women with Venus in Aries are assertive/aggressive while men are passive. The men may appear assertive at first but it is not really how they are. When you get with them, they will become passive. It is an outer show.
Interesting viewpoint, Ami. I had not thought about that, but it would make sense if I look at this way: Could it be that men with Venus in Aries naturally love aggressive/assertive women, which mean that these men will naturally switch to being passive to allow the aggressivity/assertiveness in a woman to come out? In a relationship, two people cannot be aggressive or on top at the same time, there is a need for polarity... I wonder if the same would hold out for men with Venus in Scorpio, since it is ruled by Mars and Pluto... IP: Logged |
DeepBlue
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posted March 18, 2022 02:46 PM
Yes I agree belage. Because in men venus shows the tipe of women they like and mars would be their way of going after things and how they persue.
And in the case of a woman the opposite would be true.IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted March 18, 2022 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by DeepBlue:
Yes I agree belaug. Because in men venus shows the tipe of women they like and mars would be their way of going after things and how they persue.
And in the case of a woman the opposite would be true.
BINGO! Now, would that only apply to heterosexual relationships? I wonder if this would be different for men with Aries Venus in gay relationships... IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted March 18, 2022 03:03 PM
... Continuing on my previous thoughts.I think there is a need to explore, examine and understand what Venus means in the chart of Gay men. IP: Logged |
DeepBlue
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posted March 18, 2022 03:16 PM
Hmm I wouldn't know. But maybe in a gay man chart venus would still show the quality he seeks in a partner and mars would still show his action dinamics. But maybe in a chart of a gay the mars would add to what kind of partner is he attracted to? I don't really know that's just what came to my mind...
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PlutoWasHere
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posted March 18, 2022 06:02 PM
My ex has his Venus in Aries and I don’t consider him to be aggressive at all. His behavior when angry is closer to the nature of his Cancer Moon and Taurus Mars conjunct Saturn. I don’t consider myself to be aggressive or dominant either but besides Aries Venus he also has his 7th house ruler Saturn conjunct Mars. So maybe I need to reconsider…My father had an Aries Moon and Mars square Pluto, he definitely had a temper. My mother has an Aries Venus and she is feisty, she also has her Mars sextile Pluto. My parents had a lot of confrontations and my father was without doubt the most aggressive one. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted March 18, 2022 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by DeepBlue:
Hmm I wouldn't know. But maybe in a gay man chart venus would still show the quality he seeks in a partner and mars would still show his action dinamics. But maybe in a chart of a gay the mars would add to what kind of partner is he attracted to? I don't really know that's just what came to my mind...
You made me think... Maybe our Venus indicates HOW we like to be loved, the qualities that attract us in a partner, regardless of our gender and sexual orientation... IP: Logged |
Sauerkraut
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posted March 19, 2022 04:29 AM
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Originally posted by Belage:
Could it be that men with Venus in Aries naturally love aggressive/assertive women, which mean that these men will naturally switch to being passive to allow the aggressivity/assertiveness in a woman to come out? In a relationship, two people cannot be aggressive or on top at the same time, there is a need for polarity...I wonder if the same would hold out for men with Venus in Scorpio, since it is ruled by Mars and Pluto...
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Originally posted by DeepBlue:
Yes I agree belage. Because in men venus shows the tipe of women they like and mars would be their way of going after things and how they persue.
And in the case of a woman the opposite would be true.
interesting thoughts.. with a recent resurface of my natal aries venus square cancer mars (NN ruler square SN ruler) issues, this is making some pieces click into place for me. aries dudes have been way too aggressive for my tastes. have generally preferred the round-about ways of cancer energy, alpha/cardinal but not in my face. aries venus still wants to make the first move. however my preferred style of pursuit was(is?) “setting a trap” for them to make a move, where i can still be an initiator but not be outright aggressive. the times i have been too direct or aggressive to get what i want were not satisfying - too much “alpha-ing” threw me off balance. original post:
am pretty chill until i get nagged, bullied or see someone else get bullied. then i will get aggressive and perhaps be on the verge of violence. prefer to kill someone with words over actual physical violence though (aries mercury), but i would rather not go there anymore. conflict is draining at this age. there were times when i was younger/less healed where i was energized by anger. am more discerning of battles these days and my aggression definitely has toned down over the years. have gotten better at weighing the pros and cons, instead of reacting. current experiment/goal is practicing to speak with a softer voice when angered and in general. IP: Logged |
Sauerkraut
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posted March 19, 2022 05:02 AM
a girl i used to work with, has an aries stellium with sun, venus, mars and mercury. 1st house pluto is in opposition to sun, venus and mars. leo moon. she is direct, straightforward and can be bossy/vocal when something is not fair. the TOB she gave me shows a 29* virgo asc and 29* gemini mc. she seems to be more libra asc and cancer mc? very serene pretty face, sassy mouth but not vulgar.. no violent energy at all. i was pretty good friends with her ex and he told me they never really fought either. IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86
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posted March 19, 2022 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Hi LA It is a weird oddity that women with Venus in Aries are assertive/aggressive while men are passive. The men may appear assertive at first but it is not really how they are. When you get with them, they will become passive. It is an outer show.
In my experience, this is indeed true about Aries Venus Men. They want to be pursued! It's perplexing AF and unattractive. Taurus Sun males w/ Aries Venus are especially obsessed with me and I'm like ugh... go away! 😂 Too passive. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted March 19, 2022 08:13 AM
Hi Belage Some astrological things one finds by doing charts. Someone told me about this and I have observed it in men with this aspect ( and women,too) ------------------
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LovelyAries86
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posted March 19, 2022 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by Belage:
Could it be that men with Venus in Aries naturally love aggressive/assertive women, which mean that these men will naturally switch to being passive to allow the aggressivity/assertiveness in a woman to come out? In a relationship, two people cannot be aggressive or on top at the same time, there is a need for polarity...I wonder if the same would hold out for men with Venus in Scorpio, since it is ruled by Mars and Pluto...
Thanks for bringing this up! 👍🏾 Polarity (yin/yang) is absolutely essential for maintaining real lasting chemistry & attraction in a relationship - a fact that is lost on many people today, unfortunately. In my experience, Scorpio Venus Men are not passive. They will definitely *observe* you & your energy before making a move though. 💯 But once they know what they want - they will hunt you down like the primal beasts that they are! 😂😂 My 8H Venus adores ittt. BOTH Scorpio & Aries Venus males love confident, sexy, exciting women. 🔥 But Scorpio still likes to show their strength & power while gifting you glimpses of their vulnerability. While Aries just becomes lazy & boring... which is so freaking strange & unlike what Aries energy is usually known for. IP: Logged |
sashavittoria
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posted March 19, 2022 06:27 PM
Leo-Cancer, her Mars was in Pisces and Mercury and Venus in Aqua. Her chart is here http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/011620.html she passed away recently and I’ve been having a hard time processing it all.IP: Logged |
Gracha
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posted March 20, 2022 03:51 AM
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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
Out of curiosity, what’s your Mercury Sign, House Placement & Aspect(s)? Do you have any planet(s) in The 3rd House?
9th house Pisces Mercury square Gemini moon, opposite Neptune. No planets in 3rd house. Also, mercury is 3 degrees from my Aries sun. What are you picking up on? IP: Logged |
DualGemV2
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posted March 21, 2022 02:35 PM
I don't think Aries mooners are aggresive per say just a bit impatient and quick to becoming iritable if things aren't moving.I wasn't going to say anything but...my situation today might be a prime example. I'm now working with another dev team so they sent me a new laptop to work remotely...I realized the laptop they sent me has been bricked because I don't have admin rights. If it wasn't an office laptop and say a personal laptop I could just jailbreak it myself...but no..I have to go through the process. I have to call the service desk, waste an hour having them to try to diagnose the problem... ...A problem I already diagnosed and know...then waste my day for them to put a service ticket in and wait for someone to respond. After wasting half my day I receive a call and the person who responded to my ticket and partical fixes my problem says..I'm suprised they didn't do that. I'm thinking the exact same...waste half my day over nothing. What I describe is what whould tick off an Aries mooner and make them aggressive. I'm sure many Aries mooners have also at least encountered waiting an hour for a buss .. ..then decide I could just walk to my destination in under an hour, rather then wait an hour for the buss.
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